Arch is the single best linux distribution for basically 99% of people unless you have a genuine honest to God edge case that REQUIRES you to use something else and any hate oriented towards it is born purely out of refusing to just quickly look up their issue on the wiki or carefully reading said wiki and there is zero proving me wrong on this.

>it's unstable
Complete meme, there's almost never any issues with bleeding edge packages and even if you DO somehow have an issue you can just downgrade said package and hold updates on it until it's fixed.
>it's too hard
Skill issue. Learn to read - it's no more complicated than any other distro the installation is debatably the hardest part of using Arch and even that isn't difficult.
>the community is toxic
It's toxic against questions asked which can be easily answered by just reading the wiki - naturally someone would be annoyed with the 80 millionth question about how to install the OS.

Just admit it - you don't use it because you either can't read or just don't wanna manage your own system - the latter of which is okay but the former is inexcusable mid wit behavior.

Ubuntu is supported

>>105773450 (OP)
First week using Arch?

>>105773454
by canonical, aka boer microsoft

>>105773464
By the majority of software packages

Arch's biggest problem is that upstream packages aren't named after what they do, they're named after random shit. What's the thing that makes printers work? cups. Cups of what? What's the file manager called? Dolphin!? That's a Wii emulator! For this reason alone most people who do more with their computer than broose can't use Arch as their first Linux.

>>105773473
Now try installing a web browser after blocking snapd

>>105773454
Their snap ecosystem is what ruined ubuntu for me.

>>105773474
package developer issue - not an arch issue plus the wiki redirects to the packages in question upon a query stop being retarded

>>105773474
This is why distros with preinstalled software are always shit. You have no idea what's actually on it and end up downloading duplicates of everything anyway. A distro should come with networking+HID drivers and a package manager.

>>105773450 (OP)
So why should I use Arch on my new build rather than Mint? I'm used to Mint since I've used it before.

>>105773576
You can't run new hardware with old software

>>105773450 (OP)
>or just don't wanna manage your own system
Yes. Why would I want to do that?

>>105773450 (OP)
Debian-based distros just work and compulsive updooting is retarded. I don't see the point in typing sudo pacman -Syu every few hours just for some minor changes that aren't user-facing at all.

>>105773637
Shiny new stuff syndrome affects millions of people every year anon it is a very serious problem

Ubuntu 24.04 is better though

>>105773717
The "shiny new stuff" you fogies are so smug about is usually bugfixes. You know those things you pretend to backport but actually don't even when they're security-relevant.

>>105773588
Explain. Is it not being maintained anymore?

>>105773788
You probably want functional drivers for your shiny new graphics card.

I'm on a metered connection so I don't wanna updoot the whole system whenever I need one package. Pacman only works when you update whole system. dnf and apt don't have this issue.

Most people want games to work, and that means that the only correct choice is Gentoo, because prebuilt binaries literally are dysfunctional slop that, for example, crashes graphics drivers.
This used to happen on arch constantly. Meanwhile on Gentoo, my uptime is always over a month, because that's how long it takes for next kernel update.

>>105773908
>over a month, because that's how long it takes for next kernel update
yikes!

>>105773637
i literally only update every 2-3 months
what are you even talking about?

>>105774121
I update like once a year max

>>105773450 (OP)
I remember when I installed arch *right* after grub broke. I installed it two more times thinking I made a mistake since it took a few days until I heard about grub being broken. I rolled it back and could finally use my system. Still I think arch is a fine distro.

I just want to know why Pacman uses switches instead of verbs like it's 1980 and we still use 300 baud modems.

>>105774181
Because nobody cares to change it, feel free to make a patch, even if nobody cares, you can patch your own pacman to have whatever switches you want.

>>105773928
>>105774121
i never update.
it's working.

If you update very seldomly, it breaks more often. At the very least you might be forced to manually update the keyring first. If the machine is not used much, arch makes less sense, especially if your other machines also don't.
It synergizes with RSS feed usage. Subscribing to arch news makes sense so in the rare event of a breakage, you are often prepared and now what to do.

>>105773454
doesn't work for desktop
>new app version released
>have to wait 6mo to a year to get it
by that time 2 new versions release

>>105773738
ubuntu and debian continue to distribute broken cd burning apps to this day

>>105773474
As OP said
>Skill issue. Learn to read
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications

>>105773810
Yes, and you're doing an awful job of explaining why Arch would do this while Mint wouldn't.

>>105774860
Arch packages are relatively up to date. Mint mesa is from last year.
You would have to frankenstein your system.

>>105773450 (OP)
Agreed, but at the cost of security, freedom, rigor and robustness. If you care about these things you are better served by Fedora, Debian or openSUSE.

>>105773450 (OP)
I use an Arch podman container, you dumb bitch. I'm way cooler than you are. Bet you don't even know what a podman container is.

>>105773450 (OP)
Arch itself isn't unstable, it's just the shitty devs who put not functioning packages into the main repo instead of the testing one.
>FirmwareAMDGPU caused black screen
>That infamous GRUB thing from yrs ago

>>105774957
i bet you're a retarded frognigger who got filtered by lxc

>>105775021
>furiously searches for "containers" on the arch wiki
>posts the first result that comes up and pretends to know what it is
hahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMFAO

>>105775052
what podman features do you use that made you choose it over lxc?

>>105773450 (OP)
I download one of the easy to use arch variants then tell people I use arch. I love it.

What happens.

I download the ISO.
I install it.
I use the computer.

>>105775123
>no response
you bodied that freak anon

>>105773869
what? simply sudo pacman -Sy && sudo pacman -S [whatever package you wanna update]

I prefer NixOS. Declarative package management is just flat-out superior to CLI.

>>105776301
This is what the linux pros do anon, you made the right choice.

>>105773450 (OP)
>Skill issue.
Meaning that it's completely unsuitable for 99% of users.

today I updated my arch install after a month or so, just to break it. after troubleshooting for 20min or so on my phone and booting on the arch iso, I finally figured it out why: I saw a post on their website about linux-firmware breaking pacman and followed their instructions, but they only mention nvidia on there, I wasn't aware I needed a package for amdgpu and intel, particularly because I assumed the packages amd-ucode and intel-ucode already covered this since amdgpu is built in.
what is the difference between "microcode" and firmware then? why can't they not break stuff and require the user to go to their website for help? I spent too long gawking a screen with "could not find display lmfao" with no idea what I did wrong.

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>>105776499
partial upgrade. pacman -Syu {package}

Arch needs a easy way to setup rollback until then I'm staying with tumbleweed

Arch isn't Ubuntu certified for my Dell Laptop

>>105776920
if it works with outdated garbage it will surely work with arch

>>105776926
https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops
No, there's no arch certified laptops. Only Ubuntu certified laptops. I will never use a laptop that isn't certified to work with Ubuntu, as I have a job where reliability matters.

>>105776959
Pussy

>>105776985
t. Jobless loser

>>105776920
>arch
>certified nowhere
>works on everything
>ubuntu
>"certified" on every minor variation of every laptop model
>live usb doesn't even boot on half of them
it really do be like that tho

>>105776816
>>105776499
wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenance#Partial_upgrades_are_unsupported

>>105779241
Support means they hold your hand. You can still do it if you want, no one is going to stop you.

>>105779288
and break your system lmao. Thanks but I'll just use mint

>tfw no moth gf to show lamps to

>>105779400
I like mint but it is easier to break than arch no doubt about that

>>105779494
Arch is the only distro i've used where the package manager shits itself and breaks the system lmao.

>>105776783
The firmware thing is just two commands, and the update only fails to run if you don't do those commands. It doesn't break anything.
The microcode thing was a while ago, longer than a month back, and it required an optional change to how you run microcode in your mkinitcpio. You can leave it alone and nothing will break.
I think you just got a bit confused somewhere.

>>105779652
Ok

>>105779652
Arch is the only distro that actually requires you to read a manual and their news.

>>105776783
Microcode is for your processor
Firmware is for all the other hardware.
Microcode is loaded with the initramfs since your processor is needed at boot
Firmware can be loaded in the initramfs or later as a module.

>>105779814
I've been doing fine for the past 3 years without reading the manual or the news.

I use Fedora because I asked a neckbeard 3 years ago which distro to use if I also wanted to play vidya on Linux and he said Fedora because anything Debian based will have the finest packages of 1876.
So far I've had none of the problems my Arch friends constantly have with their systems, despite them claiming Arch is better.

>>105773450 (OP)
>for basically 99% of people
>Skill issue. Learn to read
99% of people are retarded

>>105773450 (OP)
it's pretty much the best atm but you should learn how to fix it when shit goes wrong. some shit goes bad once in a while, updates that break shit, dependency changes and that kinds of shits. works nice until it doesn't, and if you don't know how to fix it then most normies will just rage wipe it all.
community...dunno, who gives a fuck. "toxic" is a pretty retarded word anyway. there's super technical people having to deal with entitled and lazy retards, sometimes they pop, it's pretty much understandable. don't think most of them get paid. or any of them lmao