America is setting thousands of automatic license plate reading cameras in every city. They will know every street and stop you go to.

And?

I took my license plate off

I first found out about this watching a criminal interrogation video on youtube where the detectives showed car data of his car driving across the country to kill his mom

First thing I thought is why the fuck is this allowed?

>>105790962
You just answered your own question

>>105790962
>why the fuck is this allowed?
It's for our own safety.

>>105790971
>You just answered your own question

You know what would solve even more murders? A camera in every bedroom the three letter agencies could access at any moment

>>105790921 (OP)
Arent there already hundreds of covers for your license plate? Who thought this was a good idea?

>>105791002
You're right, it would solve more murders. Again, answering your own question.
Do you have a habit of rhetorical questions?

Wait till you find out businesses and even strange individuals have been doing this for years, building up their own parallel databases of license plates and their travels.
Police car have had plate scanning cameras for about two decades, so the government side of things is nothing new.

>>105791064
In Russia they have literal drones to assassinate rival businesses. Nothingburger.

>>105790921 (OP)
ok. i walk. and frankly idgaf if the govt spies on me in public.
no one should have an expectation of privacy in public. everyone has a cameraphone, every business has cameras... they are everywhere.

>>105790962
>First thing I thought is why the fuck is this allowed?
Streets are public. The government is allowed to record it.

And guess what. Every time your phone connects to an antenna, the government knows precisely where you are.

>>105791129
>Streets are public. The government is allowed to record it.

With retards who think like this we are fucked

>>105791149
You too are allowed to record public spaces.

>>105791064
None of the plate scanners store data for any significant period of time. This would be trivial of course, but the government is largely inept. As well the information would be circumstantial anyway.
They use these things as tools to acquire evidence or acquire probable cause not as the evidence or probable cause itself.

Not that that stops them from trying or it eventually progressing to that, since the court seema to be beta cucks who suck law enforcement dick instead of doing their actual job which is being a check and balance against them.

Court and local legislator elections are extremely important for this reason, but good luck getting the average slop golem to think about anything other than red vs blue big 4 year election.

>>105791171
>None of the plate scanners store data for any significant period of time
false, all records are required to be kept for at least one year (it's just a string and a timestamp, LOL).

>>105791123
Good cuck

>>105790921 (OP)
They already know? There's already security cameras, dashcams, phones. Haven't you seen the videos where they track vehicles through the entire country?

>>105791160
>You too are allowed to record public spaces.

Yeah bro that's the same thing as the government having instant knowledge of where you are the second you open your front door by millions of 3rd party AI cameras installed on every street

>>105791222
Just don't use a car.
Cars were always used to track people by the governments. Especially now that most of them have built-in mobile (meaning they have an IMEI that broadcasts their position to every antenna nearby).
Same shit with phones. Do you believe in the delusion that just because you have some custom ROM, you are free from the government? Nigger, you are using antennas for data. They keep records for decades of when you connected, at what strength and when you disconnected.
The government doesn't need Google data.

>>105791179
One, you're talking about flock specifically.
Two, rEqUiReD by who lol?

Do you mean required to have any purpose whatsoever? Yes, I agree, a plate and a timestamp is a useless data set.

>>105791266
>Just don't use a car.

Lmao this isn't a car thing, holy fuck, you people are so short sighted

>>105791300
>Two, rEqUiReD by who lol?
Data-keeping laws.
>I agree, a plate and a timestamp is a useless data set.
Not at all. Put on a map all the places and the time you spend to reach every camera; you can EASILY point out potential deviations of route and where one may have gone since you know the places with cameras.
Someone can know where you were with a block of precision. And then he can look for known cameras in that block to maybe have access to records (if something recent).

>>105791348
Car will always be trackable. If not by plates, by the serial number on the glass (which you are not allowed to cover).
I just point out that it's pointless to care about the government tracking your car if you have a phone.
I mean, Snowden showed us that the NSA can turn on the microphone on every iphone at any time. And you are worried about cameras used mostly to fine bad drivers?

>>105791129
brought to you by inqtel and google maps

>>105791171
oh i get it, youre retarded

>>105791089

FYI Flock keeps posting jobs for drone designers

>>105791404
>Car will always be trackable. If not by plates, by the serial number on the glass (which you are not allowed to cover)

What the hell are you on about?

Theres no camera system reading a tiny vin on a dash in real time

Without AI plate reading cameras up until recently you could hop into any pre-2015 shitbox like pic related and drive 1000 miles in a day without anyone knowing about it

This isn't a car thing, the AI in these camera systems will know who you are by your face and how you walk and it will be instantaneously available

>>105791381
They can know where your license plate was, yes. This is exactly why they can't use a plate scan alone as a reason to pull you over, because whom the car is registered to is almost useless information. Again, this is a tool to acquire evidence and probable cause - not the basis of those things.

Which they can and have been doing for decades already, cameras just make it easier. I'm surprised it even took this long.

>>105791414
Yeah in your estimation? Which part exactly, should be a laugh.

I'm entirely opposed to flock, like many legistators and city councils that have outlawed their use. I just prefer to argue in reality not in a tinfoil anime plot.

>>105791458
>Theres no camera system reading a tiny vin on a dash in real time
I think it's so cute you believe this.
There is a reason why highway cameras cost millions...

>>105791160
There's a big difference between
- anon recording a 5 minute clip on his phone, at ground level;
- a government recording non-stop, from purpose-built towers, with tens of thousands of high tech cameras, analysing every frame, looking for correlations, and storing that data long term.

>>105791129
The government knows exactly who and when burglarized someone's house or stole some bike, all these "unsolved" crimes are just a reminder to us cattle that we are powerless.

>>105791507
>I think it's so cute you believe this.
>There is a reason why highway cameras cost millions...

I dont think you know what you're talking about

Tell me what national highway system is reading a shitty little vin instead of the plate

You cant even scan modern ones with a hand held scanner half the time because of windshield glare

>>105790949
I'm seeing a lot of cars driving around with no plates and no temp tags. I guess it's fine now.

>>105790921 (OP)
I find it hilarious that it's always during the rule of the "small government" party that this shit happens there lol.

>>105791576
its 2025 buttmilk, look at the image quality you can get out of a $0.06 phone camera

>>105791604
These are under the determined allowance of city and state governments, many of which have struck them down. Not even federally enforcable. If you're going to let us live in your head rent-free at least become moderately informed of the government structure, and probably the fundemental ethos of the republican party as well.

>>105790962
Zero trust society.
>(WHY)8SA

>>105791002
You really don't see what they're building, do you?
https://youtu.be/sQqQtgRdjZU?t=32

>>105790921 (OP)
read "Networks of New York: An Illustrated Field Guide to Urban Internet Infrastructure" by Ingrid Burrington (Melville House 2016). They mention the automatic license plate reader and a few other things

>>105790921 (OP)
Ok, so what. Just don't watch child porn in your car, pedo.

>>105791458
>you could drive 1000 miles in a day without anyone knowing about it
They knew. They just didn't give a shit.

>>105790921 (OP)
>not having one of them chinese alibaba gas power bicycles that you don't need to put any plate on

you only have yourself to blame

>>105791584
This is fucking america isn't it why the fuck do we tolerate this shit God himaelf only asks for a 10% tip and the state wanta fucking 40%

>>105790921 (OP)
They don't need this to track you. They already know where you've been and where you're going before you go there.

>>105790921 (OP)
Unfortunately the decision was tolerance or liberty

>>105793378
This.

>Carry fucking smart phone because why not spend a grand on some bullshit social media dopamine depression inducer
>It literally real time feeds your GPS data, camera feeds, microphone audio, etc to whoever
>Worry about someone tracking you

Lmao

>>105793484
>>105793378
OK so why is it there then

>>105791815
but but right wing chuds are there to be owned

>>105790921 (OP)

>>105790921 (OP)
They already do retard its called your phone

>>105793709
to track you

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/but-wait-theres-more/a1704461/heres-why-steve-jobs-got-same-new-car-every-six-months/

"""
The rumor was that as soon as Jobs’ new car got a scratch, he replaced it. That he was a super-rich guy makes the explanation almost believable, but the real story is much simpler.

It was the license plates. Jobs hated license plates. California allowed for the first six months of car ownership, depending on a few things, you didn’t have to plate it. Jobs worked out a deal to lease a new car every 180 days or so and therefore never had to have a plate. Skipping the time spent at the DMV was probably incentive enough.
"""

>>105790962
Who's stopping you from killing me?

>>105794082
wdym? if i had the will and means you would be dead. therefore i do not want you dead.

They never needed license plate readers to do this when your tires are sending individually registered serial numbers of your vehicle's TPMS sensors to everything within 50 feet

They also never needed TMPS sensors with individual serial numbers sending them unencrypted to everything within 50 feet, or license plate readers, when every car after 1996 has one of these battery powered always-on p2p cellphones installed it in by law which also doubles as a listening device.

>>105794619
remember when we boogalooed over a 2% tax on tea?

>>105790921 (OP)
These things have been around since the 80's. What the fuck are you complaining about?

>>105795048
Bro cameras have been out 80 years so let me put one in your room. You don't care right retard?

>>105791129
Not him, but he's talking about vehicle telemetry.

>>105794082
I'd kill you if I had my gun.

>>105791525
They aren't interested in burglars because it's not a threat to national security. If anything the burglars are helping them by keeping people focused on personal issues and identity politics.
What they really care about is if law abiding citizens suddenly find a reason to no longer be law abiding because those are the truly dangerous ones. Normal people turned criminal will want to violently overthrow the government when they get tired of the robber baron pedophile elites.

>>105791525
>>105791525
Actually you're wrong. If you own a fixed security camera on your house and as long as it isn't viewing into the home of your neighbor, it can capture the public 24/7 and track every person, dog and car that drives by and that's allowed because the area outside of your house is public. The difference? You don't own 10 houses at 10 different locations.

If you wanted to you could sit on a bench and record with a camera in your hand in perpetuity. You could pay others to do the same at different locations. The only reason you wouldn't is because eventually you'd get tired and go home and you don't have the resources to keep it up. That's it.

It's hilarious that dumb people like you demand freedoms, such as those like being free to record in public, then turn around and REEE when the government goes "aight, bet".

There is no expectations of privacy in public.

Say thanks to XiPing.

>>105790921 (OP)
why

>>105790921 (OP)
Wasn't it an American that said something along the lines of "Those who give up their freedom for safety deserve neither."???
Bit Ironic how they're so afraid of China, but are perfectly okay when it's their own grifting elite who do it.

>>105790921 (OP)
trump is big data's little bitch

>>105791525
>The government knows exactly who and when burglarized someone's house or stole some bike, all these "unsolved" crimes are just a reminder to us cattle that we are powerless.
This is the problem.
Big surveillance never actually works out in anybody's favor.
Case in point: NYC subway system.
Install cameras, reduce police presence... you know, they'll be on camera! We'll get em guys, don't worry!
Reality: They almost never get them, or the courts let them free to be repeat offenders.

Also schools for children.
In the 90s they were installing cameras in schools and busses. Supposedly, this should have allowed them to review footage and see what happened during incidents but they still always just suspended both the victims AND the bullies instead of protecting innocent victims with the proof they obviously had.

Today most schools have cameras everywhere yet bullying is rampant, recorded by the students themselves with their phones, posted onto social media yet the schools do nothing to stop it or intervene.

If big surveillance isn't even helping protect kids, what the fuck makes you think it'll help the general public? It very rarely does.

>>105790921 (OP)
USA is becoming China wtf

>>105794082
definitely not the us government, they'll arrive 20 minutes later, say "there's nothing we can do" and come steal your computers afterwards for "evidence".

>>105796679
t. scott ritter the twice convicted pedo

>>105790921 (OP)
If the Soviet Union won we would have surveillance cameras on every street!

>>105796952
no, cops just love stealing shit

Theyre logging every visit to the doctor, every purchase made with your card, every post made online, every movement done with your phone etc etc

And theyre only getting more data greedy. They want an AI to create a profile of every wageslave across the world which they track 24/7. Total control.

>>105797040
Yes, but nine-tenths of them wouldn't work.

>>105796026
>Actually you're wrong
then you carefully explain how I'm... right?
>dumb people like you demand freedoms
I don't demand anything and am not a burger. Also, this has nothing to do with my post, I didn't mention anything about rights or freedoms.

>>105790921 (OP)
Good. Every day, I suffer the ills of other people on the road doing illegal shit their consequences. Every day, some retard thinks he has a right to privacy, so he can commit some crime or cheat on his wife or whatever. We live in a society with automatic license plate readers, speed cameras, stoplight cameras and shit because most of you are spiritually niggers. You get the society you fucking deserve.

We need more surveillance desu.

Not only do older cars after 1996 have p2p cellphones which double as listening devices, 2007 and later vehicles have unencrypted bluetooth transmitting TPMS sensors which send individual serial numbers, but newer vehicles also have a 24/7 always on gps tracker cellphone which replaces the older 1996 modules which even uses wifi and bluetooth to geolocate the vehicle in buildings where gps satellites might have poor signal that can also be used to remotely unlock, start, or disable the vehicle https://youtu.be/Vn6i_oBA1lk
The collected data is sold to any individual who buys it, without consent of the vehicle's owner just like your unencrypted dns queries

>>105800964
maybe we do need a great reset

>>105790921 (OP)
Good. I'm tired of how these American subhumans are driving these days. If a camera catches them speeding a police officer blow out their tires then extrajudicially execute them.

you'll be datamined, reprofiled in a simulation, then reprogrammed without your consent or being aware. not because anyone asked you, just because it was efficient.
one day you'll wake up thinking things you never decided to believe.
that's the update, you don't get any patch notes.
>muh freedom
>muh free will

>>105791064
I noticed vans that transport prisoners have the cameras too, not one or two like a police car either, they'll have 4 or more cameras bolted on

well