what laptop do you think will be the next successor to the great thinkpad? one that can compete with repairability and also be industructable for cheap in the used market

>>105813314 (OP)
Framework Laptop

>>105813425
def not cheap

>>105813433
Neither were the old corporate Thinkpads when they were new. If Framework can manage to stay in business you should be able to find used parts for cheap as people upgrade their laptops.

>>105813425
I hope they would make a fucking standard finally. A laptop should be like desktop but smaller. Why cant i buy a laptop motherboard of standard dimensions, with a socket that i can populate with a standard cpu for that socket, cram in standardized ram in it, add a gpu to the standard pci slot (it doesnt have to be the desktop pci, make some abomination but standardize it). Imagine this, every component is standardized. This would change everything.

>>105814018
too big

>>105813425
I would pay a shit ton for a framework that was built like a t61. The only reason I haven't gotten one already is because thin laptops like that never seem to stand up to abuse.

>>105814018
>Why cant i buy a laptop motherboard of standard dimensions, with a socket that i can populate with a standard cpu for that socket

yes, it should be left for buyers to figure out if they are goofing or not

>put in a 55W TDP CPU
>overheats
>it was your own fault

meanvile, 35W TDP CPU would have worked

then there would be two laptop chassis standards as well, namely thin and thick

thick is meant to house a taller CPU cooler thus enabling 55 watts

https://www.tpart.net/about-x210ai/
the successor is shoving new motherboard inside

>>105813425
pajeetwork, overpriced greenwashing scam

>>105813425
Framework is a jeet scam laptop. Its got horrible build quality and the price for the specs is a joke. If I'm going to over pay I'll just get a macbook

>>105814328
buy a macbook

>>105814430
no amd64 cpu is built to be efficient anyways, if you want think, buy a macbook

If framework made any 4:3 laptop I would buy it instantly but not because it’s a framework, solely because it’s 4:3.
Literally anyone if they put out a reasonably built 4:3 machine I’d buy it regardless of asking price.

any modern thinkpads that are good?

>>105813314 (OP)
it would be the MNT reform I think
Framework is great for upgrade but you still end up with a 2015 macbook clone

>>105815984
overpriced ARM garbage

>>105813314 (OP)
thinkpads are NOT "repairable", at least not more than any other equivalent business class laptop.

that said, HP Elitebooks are pretty okay in my experience.

>>105814018
there's xxxtra small ATX sizes and you can just buy an overpowered RasbperryPI (which itself has a lot of standard attachments on top of using standard interfaces like USB and SD) but the all in one nature of a laptop means that stuff is going to be miniaturized and puzzle piece fit to keep stuff small.

but again if you don't care about looking like a fucking nerd you can get a mini-atx or even nuc type computer and a very small display to bolt to it, maybe outright go full ShadowRun LARPer and get a vr headset and gesture keyboard

there will never be a good laptop ever again

>>105816066
it's only arguable if there was ever a good laptop at all

>>105813433
It's cheaper than an equivalent MacBook/Thinkpad/XPS if you get the KIY version w/o Windows and buy RAM and SSD elsewhere—at least here in Europe.

>>105816111
Thinkpad T480 was the last great laptop

>>105816182
we have a variety of Thinkpads where I work, including 480s, and they are all the same as any other crappy business class laptop. /g/ consoomers need to fuck off with this memery

>>105816137
Would love to get my hands on that Kill It Yourself edition.

>>105814357
Imagine all the fucking gunk that came out with the beer Jesus fucking Christ

>>105816239
I'm using one right now
>memory
It's a 2018 laptop, not an ancient relic
It has every good thinkpad feature (e.g. dual hot swappable battery), and is upgradable

>>105815984
>>105816025
MNT Reform Next concept is good but it has many issues. CPU is unter tochpad and the heatsink is the bottom case. It will fry your pp, unless you troon out like MNT CEO. No Full size SD slot - only microSD and microSDexpress slots. No 2280 m.2 nvme - only 2240 slot which limits ssd choice. Wifi is over USB 2.0 and supports only single stream 1x1 wifi 5 ac. ix ethernet sounds cool but who actually uses it??

Refom Classic has heatsink inside the case without airflow lol. Some quality issues such as the heatsink being to thick and customers having to fix it by 3d printing spacers between bottom plate and case lol.

Reform Pocket uses a PCB as heatsink and throttles under any load. Lolol

Oh and all mnt laptop have only 4h battery lol

if your laptop can't do this then it's complete dogshit

>>105813495
Yeah but ibm/lenovo made millions of thinkpads which is why they're so cheap used

>>105814018
the PC standard started as third party clones of one company's product, so all you have to do is start producing parts compatible with some existing laptop case

>>105813314 (OP)
It's over. There will never be a Thinkpad Sucessor. Laptops are consumerist trash just like everything else. If you want to DIY, you're going to have to "build your own laptop" that will be completely proprietary to your own specifications. Honestly, you'd be better off learning some soldering, 3D printing, and getting scrap laptop parts and trying to make it work all together.

>>105816639
laptops that can do this has old hardware or barely usable hardware that will be unusable or ultra slow in the next 5y

>>105817181
Ah yes, the Thinkpad, noted indie product made with love and care for a limited market.

>>105816639
useless feature because
>implying you have spare batteries

>>105816580
>luv me hot swappable batteries
>luv me upgradable RAM
>ate solder
Simple as.

>>105817618
>implying you have spare batteries
I have three batteries for my T480 (internal 24, external 24, and external 72.)

>>105816639
I'm sure that my 20 years old HP laptop has it but why would I want to use that in 2025?

>>105813314 (OP)
I'd argue Framework if they at the very least TRIED to not overcharge for it, AND had the option of using a non-chiclet keyboard. it would literally be a spiritual successor to the thinkpad in that case

>>105817949
>if they at the very least TRIED to not overcharge for it
But IBM sold its Thinkpad brand to lenovo BECAUSE they charge $1000 more than Dell and HP counterpart.

>>105813425
>get sent chassis
>came from the factory bent in three places
Epic sturdiness.

>>105815788
kill yourself iSheep

>>105813314 (OP)
laptops are completely worthless until you can get one with an e-ink display
>but using it indoors
that's what desktop PC's are for

>>105817609
No. Industry standards.
Modern laptops are made to appeal to women.

>>105817856
If it was possible 20 years ago why isn't it possible now?

>>105816268
Thinkfags love dick cheese. I remember on a previous thread someone came on his. Tbf I don’t blame him, they are quite sexy.

t. A fag that owns a T460 and a T480

>>105813314 (OP)
I was hyped up about the balthazar project, but somehow they went completely silent at the beginning of this year. I was to become the perfect laptop for freetards.

>>105819367
planned obsolescence

>>105813314 (OP)
i really wish the panasonic toughbooks and laptops similar were cheap

>>105818755
>Modern laptops are made to appeal to women.
No, they're meant to be portable and slim.

>>105813433
Pretty sure the now-worshiped Thinkpads weren't cheap when they were brand new business laptops either.

ARM Macbooks