Thread 105766828

>gets completely blown away in performance by SteamOS running every API call through compatibility layer
Winbloat is really that bad, huh?

>>105766852
Really?
Can you show us the stats for Valorant, Fortnite, League of Legends, Apex Legends and CoD please?
You know, the most popular games in the world?

>>105766865
>he plays slop
SHIGGY DIGGY

>>105766865
>games that require literal spyware to function

>>105766865
So you exclusively play
>le popular thing
? Get fucked, you mindless piece of shit.
And also, playing FPS on console? You're one sick motherfucker

>>105766865
You do know they take screenshots of your screen every second at a kernel level and send them home to their Chinese servers without you noticing do you? Hopefully you aren't using your computer for anything else than gayming

>>105766852
Show me a test of Windows with Windows Hypervisor, VBS, Core Isolation, Defender disabled and using DXVK vs. A Linux distro that does not use a heavily patched kernel using Proton. Then we can have a fair comparison.

>>105766828 (OP)
What does bing bing wahoo have to do with Linux?

>>105767015
>Show me a test where several advantages are added to Windows and all advantages are removed from Linux
Are you retarded?

>>105767143
>Mindlessly believes tests of Windows with default settings vs. Linux with DXVK, a heavily patched kernel and minimal services running in the background as conclusive or scientific.
Are all freetards this retarded?

>>105767177
Is Microsoft paying you well or do you shill for free?

>>105767177
Most Linux users don't run database servers in the background. Idk why you are convinced that the average Linux install has a huge amount of services slowing shit down.

>>105767198
idk why you lack basic reading comprehension and cognitive skills.

>>105767015
>Show me a heavily patched Windows compared to a general purpose kernel build that isn't using a compatibility layer
Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>105767210
>Do you even know what you're talking about?
You clearly don't. You have a surface level understanding of OSes.

>>105767206
Are you really gonna pretend you didn't just say "minimal services" when shit like steamos is mid tier bloated by Linux standards?

>>105767015
>Show me a test of Windows with Windows Hypervisor, VBS, Core Isolation, Defender disabled and using DXVK vs. A Linux distro that does not use a heavily patched kernel using Proton. Then we can have a fair comparison.
Oh you mean all those things anticheats are starting to require? From the same games wintoddlers cope about?

>>105767235
The difference is I don't have to "patch" or do anything special to Linux to get it to run well. SteamOS is a pretty barebones arch install with KDE and Steam. Show me this ultra optimized Windows edition where I don't need to do all that tinkertranny crap.
Also Proton is a handicap. Running games natively will only make Linux look better lol

>>105767239
>by Linux standards
I hope you understand this makes no sense. Even having a compositor is considered bloat by some, and a desktop environment is considered bloat by some. "Linux" is just a kernel. A "Linux distro" can put whatever they want on top of the kernel. There are no standards.
>>105767245
The only anticheat that requires Memory Integrity is FACEIT. The rest don't need Windows Hypervisor Platform, VBS or Core Isolation or Defender. The games that you see in the Windows vs Proton benchmarks also aren't games that require Memory Integrity. Are all Linux worshippers this misinformed? Why don't you care about real tests about what Linux and Windows are *truly* capable of?
>>105767314
That's a good point. You can get higher framerates just by installing SteamOS, without tinkering. But disabling these features are a matter of clicking through a view menus on Windows and using DXVK, it's not on the level of tinkertranny Linux patching.

>>105766885
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>>105766945
>playing with your friends.... le bad!
okay shut-in incel, I know the concept of speaking to another person is alien to you.
concession accepted, lintroons btfo

>>105767349
>Why don't you care about real tests about what Linux and Windows are *truly* capable of?

Because Microsoft clearly doesn't care about what Windows is *truly* capable of. It should be extremely embarrassing that games can run better on Linux when they weren't even compiled to run on Linux, lmao. Microsoft can't even properly debloat their OS to run on handhelds - you have to do all the work!

>>105767349
Ok so you're a retard, then. Putting that aside though, why the fuck would you ever even consider disabling windows defender? I'm pretty sure if you go full retard and disable it, windows will eventually try to reenable it.
Why are you even suggesting people need to gimp their windows to play video games?

>>105767405
Fair enough. Apparently Microsoft will release the custom Windows build for their Xbox handheld to the public.
>>105767415
Because Linux does not have an antivirus running in the background and are we trying to be even remotely objective and scientific when comparing the two OSes??
I am not telling people to run Windows without an AV, but it is a variable that affects framerates, which Linux users like to ignore and don't account for in their tests.

Linux is such hut garbage that I could care less about an alleged handful of frames. Plus it usually comes back to
>no but MUH AMD on Linux v Windows
Real brainrot shit

Use case for Linux?

>>105767381
>his friends only play slop
I would feel bad for you but I don't have any empathy for single cell organisms.

>>105767440
If you're not telling me to run windows without defender, why the fuck would you ever benchmark it without? You're obviously going to get useless results because nobody does that. Linux has security shit like apparmor too.

>>105767512
It's a variable that affects framerates. Ignoring all of this and choosing to tout sensationalist statements such as "Linux gets higher FPS than Linux!" without looking at the full story only serves tribalists and people who are clueless about operating systems.

>>105767533
than Windows*

>>105766865
>putting malware from gaming companies on your personal computer
BASED ZOOMIE

>>105767440
I doubt defender is the problem. It takes half a second for the right click menu to show up in most cases. You're running a browser in your start menu. You have an overengineered compositor trying to render 5 different toolkits. You have copilot running on standby 24/7.
Windows has clearly lost the plot to anyone tech literate. It's barely functional even for normie tasks. This should have been clear back in 10 when most people where cracking LTSC installs. I really do tinker less on Linux than I would trying to make Windows bearable enough to use as a daily driver. I'd buy a Mac before ever installing Windows 11. And of course, there's no excuse that games run faster on Linux through Proton, literally emulating a Windows platform under Linux. Back in Windows 7 doing the same was at least a 25% performance decrease.

>>105766828 (OP)
>thinking aislop code from ms is going to fix windows performance issues
lol

>>105767533
Mate, I used windows for 30 years. There are more problems than fucking defender, which ain't a problem at all. You can't fix windows, only Microsoft can. If you try to tinkertroon windows, it will just run like shit and break in unexpected ways. Stop pretending like that's viable.

>>105766828 (OP)
>Get it
>Load SteamOS on it anyways

Although I supposed dual booting would be the best of both worlds, but who would want to play competitively on a fucking handheld?

>>105766852
>Winbloat
It's called XBloat now, old man.

>>105767455
>Real brainrot shit

You're on 4chan, you fucking incel

>>105766865
Only if you show me what platforms those games are played on most.

>>105767651
go back

>>105767381
I love how zoomers are so insecure they can't admit they like things others find bad or cringe, immediately shoving unrelated sociopolitical themes in between them and the attacker

>>105766865
I use Windows because it just works for me and think every linux DE is trash but come on if you play these trash games you should kys.

>>105767381
I play day z and dota 2 with my friends and I sure as shit don't use a controller for that. Controllers are for casual games.

>>105766828 (OP)
>windows will become less shit
neat, but that wont make linux worse. great to have competition

>>105766828 (OP)
I'd get one that doesn't look like a toy. The Switch 2 is too big, IMHO, but the aesthetics is almost pro.

>>105766945
Honestly just make a dedicated gaming rig and use it exclusively for gaming
I'm not excusing this anticheat behavior, just saying it's a good compromise