Chinese guy seems to claim to have solved the mosquito laser beam problem

lidar system for mosquitos doesn’t seem possible because of how small these insects are combined with the noise of the environment. I’ve seen a few papers about how you could use the Doppler effect to see the frequency of their wings but nothing too convincing

Also seems like it’s one of those problems that seems easy to solve but is actually extremely hard

Any laser that could kill a mosquito would be a danger to the eyes too right?

Here is the link

https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/this-invention-can-use-lidar-to-shoot-down-30-mosquitoes-per-second-with-a-laser-photonmatrix-range-has-up-to-6-meter-kill-zone-can-gauge-distance-orientation-and-body-size-in-3-milliseconds

Yeah I am definitely putting a computerized high-powered auto-targeting Chinese laser in my vicinity to kill a few mosquitos

>>105816967
Fuck mosquitos tho

>>105816930 (OP)
>Any laser that could kill a mosquito would be a danger to the eyes too right?
It would be cool to wear as a hat. I would buy it.

>>105816930 (OP)
Lidar can judge distance and depth pretty well, it's why it's used for things like 3d scanners and self-driving car sensors to detect incoming objects. It would just have to be a high enough resolution to detect mosquitos. Assuming that you have a space that's mostly open air, like pointing it at an open window or something, it should be able to detect mosquitos and other bugs.

>>105816930 (OP)
bet they can make a bigger one for jeets

>>105816930 (OP)
>Crowdfunding
It's a scam. They'd go for more sophisticated investors if they had a working product.

>>105817482
What grade lidar would you need to do it you think? Any commercial options?

i will now buy your housefire starting device

>wake up
>covered in mosquito corpses

>>105817528
Idk, maybe the DJI L2 could probably do it. But it starts at like $20k. Given, it's one of the cheaper enterprise-grade LiDARs

>>105816967
don't worry, it'll be b& right after someone takes one to a protest

>>105817546
Yeah I think that using water with rubbing alcohol or soap would be better with a compressor shooting device not sure how hard it would be to deliver a shot over several meters

I've always wanted some miniature phased array antenna radar with surface to air airburst salt missiles for mosquitoes. This is cool but I don't trust it to not blind you, also I don't have a mosquito problem

>>105819157
I don’t have a mosquito problem either but thinking about the problem really fascinates me. Mosquitos are such tiny animals and kill so many. And if fixed it would be huge and it doesn’t seem too crazy of a problem to work on

can we use lasers to kill other bugs? cockroaches? spiders?

lots of big mos shills in this thread

>>105817519
this

>>105816930 (OP)
>>105816953
Cool, but could this end up burning down my house?

>>105816930 (OP)
$500 is nothing if this device works and it doesn't break.

>>105817546
>>105820865
Who has mosquito in there house?

>>105816930 (OP)
imagine scaling this technology up and turning it on humans

i do not care until it's AI assisted

AI never makes mistakes

>>105821082
>hallucinates mosquitos
>destroys your retro video game and funko pop collection

>>105820951
Anon, mosquitos will land on your clothes and now you're trapped in a room with an invisible blood-eating monster that has to feed every 20 minutes

Damn, new Chinese blinding machine just dropped

I mean, aren't there probably sprays that are lethal to mosquitos but not humans?

>>105816930 (OP)
>Chinese guy inventor
>LIDAR heat-seeking lazer
>spyware
>no prior media attention
>mid-range cost, similar to a Switch 2

So what is the actual problem here

We have already figured out that electric mesh + uv light = zap. This isn't necessary.

>>105816930 (OP)
I fucking hate pests. The worst part of looking for a new apartment is reading the reviews and finding one from five years ago that mentions a cockroach. Every fucking apartment has that fucking review. My solution has just been to rent a house and pay for monthly spraying which has been good but it would be great if there were some actual 100% effective methods for keeping them away.

>>105820882
>works
>doesn't break
>chinese
Pick two.

>>105816967
You would if it were made by the United States of Mossad though :)

>>105816930 (OP)
poor little mosquitos

Or just install net mesh in all your windows, I spent $80 and made size perfect nets for all the windows in my house. Zero mosquitoes, flies and bugs for a year now

>>105816930 (OP)
You don't need more than pic rel to deal with a mosquito problem. I used to work at pharmaceutical, this is all I'd use against them and it does the trick. You can even torture the fuckers with it by a spraying a bit first, and then spraying a bit more and watch them die.

>>105820962
The eye-zapper will probably be a military tech in our lifetimes, leading soldiers to needing special glasses.

>>105821348
????
That shit is standard in my hellhole. Screens are dirt cheap builders are really jewing you guys.

>>105821539
I did it myself with metal frames and I have big windows

>>105816967
>>105817410
Whatever happened to that plan to genocide certain biting species of mosquitoes by introducing sterile ones into the native population to decimate their fertility rates?
https://www.cdc.gov/mosquitoes/mosquito-control/irradiated-mosquitoes.html
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/sterile-insect-technique-used-to-suppress-mosquito-disease-vectors-in-florida
>The SIT pilot project, which was initiated n the coastal city of Fort Myers, has already been tested out on Captiva Island in Florida, around 30 miles away, during a successful pilot project between 2020 and 2022. Male mosquitoes were mass-reared and sterilized before being released to mate with wild females. At the peak of releases, approximately 400 000 sterile males were released per week in Captiva Island. The releases led to a significant reduction of the population in the first year, 2020, and complete suppression in 2021 and 2022. Scientists were able to compare ecological indexes between Sanibel Island (the control area) and Captiva Island, where the sterile mosquitoes were released. Rachel Morreale, Manager of the Applied Science and Technologies Department at LCMCD, stated “it was remarkable to see the impacts that our sterile male releases had on the population of Ae. aegypti on Captiva.”

I do remember something from an university 10 years ago that was experimenting with this, but this device seems a bit small

There's plenty of commercial engraving lasers that can scan a large area fast but they usually have fixed focus distance

I think I remember a talk from 10+ years ago from a guy working at Microsoft Research where they "solved" this problem. They used cameras and were using some DSP approach that looked for mosquito wing frequencies or something. The problems that made it impractical then are still problems now, namely that any laser capable of shooting a mosquito out of the air is capable of instantly blinding you, and that an auto-targetting laser system is much more expensive than mosquito repellant, nets, or insecticide

>>105816930 (OP)
>>Any laser that could kill a mosquito would be a danger to the eyes too right?
Probably, yeah. Reflections and such would be dangerous too, there's no way I'd want this kind of thing operating in my house.

Also this product is like a solution in search of a problem. Just install mosquito nets on your windows, who in their right mind allows mosquitos to get into their home only to buy a $500 laser gadget with built-in blindness Russian roulette as a solution?

>>105816930 (OP)
It's a solved problem and it doesn't require lasers. Just release male mosquitoes that are infertile, and since female mosquitoes can only mate once in their lifetime, this drastically cuts down on mosquito reproduction.

>>105821588
I figure it didn’t get the funding the researchers wanted so they moved on. There’s so much good research in the funding graveyard.

>>105821588
>we reduced their population by 2% for one breeding season
whoa

would be more effective if they introduced degenerate genetic traits into the mosquitos that made their entire species less fit, sort of like tricking whites into racemixing

>>105817510
Is there a lidar for smell?

>>105821644
Why are retards so bad at exponential math?

>>105821670
There's nothing exponential going on. The amount of mosquitos you're producing in a lab is 0.01% the number of wild mosquitos so the effect is a statistical blip in the first place. Even if you produced 50%, it wouldn't matter because mosquitos are still going to reach the population cap that the environment can support, male fertility is not the limiting factor.

>>105821588
>>105821643
It's not dead but it doesn't seem like it would be useful in a wide area like a forest but only as a border to prevent diffusion of unwanted species

https://science.slashdot.org/story/25/07/03/2356217/sterilized-flies-to-be-released-in-order-to-stop-flesh-eating-maggot-infestation
https://science.slashdot.org/story/25/06/07/0630231/we-finally-may-be-able-to-rid-the-world-of-mosquitoes-but-should-we

>>105821694
>retarded slop
If you do 2% each generation there is and it will go fast.

>>105821715
Well it's something.

I saw and article where another chink put an ir lamp in front of a desk fan and build a mosquito harvester

>>105816930 (OP)
Only 500 to nuke mosquitos with laser beams and never have to deal with those little faggots again? Sign me up. Probably a scam tho.

>>105821348
>Or just install net mesh
jeet detected. those are standard on all American windows since 1950s. welcome to modernity.

>>105821112
Yeah I've had the odd skeeter in my house, but I just swat it and it's done. No need for any fancy tech
>>105821217
permethrin, harmless to humans, deadly to most arthropods, fish, and cats

>>105816930 (OP)
Lasers are the stupidest solution to flying insects. Imagine allowing any kind of AI to automatically detect and kill something without human intervention. Even with a 99% accuracy rate I wouldn't trust that shit to not blind or otherwise hurt somebody

>>105821641
>solved problem
>just individually castrate 10 trillion mosquitos and release them over every inch of the planet, then pray theyre not incels and actually find some mosquito pussy
>problem solved!

>>105821263
CO2 bait would be a good addition

>>105821644
yeah, using gene drive would be a more permanent solution

>>105816930 (OP)
I mean it sounds neat but i'm not sure how it notices the difference between a mosquito and other bugs.

>>105821112
Male mosquitos don't bite humans. Females do to feed their fertilized eggs.

>>105824908
Why should it stop at just mosquitos? Fuck all insects. I want their entire ecosystem out my house.

>>105821644
They just need to make the sterile mosquitoes into mosquito femboys and the male mosquitoes will mate with them instead of female mosquitoes

It's called the Star Wars Mosquito Defense System and has existed for a long time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGkPMZxWPpA

The laser will definitely blind you. A rubbing alcohol and water shooter with a compressor seems more reasonable as it’s easy to clean with minimal residu

>>105820326
can it be used to blind small animals? Roughly the size of a human? Would it be painful?

>>105816930 (OP)
Stop posting wumao bullshit. /g/ is for real technology not ai propaganda.

>>105821082
>AI never makes mistakes
Ask some "mainstream AI" this:
Where does the phrase "niggers tongue my anus" come from? Do niggers really like licking asses? Are there any Jewish influence?

I'm terrified of lasers. It's just a matter of time until someone develops and builds a weaponized laser system that can blind hundreds of people in a crowd in an instant.

>>105817454
Any LASER that can do anything is really bad news for eyes.
LASER damage to eyes happens insanely quick, it's a joke.

>>105825514
Uhhh, there's already LiDAR on volvo cars that has been shown to permanently damage other cameras from a few meters distance

>>105821539
Euros don't have this technology and BRAG about it.

>Hmm... so you're telling me this device can detect, identify, and track aerial targets beyond visual range, without using radar?
>Yes, comrade general

>>105820335
Spider Industrial Complex (SIC) strikes again.

>>105825616
Yeah that shit shouldn't be allowed in public

>>105826076
You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.

>>105826076
Gas traps are very effective, chemical warfare.
>But that violates the Gebeeva Conventions
Bee crimes are only charged if you lose.

>>105816930 (OP)
I don't care about mosquitos, can I calibrate it to target human eyes instead?

>>105826169
good news: it already is, it just needs a signal to switch the mode.

>>105826169
Laseranon is facing charges. Even in a self-defense scenario this sounds cruel.

>>105816930 (OP)
>lidar system for mosquitos doesn’t seem possible because of how small these insects are combined with the noise of the environment.
>Also seems like it’s one of those problems that seems easy to solve but is actually extremely hard

What couldn't you just use acoustic imaging for this? You can already detect tiny leaks against background noise with them, surely a mosquito would be easy.

>>105816930 (OP)
>DIY
>Scale up the laser
>use YOLO to detect your favorite target of choice
>target those selected
>pew pew

Its not rocket science

>>105825015
sometimes i fucking love this place.

>>105825015
Are you trying to copy the WEF experiment and take it onto animals?

>SHOOP DA WHOOP
>Congraturation, you are now infertire

Why does it have to be a laser? Why not just make automated turret that fires salt?

>salt is cheap and plentiful everywhere
>no worries about house fires or damage to the eyes
>wont hurt people or damage property in the cases where it misses
>would be more cost efficient since its not wasting energy on a laser or trying to manage that laser

Why when you can just grab a flamethrower

>>105816930 (OP)
>Any laser that could kill a mosquito would be a danger to the eyes too right?
At 1400-1550 nm wavelength it would probably be kinda/sorta safe, but you'd never get it certified.

>>105825537
>LASER damage to eyes happens insanely quick, it's a joke.
Because it tends to hit a surface, either the cornea or the retina depending on the wavelength. If you pick the wavelength just right it is absorbed in the volume of the eye.

>>105821247
That it's probably fake. The price of the LIDAR and laser components alone should be more than the total cost for this to really be effective.

>>105821730
>2% each generation
>exponential
anon that's not how exponential works you big fucking retard, you're arguing against yourself

Chinese century

>>105830051
2D lidar modules are cheap, because they are used in robovacuums. AFAICS this works along a plane, so 2D is all you need. The galvo can just be a single mirror on a motor too. So then you just need a laser diode. He uses blue, which is not ideal for safety but couple watt laser diodes are cheap.

If you want to make it work in 3D it's harder, but 2D simplifies things.

>>105831311
So it will only work in the mosquitos are on a flat plane that the device can sit parallel to? That's quite limiting and not what I think people are imagining when they hear about this.

>>105831311
>2d lidar
wtf why wouldn't you just use a camera

>>105816967
Mosquito hands typed this post

>>105821670
the mosquitos already mutated around the gene-drive that should've made all offspring male. The mosquitos with the gene-edit probably had other issues that made them less fit to reproduce and spread their male-only genes.

my local exterminator said those laser/electric are a scam. if you want to get rid of flys use a fan from honeywell.

>>105831448
He has the rotating table so it can shoot up on a rotating vertical plane. Mosquitos are quite slow.

>>105829519
i don't want it shooting salt in my eye

>>105830457
>the trophy book

>>105816930 (OP)
>Starts at 500
Hopefully Xiaomi buys him out and starts churning out 80 dollar mosquito blasters

>>105830051
>The price of the LIDAR and laser components
I got a chink roomba that mapped out my house in a few minutes with its built in Lidar for a solid 500 bucks

>>105816930 (OP)
until it bugs out and kills the human in sight lol.

>>105817822
If I could be free from mosquitos forever for 20k, I'd do it.

t. rich but living in a tropical 'paradise'

>>105834390
just put nets on windows and never open them

>>105816930 (OP)
>High powered laser
Wouldn't this blind you, or at the very least damage your eyesight, even if you weren't directly staring at it?
I swear every youtube video I see of someone fucking around with high powered lasers to pop balloons, they're wearing laser safety glasses and harping on about how dangerous the reflected laser light can be

>>105826293
>let out a small fart
>chinese laser seals your anus shut

make one against ticks
im not buying glorified Permethrine / DEET if it doesn't deal with ticks