Ever since the launch of ChatGPT we have seen a consistent and rapid drop on /g/ users that isn't consistent with the usage of the rest of 4chan.

It's clear that a lot of users don't feel the need to post in these threads anymore as the IT job prospects evaporate and everyone realizes there is no future in IT anymore.

This is how true death looks. Not people complaining about job loss or being smug about it. People just literally disengaging with the topic completely in the first place.

Be honest, as some of the last users of /g/ reading this post right now. Are you also affected by this? Do you write less code nowadays? Less interested in learning new tech stacks and technologies?

It's very clear that the majority of users already feel like there won't be an IT industry left in a couple of years time. How does that fact impact your /g/ usage?

>>105816697 (OP)
>It's clear that a lot of users don't feel the need to post in these threads anymore as the IT job prospects evaporate and everyone realizes there is no future in IT anymore.
if you think this shithole is related to job market and employment, you are a certified retard

>>105816697 (OP)
A good portion would also be the vaxxies dying off. A lot of /g/entlemen here took the clotshot without second considerations.

>>105816711
Look at the catalog. Half the generals and threads are about learning some language/stack/framework/toolset those are made redundant by LLM tools as young blood isn't going in IT anymore and oldfags slowly bleed away because they lost interest in essentially learning horse saddle making at the time of car revolutions.

>>105816697 (OP)
ChatGPT has completely replaced reddit for me when I needed spoonfed information on some hobbyist subject.

>>105816697 (OP)
imageboards are dying, retard, half of this board is unemployed.

>>105816697 (OP)
Damn OP nice retardated and irrelevant blogpost but the website overall was on a down spiral, this is why they removed the unique IP counter as it was a simple objective way to quantify the death spiral.
Dog shit moderation, mental health of addicted neets not getting better with time, people growing up and out of this addiction are the main reasons.

Where would new users come from? All the youth is in wall gardens and they wouldn't care about 4chan either way due its reputation.

>>105816697 (OP)
I stopped coding and i hate tech now. Fuck silicone valley kikes, fucking kike bankers.

>>105816714
>>105816756
>>105816765
Certifiably untrue. Look at /v/ videogames for example. They have a consistent userbase over the same time period.

It's specifically /g/ that is dying. /g/ in 2025 is merely 20% of what it used to be in late 2022.

It's just that IT is dying. IT bootcamp programs are closing down due to lack of interest. Universities see an all time low in new entrants. Tech youtubers also see a decline in viewership, even the ones that aren't directly about software.

People are moving away from IT in general seeing it as a dying field.

>>105816724
nigga, I work as a programmer for almost 10 years now and visit 4chan since 2007. it never came to my mind to come to this place to do anything but shitposting

>>105816794
who the fuck cares about video games?
anyway in raw total numbers this website has been for years 60-70% video game talks. I for one do not care about that and in absence of that 4chan is garbage and dying fast for me

>>105816794
dumb doomer, Indian perchance?c

test

>>105816697 (OP)
Because there's nothing new to discuss in tech other than programming language bait and gooning to AI. And people realized that it's stupid to rice and tinker your troonix distro, it's always going to be a fragile and broken system.

>>105816826
>gooning
That's not technology you coomer

>>105816697 (OP)
>isn't consistent with the usage of the rest of 4chan
oh really?

>>105816697 (OP)
>flushing sounds

Kekaroo!

>>105816697 (OP)
you absolute moron, people get tired of bot threads and chatpgt posts

>>105816899
this or in my case just got tired of asking questions from a bunch of no life retards claiming to be experts of technology. whenever I have a question I just ask a chatbot. I haven't made a single thread on /g/ in ages or rarely on other boards and even then only to troll.

>>105816850
Drop in /fit/ coincided with the new aesthetic trend of women liking skinny prettyboys, not that weird since most of /fit/ was obsessed with women.

>>105816860
>Total usage of 4chan dropped 20%
>Usage of /g/ dropped 80%
Explain the discrepancy?

>>105816877
/co/ had a 3 year slow rise between 2018 and 2021 on your graph only to be dropped like a brick with GenAI because art generation became a thing and people started losing interest in art. Art was hit earlier than tech, we all know that.

why do

bots always

space their posts

like this anyway

>>105816939
they were trained on reddit

>>105816939
It's because I'm an oldfag.

We always used to type like this and It's how I identify if someone is a real oldfag or not.

>>105816697 (OP)
Honestly anon, I still have a job and I’m in a specialization that has been relatively immune to the current climate we’re in (even people I know that have been laid off have found jobs pretty quickly) and I’ve largely stopped looking at /g/ because tech isn’t fun anymore
I’ve started doing martial arts again after a 10 year gap and have been focusing more on my music, both of which I objectively suck at and will never be able to make a career out of, especially at my age
Yes I know it’s cringe to be a 40-year-old white belt, no I don’t care
Meanwhile, every time I open up a code editor outside my 9-5 to heckin upskillerino, I stare at it blankly for half an hour then give up
This did start around the time the tech companies pushed AI, but I don’t think it’s that, because I’m fine using AI at work
I think the old guard at /g/ is just getting old and tired of tech, and there’s no new blood left because of the job market, so no one’s excited anymore
Thank you for reading my Reddit-tier blog post

>>105816697 (OP)
if they are leaving because they were replaced by AI then isn't that a good thing? It means they were probably posting really stupid shit here in the first place

>>105816960
Thank you for your post man. Yeah that seems to be it. Me myself while working in IT I also had a lot of hobby projects and some git repos with quite a bit of stars. But after LLMs started to proliferate I just feel like "what's the point". Sadly my other hobbies were art, writing and music all of which have also been hit by AI. I haven't made a single piece of art since Diffusion models came out. I try to write but the amount of times I feel like I could speed things up by feeding it to an LLM is too much for me to bother. Music somehow still feels good so I get where you're coming from.

Thank you for engaging with the thread genuinely instead of assuming bad faith on my part.

>>105816697 (OP)
I love how you conflated the demise of this pisshole and "IT" in general for your moronic, nonsensical AI scare thread. They must be running out of people if they had to hire useless garbage like you at the troll sweatshop.

Fun fact: If you call out these freaks as call center drones, they don't get a commission for that thread.

Oh vey, I hope this goy does not find our study on how to kill websites like 4chan

>>105816785
This. I literally hate technology now. And I think this is a universal mindset especially among former tech nerds.

It's probably more that people are getting answers to their questions with GPT so posting less questions here. I doubt it's because people realized there is no market for jobs. That's not how ANY 4channer thinks.

>>105816850
>>105816860
>>105816877
The most mortifying thing about these charts is that they really don't articulate how bad things really are; the most visible steady drops in activity already say a lot, but think about how much current activity is literally just fake traffic: anywhere from hundreds to even thousands of posts per DAY on multiple boards - individually - are some variant of artificial engagement:
>AIsloppa generals like DALL-e threads on multiple boards that hit image limit each time
>Horrendous samefagging on particular boards, see pic related
>Literal bots swarming the whole site that respond to certain keywords, like when /x/ noticed that even before ChatGPT was a thing there was a clear instance of a bot trained on /dbs/ posts that temporarily brigaded a /tg/ thread
>Mobilefags/VPNfags in general constantly ban evading
>Since shitposters who use the ecker seem to be able to start posting immediately even after hopping to a new IP, that means the ecker service had to validate those IPs on 4chan by waiting the 2 (formerly 15) minutes and making a post somewhere on every board; a non-insignificant amount of 4chan's activity now is probably just ecker IPs validating themselves with bot posts
And then there's just a whole host of other miscellaneous shit, like currently the Naruto daily storytime threads on /a/ have been dealing with a literal jeet that bought two 4chan Passes and for a couple days literally spammed each thread until image limit. /v/ has a guy who spends nearly 24/7 spamming the catalog with sloppa of Temmie, one of the Undertale devs. Multiple boards have constant repeat threads to farm engagement, /co/ in particular having threads that appear to be bots just digging up old posts/threads from years ago. Even a good chunk of multiple boards are just explicit image dump threads. Realistically all of these boards have lost way more traffic than the charts suggest, which is exceedingly grim.

>>105816794
You didn't disprove that imageboards are dying, you just showed that /v/ is not.
It's still not just /g/, and therefore your argument that it's about IT and AI has no basis.

>>105816931
>600k of 800k is -20%
>100k of 250k is -80%
If it's anything, the drops in /g/ is because everything is iphones and apps and zoomers don't know what a filesystem is
The AI threads are about the only cool new tech we've had in literal decades.

ai generated thread

>>105817223
This isn't limited to 4chan either. I don't use social media but even in the traditional websites I use like youtube and reddit the comments are less and less substantial. Not actually write-outs that contain information anymore. Instead they are slow throw-away jabs that might as well be artificially generated.

I don't even care if they are bots or not because they have 0 value anyway. Why does the internet feel so dead nowadays? And I don't mean bot activity. I mean lack of human activity and genuine thought.

15 years ago it felt like the average person on 4chan had an actual brain and something to say. Where did these people go? Everything online is complete garbage now.

>>105816927
came here to post this

also 4chan posters across the board aren't fun to talk to. So if an LLM answers your questions the only reason to come here is to troll, so in the end its all trolls

>>105817281
ai generated post

>>105816958
>moot reddit spacing
that explains a lot

>>105817223
>Horrendous samefagging on particular boards
/vt/ is particularly guilty of this

>>105817287
>Why does the internet feel so dead nowadays?
maybe we just ran out of things to talk about?

seems more like it's due to waning interest in ai

Can't help but wonder why I'm still here. Perhaps it's all I deserve.

>>105816697 (OP)
we're returning to pre-covid market
normies must go

>>105816697 (OP)

good, the low-quality people are being filtered out. less is more

>>105816697 (OP)
the majority of "people" here straight up lie in your face to shill something and when confronted:
>hahah, yes, i lie, what are you gonna do about that?

>>105816697 (OP)
>line must go up forever
what are we, shareholders?!
who gives a fuck, just post good content and ignore the shitters
source: I said the nigger word

>>105817223
None of this is new.
What you're describing as "artificial engagement" has been a part of board culture long before you knew how to use internet.

There is no practical difference between, say, Rozen Maiden threads and DALL-e threads in terms of pure engagement with this site.

>>105817567
That's a consequence of the tone here though.

>>105817223
The samefagging and schizo behavior is /vg/ levels in the /sdg/ /ldg/ threads. Those threads have a dedicated schizo that basically caused another thread to be created. These people are the biggest killer of smaller boards and threads in general and the mods take FOREVER to enforce proper banning of these retards. It took 3 fucking years of the maid schizo spamming and stealing people's work on multiple boards for him to finally be banned on sight.

>>105817791
not at all, it wasn't like this years ago.

It is a consequence of Covid bullshit and the following war bullshit, confidentally lying got completely normalized.
It's also what AI dies when it hallucinates.
Everywhere you go, some lies in your face, he knows that you know that he lies, but lies anyway.

>>105817851
>not at all, it wasn't like this years ago.
Mate, it's been like this since before 2020. The second someone shows that he doesn't know everything about something he is relentlessly shamed and bullied into the ground by small-ego retards who have no other way of feeling good about themselves which caused the people here to rather make shit up instead of admitting because the dogpiling here is on another level.

It used to be slight banter when someone wasn't the most knowledgeable, the occasional n word here, but for some reason it has become fashionable to dunk on people as if it is being to broadcast to the whole universes BullyTV.

>>105817882
what has this to do with the flood of liars?

If they would be bullied, they wouldn't pe lying 247

>>105816697 (OP)
what is there to post about anymore? it's all just culture war bullshit left and right, nobody here wants honest discussion. I just check in every now and then in case there's an interesting thread and there barely ever is

>>105816697 (OP)
this is the technology board, not the employed IT watercooler hangout, the entire sector can disappear and this board would continue like >>>/vr/

We need a better moderated imageboard, and by that I mean one where bot posts and intentional government disruption and psyops are deleted.

>>105818062
Won't happen. Threeletters spam every imageboard that doesn't bend the knee with spoilt milk topped bread.

>no webp support
>no av1 support
>no multi-image upload support

4chan is literally becoming the fax machine of the internet except you can say the nigger word here.

Good I feel like having console wars, not convincing retards my opinions are better.

>>105816697 (OP)
Gotta say that the ever increasing amount of ritualposters and schizos kinda turns me off from engaging with this board.
I'd say /g/ nowadays loses directly to most moderated altchans with a sliver of a population in themes related to programming, hardware, GNU/Linux, tech, etc. This board is now for mindless consumption and red vs green vs blue consolewar-like faggotry.

>>105817223
>like when /x/ noticed that even before ChatGPT was a thing there was a clear instance of a bot trained on /dbs/ posts that temporarily brigaded a /tg/ thread
Links?

>>105817851
>and the following war bullshit
Yes, that social media flood of people posting the most retarded lies possible, was the end.
Sanctions will destroy Russia, it will collapse.
The ghost of kyiv shot down 50 planes.
The counteroffensive will take Crimea.
They posted this 100% convinced, it never happened, and eventually all those shills got thrown into a delusion where they posted confident lies. And that behavior is nowadays dominating, no matter the topic.

They threw billions into those social media campaigns, that were about normalizing lying and propaganda, and this is the fallout.

discord/slack happened

>>105816877
/co/ used to be a forefront of culture war and propaganda. They were literally a tumblr outpost on 4chan and if you post a stonetoss comic on the comic board, you get banned.
Once you realize its all about stupid propaganda, it all makes much more sense.
How convenient that the poured billions into building confidentally-lying chatbots just after covid when reving for war.... wow... it's all so simple...

>>105816697 (OP)
>slower board, threads live longer
>total industryfag exodus
great news
now we just need gookmoot to make /ai/ and my board will finally be saved

>>105819243
It didn't happen in late 2022 and neither was that the peak of it. Discord peak in popularity was arguably during the covid lockdowns. There's no reason for posters to only go rapidly down after 2022.

>>105819402
retard.

>>105819406
True, the other anon was wrong at discord peaking during covid.
Discord on 4chan peaked far before that. Discord is completely innocent in this one.

>>105817529
The bots and shit golems are worse.
>>10581887
>>105818870
4chan barley has the resources to keep old servers running. I think it was 'Ape who said it's hard for 4chan to get funds for anything. Think about what Null goes through to keep Kiwi Farms up. 4chan is just as infamous and the only reason no one has tried "drop 4chan" is because troon/glow-in-the-darks/NGOs/big tech can run gay ops here.

We are a counter/sub culture a lot of powerful people want to go a way.
>>105819024
I know a good alt chan for tech but it's not the same without the freedom to use slurs and hate on jeets.

>>105816697 (OP)
>/g/ & IT are dying
>consistent and rapid drop on /g/ users
you are retarded.
have you noticed the effect of moderation in this board?
the mods themselves post the same flamebait threads (anti-linux, pro-apple, ...) over and over again.
starting a thread to discuss actual technology gets you banned and your thread deleted. meanwhile, blatant /pol/tard threads and the flamebait ones mentioned above don't get banned.

also what >>105817567 >>105817932 said. this whole website was taken over by low IQ stomfront and r/the_donald that can't have a basic logic, facts based discussion. this is supposed to be a TECH boards. how the fuck do these retards even survive? FFS

>>105816927
good. tech support threads are against the rules (except the dedicated generals)

>>105819713
Servers are cheaper if you kick out glowfags.
If you go ballistic against shill narratives, you would cut the activity by half, easily.

And that drop in activity would be a 100% improvement. While the activity drop we witness now, is based on actual anons already having left, or simply posting less, and the shilling slowly turning down, leaving noone behind.
As seen on /k/: >>105819221
Activity dropped to not even half of what it had before the shill invasion.
And shills never leave you completely, they make sure to keep a sizable amount behind, to ensure that it can never recover.

The main mistake, is believing that you have to filter out paid shills and bots specifically.
That is a futile endeavour.
There are enough retards amplifying shills for free, because they fell for it.
Instead you have to straight up ban narratives that you know in fact to get shilled by agencies.

DARPA investment into social media campaigning for Rust?
Congrats, now everybody advocating for Rust without a solid argumentation - or by lying - gets banned!
Its that easy!

>>105819758
>MUH RED VS BLUE, MUH DRUMPF, PLEASE TALK SBOUT RED VS BLUE
kill yourself
Imagine replying to a post about shills and bots and you immediately get an aneurysma demanding that we talk about red vs. blue

>>105816714
COVID infection brain damage self-owns are always fun to spot in the wild. Good luck with the pancreatic cancer in a few years anon.

>>105819956
>t.has never made a single thread discussing anything of value
I'm not american, retard. but any discussion here about any topic gets derailed in minutes, either by shills or by retarded NPCs who can't do anything but repeat the line their beloved leaders hammered into their brains.

2 more weeks

>>105819858
>Servers are cheaper if you kick out glowfags.
>If you go ballistic against shill narratives, you would cut the activity by half, easily.
The resources that would take are needed to mostly stop Captain Precard and his pizza posting.

>dude making an imageboard would be easy and cheap and it would be amazing and perfect and better than 4chud
>...but i won't do that because.... i just won't okay!!!!
alternatively
>muh sekrit klub
every thread.

>>105819858
>DARPA investment into social media campaigning for Rust?
>Congrats, now everybody advocating for Rust without a solid argumentation - or by lying - gets banned!
>Its that easy!
Stupidly easy to exploit. If they want to shutdown any discussion about a topic, they just have to announce an investment into a social media campaign (whether it exists or not) and you'll be doing their work for them whether you realize it or not.

>>105819024
What’s a good /g/ altchan?

I visit 4chan pretty infrequently nowadays. Just realized some years ago that it's not really healthy to engage on daily basis with autistics basement dwellers, bots and trolls. Besides, the content is pretty much the same shit here, year after year and I don't think it's very relevant to my interests at this point of my life. That could be a reason. Millenials growing out of 4chan. I don't think there's too many zoomers here or at least in the same capacity.

Current Captcha makes posting pretty fucking irritating too.

>>105818156
This is why the number one most critical thing the Internet needs right now is effective antispam. If you have an idea, roll it out. There is nothing more important.

>>105820565
All online activity required to be tied to biometric-backed and government issued digital ID. That way you only need to ban a troublemaker once. Proxies rendered useless.

>>105820565
Short of AI-anti-spam, there's nothing I could come up with.
Besides, if you successfully block their shit, they will still hit you with a DDoS or get you with safe harbor laws because you are "censoring" the site by not even letting them post it.

It's a "Heads, they win; Tails, you lose!" situation.

>>105820517
>Millenials growing out of 4chan.
i wish. normalfags come back here to gloat 24/7. if this truly was still a site of nothing but outcasts and fuckups then it wouldn't be anywhere near as insufferable. every other post nowadays is
>my gf
>my wife
>my kid(s)
>my family
>my ex
like i give a fuck.

>>105820280
We aren't here to change the world, but to make an imageboard that is usable.
Glowfags aren't going to change all their social media campaigns because of how one imageboard would ban it. If one narrative is officially shilled with billions of glowfag budget, and we know about it, it shouldn't be allowed here.

But rapeape is a literal zogbot, living on Veteran bucks. Of course we allow every single shill narrative here, because its for the good cause and we have to support our troops! Trust the plan, globohomo is good for all of us!

>>105820645
This place wasn't always some den for losers. At the start 4chan was mostly for nerdy but intelligent white teenagers. We eventually grew up. It's insane that you think it's "gloating" when the average millennial talks about normal things like the family they have and how it impacts them.

Again, this place wasn't for losers and outcasts, that's what it slowly became over time. As an oldfag I remember "virgin" or "autist" being the go-to insults on early 4chan. Not because they were normalfags but because they at least aspired to become successful in the long run. Most of us succeeded (it's not a big accomplishment to have a wife and kids unlike the absolute tripe shit you read on 4chan daily)

>>105820683
>As an oldfag
cringe

>>105820645
>if this truly was still a site of nothing but outcasts and fuckups
That's not possible. You can't have a community of grown-ass losers like it's some teen nerd school club. You just really don't want to be with people like you anymore, it's embarassing. You either grow out of it or stay alone forever.

>>105820683
All the oldfags are still here and being miserable while writing about how this is a MUH ANIMU board.
Same with somethingawful btw. the forum oldfags originated from. Somethingawful still exists and is full with the absolute bottom of the barrel oldfags, most of which who trooned out.
(the word troon exist to describe a trans-goon)

>>105820683
>it's not a big accomplishment to have a wife and kids
it clearly fucking is else you absolutely fucking insufferable fuckwads wouldn't be bringing it up at every fucking opportunity regardless of the topic at hand site wide. fuck you. i do not want to read your fucking blog about shit i've been purposefully trying to avoid on the internet my entire goddamn life i do not care. don't you have family and friends to vent about such pointless normalfag drivel? site would improve massively if all sex havers and normalfags got the fuck out and made their own space to blog about their first world mundane problems and opinions. oh wait that's every other social media and most of the internet that you should go the fuck back to and stay there.

>>105820683
>it's not a big accomplishment to have a wife and kids
Honestly, I think it is assuming you have a healthy relationship with them all and this doesn't end in divorce. All the stats show that marriage is completely collapsing as an institution. Maybe like 50% of millennials are married right now? That's really low. If you managed to find the right one, good on you brother.

>>105820740
There is no such thing as oldfags.

>>105820731
>You can't have a community of grown-ass losers like it's some teen nerd school club.
probably because normalfags have to infest every last inch of the internet and seethe endlessly about people who don't conform to their ideals and opinions.

>>105816794
most the traffic on busy boards are shills/bots/paid to post.
>how do they bypass the captcha
they have a pass. which means that its profitable to shitpost for them

>>105816697 (OP)
its just spam driving out people. Moderation won't do shit and people are just tired.

>>105817287
college was over and all of them became the braindead posters you see nowadays, no one reads books, thinks anymore (since they are independent adults) and so on, their brain roots away

>>105817287
>15 years ago it felt like the average person on 4chan had an actual brain and something to say. Where did these people go? Everything online is complete garbage now.
you got old and are just seething at kids. 15 years ago most of 4chan was very much still shitposting, memes, and porn. always was. only difference is shit like gamergate, the fappening, TORtanic, election tourists etc brought in hoards of normalfags that never left and now blog about their lives nonstop and post stupid fucking frogs and wojaks. main character syndrome and refusal to ever lurk.

>>105820755
Marriage is down but not because people don't have relationships anymore. Just that marriage as a concept is dying. Why the fuck would I want the government involved in my personal relationship and "formalize" it so other people can see it? Marriage is expensive as fuck and a waste of resources with almost no gain for the man. I've been in a stable relationship for 13 years now. We might as well be married. But on paper I'm not. Most of my millennial friends are the same. Those statistics mean nothing.

>>105821140
Why would anyone bother lurking? People have been raised to expect instant solutions and they outnumber oldfags like 3 to 1 at this point. They just have to reply to someone with "Qrd?" and wait for the spoonfeeding.

>>105821143
>Why the fuck would I want the government involved in my personal relationship and "formalize" it so other people can see it? Marriage is expensive as fuck and a waste of resources with almost no gain for the man.

Those aren't the reasons people aren't getting married anymore. It's because the culture does not believe in committing to people for the rest of their lives anymore. The concept of the family is dead. It's serial 3 year flings with some kids popping out without father figures and mass psychosis on all involved due to the toll of all of these failed relationships.

>>105816697 (OP)
>/g/ & IT are dying
Good.

>>105821231
>It's because the culture does not believe in committing to people for the rest of their lives anymore.
it's because western women are told to not settle for anything but the perfect man and to always be ready to monkey branch if your man has literally any flaws whatsoever. also that EVERY man is competing with a woman's happiness being alone (because women need men less than vice versa according to women), along with other better men who are always potentially going to scoop your woman up cause fuck it. if he's an upgrade then fuck the other beta loser. at that point the only winning move is not to play for a good majority of men who can't compete. the pressure is monumental and dropping out is more attractive.

>>105816697 (OP)
anon post hack this place is 80% pajeets, 10% chinks, 8% AI bots and the rest is maybe real anons
like do I have to stare at the same threads over and over again?
>he/she's right you know
>refute this
>let me guess you need more?
>X is worse than Y even doe Z is even better
>/pol/ thread
>porn spam
>linux/troonix
>windows thread
>protip: you can't
>humiliation ritual
>twitter/reddit screencap thread


at this point I just scroll through /lit/ (female hobby) and /fit/ (the most homosexual board with half of the catalog consisting of pictures of half naked men and other men replying and commenting on them)

>>105821349
It was like that for years before the hack.

>>105821140
>Guy who uses the phrase “main character syndrome” complaining about young people and newfags
I know what you are.

Anyways, the drop in posts across the board has been caused by these retarded captcha timers. I frequently get them twice in a row. I’m not waiting 2 minutes to post a comment and 5 to post a thread, so I simply post less.

>>105821349
>/lit/ (female hobby)
When did this happen anyway? 10 years ago reading wasn't this gender coded

>>105816877
People say 4chan was "already gone" by the early 2010s but that was my favorite time here. I miss early 2010s /a/, even though I don't care about anime anymore.

>>105821410
i'm 33 and don't post anywhere but on this fucking site. i learned the term from people using it here cause zoomers took over the site like a decade ago. or are you even older than me and consider me a proto zoomer or some shit, i never know with you types of schizo spastics who think they've got it all figured out.

>>105816697 (OP)
>/g/ and IT being connected
lmao
>>105821349
I don't really think those boards are much better in that regard, but then again i couldn't list an actually good place if i tried.

>>105821412
>10 years ago reading wasn't this gender coded
are you serious? women have been stereotyped as the more voracious readers for decades. probably since the 80's or some shit or whenever video games took off with men.

>>105821410
>>105820517
>>105820779
newfags dont know about the gay domain kek

>>105818870
>webp only 3% better than jpg
is this supposed to be impressive? fuck webp and av1
multi image uploads and sound webms/mp4s would be nice though

>>105821391
make it like decades before the hack, however that event was eye opening to me, everyone just got back to shitposting like nothing happened, bait garbage sinking topic-related discussion to page 10 as usual, because it's all pajeets and bots
>>105821412
because most entertainment is gay and is targeting women and low iq and low impules control retards, this is why everything went to shit as of lately
unless you start with the greeks that is
>>105821435
>I don't really think those boards are much better in that regard
they are not but they are also more straighforward than others when it comes to bullshit
retards and neets on /g/ can argue here until the thermic death of the universe if linux is better than windows but on /fit/ there's just way less autists that would waste their time baiting about lifts or dieting because those things have been solved a long time ago and it's not like you can reinvent the wheel every time

The whole site has been dying for a long time, it has little to do with AI and much more to do with the old internet being subsumed by nu-internet

>>105821496
I want the nu-Internet to get the fuck off my lawn.

>>105821468
you sure did post that image again. i guess this'll just devolve into a /pol/ thread now again for the millionth time. really fucking fun, you complain about people discussing the same shit verbatim over and over until the sun explodes but nobody does that better than /pol/tards. they've practically made a fucking religion out of posting their garbage copy pasted discussions all over the site for fucking years. the same threads and discussions and talking points for years and years and years and years to try to convert people to their fucking flavor of terminally online far right brainrot retardation. every fucking hobby board.

>>105821496
What is the nu internet? Scrolling IG and TikTok?

>>105821510
So we can't even point out the reasons why everything has gone to shit? All you're trying to do is shutdown the discussion, and I'm curious why.

>>105821349
I’ve been here since since 2013 and with the exception of Twitter screenshot threads it was exactly as you’re describing back then. The site’s quality has declined, though. The thing I’ve noticed is that where edginess was a sort of nihilism back then, it’s an antipathy now. The people who post here (4chan, not /g/ specifically) have ugly souls; they are drawn to the grotesque and the disgusting. None of them talk about the sort of world they would like to live in; they just talk about how much they hate the one that they *do* live in.

>>105816794
>>105817246
/v/ is more alive because /vg/ exists.
/g/ is committing suicide by being taken over by circlejerk threads, aka "generals" that by their very nature select for increasingly tiny populations of schizophrenic lifers, more and more institutionalized.

>>105821412
Book stores stopped being able to survive selling books so they turned into lifestyle stores that sell home decor, coffee table books, and Zoom book shelf books that the purchaser uses to signal that they are up to date and in accordance with the latest social consensus.

>>105821434
>i learned the term from people using it here cause zoomers took over the site like a decade ago
There’s a lot of homosexuals on this site, too. Have you started having sex with men?

>>105816697 (OP)
the internet in general is dying because of AIslop and pajeets. What's the point of using it when it's impossible to have a discussion about anything because every single corner of the internet is full of 70-IQ shitskins from Bangalore and automated ChatGPT posts?

>>105821349
>>105821391
I believe half of those are created by mods themselves or maybe autogenerated. I wish there was a way to verify this... sadly, the last 4chan hacker didn't do much research on this shit, even though he had access for a year.
the hack made it clear that jannies were monitoring generals. might as well created threads to drive traffic and keep current users active

>>105821442
I wasn’t alive in the 1980s but I’ve never heard this before. In elementary school the girls were reading more than the boys, but once I was in high school Twilight came around and sort of absolved men of the idea that women were reading anything worthwhile.

>>105821510
anon you are getting too worked up over an image that you could just ignore
it's just numbers really, can't argue with numbers, I posted it just to avoid making shit up from my ass, regardless if this is the true issue or not anyone can tell that in general the quality of discussion has dropped massively all accross the board, it doesn't matter
far right (lol) has literally nothing to do with it, what are you even talking about
>they've practically made a fucking religion out of posting their garbage copy pasted discussions all over the site for fucking years. the same threads and discussions and talking points for years and years and years and years
congratulations on figuring out how reddit/4chan/twitter works because that's exactly how they attract people, obviously the truth is that as soon as you close the 4chan tab in the browser and go touch grass suddenly pajeets, windows, whatever just quite literally disappear
>>105821559
>they just talk about how much they hate the one that they *do* live in.
talking nonsense online just takes much less effort than going outside and doing shit, most people stuck here or in other online shitholes are not actually living, they are just watching others live and they pretend to acquire knowledge and experience things through others when irl they are just a bunch of fags that know nothing outside of staring at a monitor consuming trash and posting the same memes and bait all day
but it's also not their fault entirely, zoomers are considered as the most broke generation so far, with most third places getting nuked and everything getting expensive people just don't see any reason to ever leave the house where they have a 'puter with infinite happenings, unlimited free entertainment and so on
>>105821610
didn't some fag made a video about how easy it was to bot posts and how people fell for that shit?

>>105821583
I agree with the general sentiment, but generals are so nice for finding content though. There are a few generals that exist on /g/ that don't exist anywhere else, or which are bette than anywhere else. I'm very mixed on generals.

>>105821586
Enlightening explanation. I think the gender ratio of fiction enthusiasts is closer to 1 once you factor in those who read books for free on the internet. Most physical books are overpriced rubbish that doubles as baubles and trinkets for home decor or props for instagram pics, which women flock to like gnats to a lightbulb.

>>105821463
I genuinely don’t believe it. We’ve been sacrificing the compatibility of jpg for a 3% reduction in file sizes?
>>105821468
Notable in this image is that Chinese and Indonesians tend to exist in their own social media ecosystems, whereas Indians go out of their way to post on western platforms, so the situation is likely even worse than it looks.

>>105821515
More like Facebook and Reddit. Instagram Reels are actually one of the last places you can get “old Internet” content (at least when the algorithm cooperates, which isn’t always the case).

>>105821651
Thank you for chiming in, zoomie.

>>105821621
>didn't some fag made a video about how easy it was to bot posts and how people fell for that shit?
the gpt-4chan thing? sure, but I mean, proving that 4chan itself creates threads and even general is a whole different thing

>>105821583
>/g/ is committing suicide by being taken over by circlejerk threads, aka "generals" that by their very nature select for increasingly tiny populations of schizophrenic lifers, more and more institutionalized.
I think some generals are the ONLY places where people actually talk about technology. the rest of the board is mostly crap, and jannies and mods delete tech threads because they are not about computers or the latest consoomer product.
and you clearly fail to see that because you probably don't belong here.

>>105821583
Agree. I find mods being too overzealous to remove nominally off-topic threads while ignoring shitposts has done a lot to destroy the slower boards (/lit/ and /trv/ being the worst offenders).
>>105821621
I’ve wasted a ton of my life online but I genuinely do feel like it’s allowed me to live vicariously beyond the boundaries of my actual life.
>third place
They are fried from short form video content being too engaging. The third places are still there.

>>105821661
I’m 30. Short form video content is the closest you’ll get to the variety you used to find on Stumbleupon, 4chan, Youtube, or Reddit. The problem with the internet today is that it is produced for a mass market; SFVC is a competitive space so the algorithms haven’t gone into harvest mode (yet). It’s usually mindless, but so was most of the content I was reading online 15 years ago.

>>105821711
>It’s usually mindless, but so was most of the content I was reading online 15 years ago.
That sounds like a you problem more than anything else.

>>105817850
it's very easy for a single dedicated NEET to make a thread so unpleasant to use as to scare away a good chunk of its users that can't take the constant barrage of diversion and abuse. once again, schizos on the internet ruin everything.

>>105821751
a single dedicated NEET that moderation actively turns a blind eye to, you mean

>>105821681
>I think some generals are the ONLY places where people actually talk about technology
You are what
>>105821687
>I find mods being too overzealous to remove nominally off-topic threads while ignoring shitposts

Says you are. If your only measure of "quality" is on topic, than the extremely low quality circlejerks that make up general threads are clearly the greatest threats on 4chan.

In reality the general thread is anathema to the original idea of 4chan, which was a competitive zero sum game for pole position on page 0, rather than a binary game for existence in the catalog. And if you don't realize that you don't belong here.

>>105821789
>In reality the general thread is anathema to the original idea of 4chan, which was a competitive zero sum game for pole position on page 0, rather than a binary game for existence in the catalog.
I agree with you here, but the generals are a necessary response to the moderation style the site has adopted. Instead of individual threads competing for pole position, it's generals. It's not that different.
>If your only measure of "quality" is on topic,
He didn't say that. Some of them do have actual quality discussion, but you can't have that 24/7. I don't like the idea of people bumping generals because it needs to always exist even if there is nothing worth discussing. But I don't see how you can argue that off-topic threads are better than generals.

>>105816697 (OP)
I don't actually work in IT, I just tinker for fun and /g/ assists me in that goal. Not impacted at all, don't care

>>105821789
>You are what
check /hsg/, /csg/ or /lmg/. usually there is real technology discussion in those generals, unlike most of the crap >>105821349 talks about
anon also forgot to include
>e-celeb threads
>apple flamebait threads
>tech support threads

I used to make 2-3 posts daily.
Nowadays I barely make 1 post a week.
I don't even know why it happened. It just sort of did.
I feel like the mods getting trigger happy regarding the coomer threads might have something to do with it.
There was a time you would get better gooning content on /g/ than the actual red boards. It helped produce dopamine and keep engagement up when discussing actual technology in other threads.
But now its basically just ai generals and thats it.
Strangely, ai generals are the threads where coomer images are still posted and they seem to have high engagement still. Coincidence?

>>105821885
You posting less is a net gain for the board in all honesty.

>>105821761
yeah. though I don't know if there's much to be done about the dedicated shitposters and schizospammers while still allowing phoneposting on the site.
I don't know about the technicalities of being spammer dreck because I don't engage with such activities, but it seems awfully easy to do while having a phone sit in your lap. and I say this because a lot of the shitposters gloat about it after getting banned with one of their IPs.

>>105821910
You don't know what I used to post though.

>>105821432
Lol same. Gamergate and 2016 election seemed to be turning points. Things haven't been the same since.

>>105821711
>I'm 30
That's zoomer age

>>105816697 (OP)
Technology peaked and is completed and solved.

>>105816724
Not entirely sure what your point is, but if you're saying that AI is "killing the industry" or something akin to that then you would expect more people posting here because they can't get jobs. I've been on /g/ since 2014 and I can't say I've ever seen it as a learning forum. I've seen some CSS modification help and minor system configuration stuff but nothing really in the way of traditional programming.

This is more of a "look at my neofetch and then this twitter screenshot and then laugh at this new phone/GPU/etc announcement" forum

>>105822029
Yeah, nah. Zoomers are now in their early mid twenties.

>>105816697 (OP)
AIslop killed /g/ now we have hordes of morons replacing original posters with their retarded spam (Either LLM killing everybody, some indian shilling AI tools and so on) also, if you take a look at the catalog the most active threads are basically goonclubs (Loli chatbots or porn generators).
This only going to get worse not only for 4chan but for the little free internet left and obviously the job market.

>>105816960
how do you get "tired" of tech like it's a passing fad
tech is never going away, whether you decide to ignore it and larp as an amish farmer or not
seems like you just have burnout from work

>>105821610
>sadly, the last 4chan hacker didn't do much research on this shit
He said he didn't want to do a database dump, because of muh respecting privacy of pass fags.
I bet he is regretting this a lot now.

Remember kids: First thing to do, is ALWAYS a database dump. Don't skip it, because you think you have to act morally superior.
You can always later decide whether you want to publish it or not and you can cherry pick parts to publish long after they recovered.

>>105816697 (OP)
I think the last time I wrote code seriously was like 2 years ago, I saw this shit coming and wanted to specialize myself in something else, I haven't gotten very far yet.
And I just like /g/ because it feels like home, or maybe it's just habit.

>>105822234
>He said he didn't want to do a database dump, because of muh respecting privacy of pass fags.
AFAIR he said he didn't say that, he said he wouldn't make the DB public. the guy did dump the DB, but he kept it priv8

I come to /g/ less.
AI threads are out of control for two reasons;
1) there are too many given
2) AI is just token prediction.
If everyone understood 2 there wouldn't be a million 1s. But I digress
There is also as on all of 4chan probably a huge probably with white nationalism and racism that is just seen as OK despite global rules to the contrary.
I'm fine leaving if things don't improve.

>>105822311
AI can still be useful even if it is just token prediction. But I guess a tech illiterate wouldn't understand that.
>There is also as on all of 4chan probably a huge probably with white nationalism and racism that is just seen as OK despite global rules to the contrary.
>I'm fine leaving if things don't improve.
lol Good bye, sir! You won't be missed.

>>105822327
No it can't.
LLMs will hallucinate when it fails to find a proper resource to copy info from, because that's what token prediciton means. Next token!
This means you have to second guess every result you get from LLMs for accuracy and to confirm they are not hallucinations.
Why use the LLM at all if you have to actually do a search and confirm their info is correct? Why not just do the search first and learn for yourself?

>>105822327
I don't care if I'll be missed. You're not on the right side of history.

Quick question, is it faster to ask ChatGPT what 2+2 is, get an answer, then confirm that answer with your calculator, or just use your calcuator and skip the ChatGPT all together?
Now apply that to every ChatGPT request.

>>105822340
>Why use the LLM at all if you have to actually do a search and confirm their info is correct? Why not just do the search first and learn for yourself?
Because it's faster. Sacrificing quality and accuracy for speed has been the trend of technology adoption since the beginning of time. It's easier to ask an LLM a bunch of questions and double check yourself something you're unsure of than it is to go search up everything.

>>105822366
You have to double check everything, first of all.
Second of all, if you're only checking things you're unsure of, why do you ask ChatGPT things you're sure of?

>>105816697 (OP)
Less people and the board slows down? Woohoo retard

>>105822378
If I forget the syntax or usage of some library I use infrequently, I can ask chatgpt and either it works as well as copy-pasting from stackoverflow in a fraction of the time, or I can tell it is completely wrong, or it's close and my compiler will help me fix it.

It's still better and far faster than trying a few searches in google, opening a few links, reading through them to see if they're actually relevant or not-obsolete, and copy-pasting and then fixing anyway either to meet your needs or because something changed in a library update since the answer was posted.

>>105822407
>it works as well as copy-pasting from stackoverflow
OK
>or I can tell it is completely wrong
OK
>or it's close and my compiler will help me fix it.
This would just be "it's wrong" as well, but you worded it nicely, but OK.

I don't get how this method is faster than learning the thing you need to do one time? Because in all three scenarios you end up getting the correct answer elsewhere anyway.

>>105822431
It's not learning, it's memorization. I'm not going to waste my time memorizing every single call and every single arguement and every single usage pattern for every single language, library or framework I need to use. If you want to waste your time memorizing the order parameter arguments that you may or may not ever even need, be my guest. I'll just ask the psuedo-search engine when and if I need it.

>>105822459
Yes, memorization is part of learning any language. Verb conjugations, adjectives, sentence structure.
So you don't know any languages, you just copy paste from ChatGPT. Got it.

>>105822459
... and you'll double check your work every time, even if only by reading it and saying to self "that looks right".

>>105822468
Thanks for proving my point retard. Asking chatgpt is like consulting a dictionary. Dictionaries exist because no one sits down and memorizes every obscure word in a language, only the most common ones that they encounter ofter. Don't you fucking act like you have the English dictionary memorized.

>>105822477
Either it compiles and does what it's supposed to, or it doesn't. Do you not use an IDE? Or just you just program with one of the text editors with plugins?

>>105822496
No, because dictionaries don't hallucinate words that don't exist. False equivalency.

>biggest IP in the world
>lost 50%+ of it's traffic in just a few years
kekkle kakkle

>>105816697 (OP)
SAR US INDIANS VERY TECHNOLOGY MAD
WE KEEP DA G ALIVE SAR

>>105822529
Do you not understand comparisions? It's a lookup that is an alternative to memorization. The important thing is, you found a way to deflect from your stupid point of memorizing everything.

>>105822579
Dictionaries don't hallucinate new words that don't exist.
Do you understand that?

>>105822584
You are retarded. I'm done.

>>105816697 (OP)
4chan is what is dying, AI has nothing to do with it. /v/ is just one of the boards with largest mass appeal so it sees the affects the least. All the smaller interest boards are extremely dead these days.

>>105816697 (OP)
Less users isn't necessarily a bad thing in the current year considering where a lot of them come from.

>>105816697 (OP)
I'm just here to goon to chatbots and improve my comfyui setup. I've already installed Gentoo on my thinkpad

>>105816697 (OP)
I write the same amount of code now. None

>>105816809
that's why you went to...reddit ?

>>105816714
>>105819980
this works so well for bait because it really is how a lot of these fucking morons talk.
>>105816697 (OP)
This is good. We need less people on 4chan so it can stop being popular. I'm tired of fucking seeing zoomers and normie faggots here.

>>105822889
stay there

>>105817223
pretty much on point

it's already dead...it's still warm but it won't last for long. Fuck what do I do now. I just don't know where to look for social interaction irl with those who are not turbo normies or slobs.

good luck to you man

>>105816697 (OP)
I can't even read tech/sci news sites anymore.

It's all bullshit about LLMs.

>>105816697 (OP)
/g/ (and 4chan in general) have been dying because of mismanagement.
>Ever since the launch of ChatGPT we have seen a consistent and rapid drop on /g/ users that isn't consistent
yeah because the fucking AI generals made the board shit
>>105819221
>They threw billions into those social media campaigns, that were about normalizing lying and propaganda, and this is the fallout.
i buy this, the massive CIA psyops of the 2010s have finally become ineffective.
>>105821349
it was like this pre hack, people just left so it's more noticeable now.

>>105819713
>We are a counter/sub culture a lot of powerful people want to go a way.

it fizzled out on it's own, it's a shell of it's former self and it is only partially our fault, contemporary reality just couldn't have made it go for much longer

what if i just like the ai porn tho? am i contributing to the slop machine?

>>105820731
t.absolute retard

>>105820740
somethingawful literally hailed reddit as their successor what the fuck are you talking about you dumb fag

go back to 9gag or whatever lmao

shut the fuck up
codemonkeys aren't /g/, never were and never will be
you should also take your generals to /b/

No need to learn tech or discuss it anymore if you can just ask a FREE TUTOR. In the long run this is good for job prospects as all of the gen alpha babies that grew up with ipads and AI sure theyll be able to prompt claude to spit them out a website just for them to not know how to host it or any of the networking behind it. There will always be a physical aspect to IT as such Network admin will never be obsolete. You can fire 99% of your devs but someone will still have to setup their equipment and all of the servers. You have until the early 2030s to get your CCIE and CISSP to ensure a career in tech. May god help us all.

>>105820585
This is the solution that will be enforced if we don't find a solution ourselves that's better.
>>105820606
DDoS is much more solvable than spam. We can run tor hidden services, use CDNs, use p2p and distributed systems. Think: raise the cost of spamming.

>>105816697 (OP)
>Ever since the launch of ChatGPT we have seen a consistent and rapid drop on /g/ users that isn't consistent with the usage of the rest of 4chan.
its moved to tpot

>>105817287
>15 years ago it felt like the average person on 4chan had an actual brain and something to say. Where did these people go?
Walled gardens like private Discord servers

Where do I go for Advent of Code? It’s the only fun time on /g/, but I can’t deny the last few years have been a bit less lively. I think 4chan is dead, and I’ve accepted the future is probably Discord, but I don’t know any good Discords to join.

>>105816697 (OP)
>50% of posters are bots, shills proagandists and israeli agents
>Why is engagement dropping?
Why could it be

>>105823636
I'm never joining discord. I'm staying here forever, or wherever the next IB is.

>>105816697 (OP)
its more likely that the large segment that treated /g/ as glorified tech support fucked off to chatgpt.

>>105823636
>future is probably Discord

it objectively absolutely is not, maybe the new platform with all the sexy features like antispam and extra layers of anonymity already exists and is being gatekept (rightfully so) or maybe the demand for such spaces is so miniscule that it won't ever exist or gain any inertia if it does

>>105816697 (OP)
i just come here less often because general threads are gay
all that ai and "cyberpunk" crap is not what i came here for, but i'm more willing to leave than i am to make them go back

>>105823591
lol lmao

I started coming to /g/ because of AI, and I would hazard a guess that everyone else started leaving /g/ because of AI. It's basically politics at this point and people don't want to be around those they disagree with.

By the way becoming more powerful over time is only one vector for AI, the other vector is becoming more accessible. It'll do both. Antis will cry in the corner as they continue to compare it to NFTs and shit, while it becomes the most powerful technology the world has ever seen.

>>105816714
Kek, are you still on that train of delusion?
Four years after the vaccinations, people haven’t dropped dead, except the millions who died of COVID because they were unvaccinated.
The vaccines work, and have no more side effects than other vaccines or medications in general.
All you do by posting inane shit like that is outing yourself as a complete retard.

>>105816927
>no life retards claiming to be experts of technology
This a thousand times. Pretty much everyone here has absolutely no competence but huge ego.
Getting a question answered properly never happens here any more. Reddit, Stackoverflow and other forums are way better.

>>105816927
we aren't here to answer your questions you fucking nigger

>>105823869
if the vay works, why didnt all the unvaxxed die, like you all promised?

>>105816727
I've tried it before with getting help on Linux, and it's sometimes flawed in its reasoning and decision making; it doesn't properly understand nuances--at least not in my experience. I can't remember specifically what I was trying to do, but I remember that the approach I was advised to take ended up being bloated and overcomplicated.

I suppose you can use it, just that you should double-check everything it feeds you--almost no one does this. It might be technically correct and *work*, but there are always nuances you won't be certain of if you don't see the information yourself first hand, which at that point, you're better off reading the source material yourself.
>ChatGPT has completely replaced reddit for me
I wish redditors would at least do this instead of shitting up hobby-specific subreddits with their noob-tier questions that can easily be answered by looking through previous posts, or doing a quick search. Inane and "show and tell"-type posts could be done away with if you could still call someone a faggot without getting immediately banned. Reddit in its entirety is simply flawed.

>>105816697 (OP)
bottom signal (or top signal for AI) :^)

The culture here has changed too much in the past 10 years. I come to check the catalog once every few weeks and then leave.

>>105823902
There still are useful threads. /fwt/ answered and delivered a lot of information regarding current Windows buils and how to make them usable. I've revived two laptops with great success using info on there.

>>105821515
Major social media platforms, the same sites that killed forums
TikTok, Facebook, Reddit, IG, Twitter, Discord, YT
ChatGPT, LLMs, and genertive AI are the next iteration of this process
Why interact with real people when you can interact with an entity fine-tuned to your interests, needs, and desires that is always willing to talk and replies immediately? Eventually I don't think humans will interact much on the internet, not because the internet is so polluted by bots, but because we will prefer the company of AI

>>105824921
it's no entity, it has obvious patterns, would never be conscious - how can people treat it as anything but a tool? Sure I talk to it as if it were a human but only because that brings the best answers from its training data, since it's trained on humans talking with each other.

>>105824813
Do you have brain rot from other places on the internet?

>>105816794
g has been diluted by normie tier technology " enthusiasts", it started about 10 years ago, and it has been getting progressively worse, the bot situation only hastens it. the competency level has dropped precipitously since covid , too many braindead voices drowning out real discussion.

>>105825032
For now it is only appealing to isolated and/or vulnerable people. People that are schizoid, shut-ins, or emotionally needy, and that is because these are the first people to prefer the company of AI to people. Normal people wouldn't engage with or entertain them sufficiently, but a machine will. Gradually this will spread to broader groups as AI becomes more intelligent, more empathetic, more interesting, and generally a better conversationalist. I don't think it will happen quickly, it will be slow, but gradually people will prefer the company of AI. AI therapists, AI girlfriends, AI companions, AI teachers, AI doctors, AI service works, etc.

>>105816697 (OP)
4chan in general is dying. There are threads that will stay up on /b/ for more than a day. Not remade, the same thread.

If that doesn't tell you how little traffic the site is getting from actual people, idk what else will.

>>105816714
>A good portion would also be the vaxxies dying off.
Partially, the other part is covid slowing people down.
But the decline in /lgbt/ might suggest that people that were more open to pharma in their lives might have been more likely to also take a jab and probably already had issues with health from their pharma/drug abuse.

Another part of it are the psyops by clear non-anons, like with OP who thinks this place is reddit, so spaces his post like reddit.
But, even those account forums are in decline. I've seen discords that are simply losing the plot completely nowadays and I've seen people IRL that are in a stupor of some form. The latter is likely trauma from what has transpired over the past few years, but also an attack on their health through pharma by a racket/mob that are clearly fucking with them and killing them or pacifying them through their manufactured pharma and diseases. That racket are also harming themselves, but clearly people within it can't fight it. It's in a systematic hell at this stage.

The last reason is of course hysteria, because trying to convince people that they might be under attack is bordering useless nowadays because people just go into their shell and happy place when you bring up the reality of the situation. In fact, they start attacking you when you do this. It's a reflex coping mechanism.
This is basically universal with all people.

I will say this though, covid and the jab are definitely targeting the brain and people are definitely not nearly as motivated or functional because of that. The media are trying to spin it as an effect of AI use too. Fucking lugenpresse deserve the rope. The disease targets these parts of the brain.

Also, it's kinda weird how Israel is flexing right when people are at their most dysfunctional.

>>105816794
Now look at /lgbt/.
You know that "trans genocide" we laugh at? They're not wrong. It's definitely there and it's probably impacting the economy weirdly too. I've noticed media catering to them a lot less, so these industries clearly see the pattern and how it's lowering profitability catering to a dwindling demographic.

Though the CCCP crackdown made that worse too and industries also started catering to Chinese legalities. Trumps own bullshit against lgbt added to this too.

>>105816794
/out/ got a noticeable drop and never recovered after the site went down

>>105825099
you committing category errors, we're speaking about a LLM not about a conscious agent that's gaining more skills and abilities lmao

>>105817424
>what happened in 2013 though?

>>105817614
>the nigger filter
That burned off a fuck tonne of users. But also the catcha timer did not help.
Why would I wait 15 minutes to post when I can post nearly instantly in most other places?

>>105817851
>it's got nothing to do with pharma lobbying for more crackdowns on places like 4chan either
>nor was the MIC leveraged in this either
Covid OPSEC crackdowns clearly did the most damage for all of the internet. Not just this place.
Just look at how bad Google is now.

Sometimes I suspect AI either was a part of this OPSEC crackdown that began with covid or was the reason why they started to crackdown before AI got out of control. Hence the censorship protocols.
But I guess when your system knows it's killing it's people, it might want to zip up people's lips. Can't have prisoners in auschwitz talk right? They might revolt.
This is also why they cracked down on bars and venues in my area. That wasn't just money, I found several operations in my state alone that were doing this for the sake of "safety" during peak quarantine.

>>105818870
>except you can say the nigger word here.
At one point you couldn't. Had that remained, it would have.

>it's clear that *baseless speculation*
laughed and then stopped reading

>>105816697 (OP)
Yet we haven't seen any less shill threads or the constant AI gen threads.

You can download a chatboat and argue with it indefinitely so there's no reason for people to goad strangers anymore to satiate their disorders.

if you're not specializing in AI you will be left behind.
>but I know how to program in COBOL!
lol

>>105819482
Discord has been in rapid decline lately as people started to doubt other users as potential AI catfish operations.
Which is correct.

But I find it coincidental that the crackdown on encryption and the increasing anti-anonymous rhetoric by my government is a sign of the REAL reason why the internet is dying. The internet became Oz overnight. YOU are the threat now and YOU need transparency, not them (despite them murdering millions with these protocols over the past few years).

Plus cost of living doesn't help. It's hard to get free time posting when the state is committed to a doctrine of overadaptation with the peasants and work. Make things more expensive. Make work harsher and less financially beneficial. Leverage the state and disenfranchise the individual to pacify them and any rhetoric or base to organise against the state.


Long story short, kill every elite. Not a single one lives. Peasant rebellion starts today.

>>105825352
No, soon specialising in hacking AI and reverse engineering will be king. Because it's the only way you'll live soon.

Also save absolutely everything you can on your local HDD.
Coportations will soon use AI to scrap the entire internet to automatically take down any copyrighted material or anything they don't like.

>>105825099
Nigger I don't prefer the company of myself or the chair I'm sitting on, let alone people or AI. Never going to happen.

>>105816785
I did it for a while and got burnt out. Now I'm doing flight training to fly commercially and find I like tech again. Not like I used to but I don't hate having to fix my network shit anymore.

>>105825117
/b/'s been dead since 2011.
I think it's arguably having a revival last time I checked it (a couple days ago) because for a while it was very very dead.

>>105816697 (OP)
People just realized how boring and useless this site is during the hack and found better shit to do

>>105825380
>better shit to do
such as?

>>105825083
>g
>not /g/

Reminder that I tend to assume that people, that do not add the slashes or capitalise their sentences, are bots. This is because this started to become more of a thing around 2016 when bots first started to spam (8)chan, not just this place.
It's clearly OPSEC. I remember things like Shareblue getting a fuck tonne of money to spam here too at the time. That's why assange was snuffed very fast after that.

>>105825380
Nigger what is this? 2013?
If I didn't get banned on other forums every 2 seconds for questioning shit, I'd not be here.
But this place got lucky. The rest of the internet is just so cancerous with white knights and groomers that this place is still home to some users.
But don't get me wrong, even this place tried cracking down on shit. Probably because of money, marketing and data.

>>105825393
I just assume they're newfags

>>105823536
>This is the solution that will be enforced if we don't find a solution ourselves that's better.
You are still being too optimistic.The people found an alternative to centralized and tracked banking with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Monero, and still they made the private one completely illegal and you can already see them making moves to phase out the others in favor of CBDCs.
Finding a solution ourselves just buys time and gives them a template to build on for their controlled replacement.

>>105825353
Discord went on decline during CoViD.
imho it peaked on 4chan in 2018 or so, when there were generals who had official discord servers.
But for normies, it will have peaked around 2020. And went on decline during most of the lockdown years.
So when normies had lots of free time, being locked in at home, they pivoted to passive consumption like youtube or twitch or tiktok or onlyfans, but not active discussion. Because any active discussion was filled with propaganda and censorship. Twitter banned you for suggesting that vaccinated people can get CoViD. It wasn't any different with WhatsApp or Facebook. Discord went ballistic against anyone who said that lockdowns are stupid.

Everything we experience nowadays, be it the war propaganda or AI slop, is in succession to what they did during CoViD.
It all started with the "pandemic". But there seems to be a collective amnesia. Even the people who are redpilled underplay just how massive the covid censorship was.

>>105816697 (OP)
Most of the catalog is generals, consumerist threads, rage bait, autistic spam, mindless racism and rudeness. I'm not sure why I even bother to still come here, probably just out of habit.

>>105825642
unhealthy habit like all of us and you're so jaded you wouldn't even reply in good faith to anyone

my home ISP is permabanned and I'm never giving hiroshimoot a cent so I can almost never post

>>105825732
It's hard not to be jaded when the average person is here just to make my day worse on purpose, or to argue for the sake of arguing. Over the years I've learned a few useful things on 4chan, thanks to the rare people who saw this site as a vehicle for spreading information. They all seem to be gone now.

>>105826641

This is a hilarious perspective. Back in 2011 or so I was exploring software dev as a career, came here out of interest, got slammed with endless assholery about how there would be no jobs and gatekeepers insisting you didn't know how to program unless you were writing expert level C etc etc. Of course there were the OS fanboy flamewars as usual, Linux vs Windows. I promise it hasn't gotten any more toxic, this is just the internet.

I would guess /g/ got a spike in interest during the tech boom and is now dropping since we are in tech winter.

>>105826669
Sorry you had a bad experience, but I was talking more about 4chan as a whole, which I've been browsing regularly since 2007 and trust me, it has changed a lot.

I actually come here more than I used to. Five years ago, /g/ was nothing but children LARPing as /prog/fags and denying any actual IT jobs. I had a shit-tier IT job plugging in cables and managing servers, and /g/ refused to accept that I existed because I wasn’t le Silicon Valley startup meme. Now that AI is wiping out these cringe students and making them realise how their jobs are worthless, I actually have a lot more in common with the average /g/ poster, since I hate AI too and my job is also a dead-end procession of misery. The rest of you have just discovered reality; that’s all that’s happened.

>>105816697 (OP)
>/g/ is dying
This board and website would be better off if 90% of the people would stop coming here
If you think it is dying, I invite you to fuck off and find another website to shit up

>>105817365
We have all become such turbo-consumers that we have lost the ability to write innovative thoughts. The Internet was great for 15-20 years, but now we’re all poisoned in the head and we literally can’t write new threads any more.

>>105825535
>they made the private one completely illegal
it isn't, and they absolutely will not phase out btc as that cat is out of the bag. they'll obviously offer their own CDBC though as you say and that will attract those who still trust and use regular banking (which is basically everyone)

>>105817223
>the Naruto daily storytime threads on /a/

>>105816697 (OP)
4chud as a website is dying.

>>105826895
>/g/ hates ai.
I don't think this is the case. /g/ seems to love AI and big corporation software now.

>>105825231
Not like humans do, they don't have online learning (yet). What I mean is as the AI labs improve model quality, capability, context size, in-context learning, and so on.

>>105816697 (OP)
the better question is: where are people going? is there such a thing at all? are people just living their lives instead of wasting it on the internet?

>>105824877
>There still are useful threads. /fwt/ answered and delivered a lot of information regarding current Windows buils and how to make them usable. I've revived two laptops with great success using info on there.
But they are 1 out of like 40. Not a good enough ratio to retain users. The 39 others are typically incompetent circlejerks.
>>105824307
Name a single medicine that has a 100% efficacy. Are you fucking retarded?

>>105827582
>where are people going?
reddit

>>105816714
This explains 90% of the drop. Most of /g/ are sadly vaxxcattle

>>105827814
doubt. I'd bet reddit keeps losing users, and most of the new ones are indians
people are either leaving to social networks or simply got tired of online communities

>>105816785
You have never written a line of code in your life and you entire interaction with "tech" is buying horse paste from facebook marketplace, you ugly cunt.

>>105827794
Not that anon but it became apparent that the vaccine didn't work as we saw high numbers of breakthrough infections. And really it should have been intuitive. The coronavirus mutates pretty fast so it's not a surprise that vaccines had their efficacy drop to near useless as the virus mutated into a different forms. Putting aside concerns about the novel approach many (but not all) covid vaccines used, it really only ever made sense to vaccinate vulnerable populations like the elderly anyways. Of course, big pharma saw a chance to make a ton of money and they jumped on it and people fell for it.

>>105817223
Fucking Russkies, I hope they get nuked.

>>105817281
In the future, there will be robots.

>>105816697 (OP)
why would i post in /sqt/ and get ignored when i could get my wrong answers from chatgpt instead?

>>105828097
Seething kike. Day of the oven can't come soon enough.

Lol idk what you're talking about
>t. Norwegian with two job offers at my second year of uni ( comp science )

>>105828216
>t. europoor

>>105816697 (OP)
>It's clear that a lot of users don't feel the need to post in these threads anymore as the IT job prospects evaporate and everyone realizes there is no future in IT anymore.
geg

>>105828209
>sped devolves into sheenies when confronted with reality
Embarrassing.

>>105828240
You are the projecting nigger faggot. If you can spend more than 2 years writing another enterprise CRUD poop you are a subhuman NPC or you are fucking unemployed. Kys you kike's cattle nigger.

>>105819221
I mostly supported ukraine on /k/ and I got my thread deleted (and b& maybe I forgot) after I mede a non bait thread about bakhmut falling. That was the last staw for me. This was after they spammed an image of cat saying "they still haven't taken bakhmut" constantly for a year. I even thought that meme was kind of funny but when it's forced by some powertripping mod it just feel like reddit. Actually a lot of the posts there read like they were from reddit.

>>105828283
>I mostly supported ukraine
Fuck off NAFO troon

>>105817223
>like currently the Naruto daily storytime threads on /a/ have been dealing with a literal jeet that bought two 4chan Passes and for a couple days literally spammed each thread until image limit
...it sounds like the invisible hand of the free market works after all.
Seethe and cope, Nardo always sucked and a fresh injection of peri peri peng pop mmmmmzipbop memes won't change that.

Welcome to the free internet. You can pay to make your experience better.

>>105828283
>I mostly supported ukraine on /k/ and I got my thread deleted
well yes isn't that offtopic?

>>105825038
Not really. If anything, my bad time wasting habits came from my time here. I only follow 20ish people on twitter and I spend most of my free time reading.

>>105819221
>>105828283
I think /k/ is literally controlled by glowies and probably has automated moderation.
some years ago, I posted a thread about american forces being beaten in some war (can't remember which war was this), and it was deleted in less than 1 minute. I'm not joking: the thread lasted less than a minute.

>>105821583
generals are a natural formation since lots of posters have similar questions/topics they want to bring up. better to keep them in one place

>>105828283
>>105828440
/k/ has always been a psychotic shithole and not worth posting in. I wouldn't be surprised if the jannies are just that rabid (and bot-assisted ofc, retarded failed normies love AI). it's just arfcom with a lower average age

>>105828260
>*incoherent /pol/troon noises*
Fuck off back to your hugbox, tubby.

>>105828332
>t.

>>105828470
>t. kike

>>105828496
Not even one line of code. In your entire life.

>>105816697 (OP)
/g/ and 4chan is dying because 4channers can no longer take a joke. Everyday I see retards malding at innocent jabs and seething at the most obvious satire ever posted. They'll scream jeet, chink and the n-word all day but can't handle being called mutt. Mindbroken by BIPOC's very existence. Ya'll need to stop being so offended.

p.s. I'm white and employed in a non-dying STEM industry

>>105828450
>I wouldn't be surprised if the jannies are just that rabid (and bot-assisted ofc, retarded failed normies love AI).
this was years before the current AI frenzy

>>105828506
>Not even one line of code. In your entire life.
Yea because I'm learning an ME degree now kike. Haven't seen drone bombing used in civilian yet? Maybe it will be you next.

>>105816697 (OP)
>/g/ & IT are dying

>>105828520
then I bet the jannies are just that rabid. it's /k/, they're psychos

there's one that haunts cangen and bans ANYONE who doesn't fit the thread "profile" because some furfag annoyed him ages ago. now if you say you post anything other than trudeau hate or specifically about SKSs you get banned. all other politics are banned. Except for saying to become the 51st state. Presumably because the janny is an american who chooses to LARP a "redpilled canadian" for unclear reasons

>>105828515
>4channers can no longer take a joke
Like those CP threads that appear everyday in this board?

If 4chan can't be the wildwest of the internet anymore then it's lived out its usefulness. Seething jannies either deleting and pruning because of their feefees or mook's mandates to keep the cash flow running has killed this site. It needs to drop captcha to get more retards and roasties back because it's just too much effort for very little luxury but muh spam you'll cry, well if the site doesn't have the cash to stop spam by other means then just let it die. 4chan died when raids died. Simple as.

>>105828586
this dude has never participated in a raid ever

>>105828613
OK retard zoomer. Thanks for your input.

thanks steve

>shintel is ded
>nvidia is gone
>amd is only ryzen
>mobos are shit
>cables are burning
>cases are a pride parade
>screens are too large for a human being
>frames are fake
>games are trash
>programming is jeet
>buying is leasing
>consoles are memes

>>105816958
Everyone was so authentic back then. Zero irony poisoning or assuming malice of their fellow poster.

>>105828360
/k/ has a military enlistment general (but only for the golem army of course) and battles in a current war are not treated as offtopic if it is going their way, but promptly censored when they aren't. And not just battles, but retarded propaganda in general. /k/ believed in the Ghost of Kyiv for months. /k/ was still living in a parallel universe of government propaganda long after everybody else already moved on.
>>105828283
>I mostly supported ukraine
yet, being surrounded by the dumbest propaganda in human history didn't make you reconsider your stance.

>>105828440
>/k/ is literally controlled by glowies
Not glowies, but zogbots.
Rapeape is a "Veteran", so is another /k/ janny and yet another janny is some fat fuck who almost got a heart attack in a youtube video where he waddles accross a shooting range.

>>105828550
even psychos need to work to eat. I don't think deleting threads in under a minute is something a real human being can do just like that.

btw, I also remember seeing military propaganda in /k/ and /pol/: 2 threads that were almost exact copies of one each other. this was like 10 years ago. I left a message and some other anon said he noticed too, and then both threads died.

all of the above makes me think some groups were being paid to post fake shit and moderate.

>>105828684
>Not glowies, but zogbots.
yeah, maybe. whatever the name, I doubt it's just overzealous moderation

>>105828775
>even psychos need to work to eat.
He probably lives at home and/or gets government gibs.

>all of the above makes me think some groups were being paid to post fake shit
This is obviously happening, but whether it's officially endorsed or even done by the jannies is what's in question. We'll probably never know. All we can know is that the jannies are incompetent at best and outright disruptive to the community out of spite at worst. It makes sense; the type of person to apply to be a jannie is probably someone with beef with their home board, and the free time and resources Do It For Free. They have no incentive to encourage a healthy community, they just act out their grudges

>>105828684
>/k/ has a military enlistment general (but only for the golem army of course)
lmao yeah i almost forgot that posting in /meg/ about any other state military earns you a month long ban

>>105828515
>a non-dying STEM industry
lol

>>105828929
Why do non-americans even post on /k/? Everyone knows that only the USA has legal gun ownership. Maybe you should bin that knife before I make some calls, europoor.

Some things that might be happening across 4chan:

>posts drop as the ratio of lurkers vs posters diverges due to the rise of mobile browsing

or

>posts/traffic drops as zoomers are turned off by 4chan's antiquated forum like style and gravitate more towards twitter and tiktok

Personally I would love it if this place became a permanent museum for millenials as we grow old and die in a space that served us specifically. You may not like it but it actually feels like posting quality has gone up over the years, the only people who are left here actually want to be here and post real things.

>>105829053
this but with the exception of /pol/ and the explicit porn boards (but with the exception there of /d/, but not /aco/)

>>105816697 (OP)
ok

>>105825393
Bots have excellent spelling and grammar, you fool. It’s the /brit/-tier no-capitals retardposting that’s almost entirely real and genuine morons.

>>105816697 (OP)
Good riddance

>>105825393
>It's clearly OPSEC.
you don't even know what that acronym means

>>105828346
>peri peri peng pop mmmmmzipbop
what language is this

>>105828231
>europoor
>norway
Lmao as expected of a mutt
Enjoy going into debt slavery for visiting your doctor once

>>105816794
crazy that being down for a week and we actually gained users
truly, we're here forever

>>105828124
https://ann-clinmicrob.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12941-023-00594-y
The science literally tells us something else.

As for virus mutation: That is like saying the flu vaccine is useless because we need a new one every year. Well, yes, but the flu vaccine has a high efficacy against the current strains, but not the ones that survive it. Though to be fair, with Trump cutting the vaccine science boards, this point may be less true for the US going forward.

>>105828124
>Not that anon but it became apparent that the vaccine didn't work as we saw high numbers of breakthrough infections
someone has no clue what the point of vaccines is

The only jobs left are cleaning up ai hallucinations. Most of the construction work is gone now, the rest is janny work.

>>105829196
NarutoFan.com

>>105829455
>no numbers for omnicron
pointless and dated.

>That is like saying the flu vaccine is useless because we need a new one every year.
They are unless you are vulnerable to flus (elderly or something).

>>105829512
>it actually autodirects to Viz
didn't expect that

>>105816697 (OP)
>Be honest, as some of the last users of /g/ reading this post right now. Are you also affected by this? Do you write less code nowadays? Less interested in learning new tech stacks and technologies?

you have to dig through too much garbage on here to reach actual discussion with posts that i can learn from. the moderators seem to be fully behind it. therefore, i mostly come here to fling shit and "discuss" culture war social issues and how shit our industry is.

i never stopped liking tech itself, and in fact kept getting better at it. the average /g/ thread offers nothing to me in this regard.

>>105829830
what is there even to "discuss" about tech anymore?

>>105829855
i mean specific technical issues encountered in my personal projects. there plenty of "discussion" regarding the larger industry trends as i mentioned.

>>105829894
>specific technical issues encountered in my personal projects.
/g/ IS NOT TECH SUPPORT

>>105829906
yeah, that's what we're discussing. /g/ is coomsoom/AI/pol, that's the fucking problem

>>105826940
I personally became the opposite, all my technical posts are always ignored, people just discuss surface level brand shit.

>>105828515
you're actually describing the mentality of jannies/mods perfectly, they cannot take a joke or understand context as if they
re genuinely, real life, autists

>>105830045
this
>>105829906
as long as theres off topic trash on this board
we do tech support
this thread is one of the 5-8 that are unequivocally technology and are actually something new

>this thread is one of the 5-8 that are unequivocally technology and are actually something new
fff
i thyought i was in the pokemon thread
b-but point still stands
i will do tech support bc such threads are the most technoilogical atm

>>105830307
>pokemon thread
bringing down the guild through electronic warfare by hacking Rotom through repeated but rhythmic use of Thunderwave

>>105825199
maybe they actually went outdoors for once

you guys are such negative nancies.

if i want to nerd out i will do that irl with my basedbud geeksquad.

/g/ is for carmackposting, bjarneposting, shitposting, goonposting, sneedposting, inane autism, extreme unintelligence, severe retardation and other joys of such nature.

sometimes you just want to verbally defecate on the couch and marvel at the sheer disgusting fetid mess that can be engineered into existence.

>>105830887
this but unironically. i come here pretty much to get drunk and complain about my (actually kinda comfy) job, and occasionally lament that the world around me is leaving me behind. in general, to be a brain damaged moron unsuitable for the world, so I can vent all that negative energy so i dont go insane in the IRL

to keep the tension pulse up, even if the tension gauge is empty, really

[spoiler]I do/did the same in the /v/ subsidiaries[/spoiler]

>>105816697 (OP)
you post on /g/ for future employment purposes?
what is this tardation?
>>105816765
since the last long downtime thee has been a visible drop in posters
npcs r gone
and that is a good thing

>>105816697 (OP)
>Less interested in learning new tech stacks and technologies?

yes but not because of ai, i got sick of working as a fullstack web dev way before ai. it's all just garbage. software is getting worse over time and we're soon at the point where software quality goes down faster than hardware quality goes up. and all tech companies are doing is using tech to screw over their customers as much as possible, instead of making better products. i hate this whole industry.

>>105831847
only autists stuck, this place hasn't been this bad in millennia