Got my brother a pc with a 4060 and he complains about low framerate since we spent so much on a computer. He puts all the graphics to ultra and plays God of war Ragnarok, red dead redemption 2 and spiderman 2.

I tried telling him not to put them on ultra but didn't convince him. Maybe he'd be a happier man if we just invested in a ps5. I always thought pc was the best choice because of it being able to do more and play more games. But I made a mistake.

>>105815901 (OP)
nice blog

what resolution is he playing at?

>>105815970
1440p, sometimes upscaled sometimes not. In rdr2 the best option is native with dlaa

>>105815901 (OP)
>>105815999
clueless people should not be trying to save money buying PCs.

>>105815901 (OP)
>Buys a budget card
>expects to play everything 1440p ultra

Maybe the problem isn't pc gaming?

at the end of the day, aside from the fact that he uses wrong settings he's still getting frame stability and better 1% lows from a dedicated video card as compared to a ps5... PC gaming is the only way to play video games properly, consoles are jokes, especially when you realize that the average TV often adds 100 ms of end-to-end latency to the chain for no good reason as well lol.

>>105815901 (OP)
what are the rest of the computer specs

I thought it was my 4080 that was shit turns out modern games just run like shit for everyone because their not optimised (mostly because of forced TAA and shit and using Unreal engine)

>>105817302
Ryzen 5800x
32g ram ddr4
Platinum psu
Some full atx motherboard

>>105817809
Games were never optimized. Try playing Skyrim or stalker with a pc of that time for example.

>>105817817
keep games at low or medium textures to prevent vram filling up, make sure CPU and GPU temps are normal and make sure XMP is on

>>105815901 (OP)
Games don't look any better compared to 10 years ago, so I don't blame your brother one bit for expecting his games to actually make use of that fucking 4060. There is no excuse for the game you pictured to run at less than 400FPS on a 4060 at 4K; the amount of compute on that thing is overkill for the PS4 graphics pictured.

>>105817843
Doesnt work. Lowering texture quality in most games still force highest size to load then mips them causing additional memory with no performance benefit its so stupid.

>>105817886
this is a specific issue to you then as this does not affect me

Turn on DLSS, retard.

>>105817968
looks even worse

>>105817911
stop pretending

>>105815901 (OP)
>set to medium
>Arr rook same
Use case for ultra setting?

>>105817999
I use Radeon so these geforce problems do not affect me

>>105818067
You just said you had a 4060 anon

>>105818106
no I said this issue does not affect me

>>105815901 (OP)
>4060
8GB?

>>105817302
The computer is imaginary, the point is implying that a PS5 is a better deal. OP is trying to placate his buyer's remorse.

>>105817886
Usually the game engine will load the potato texture first and then slowly fate to the highest one.
Your scenario literally couldn't exist.

>>105818135
>>105818119
>>105818141
Fuck off my thread dont post here again

>>105817992
Until we move from UE5 that is objectively false, I just use Quality or DLAA to remove the forced AA that looks like shit because of it

>>105818163
I don't have anything else to do.

>>105818163
stop coping over your ps5 purchase

>>105818163
>butt hurt moron thinks he has the right to tell other people what to do!

>>105817817
>Ryzen 5800x
I have it and it heats like shit even underclocked undervolted.
Never again.

>>105815901 (OP)
I have to inform you that many people try to pose as me (the OP). Next time it would be useful if I used a nickname to avoid confusion

>>105815901 (OP)
>Got my brother a pc with a 4060
Do you hate your brother? I got mine a 3090 with a shim mod.

>>105818543
Thank you for your understanding. Why on earth would I not spend 2000 for a damn gpu instead of 300. What was I thinking! What an absolute fool! It's not that I don't have such money...

>>105815901 (OP)
>God of war Ragnarok, red dead redemption 2 and spiderman 2.
Before complaining about graphics he should start playing games that aren't fucking boring

sorry to hear that your brother is retarded

>>105815901 (OP)
Zoomers will never turn down the settings they have it in their heads every game should run at 4K Ultra 100+ FPS on whatever shitass hardware they buy then complain when it doesn't. The ones that know they can't then run everything on Ultra at 1440p to cope.

>>105819950
>>105820109
Do not be mean guys. I don't like the games either, but we all have different tastes.

>>105815901 (OP)
4070 is the bottom tier nvidia card worth buying. anything under that you'd might as well get used, becuse the value is horrendous

>>105820547
You're right. I don't really notice graphical degradation in medium or high compared to ultra, or sometimes I do. I find the custom settings from communities to be the best

>>105817828
>>Games were never optimized.
finally someone remembers

>>105815901 (OP)
He's in lala land
Ultra 1440p in ray traced up the ass games is not happening in a billion years on a 4060 8GB.
I doubt you have the CPU to drive it either.

For 1440p a 5070 is minimum. Maybe a 9060XT will be pretty decent too. And you'll still probably need upscaling if you demand everything be Ultra

>>105817828
Half-Life 2 ran well, CoD4 ran well, not to mention console devs were doing INSANE optimizations. Dino Crisis was on PS1 but looks like an early PS2 game.

>>105820787
It's just prerendered environments.
It's not to hard to render nothing but a single model in real time.

>>105820810
>It's just prerendered environments
You're thinking of Resident Evil. Dino Crisis was fully 3D.

>>105820828
>>105820810

>>105820574
It's not the games but running them at ultra on a mid-range card.

>>105815901 (OP)
>I tried telling him not to put them on ultra but didn't convince him
Your brother is a tard

>>105822534
>mid-range card.
it's bottom tier even to nvidia, they call it a 1080p card

>buy nvidia GPU
>get disappointment
Tale as old as time.

>>105822534
>It's not the games
The thing is, it is the game. Modern games pack so much in the menus that aren't available on console or simulated.
You pay twice for the system that can run on my 4k samsung OLED and look better for a PC that struggles to do the same on the TA my brother bought me at goodwill.
The human eye can only see 20 fps and 720p :v)

Return (or sell the 4060) and get something with an acceptable amount of VRAM (not 8GB). Seriously the difference between 8GB/16GB on modern games is ridiculous especially if he insists on running ultra 1440p

>>105822844
What the hell happened? In 2008 you could game at 1080p with 512MB of VRAM.

>>105822736
Nvidia doesn't make low end GPUs any more because those are built into CPUs now. xx60 is mid-range. I think the last truly low end GPU from Nvidia was the 710.

>>105823055
>What the hell happened?
Graphicsfaggots.
Graphicsfaggots no longer chained to console limitations.
Consoles switched designs and graphicsfaggots like Cerny got involved.
Resolutions increased (a bit).

On some level, it's an intersection of issues. Windows bloat (not actually unique to windows, more of a DE bloat problem) scaling with resolution, less efficient side applications that you have running in parallel with garbage electron & CEF implementations. Higher framerates and console games in the 7th gen were rarely running above 720p with only a few reaching 1080p.
As technology progressed everything just got offloaded onto scaling and here you are, right at the centre of the junction in an age where since 2016-2018 progress on generation GPU leaps has stalled to the point we're in a continual pump 'n' shrink on TDP and Nvidia also refused to scale up VRAM (though not because they were being based but because Jensen wants platinum stitching for his next CES leather jacket).

Welcome to the new world, buddy. Same as the old world.
In 2008, you should have been calling out that 512MB for what it was. FUCKING BLOAT.

>>105823160
>progress on generation GPU leaps has stalled
I disagree. The difference in compute compared to even 5 years ago is insane. The problem is that game devs can't code for shit anymore!

>>105818465
You forgot uppercase faggot

>>105823160
You should hear the talks from Nvidia's head of DLSS. He's said graphics are still too shit because the models are hollow. He wants fully filled models will full skeletons and muscles and blood and veins and light being absorbed and reflected by them realistically and accurately.
THE GRAPHICSFAGGOTS AREN'T STOPPING
MORE IS TO COME
AI WILL DO IT ALL
MORE TAA MORE TAA MORE TAA

>>105823156
those igpus in cpus are worse than a gtx 1050.

>>105815901 (OP)
may need to explain to him that consoles don't run on "ultra" settings, those are for people with too much money or for future users with future hardware
modern games don't even look much different down to medium so just find the settings which slow things down the most and trim them back until it's running well.
it's really just a matter of choice paralysis. on a console you accept what you get because there's no options to set. i do understand someone wanting to max out a pc game, but that's not equivalent to a console and never has been

>>105826210
I totally agree with you

I've been playing RE4 with the (shit anyway) RT turned off and the REFramework DLSS mod (transformer model swapped in too) and it's nice to play a game at like 150fps with perfect visuals after experiencing the dogshit games of late
I'm not anti-RT or something but if your game can't hold 60 on a 4090 at 4K with DLSS performance then either fix your shit or fuck off
I don't know how anyone copes on a 4060 tier card

>>105817817
>32gb ram
>platinum PSU
Should have gone with 16gb and gold psu then use the extra money for better gpu.

>105817865
erm..
https://youtu.be/fmmc3vnF54c?si=bLvzPd0jDnYCO_vb&t=17015 2025
https://youtu.be/tvyS0tYMq58?si=5gcmFXxKyQKG_jVY&t=3799 2015
well actually you might just be right

>>105826485
and don't get me wrong, i do understand how he thinks. i too spend way too much time tweaking things than actually playing a game.
i don't play games much now, but back when i did, it was the same story. it's hard to admit, but i spent more time enjoying games on a console than i did on my pc even though the pc could run games with much better performance and fidelity, because of what i said, a game on a console is simply what it is and you know you're getting what was intended, but on a pc there's always that nagging feeling that it's not running how it's supposed to be, or could be, even if you're doing 70fps on medium-high vs. a console doing 30fps on medium-low. just the fact there's a path upwards can be paralyzing. your friend may have AD(H)D

>>105816423
>better frame stability and 1% lows than a ps5

Objectively flase, Dead Space has unavoidable traversal stutters on PC regardless of your set up

To be fair, the 4060 is a straight up scam. Nvidia has been ripping off their customers hard since the RTX line started, first it was the 20 series that couldn’t actually do raytracing, then it was the 30 series they intentionally understocked to inflate prices, then it was the 40 series where they pumped prices and made everything below the 90 series far weaker than they should be, and now we have the 50 series which actually have worse performance than the 40 series somehow.

Will this convince nvidia retards to stop buying e-waste? I doubt it, but it is convincing people to stop buying the latest RTX paperweight, and that’s going to kill nvidia in the long run.

>>105815901 (OP)
the 4060 would be the problem. Replace it with a 9070xt.

>>105815901 (OP)
good thread but nothing beats the classics

>>105826210
Yes. You get essentially the same experience on high. Ultra is for people willing to buy a top end card or for older games.

>>105827980
ah, Today, 01:59 AM, good times.
still though, it's funny how everyone in the know just looks at that single "2" and just knows