Thread 105741813 - /g/ [Archived: 822 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:48:31 AM No.105741813
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>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT, MY HECKIN' PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE WOULD BREAK
what's the point of linux when you're a proprietarycuck anyway?
>oh, sorry, guys, i guess we need to stick to that ancient 10 years old glibc version because microsoft edge refuses to work with the newer versions, sorry!
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:50:14 AM No.105741821
>>105741813 (OP)
Nothing important is done on Fedora, anyhoo. They are just doing this to prepare the way in the future for more important distros to do it. This is to lessen the blowback when the change actually does affect others.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:51:57 AM No.105741835
trixie in the next month
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:52:14 AM No.105741838
backwards compatibility is sacrosanct. if maintaining it takes too much effort, it's a sign that you've fucked up somewhere in the fundamentals of your system design.
if edge has dependencies that are out of date, just keep them in the edge folder and have it use the outdated version instead of the system-wide version. edge doesn't interact much with other application software, so it *is* just installed as a big stack in one folder, right? you wouldn't do something stupid like vomit it all over the file system to save a few kilobytes, would you?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:53:00 AM No.105741842
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Does this mean I wouldn't be able to play my 32bit vidyo games? On wine that is.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:21:49 PM No.105742674
>>105741842
Linux gamers on suicide watch
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:27:12 PM No.105742705
The only reason why Linux is now so relevant is thanks to Steam and Proton. Remove gamers from the ecuation and Linux will go back to pre Steam Deck numbers.
Now that M$ fucked up with W11, it's the best time to take advantage and bring in more people
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:32:17 PM No.105742737
>>105742705
>Remove gamers from the ecuation and Linux will go back to pre Steam Deck numbers.
yes please please please.
I can't fucking wait for microsoft to dunk on steamos so people stop using linux.
we didn't need them before steamos, we don't need them now.
we already had too many retards asking retarded questions about linux, they can't leave soon enough.
who gives a fucking about marketshare
>Now that M$ fucked up with W11, it's the best time to take advantage and bring in more people
won't happen, stay the fuck away from linux
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:37:45 PM No.105742762
>>105742737
Too late, my man. I won't discuss your gatekeeping mentality, as we all have those, but Linux as an alternative it's on.
If Fedora removes support for 32-bit applications, people will move to the next distro that does: Be it
Nobara (which is a proper distro, unlike Bezzite) or even Debian.
>I can't fucking wait for microsoft to dunk on steamos so people stop using linux.
Why would they do that?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:52:07 PM No.105742849
>>105742762
>but Linux as an alternative it's on.
not for long, ms is teasing their optimized windows version with custom UI for handheld and support for anticheats.
linux release cycle is pure retardation and will prevent anyone serious from doing any work to improve the situation, valve has to maintain their own kernel with a custom userspace, not many are willing to do that.
for windows handheld edition this won't be the case as microsoft will do the work.
I'm 100% certain it will cost less to just use windows when the trillion dollar company making it is willing to compromise so manufacturers don't have to hire retarded devs to maintain forks or to fight against upstream to get shit needed RIGHT NOW but merged and released somewhere within the next 6 to 12 months.
linux is fine for slow-paced environments taht never change, desktop is not such environment.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:25:29 PM No.105744370
>>105742762
>Nobara (which is a proper distro, unlike Bezzite)
meme distros nobody heard of

>even Debian.
unsuitable for desktop use
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:38:59 PM No.105744494
>>105741813 (OP)
>what's the point of linux when you're a proprietarycuck anyway?
Whats the point of linux if you can only use it to rice your desktop and jerk off all day?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:41:19 PM No.105744519
>>105742737
>Your average arch linux enjoyer
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:43:33 PM No.105744543
I dont see why Fedora users feel they have the right to complain. You absolute niggers, you chose to use the biggest shill distro out there.

You made your fucking bed.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:44:14 PM No.105744548
>>105742737
>yes please please please.
>we didn't need them before steamos, we don't need them now.
>we already had too many retards asking retarded questions about linux, they can't leave soon enough.
Least delusional freetroon.
>who gives a fucking about marketshare
>stay the fuck away from linux
Aaaand because of people like you, linux will never be usable on the desktop.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:49:26 PM No.105744599
>>105744494
ricing your desktop and jerk off all day
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:07:13 PM No.105745838
>>105744519
I use debian
>>105744548
>Least delusional freetroon.
troons are part ofthe issue of linux community
>Aaaand because of people like you, linux will never be usable on the desktop.
it's already more than good enough
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:09:55 PM No.105745873
>>105742737
using linux doesn't make you an interesting person
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:11:57 PM No.105745893
>>105741813 (OP)
>Drop 32 bit software
>Lose almost all software made before 2008
GOOD JOB RETARD
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:12:05 PM No.105745897
>>105742737
but unironically
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:13:03 PM No.105745908
>>105745873
exactly it's just a tool and it would be cool if entitled people were staying inside their golden-prison instead of demanding help for the most simple issue.
I've already stoped helping steamdeck users in real-life, so much waste of energy is spent helping them, microsoft can't release the handheld version soon enough
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:13:24 PM No.105745912
>>105741838
This.
The push for modernization by force recently is as bad, if not worse than Windows. Piss off too many legacy users and they'll just go back to using Windows XP and 7.

>>105741842
You may be able to get away with it in Bottles or Steam via flatpak. Those don't use system libraries.
Anything else though? Get fucked.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:14:34 PM No.105745926
>>105742705
Well the Wayland lovers/"Xorg is fascist" retards are already doing a great job of footgunning Linux for anything vaguely graphics-oriented, so deleting ia32 is just a second round in the same hole.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:15:39 PM No.105745941
>>105745912
How about you dual boot win 7 for your ancient x32 vidya instead, that way you won't stop the progress.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:17:38 PM No.105745971
>>105742849
>not for long, ms is teasing their optimized windows version with custom UI for handheld and support for anticheats.
I'll believe it when I see it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:17:43 PM No.105745972
lol freetards
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:19:04 PM No.105745985
>>105745912
it's pushed by the nsa in both cases

gotta updoot the latest backdoors
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:23:18 PM No.105746019
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>>105742762
Incorrect. Fedora and Red Hat are the ones actually leading the charge and calling the shots in Open source alongside canonical, who are just doing what Red Hat does just a few years later. Here's what is going to happen:

>RedHat removes 32 bit from Fedora
>W-WELL IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME / I'LL MOVE TO ANOTHER DISTRO
>They release a press statement saying anyone who misses 32 bit applications is a neo-nazi, and should be safely ignored as a fascist maggot

>W-WELL ACTUALLY I NEVER LIKED 32 BIT APPLICATIONS. WHO EVER NEEDED THOSE?

You will Bow. You will Cuck. You will do whatever it takes to stay on the good side of the corporations who are actually in charge of Linux. Compiling support for some lame cuck distro ain't gonna save you or Linux.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:49:24 PM No.105746284
>>105746019
Well, they had a lot of backlash because of this, so they're not going to change it any time soon.
Obviously, 32-bit libs are in life-support, knowing that 2038 is their true EOL.
What really bothers me is saying that they're planning to remove it because "it's a lot of work to maintain". Like, dude, backwards compatibility is Windows greatest asset (at least is supose to be)
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:52:27 PM No.105746317
>>105741813 (OP)
They will force the usage of containers which is good, that's the only sane way to keep backwards compatibility in unix systems.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:52:55 PM No.105746319
>>105746284
>Obviously, 32-bit libs are in life-support, knowing that 2038 is their true EOL.
There is absolutely nothing stopping a 32-bit application from working past 2038. It's just a date bug that you can fix in 32-bit just fine. Computers didn't stop working after y2K either, it just required some cleanup work on date and time codes.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:57:52 PM No.105746383
>>105746319
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying it.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:01:00 PM No.105746408
>>105746319
It would be the EOL not for the 32libs but for the outdated software they are trying to maintain, I don't think any company is going to compile its software against 32 bit arch past 2038 or is going to fix the bug for outdated software.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:08:35 PM No.105746497
>>105746408
We still get 32bit library updates even today because it's true, legacy code isn't going to suddenly get updated. That said, most of them also use these libraries for handling time and date functions, and for those it's as easy as

>signed int
>unsigned int
which many have already done.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:09:58 PM No.105746509
>>105741838
>system-wide version
this concept should not exist
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:12:22 PM No.105746531
>>105745893
>all software made before 2008
and nothing valuable was lost
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:18:17 PM No.105746580
>>105746509
>>105741838
Just FYI, GNU/Linux fundamentalists advocated for shared libraries specifically to thwart proprietary software.

Using packaged libs has been a concept for Mac and Windows for decades. The so called "rationale" for self imposed dependency hell on Linux (that being disk space) has always been weak and masks the true reason
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:27:40 PM No.105746661
>>105746580
who would listen to these luddites?
with that mentality the YOTLD will never come
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:29:31 PM No.105746681
>>105741813 (OP)
I have 32bit on windows and that's all that matters, hobbyist os is made for thinker only.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:32:15 PM No.105746704
>>105741813 (OP)
Just use proton.
>>105742737
>>105745926
Based retards.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:33:49 PM No.105746714
Wow64 wine emultor just werks nowadays too, you don't 32bit garbo.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:35:41 PM No.105746726
>>105741842
You can run games without 32bit libraries with WoW64.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:47:55 PM No.105746815
>>105746580
Crying about dynamic libraries is tiresome. The problem is trivial nowadays, commercial software vendors just don't care and insist on shipping their software the same way they've been shipping it since 2002. Microsoft can't even get people to use Windows' newer packaging formats, god help you if you think you can get them to care that Flatpak exists.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:02:21 PM No.105746928
>>105741813 (OP)
Thats what redhat faggots get for using a redhat distro.
Redhat literally trying to destroy init.d and X11.
Now they are going to take steam and your vidya games away from you too.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:12:47 PM No.105747550
>>105746580
>Just FYI, GNU/Linux fundamentalists advocated for shared libraries specifically to thwart proprietary software.

And it works great. To keep something up to date, just update the library.
That's why dropping 32 bit software isn't as catastrophic on Linux: The actual fixes that have to be done are in the libraries that are already open source
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:14:08 PM No.105747571
>>105745941
>you won't stop the progress.
You're not progressing toward anything other than killing the Linux Desktop. You're going to do that regardless if x86 is supported.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:15:19 PM No.105747586
>>105745941
>Just go back to windows!!
Oh don't worry, most people are already doing that.