What went wrong?

>>105747466 (OP)
nothing is practically the queen of linux distributions.

Contributors are dropping dead and nobody is replacing them because they are an insular clique, when a maintainer dies they just drop all their maintained packages from the distribution.

>>105747466 (OP)
Nothing, even more now that containers exists

>>105747466 (OP) It's Linux. That's what went wrong.
People should design something else at this point, because it doesn't seem that the Linux people want to fix their OS.

shitty demoralization jay thread

>>105747492
Vaxx ststus?

>>105747466 (OP)
nothing?

Trixie has been 80 bugs away from release for like a month now.

>>105747475
who's the king?
>>105747466 (OP)
systemd
devuan is better

>>105749808
>who's the king?
Slackware

>>105747466 (OP)
Ian Murdok "suicide"

>>105747466 (OP)
nothing, it's for servers that want stability, if you want to updoot use arch

>>105748387
Biggest flaw in Linux is having the gui API and server in userland, not kernel. Linux will never takeover desktop for normies because of this.

>>105747466 (OP)
Chronic lack of manpower. Lack of focus on basic desktop usability. Clunky installer (no, Calamares isn't the answer). Lack of security-patched rolling release for end users. Lack of quality of life features on the package manager (transactions, package verification, clean rollback, proper management of auto-installed packages). Lack of btrfs snapshots backed into the distro for the end user. Lack of atomic variant.

>>105747466 (OP)
>What went wrong?
DEI.

>>105751955
retard

>>105747466 (OP)
Nothing went wrong, it's fucking great

It just werks.
>>105751527
>it's for servers
It's a universal distribution, nothing about that implies its for servers only. The fact that tasks/tasksel exist absolutely debunks your retarded headcanon.

>>105748498
Turbo Boosted.

>>105747466 (OP)
They murdered Ian so they could should wayland/systemd down our throars.

>>105747466 (OP)
Nothing, I use some version of it (stable/testing) on every machine I own

>>105751622
>Chronic lack of manpower
Source? I'm actually interested if you have one
>Lack of focus on basic desktop usability
It's an all purpose distro that ships the default versions of like 5 mainstream distros in the installer, which you can choose from. What more do you want?
>Clunky installer (no, Calamares isn't the answer)
The only thing clunky in the installer is the partitioner, and I will give you that it's EXTREMELY clunky. However, you can get what you want if you know what you're doing.
>Lack of security-patched rolling release for end users
Again, legitimately interested if you have examples.
>Lack of quality of life features on the package manager ...
This is true, especially the rollback and versioning thing. Not a complete dealbreaker but yes, it is worse than dnf in that regard.
>lack of btrfs snapshts, atomic variant
Meh

>>105747466 (OP)
systemd

>>105751500

>>105752138
>Source? I'm actually interested if you have one
Just something I have heard said by Debian people over the years. Most recently, on a mailing list regarding why GNOME in Trixie doesn't have the new Adwaita font and remains on Cantarell. The guy literally said that the team was exhausted.
>What more do you want?
Not dropping to a shell every 5 seconds. Try getting an up to date Firefox on stable. You either have to drop to the shell to add Flathub, or drop to the shell to add Mozilla APT repository. And no, not everything works on ESR. Like Slack 2FA for instance.
>Partitioner
You read my mind :) And tasksel. It's hard for me to comment on the rest as I always do expert install so I forget the non-expert steps.
>Security-patched rolling release
Examples of what? It is well known that the Debian security team does not patch Testing.
>Lack of snapshots/atomic
I recently bailed on Debian because I had one of my hardware components suddenly glitch out, making the system unusable. I tried rolling back the kernel but that didn't help. Yes, it was probably my fault. No, I did not have an OS backup. So I changed OS just to see if it was a hardware or software thing. It was hardware, but by the time I figured that out, I was comfy on the new OS. Obviously if I had my shit together I would have managed that better, but yeah.

>>105752685
Sorry I meant to say, it was software. The new OS fixed the hardware glitch.

>>105747466 (OP)
It's not 2004 anymore. Up-to-date software is a priority nowadays. "MUH STABLE" thing is pointless.

Nothing. Debian 12, KDE on X11 session is what "Linux" should be.

>>105751622
So just a lack of nothing burgers?

>>105752738
This but Xfce

debian's distro model is a relic from back when people installed loonix from a CD they got in the mail

>>105752062
could the outdated gcc from debian stable compile C/C++23 codes?

>>105752758
Huh?

>>105753068
No, also who cares.

>>105747466 (OP)
Their hatred of white people

>>105751500
>>105751500

this is the answer, they suicided ian.

>>105752685
>source?
>Just something I have heard
typical

>>105747466 (OP)
it got infested by the woke

>>105757018
mind virus

>>105747466 (OP)
neckbearsd