How did they fuck up so badly? I can't think of a single reason to buy any Apple product. Maybe an iPad for Procreate I guess. But everything else... so pointless.

>>105813348 (OP)
Tim Apple has captured something like 90% of the US smartphone market and $APPL make $100 billion in profit per year. And lets not forget their M-series ARM CPU. They literally can't stop winning.

>>105813348 (OP)
>cuts support for older intel macs effectively gutting the ebay subhuman grifters who were still asking for $300 for a mac mini from 2015
Based.

>>105813377
>does the fingers from the wrong direction
I'm going to rape this old man

>>105813348 (OP)
>How did they fuck up so badly?
is this just a no-coder/unemployed meme? Their products used to be useless unless you had some specific use like photoshop or music recording. Now they're actually the best option. How is going from garbage to the best "fucking up"? Because you don't like some dumb visual thing or because apple intelligence sucks?

>>105813674
Linux is just as good if your use case is programming and you don't mind a little jank.

>>105813674
Sure, macOS might be a little nicer to use overall, but a little nicer to use doesn't quite cut it when it still lacks software. It's shit for gamers and completely useless for engineers. You can ultimately get a cheaper computer that can give you the same results as a Mac AND play games AND works for your engineering job.

With that being said, if you do not give a shit about gaming and do not work as an engineer and do not care about prices, then yes, I admit, a Mac is pretty good.

>>105813377
> 90%
stop lying, ramashit.

>>105813674
> be apple
> has less than 7% market share for computers
> makes up less than 30% of its profits
embarrassing.
> how
because nobody is interested in their shit. never were. macs have always sold poorly.

>>105813674
If this was 2008 I would have called you a macfag shill but you're actually right and it's confusing to me.

>>105813837
Eh, it's just their hardware that's gotten great.

>>105813864
> gotten great
never happened. if that were even close to being true they'd have a marketshare greater than 7%. seems that no matter how much apple pay marketing pajeets or their own fanbois shill trash, that trash isn't selling.

If you want to have sex you pretty much need an iPhone. You can get way with base model or older gen if you have good genetics, but otherwise its latest pro max.

>>105813894
>he thinks having good hardware would be enough to make Apple sell more
What it would actually take is Windows fucking up cataclysmically. It doesn't matter how good Apple shit gets when it's the more expensive option and everyone is already used to Windows. People don't like change. Same reason Linux will never be popular.

If Windows ever gets dethroned, it'll be by making itself unusable. (How?) Competitors can improve as much as they want, it doesn't matter.

>>105813348 (OP)
Apple is far ahead in one department though. Google has never been able to compete. Also, Android still sucks compared to iOS.

>>105813761
Literally the only thing that Macs are bad for is SOME gaming. Most games work fine with Whisky, or at any rate, no worse than Linux. Many games have native Mac ports, if you play newer Paradox games for example, they're all on MacOS.

Some newer 32 bit games have problems due to emulation difficulty, but Windows 11 ARM has extremely fast 32 bit emulation even on Apple Silicon hardware (i.e. if you run it in a VM on a Mac) so this obviously isn't an unsolvable problem and MacOS may eventually get that kind of emulation too.

They're excellent game dev machines, anyways. You get CLion and Apple Clang, you've got all the Adobe software, you have all the Steinberg software or Reaper if that's more your style, everything you need for game dev is on Mac and you don't have to deal with jeetdows or troonix jank except when testing.

>>105813377
Tim always looks so unhealthy
I thought semen was full of protein?

>>105814166
When I say "engineering" I mean stuff like civil and mchanical engineering. This stuff is only native to Windows, and chugs and crashes even there. Gaming emulation has gotten pretty optimized for Mac and will only improve, to the point that I can envision a future where a Mac can play whatever a Windows can if autists keep at it, but shit like Solidworks will crash your PC multiple times a day. I don't even want to imagine trying to emulate that shit. This is the 1 (one) area in which I have no clue how Apple could enter.

>>105814166
>>105814199
>When I say "engineering" I mean stuff like civil and mchanical engineering.
mac fucking sucks get over it
apple has been awful garbage since day 1
they made one good program and it was logic, for some bizarre reason I/O, the UI, and fx stack just werks
nothing else runs on mac
linux suffered for 30 years because of this kiked heavenly aluminum e waste

>>105813825
yeah, you're right, I mixed it up with Androids market share in India. But you knew that first hand, didn't you?

>>105814347
aren't you that street shitting paedophile that was busted posting the same cringe photos for years until you started changing the hashes? and by then it was too late because everyone knows that you shit in the street and use the hands of homeless street children as toilet paper?

>>105813348 (OP)
>How did they fuck up so badly?

>>105813922
windows fucking up won't sell hardware. anyone can download macos and run it in a virtual machine using linux or windows right now, if they wanted to. the idea of buying hardware just to run whatever operating system in current year is quite ridiculous and many people are realizing this now that more powerful PCs are in their possession that can handle a virtualized version of whatever operating system they like. anyway, windows could die tomorrow and apple's market share would remain the same.

>>105813348 (OP)
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>105813825
I doubt it's 90% but if you only look at people on $100k plus it probably is crazy high, I'd guess 75% if 57% of the general pop use them. I can't think of any other product which holds such an extreme level of dominance.

>>105813729
Linux doesn't have anything like Instruments.app

>>105813829
more than 20% in the first world countries
turdworld is irrelevant

>>105813978
google is an ad company, they want to harvest as much data as possible

>>105814769
> if we look at some wage bracket
we're not. this is an overall representation of OS usage collected by that javascript scraper site. it's not as simple as saying
> well.. i'll pull 75% out of my ass to throw at the wall. no idea where the number is from btw
maybe it is, maybe it's much lower. we don't know. this graph is a pretty decent representation of ownership (give or take fake user-agents and shit like that).

>>105814817
> b..but i'm selling 20% in some other place
lmao. it's still 30% of their profits - that's it - that's all they make from computers. even if the 20% was just bought by you, that's still fucking terrible business. not that i believe for a moment you can even afford rice for your curry lunch. the absolute state of street shitters. not only do they not know how businesses work, they don't even have a TOILET. if apple didn't have iphone or ipad, they would have went bankrupt years ago.

>>105814681
meanwhile in the real world

>>105814863
> the street shitting paedophile keeps losing

>>105814874
saaar

>>105814853
If we're being honest the most common people use android is to save money with budget phones and this doesn't really mean they want one just that they can't afford or don't want to spend the money on a high end phone.

Anyway even if it was only 57% for people who can afford one without worrying about price (which is extremely unlikely) that is still ridiculously high market share. Again I can't think of any product which comes close suggesting they are doing something very right.

>>105813348 (OP)
only poor blacks and mexicans use androids
anyone who respects themselves has an iphone

>>105813348 (OP)
I bought a MacBook Pro recently because I have both money and sex. The real question is how did YOU fuck up so badly to not have money and sex (ie. be an Apple Chad)?

>>105813348 (OP)
Apple is and always has been the Louis Vitton of electronics brands. It only makes sense if you think of it that way. Their products hold little practical virtues or value otherwise.

>>105816121
I have 3 fruit toys and 2 fruit slabs in my home and only the geriatric boomers use either.

>>105814728
buy an ad

I am seeing a burgeoning use case. Apple and iOS/MacOS seem more intent on consistent performance, cleanliness, operating efficiency. Macbooks and iPads from 10 years ago still run well. This is not the case for Windows, and it's getting worse. Microshit routinely bricks 5 year old systems with their progressive amounts of bloatload and inefficient programming, on top of the progressively uglier UI.

If Apple can stick to those core values they will have people jumping ship myself included

>>105813348 (OP)
>an ipad for procreate
Out of all the faggy uses for apple products, you picked the most worthless and faggy. You are the root of the problem.

Apple still has its ecosystem, the only reason I still have an iphone is because it easily intergrates with my ipods and apple watch, something that can't happen with Android because Android has to be compatible with a billion vendors each of which needs their own app.

>>105814987
You know the US isn't the whole world right? For the rest of the world Apple are just seen as a flex that dumb trashy people were tricked into buying so they can LARP as rich and successful meanwhile their phone is on a plan as well as their Dodge Challenger V6. Apple is simply the most successful marketing company in the world but it mostly only works on dumb yanks and mainland Chinese.

>>105817023
I'm British and it is definitely the most common phone amongst successful professionals here, the difference is just most pronounced in USA cause the salaries after tax are so high. It's only developing countries like those in Africa or India where this doesn't hold true.

No one sees it as a flex it's only on 4chan where there is a huge amount of losers people even think this. People use them cause the experience is great and they just work (tm)

>>105817023
iOS rules in Japan too.

>>105817023
literally no one in the US beyond some memes thinks it's a flex, how poor do you have to be to care what phone someone has lmao, where I live people don't even care about cars, it's your house, boat and what vacations you can afford that are the status symbols

>>105818653
Android user coping.

I hate Apple but I like that their devices generally aren't ad-ridden like most non-flagship androids. If their ecosystem wasn't so locked down I would consider their shit

>>105816933
>Macbooks and iPads from 10 years ago still run well. This is not the case for Windows

It's literally the opposite. 10 year old Macs are deprecated by Apple. Meanwhile you can install Windows on a 20 year old PC and still get updates.

>>105818939
>Meanwhile you can install Windows on a 20 year old PC and still get updates.
>he doesn't know

yeah try installing WIndows 11 on a 20 year old PC and see how that works and before you say to just use 10, Windows 10 expires in October this year

>>105813348 (OP)
Now that gaming works on linux there's even less of a reason to use mac. I have everything I need with no restriction and my hardware mogs yours. I'm not some art faggot making less than 30k a year sucking dicks because his career didn't pop off.

>>105819016
>Windows 10 expires in October this year

Nope. The regular version expires in 2028, the LTSC version expires in 2032.

>try installing WIndows 11 on a 20 year old PC

The oldest CPU supported by Windows 11 (LTSC) is from 2007. And W11 LTSC is supported until 2034.


Look I'm not a MS shill, W11 is actually disgusting. But long term support is the one advantage that Windows has over every other OS.

>>105813348 (OP)
Best marketing and captured the low class who want to show off and women's market who are the biggest consoomers.

>>105819044
Emulation autists are working hard for Mac too. Give it a few years. You have more of a point for hardware, though. Shit is crazy expensive, especially storage. You can get something that will run games way better for notably cheaper than a powerful Mac.

>>105816973
It's for attracting pussy. You wouldn't get it.

>>105814166
>Literally the only thing that Macs are bad for is SOME gaming.
It's bad for anything that requires a lot of GPU power, because Macs don't have PCIe slots anymore.
Also, if you need a lot of storage or RAM they are extremely expensive.
Some niche use cases are also worse on Macs, but that goes without saying, since you don't have choice there in terms of hardware.

But for most things that people do, current M-chip Macs are pretty damn good.
macOS also doesn't have nearly as much retarded shit in it as modern Windows.

>>105819176
Yeah, boipussy. At starbucks, with your iFaggot device.

>>105813894
Apple is a trillion dollar company, they're selling fine. Why are you so angry?

>>105820049
Artfaggotry is a powerful tool for attracting women, if you have the balls to talk with them. Like I said, you wouldn't get it.

mac users in tech are not right in the head. a "professor" who uses an ipad (for displaying courses kek) and an m2 macbook screamed at me for daring to assume that 1=true and 0=false

>>105820049
Gays are unironically much less shallow than the kind of foid who would reject you for not having an Apple product.