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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:35:49 AM No.105786625
compete
compete
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if tech doesn't hire americans, why don't americans just create new tech and companies to compete with them? wasn't a big issue of the last few decades that most of the tech talent was stolen by big companies and put to work on useless attention stealing apps? if they aren't hiring anymore, why not compete by creating new companies and actually useful technology?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:38:16 AM No.105786635
>>105786625 (OP)
I'll get right on that. can you link me to the $200 million dollar loan you are providing?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:39:35 AM No.105786648
>>105786635
you get paid when people buy your product
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:43:14 AM No.105786673
>>105786648
ant the product magically falls out of the sky, right?

you're dumb as a fucking rock
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:44:41 AM No.105786687
>>105786673
>ant the product magically falls out of the sky, right?
you create the product with your skills that aren't being used by big tech
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:51:08 AM No.105786736
>>105786625 (OP)
>if tech doesn't hire americans, why don't americans just create new tech and companies to compete with them?

The answer is in your question
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:53:50 AM No.105786761
>>105786736
so you don't have the skills to create anything outside of a tech company that anybody could even want to pay for?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:57:19 AM No.105786787
>>105786625 (OP)
Gweilos are expensive.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:57:49 AM No.105786788
>>105786761
Fine, you need help. I'll help you.

If Americans wanted to compete with the current tech companies by creating new tech companies, they would also end up hiring non-Americans. Otherwise they would not be able to compete.

It is not a question of skill of a couple individuals. You need the brainpower and workforce, and for that, foreign workers are either cheaper and/or smarter.

Essence of capitalism: maximizing efficiency while minimizing costs.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:59:37 AM No.105786795
I remember reading that whiyes were merely contractors that came in, fixed the shitcode and left until.the next time
>>105786788
>make ur planes crash
>murder whistleblowers
>line go up
peak crapitalism
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:00:31 PM No.105786803
>>105786788
if that were true, companies would just move to india, instead of bringing indians to america to cannibalize american companies and scam investors
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:02:07 PM No.105786813
>>105786803
meaning that you need some level of creativity and good engineering to get started, before you are able to just swamp your company with low quality, low cost labor. that creativity and engineering is now being liberated to work on other things if it's not being hired by big tech
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:03:44 PM No.105786830
>>105786803
>Companies often keep headquarters, management, and r&d in the US for proximity to investors, customers, regulations, and market influence
>risks of fully relocating (legal, logistical, etc)
>being US-based enables better financing, stock market presence.
>moving everything abroad loses direct economic activity domestically.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:04:23 PM No.105786836
nasim
nasim
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>>105786625 (OP)
>unironically muh free market mongoloid
The market is saturated, we're in end stage neoliberism so good fucking luck in trying to find a niche where to emerge. Even if you magically get to a point of being competitive to a big corpo they will simply switch back to the venture capitalism model and asphalt your company in no time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:07:21 PM No.105786858
>>105786836
it's not about free market, it's about freed potential
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:08:27 PM No.105786864
>>105786858
That you can't employ because the market is saturates.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:13:43 PM No.105786897
jeet-maxxing
jeet-maxxing
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>>105786864
>That you can't employ because the market is saturates.
they are just replacing americans with indians:
>'Between May and June, Microsoft laid off 2,300 employees in Washington alone, including 817 software engineers ... During the same period, Microsoft submitted 6,327 H-1B visa requests for software engineer roles matching the same job titles and location as those affected by the layoffs'
>https://www.wnd.com/2025/07/microsoft-dumps-thousands-american-workers-favor-cheaper-foreign/
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:22:41 PM No.105786948
>>105786897
Yes, because once you reach the end of the map (monopoly) the only thing left for profiting is to cannibalize yourself: cutting wages by switching your employee with subhumans (DEI) while also gaining stock trust because of the ESG score points gained that allow for securing more debit with banks. Welcome to end stage neoliberism nigger, enjoy this selfdestructive ouroboros ride.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:36:16 PM No.105787043
>AMERICA FIRST!
they were cheering in their race to the fucking rock bottom
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:39:16 PM No.105787069
>>105786625 (OP)
>why dont you just use your own money to create your own companies
you mean the ones that cant compete because none of us had any money to start with since jews confiscated our wealth generationally through fiat the last 55 years?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:42:05 PM No.105787095
>>105787069
why you need money? just buy a laptop for $100 and pool work with a couple of friends, most Startups don't have that many workers
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:42:56 PM No.105787103
>>105786625 (OP)
what, you mean like right now? because they had been doing that right up until the last 2 years when the money ran out and no one is investing in anything. investment in big tech is also winding down, hence why these companies are switching to hiring h1bs. note that these h1bs aren't actually meant to serve any kind of real practical purpose, like creating new products or whatever. rather they're there to keep the lights on and act as some kind of reassurance to the investment crowd that they're still a growing company.

there might also be some kind of managerial emotional thinking involved, like i think a lot of managers (even at the highest levels) are upset with the advent of widespread remote work, and are possibly traumatized by the covid era and its empowered workers that would job hop, work 7 jobs at once or generally just be shitheads because they could get away with. so now they want to get h1bs because they can force them to work on-site, pay them shit, overwork them, bully them, call them names etc. whatever they feel like because h1bs can't job hop or quit due to threat of deportation.

most of the costs involved with h1bs is ultimately paid by the taxpayer anyway. a single bargain bin h1b entering the country means there's a new person to supply with food, housing, medicine, clothes, etc. but productivity will likely remain the same or even go down because the h1b is just replacing an existing productivity creator (an american worker). it's actually incredibly counterproductive to try to import foreign workers in the middle of a recession, like it impoverishes EVERYONE in the country, and serves 0 purpose except to try to stomp down wages and create social unrest and desperation. it's also a way for companies to socialize the costs of their hiring, but in a truly retarded fashion it doesn't actually even accomplish much anything for that company except sate the egos of the managerial class and keep the line going up for another quarter.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:44:14 PM No.105787115
Nah I think I'll get a job anyways. I'm a talented programmer and can even build AI software. I work hard to stand out, just finished 100 LeetCode problems. I believe in myself and will do my best.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:44:33 PM No.105787118
>>105786625 (OP)
Honestly, I really liked software and technology when I started a decade ago. The modern workplace really sucked the soul out of me, usually by the way bosses, deadlines and workflows are. I can't believe what kind of a hollow shell I became and I don't wish to be in this state of mind to any american. Have you ever turned on the pc and just felt really empty, you opened up something to work on and it just feels entirely pointless, because the project does more harm than good? You get to a point where economics don't matter anymore, you just want everything to be over with. It's nice to have stable income and work from home, but you are effectively in a forever prison inside a system that takes your contributions to oppress you even further. Maybe someone can give me some advice here
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:46:36 PM No.105787128
>>105787103
basically AI failed, i mean AI works, but it doesn't increase productivity, you can't sell it, and it's very easy to replicate so if you invest trillions the next guy is just going to replicate it in 2 months by prompting your model

that was the last scam for investors that big tech in the US invented, now they are fucked, there's no cheap credit anymore, even Elon got fucked after Trump shot down the green credits scam
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:46:36 PM No.105787129
>>105787118
I can't relate with your demoralized state of mind. I have made a living working in illegal conditions at poverty wages and have goals in life beyond money. I think the reason why I can't be demoralized is because I am a Muslim.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:47:37 PM No.105787136
>>105787115
have you tried being indian instead?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:48:02 PM No.105787138
>>105787129
Interesting, what are your goals beyond money?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:54:24 PM No.105787181
tuna
tuna
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>>105787095
to pay a land lord/tax man/grocery/electric bill for long enough for us to make something retard.

I already have product ideas in mind I want to do, but unless you are willing to pay me full time without gaurentee to get what i am making how can I possibly quit my current job to do that? The worst case scenario isn't that my product doesn't sell, the worst case scenario is I never am able to get even a job equal to what I have again and I become homeless. I need a buffer between the cold to work on my project full time. everyone does.

don't you understand why so many people are complaining about rent, taxes, and cost of living? nobody can afford to do this unless they are fortunate.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:56:25 PM No.105787198
>>105787181
trick the doctor into diagnosing you as autistic and get on NEETbucks, all the cool kids are doing it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:04:43 PM No.105787251
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>>105787198
did you miss the news? that shit is gone. trump is blaming neet buxers but the reality is most program users will be cut off. I dont really care as I make more waging than could ever land me into those programs anyway. but basically no thats not a solution. I even have a friend who has been trying to get on it for years due to his bad back being the result of assault by family members and chronic illnesses. its been almost 2 years and counting.

my options are either, become charismatic enough to convince a bunch of people to pay me at once, or become lucky enough for one person to pay me a lot, to make my product. theres literally no other (fast) way.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:07:00 PM No.105787268
>>105787198
nta, that's what (((they))) want you to do, good luck getting a woman let alone raising a family that way
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:07:13 PM No.105787270
>>105787251
this is gamer genocide
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:08:14 PM No.105787284
>>105787268
just get a woman that is as good as you at scamming the system and pop a bunch of kids without working, teach them greek and latin
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:09:33 PM No.105787295
>>105787270
we were warning you all along, but those smug pepes, right? right, just one of the many psyops you retards keep falling for