I'm on fedora and I'm this close to switch to NixOS, is it yay or nay?

I'm a systems, networking and cloud computing student and I do gayming btw

>>105809402 (OP)
>student
>gayming
>asks for anon's approval
Use windows

>>105809402 (OP)
The project was taken over and the creator was booted from the project by a bunch of lunatics because the creator didn't bother declaring lgbt-supremacy.

I'm not making this up. I would be running NIX if this hadn't happened, because now it's only a question of time before NIX completely implodes.

>>105809408
My main PC is windows, I use fedora on my laptop for 4 years, I'm asking people to blackpill me about Nix

>>105809428
Jesus fucking christ, debian or fedora then? I'm getting tired of being a red hat guinea pig

Yay, but be prepared to write a lot of your own derivations. It's a high-effort, high-return distro.

>>105809447
>Jesus fucking christ, debian or fedora then?
>I'm getting tired of being a red hat guinea pig
Are you for real? fedora is literally red hat's guinea pig.
Come to Debian, it's great.

t. Debian user

>>105809402 (OP)
Are you a tranny? If yes go ahead and switch to NixOS

>>105809460
what's your DE?

>>105809469
Gnome. In my defense, KDE was krashing ATT on my laptop (my guinea pig lmao) so I gave gnome a shot.
I'll switch to KDE with Debian 13.

>>105809477
What do you think of Ubuntu? I have a RTX 4070 TI Super and I'm still a newbie when it comes to drivers on debian or linux in general

>>105809402 (OP)
Transsexual

>>105809487
>What do you think of Ubuntu?
Not much, Snap and other shit like forced telemetry that you need to opt-out of turned it from the once best distro to another failed project.
>I have a RTX 4070 TI Super
You're in good company lol. Pic related.
>I'm still a newbie when it comes to drivers on debian or linux in general
All you need is this tutorial:
>YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQP4qaaVIGQ
>Article of that Video:
https://interfacinglinux.com/2024/01/16/nvidia-cuda-on-debian-real-time-kernel/
Debian packages the 535 drivers, I've installed the 570 instead with the help of this tutorial.

>>105809572
Thanks a lot for the video, do you have to reinstall the drivers yourself or you can add some repo for every apt update?

>>105809402 (OP)
Ney. You will be bug squashing all day everyday. Nix isn't meant general purpose usage. It's mean for servers running limited software. You push one config and all machines update or downgrade. You can set up a new machine is minutes and then you don't touch it until the heavens call on you again.

If you're always tinkering and downloading shit Nix will rape you.

The ANIX STIG makes it perfect to build armored systems. Anduril industries uses it in the production line to manufacture weapons, so if you are not into information security I don't see a strong reason to use it.

>>105809402 (OP)
It depends, what color are your thigh-highs?

you know what the best desktop linux experience you can get is? using a distro nobody else uses that way you can troubleshoot all the stupid ass problems that pop up due to your unique combination of hardware on a shit ass distro that accomplishes nothing

>>105809644
so by your logic I should use Ubuntu

>>105809588
You have to reinstall and re-sign the drivers every time you want to update. There's no auto-update for this procedure unless you build one yourself with bash and cron. It's both a blessing and a curse, that's the tradeoff you get with Debian stable. But Debian stable is ridiculously stable. From what I've heard you _could_ use Debian testing instead, which is about as stable as regular windows because of Debian's standards are ridiculously high in this regard. But I have never done this personally and cannot really tell you what it is like.

>>105809644
Checked, that's why everyone should just stick to Debian. It's not called
>The universal operating system
for nothing.

>>105809428
name one tranny software that has imploded?

>>105809666
desu i had some nvidia and boot issues with debian. gonna sound like a meme but arch is the distro ive been using forever and had the least issues with. second up would be ubuntu. havent gone through a distro hopping phase since like 2015 though so things are likely much different.

>>105809666
Lastly, I'm thinking about going for AMD in my next rig, how easy it is to update AMD drivers?

>>105809663
its not a bad start more or less

you really need to have a good use case for trying out random meme distros

>>105809699
outside school and personal homelab projects i'm normalfagging

>>105809685
Your mileage may wary, if you're happy with Arch that's great and you have my respects because I cannot handle Arch lmao. But I wouldn't recommend it to someone who says "I'm a newbie".
>>105809695
That's the neat part, you don't update the AMD drivers.
They're bundled with the OS inside the MESA drivers as AMD is not a stuck up cunt like Nvidia and has open sourced their drives for this reason. You don't have to do anything if you're running AMD GPUs other than to type $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade once in a while on the cmdline or use the software store that comes with the DE you chose if you prefer a GUI approach.

>>105809669
nixOS

>>105809755
thx, i'll work on installing debian have a nice day

>>105809709
just use ubuntu or debian bro. or if you want to get a little fancy use arch. you dont need to know shit about computers to install arch since it has an install script now.

id rec arch just because the minimal amount of configuration adn stuff you need to do will force you to learn cli a little bit. over a long period of time it helps to "learn" linux. but the biggest benefit is a lot of people use it, and a lot are tryhards, so stuff is up to date and works much better than debian.

>>105809755
i figured out how to install arch when i was like 14 with a little help from some dudes on irc. it forces you to learn a little bit about linux which i think is helpful. theres an install script these days that requires 0 know how

but ubuntu is prolly the best general rec. only thing i would have against it is they had some scandal with their DE phoning amazon servers awhile back

>>105809779
>i figured out how to install arch when i was like 14 with a little help from some dudes on irc.
That's awesome. I started using Linux at 20, ballsdeep into uni and work so I didn't have the time to go at it with a fresh mind :/
>id rec arch just because the minimal amount of configuration adn stuff you need to do will force you to learn cli a little bit.
It is on my bucket list, but I'm not that much of a novice anymore. I just don't want to manage everything myself anymore, I just want things to work and they do with Debian without any problems.
>so stuff is up to date and works much better than debian.
I don't really need the newest of the newest stuff. It's going to be here all on Debian 13 and I'll finally have HDR support, but I'm in no rush for it.

>>105809402 (OP)
I started using it this year. It's okay. The main annoying thing is that it's a pain to run stuff not in nixpkgs but otherwise it's been fine for me.

>>105809779
I'm actually interested in dailying arch because no bloat at all, I've been playing it a bit with it since 2021 but never really jumped on it because of the insufferable fags who used to brag about it back then, I'm more confident about it since the steam deck runs arch too evendoe valve provides an official repo for it

>>105809467
>Are you a tranny? If yes go ahead and switch to NixOS
Pretty much
>let's invent elaborate abstractions and mental scaffolding
>doesn't really work in the real world
>just like cutting off our penis doesn't help in the real world
>although some Euro proved it does in 2003
Many such cases. Sad!

>>105809811
the up to date thing, at least in my experience, is more about random bugs that make stuff inconvenient. like one i can think of off hand was my VLC minimizing and maximizing to the wrong monitor. just nuisance type stuff like that. i encountered a lot of it on debian. but last time i tried debian was around 2015 so the experience might not be like that anymore. the linux experience in general is laden with stupid shit like this tho imo, and seems to be mitigated by newer packages

arch doesnt really require that much configuration or anything imo. or idk i might just be so used to doing it that i forgot. im too lazy to tweak and fuck with stuff these days. i remember pre systemd actually had a bunch of annoying stuff to juggle though.

bujt desu installing arch without the script isnt even that hard tho. the wiki is pretty straight forward. i forgot to mention the biggest thing about arch is the wiki is detailed even if you gotta fuck around with stuff to get it to work.

>>105809845
yea a lot of dork fags are probably attracted to arch because its the el1t3 poweruser choice despite it not actually being that hard to use.


anyway im starting to sound like a shill but those are just my (dated) opinions on distros. since systemd took over everything feels kinda the same anyway i think? maybe stuff like gentoo or slackware is actually a lot different but generally everythings about the same it feels like. at least as far as desktop usage goes. maybe if youre fucking around doing some more interesting stuff (ie GPU passthrough) the differences stand out

>>105809930
Thoughts on EndeavourOS?

>>105810062
It's good if you're too lazy or uninterested to set up arch yourself but want to try out pacman/aur. I like it a lot. Idk if it's good for your gayming though.

>>105810062
i mean if youre like brand new to linux, have limited time or effort, and the arch install script doesnt work (there was like a year long period where it was broken lol), i guess you could use one of those sorts of distros. ive never used one so i dont know what parts its supposed to make easy, or whatever. arch itself is already ez now. if my retarded ass figured a manual install out at 14 with a little help on irc you can def figure it out.

imo try out installing arch in a vm with the script and you will see how easy it actually is. theres a bit of configuration to do post install but thats not any different than any other distro.

>>105809402 (OP)
troonix users don't have anything better to do than distrohopping every other week for no reason

>>105810319
i'm not really brand new to linux, if you want an estimation of my linux skills and knowledge, I tinker with it since i'm 13 (i'm 19), I have a mini pc with debian CLI and a whole stack of docker containers for my homelab, and I passed easily LPIC 101 102, I just don't want to bother much with my fresh linux distrib for the things I said earlier (gayming, networking, school shit), it's just that I really switch my opinions WAY too fast and I'm super indecisive, I'll try out arch as my main distro

>>105810339
I use fedora since 2022 fuck off

>>105809402 (OP)
stay on fedora bro

>>105809402 (OP)
be ready to write your configs in a programming language that is a weird mix of JSON and ML. if that excites you, good for you, if not stay away

>>105811776
GNU Guile is superior. No contest.

>>105809428
>The project was taken over
Proof? How does this even happen? Can't the original dev just say fuck off and keep doing what they're doing?

imagine even considering nix when guix exists

bump

>>105809402 (OP)
NixOS is trash compared to Fedora Atomic. Nix language is a meme, you can get declarative configuration with bootc container files. You can easily rollback to previous versions of your install in case of broken updates with Fedora Atomic. There is no reason to use overly complicated shit like Nix in a world dominated by containers.

Using Nix to manage your "dotfiles" is a meme too, just use git to do that like a normal person. Nixpkgs and their 120,000 packages are a meme too, anyone can put anything in there. Even the 0 IQ Arch Loonix fans are better off using the AUR for package availability than using Nix.

Nix is just tinkertranny stuff. Any person who values their time will not use this nonsense. It has tranny drama too. There are trannies in Fedora Atomic community.

>>105809428
Trans power
Trans pride
Pick a fight with us and you will regret it

>>105814418
pride comes before the fall

>>105809402 (OP)
guix blows it out of the water. the nix language is a failed abortion

>>105813615
NTA and I know it's >lunduke but no one else covered this tectonic "shift" in leadership at all. It was highway robbery, really.
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5819317/nixos-commits-a-purge-of-nazi-contributors-forces-abdication-of-founder

>>105814638
Good. Nazis are NOT allowed in my safe FOSS space. NOT allowed.

>>105814665
Rent free, dipshit. You don't get to decide who's a nazi and who's not, especially not based on whether or not they've endorsed the fascist politics of mentally ill men who think cutting their junk off is their birthright.

>>105809402 (OP)
It doesn’t work.

>>105814735
works on my servers

>>105809572
wtf dude? he is giving a command sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386? why didn't he gave a command for majority of the users and why didn't he typed sudo dpkg --add-architecture amd64 ?

>>105812284
>Lisp autism
Thanks for selling me on Nix

>>105814678
We get to decide everything. GNOME rules desktop Linux and FOSS. Nix is just a small part of that community. Fascist maggots and Nazis NOT allowed. NOT. Trans power. Trans pride.

>>105815698
give it a rest, you're embarrassing yourself

>>105816473
Seethe about it. Trans people are writing all your precious free and open source software. Trans power. Trans pride.

>>105809572
Isnt mutter Wayland? You need 575 not 570 drivers for Nvidia on Wayland. 570 are way more broken.

>>105816907
>Isnt mutter Wayland?
Nope, not exclusively. It can also run X11 and if you really need to run X11 programs in wayland even Xwayland.
>You need 575 not 570 drivers for Nvidia on Wayland. 570 are way more broken.
If I were running wayland, yes. But I'm running X11. Pic rel.

>>105809402 (OP)
> Linux

I'm a Nazi and I use NixOS. It's pretty good.

>>105809402 (OP)
You can just install nix package manager. It will be the same, the only system will not be immutable

>>105815140
Because for some reason he needed the 32bit binaries. Haven't looked into the tutorial for a while, I forgot why exactly.

>>105809402 (OP)
Start with it running in a VM. There's a steep learning curve to nix, but it does things other distros can't. The management thing last year was shameful, but so far it hasn't caused any real technical issues.

>>105817092
Cannot install Nix package manager on Fedora without running into SELinux errors.

>>105817350
>SELinux
bullshit without tasks
nano /etc/selinux/config
SELINUX=disabled

>>105817360
Nice try Rakesh. You are not getting me to disable NSA-tier security on my machine just to install your shitty package manager.

>>105817377
Package managers are basically unnecessary, but OP this thread asks about Nix
However, I don't see the point of SELinux, it's useless

>>105817360
Who thought having windows event viewer level logspam show up every time you restart a good idea?

>>105817394
Yeah, keep trying Rakesh. I will not disable SELinux for you. If you can figure out a way to install Nix in Fedora WITHOUT disabling SELinux, then we can talk.

>>105817415
Can you tell me why SELinux is necessary? I don't mind changing my opinion about this crap

>>105817438
Sure, Big Tom for Red Hat can tell you all about it.
https://youtu.be/_WOKRaM-HI4