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Is OLED burn in solved yet ?
Anonymous No.105818399 [Report] >>105820302 >>105835309 >>105836051
>>105818391 (OP)
No it is not and it probably never will be solved.
Anonymous No.105818403 [Report] >>105826575 >>105830722 >>105835332
>Xbox controller
Anonymous No.105818417 [Report] >>105818503 >>105820124 >>105821301 >>105821755 >>105823929 >>105828289
With how the world seems to be moving to treating electronics as something that becomes junk after a few years of use... who cares? Your OLED TV that cost 2k started to go to shit after 3 years? LOL, buy a new one. You obviously had the disposable income the first time.
Anonymous No.105818487 [Report] >>105819571 >>105837487
>>105818391 (OP)
Yes, in iPhones.
Anonymous No.105818503 [Report] >>105840859
>>105818417
The reality is if you have a 144hz monitor you're good in most cases anyways. Not even the most popular titles can reliably reach that on most systems when we factor in new and modern games. It's pretty fucking sad desu that we're selling these monitors when 5090s can't even reach the performance without memegen on most new titles.
Anonymous No.105818611 [Report] >>105819571
>>105818391 (OP)
it's "solved" by buying a new one every 3 years
Anonymous No.105818640 [Report] >>105818817 >>105819611
>>105818391 (OP)
yes it's called micro led
Anonymous No.105818650 [Report] >>105820971 >>105824179 >>105828316 >>105828735 >>105834249 >>105835340
Yes, it’s called use the maintnence functions built into your monitor and don’t run at max brightness

Use case for more than 200 nits?
Anonymous No.105818665 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
Not yet, but soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUA1OmXMXA
Anonymous No.105818693 [Report] >>105823235
>>105818391 (OP)
I have no evidence for the assertion I am about to make.

But I think modern OLEDs might make it worse in trying to fix it. The fancy anti-burn in compensation circuits will actually accelerate the problem. This is because to maintain uniformity, they have to drive worn pixels harder, thus causing them to ware even faster resulting in runaway burn until the display is ruined. It would be better to just tolerate a slight unevenness rather than make worse by trying to compensate.
Anonymous No.105818706 [Report]
the worst part is going to be that they're going to fix it but charge you like crazy for the "fixed" version, I fucking hate them
Anonymous No.105818817 [Report]
>>105818640
Basically this. oled panels were e-waste from day one
Anonymous No.105819571 [Report] >>105819611 >>105820018 >>105823418 >>105837487
>>105818487
>>105818611
basically this
iPhone + microLED on PC and you'll never get burn in
Anonymous No.105819591 [Report] >>105820062
>>105818391 (OP)

OLED are for suckers and consoooomers. Wait for the next panel that will have all the benefits and none of the downsides.
Anonymous No.105819611 [Report]
>>105819571
meant to reply to >>105818640 on the 2nd one
Anonymous No.105820018 [Report] >>105826164 >>105828757
>>105819571
there's no microled on pc that tech is 10 years off if ever
Anonymous No.105820062 [Report] >>105824679
>>105819591
next panel is like 15 years away minimum
Anonymous No.105820105 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
It's impossible to solve consumption of your display. LED backlit dogshit just has color shift instead.
Anonymous No.105820124 [Report] >>105828445
>>105818417
holy zoom zoom
electronics has been disposable trash forever
Anonymous No.105820179 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
>Is OLED burn in solved yet ?
yes, you dont buy oled and just buy an ips
Anonymous No.105820180 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
You can't solve it because it's an inherent property of the display tech that pixels degrade on use
You can slow it down by lower brightness, or periodically engage the mechanism that degrades all pixels to the same level but that sacrifices the life of the panel to restore uniformity
Anonymous No.105820302 [Report] >>105820523 >>105820802 >>105821627 >>105823244 >>105824308 >>105830130
>>105818399
QLED ! Quantum Dot LED. Not the "perfect black" but suffers no burn in and shows light, brilliant colors and contrast.
Anonymous No.105820486 [Report]
dual layer lcd is the closest to oled but costs a fortune and has its own drawbacks
Anonymous No.105820512 [Report] >>105820545
>>105818391 (OP)
The O in OLED stands for "organic." What's referred to as burn in is the organic component breaking down over time with heat and losing the ability to display light in that range. It's not necessarily burning like the phosphors on CRT did, though.
As such so long as there's an O in that name, it will suffer image retention eventually.
Best you can hope for is to replace it with a proper solution, like micro led, when the technology becomes available and cheap enough by the time your display starts to fail.
Anonymous No.105820523 [Report] >>105823406
>>105820302
Too bad that shit is expensive as fuck
Anonymous No.105820545 [Report] >>105820635 >>105821235
>>105820512
Normal LEDs also degrade over time with heat.
If you have a LED bulb that's a few years old, it will be dimmer than a brand new one.
Anonymous No.105820635 [Report] >>105820691
>>105820545
I'm running first batch LED lights in my home, back from 2015/2016 when they hit the store shelves. I have yet to change out a single one.
Anonymous No.105820691 [Report]
>>105820635
Irrelevant. LEDs used for lighting have lots of things on their side that those stuffed into displays don't, including much better cooling and not needing to be driven as hard. Rtings' ongoing reliability test continues to see LED LCDs dropping like flies, either through outright failures or the development of severe uniformity issues as the LEDs burn themselves out at different rates.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
So pick your poison.
Anonymous No.105820802 [Report] >>105823378
>>105820302
>suffers no burn
nope
Anonymous No.105820971 [Report]
>>105818650
and only play fast paced video games on them, and only for a few hours and then shut them down, also buy a new one 2 years later
Anonymous No.105821068 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
no they just give out 3 year warranties now for your $1000 monitor
they are also still dim as fuck because Samsung Display forces it so they don't burn in immediately
and now monitor makers are trying to come up with hacks to brighten the screens
https://youtu.be/MlqS4gLmS5E

it's still a massive meme
Anonymous No.105821077 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
For TVs? Yes.
For monitors? I don't know I am not stupid enough to fall for that jewery
Anonymous No.105821235 [Report] >>105821356 >>105824935
>>105820545
The degradation for standard LED displays is a lot more uniform and a lot slower. You won't get image retention, just overall dimness, and it will take 3x as long at least.
Anonymous No.105821301 [Report]
>>105818417
Which is why I'm still using a 20 year old 32" 1080p LCD TV that I already revived once by replacing a broken diode, despite fancying a nice 55" 4K TV and having the money for it.
I simply refuse to buy engineered-to-fail garbage electronics that will be e-waste within 3 years. Fuck that whole industry.
Anonymous No.105821321 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
no and it's impossible to solve
Anonymous No.105821327 [Report] >>105821565
>>105818391 (OP)
>that "gun"
I'm so glad I don't play AAA slop
Anonymous No.105821356 [Report] >>105823200
>>105821235
>The degradation for standard LED displays is a lot more uniform
For cheap, shit displays with low peak brightness and no local dimming, sure. But then your picture quality is just garbage from day one in that case, rather than getting worse over time. LED LCDs with local dimming suffer from uneven wear the same as OLEDs, except you just get massive dark blotches on your screen instead of actual burn-in.

Your choice is pretty much buy a cheap, shit screen that'll last forever and look like shit from day one, or buy an expensive monitor that'll look amazing on day one and get progressively worse over the years.
Anonymous No.105821453 [Report]
>Buy OLED now
>In 5 years when you get a hint of burnin, there will be burnin-proof Max OLED displays
Whatever you buy now will be temporary anyway, might as well get something that looks good for the better part of a decade than something that looks bad forever.
Anonymous No.105821519 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
Not really, but there are enough mitigations in the firmware to make it not something to worry about unless you are trying to do it on purpose.
Anonymous No.105821565 [Report]
>>105821327
It fires small rockets, not metal cased primer fired ammunition. It's fine.
Anonymous No.105821627 [Report]
>>105820302
qled is just lcd with a misleading marketing name
Anonymous No.105821666 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
does it really matter what display type you get? all monitors are ugly low dpi garbage
Anonymous No.105821755 [Report]
>>105818417
Retard take. If I have to replace my stuff once every 20 years, the disposable income I need to replace it every now and then is much lower than if I have to throw shit away every 3 years.
Anonymous No.105821807 [Report] >>105837683
>>105818391 (OP)
Yeah, it's called buying a new one when the problem becomes visible and starts to bother you.
Anonymous No.105823200 [Report]
>>105821356
What you posted is a lot more uniform than the burn in OLED undergoes, and like I said that you conveniently ignored, takes much longer.
LED degradation generally takes 100,000 active hours, where OLED have been observed to start at 20,000.
LCD occurs in 30k-60k hours, and I agree that those should be avoided too.
Anonymous No.105823235 [Report]
>>105818693
that is literally the opposite of how it works
a 5 second google search could have told you this
Anonymous No.105823244 [Report]
>>105820302
consoomer retard
Anonymous No.105823245 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
my monitor's burn in and my work burn out cancel each other out
Anonymous No.105823362 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
don't care, still not getting one.
Anonymous No.105823378 [Report]
>>105820802
Qled == qdoled. It doesn't get burn in it just looks bad.
Anonymous No.105823399 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
BROWN
Anonymous No.105823406 [Report] >>105824308 >>105828644 >>105846141
>>105820523
You sure you didn't mean 'cheap as fuck'?
OLED is more expensive.
Anonymous No.105823418 [Report] >>105835462
>>105819571
>microLED on PC
PC monitor is second class citizen compared to TV screen.
Hypothetically speaking, if it takes 10 years for Samsung to make a microLED TV affordable, it would take 20 years from now for a microLED monitor to even exist
Anonymous No.105823929 [Report]
>>105818417
What are you doing to your electronics?
I bought into the OLED hype in late 2022, so I have a first-gen QD-OLED as my monitor and as my TV. Both show no signs of burn-in or brightness diminishing. They are both in regular use.
Anonymous No.105824179 [Report] >>105824409 >>105828417
>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
HDR
Anonymous No.105824308 [Report]
>>105820302
>>105823406
Nigger these are just LCDs, nobody cares
Anonymous No.105824409 [Report] >>105824576 >>105830910
>>105824179
i dont like retinas either
Anonymous No.105824576 [Report] >>105824615
>>105824409
Touch grass
Anonymous No.105824615 [Report] >>105834126 >>105835091
>>105824576
k still not buying your hdr scam
Anonymous No.105824679 [Report] >>105846151
>>105820062
isn't there some pholed or tandem shit coming?
Anonymous No.105824906 [Report] >>105824953 >>105828769 >>105834716
>>105818391 (OP)
no visible burn-in on a 5 year old LG CX, 3 year old iphone 14 pro nor 1 year old AW3225QF; the latter of which i use for like 15 hours a day for mixed productivity / media / gaming
so i'd say so pretty much
sure they are going to inherently break down over time, it's just that that time might now be so long that you'll want to replace your panel anyway by the time it's noticeable
Anonymous No.105824915 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
>he fell for the oled meme
kekerinos
Anonymous No.105824935 [Report] >>105828273
>>105821235
Not true for MicroLED displays.
It suffers from the same burn-in as OLED, just slower.
Anonymous No.105824938 [Report]
Everything organic dies.
Anonymous No.105824953 [Report]
>>105824906
>that you'll want to replace anyway
What for, aside from being forced to? Just because? As long as you buy a good panel with the res+hz+size you actually want, there shouldn't be any reason to "upgrade" until there's entirely new tech that's straight up better (might take a couple decades at this rate). Numbers go up shit like 8k and 300hz+ are things most people don't really need or want.
Anonymous No.105825308 [Report] >>105825557 >>105825572 >>105826101 >>105842562
>>105818391 (OP)
>solves monitors in your path
Anonymous No.105825557 [Report] >>105825571 >>105825583 >>105846118
>>105825308
>not ultrawide
>not high-dpi
eh
Anonymous No.105825571 [Report]
>>105825557
>not ultrawide
Meme
>not high-dpi
There's a 4K model that has more dimming zones and 1600 nit maximum brightness
Anonymous No.105825572 [Report]
>>105825308
eh
>1440p
Anonymous No.105825578 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
Nope, it is not.
Anonymous No.105825579 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
>memetech
sorry but im ips for life
Anonymous No.105825583 [Report]
>>105825557
>ultrawide
ew
Anonymous No.105825669 [Report]
i'll let you know in 2 more weeks when my c1 finally burns in
trust the plan
Anonymous No.105826101 [Report] >>105826112 >>105828793 >>105831395
>>105825308
>Horrible input lag and response times with local dimming enabled
Anonymous No.105826112 [Report] >>105826196
>>105826101
>Horrible made up shit
Anonymous No.105826164 [Report] >>105832139
>>105820018
There are already microLED screens out there like the AOC Q27G3XMN
Anonymous No.105826196 [Report] >>105826314 >>105832519
>>105826112
Anonymous No.105826272 [Report] >>105826741 >>105827397
I've been looking to upgrade a 10 year old IPS monitor and apparently it's hard to get something that is a no compromise big upgrade in all dimensions. Unless you shell something like 2-3k for a professional grade shit.
Anonymous No.105826314 [Report]
>>105826196
>horrible input lag
>show absolutely average input lag for lcd panels
Anonymous No.105826575 [Report] >>105842365
>>105818403
the best
Anonymous No.105826741 [Report] >>105827238 >>105828860 >>105846329
>>105826272
If you want an OLED but don't want to break bank be on the lookout for a LG C4 or C5 42 inch OLED TV. 144hz with g-sync and freesync. Similar DPI to 27 inch 1440p monitors.
A monitor would be nicer of course, but you can find these things for like 650 - 700 around black friday and in the spring/early summer when the new model is released. Don't have to connect it to the internet, and there is a setting that makes it always have the HDMI input active so you don't have to touch the remote unless you want to go change image settings or something.
Anonymous No.105827238 [Report]
>>105826741
I'll consider this.
Anonymous No.105827397 [Report] >>105828295 >>105837468
>>105826272
>professional grade
are you a fucking artist workign with color on your shit ass 60hz screen?
you could be using a 240hz or a 165hz tv calibrated for 1/3rd the cost and 99% better for general use
LMAO

>>105818391 (OP)
Refer to the first rule of oled
OLED IS NOT. FOR. POORFAGS.
Anonymous No.105828273 [Report]
>>105824935
Source?
Anonymous No.105828289 [Report]
>>105818417
Cost me $800 on black friday, it's 4 years old going on 5. If you can't afford $160 a year then you might as well kill yourself.
Anonymous No.105828295 [Report]
>>105827397
Intellectually destitute and/or shill
Anonymous No.105828316 [Report] >>105828518
>>105818650
Dude even my cheap asrock woled has auto dimming and pixel cleaning it really is just a bunch of dumb niggers flapping their gums ITT
Anonymous No.105828417 [Report] >>105832999 >>105833019
>>105824179
HDR will autoactivate on media that supports it. And it's not meant to burn out your eyeballs with constant brightness across 100% of the screen. It's variable. Most HDR films I watched rarely if ever have scenes that turn the brightness up on the entire screen to the point I find it uncomfortable.
Anonymous No.105828445 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
never was an issue
this >>105820124
just buy a new one in 10 years when it finally shows burn in
Anonymous No.105828518 [Report]
>>105828316
>just a bunch of dumb niggers flapping their gums
Yes, hello, welcome to /g/! I hope you're enjoying your first day here. :)
Anonymous No.105828620 [Report]
Physically it's not something that gets solved.
It's just you can mitigate it, and people have, and successfully use these for a good amount of time. Displays don't cease to function either with the amount of burn-in that's not noticeable, btw. But you don't spend a fortune on one of these. You first make enough money where OLED isn't such a big expense, so that in a few years you might upgrade. There's also warranty that covers burn-in.
In my honest opinion, I'd very much rather have 3 years of OLED over 15 of LCD at this point.
Anonymous No.105828644 [Report]
>>105823406
Oh yeah like, $100 more expensive. Get real, who the fuck is going to buy an $500 IPS monitor at this point?
Anonymous No.105828694 [Report] >>105828723 >>105846329
>>105818391 (OP)
No but you'll get every sunken cost faggot telling you that yes it is just never ever use it and baby it 24x7 and feed it your milkies and you'll get 2 years out of it if you're lucky. It's all part of the great replacement theory to make more consumables and reduce longevity of all goods.
>but muh inky blacks
Shutuup you faggot nigger
Anonymous No.105828723 [Report] >>105828887
>>105828694
I've been using mine with a light theme, taskbar always on, web browsing 75% of the time, at around 8 to 10 hours every day for almost a year now. You fell for a bigger meme than I did.
Anonymous No.105828725 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
It's solved by buying a new one but they're 3-4x the price of a "regular" gaming monitor
Anonymous No.105828735 [Report]
>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
Image quality
Anonymous No.105828736 [Report]
>>10582392
>worksonmymachine™
Ah here's one of these retards I spoke of in denial that their organic diodes are immortal and not sucumable to the whims of entropy. Fascinating solipsism. Why does every yank (yes I can tell) suffer from survivorship bias? Is it American exceptionalism and individualism? I don't get it.
Anonymous No.105828757 [Report] >>105828788 >>105830228
>>105820018
>there's no microled on pc that tech is 10 years off if ever
X isn't coming sweaty! Buy Y (muh fragile oled) now or miss out! Lmao
Anonymous No.105828769 [Report]
>>105824906
>mixed productivity
Lmao
Anonymous No.105828788 [Report]
>>105828757
>I'm not shilling display technology, you're shilling display technology!
Anonymous No.105828793 [Report]
>>105826101
>Horrible input lag
Imperceptible input lag aka means horrible, apparently. Bar bigger = horrible! How do you tie your shoes in the morning being this retarded?
Anonymous No.105828860 [Report] >>105830732
>>105826741
>Just use a 42" fucking TV bro
>Just deal with RWBG layouts bro
RGB FOREVER
Anonymous No.105828887 [Report] >>105829040 >>105830230
>>105828723
O R G A N I C
R
G
A
N
I
C

you can't stop what's coming — that's vanity.
Let me guess: American? Lmao.
Anonymous No.105829040 [Report] >>105829072
>>105828887
damn, projecting nationalities now? don't you have a president to complain about?
Anonymous No.105829072 [Report] >>105829080
>>105829040
Don't you have a taskbar to be babying lest you might have to admit to your sunken cost in a brittle and fragile technology your fomo was too weak to resist?
Anonymous No.105829080 [Report]
>>105829072
Boy, you sure know how to read.
Anonymous No.105830130 [Report]
>>105820302
Literally the same black levels as standard LCD. The colors a bit nicer, but that's it.
Anonymous No.105830228 [Report] >>105832147
>>105828757
oh please do tell me or show me any evidence that microled will magically overcome its problems anytime soon. if they were anywhere near doing do the press wouldnt stfu about it you shit eating moron
Anonymous No.105830230 [Report]
>>105828887
I can smash it on the ground and get a replacement for another couple of years anon. I don't know why you are salty when by the time these are dead getting a replacement with the same specs will be cheap and a better more sustainable format will be realized in the market by now.
Anonymous No.105830693 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
Never owned an OLED screen but how is this considered a problem when it's hard to do on purpose? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kPsKyF5bQ
Is it just the uncomfortable feeling that it might happen eventually? I get that with my phone screen sometimes
Anonymous No.105830722 [Report] >>105842365
>>105818403
That's the best one though
Anonymous No.105830732 [Report]
>>105828860
For me 42" is minimum but I use a 48"
Anonymous No.105830881 [Report] >>105830884 >>105833161 >>105834745 >>105840963 >>105844899 >>105845347
LEDs have been a disaster for humans
Anonymous No.105830884 [Report]
>>105830881
>oled screen filter overlay low brightness masterrace
Anonymous No.105830899 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
Yes, it's called buying a new one every few years if it bothers you.
If you don't like it just buy LCD.
You're also ignoring the elephant in the room that is IPS bleed being worse than OLED burn in after a few years.
Anonymous No.105830910 [Report] >>105831301
>>105824409
Reflected light outside regularly hits 10k nits and you don't even notice.
Anonymous No.105831301 [Report]
>>105830910
yes i do notice and i look away or put the shades down
it's not even remotely close to a point of comparison you absolute brainlet
Anonymous No.105831395 [Report]
>>105826101
>How to tell someone is a Macfag without directly saying it, the post.
Anonymous No.105831437 [Report] >>105831577
you can google "[model name] burn in" on images and get results for any monitor thats been on market for more than a year

the copes are

>its actually solved this time! just buy a new one ;)
>what are you poor saar? in america we do thing big money style baby we buying new monitor every year like white man
>just use it 20 minutes at a time not in direct sunlight with lowest brightness settings and refresh rate and only buy this particular brand and you can reduce burn in from 1 year to 3

oled tech is subsidized and shilled so hard because its environmentaly friendly.

its not even a significant improvement unless you turn the brightness up, which makes them burn in multiple times faster

liek everything else on 4chan its half advertisements and thats why people are so aggressive about OLED. who gives a shit otherwise
Anonymous No.105831577 [Report] >>105831631 >>105832150 >>105832163 >>105832167
>>105831437
oled looks majestic at low brightness and shits on ips in every significant manner
Anonymous No.105831631 [Report] >>105831730
>>105831577
cool but ive used both and theyre similar enough for it to not matter. except the ips doesnt start burning in within half a year

in fact the biggest thing i noticed when i unboxed my oled was how hard reading text was. it was pretty unimpressive
Anonymous No.105831730 [Report] >>105832247
>>105831631
>theyre similar enough for it to not matter
how does being a blind luddite feel?
Anonymous No.105832139 [Report]
>>105826164
That's mini LED. microLED means subpixels are individual LEDs. The concept of dimming zones isn't applicable.
Anonymous No.105832147 [Report]
>>105830228
It doesn't have to. IPS and VA win by not doing anything.
Anonymous No.105832150 [Report] >>105835231 >>105835382
>>105831577
Doesn't PWM eyestrain affects OLED moreso than other IPS panel due to individually lit light?
That's a big yike with low brightness
Anonymous No.105832163 [Report]
>>105831577
>oled
>majestic
>low brightness
Lmao cope after cope after cope! Muh 500 nits in a 6.9*10^‐20٪ window is enough for me bro!
Anonymous No.105832167 [Report] >>105834204 >>105834888
>>105831577
Except dynamic range from 1-255 and color rendition.
Anonymous No.105832247 [Report] >>105832422 >>105834888
>>105831730
i must CONSOOOOM youtuber GREEN TECHHHHHHH

its still REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!!!
Anonymous No.105832422 [Report]
>>105832247
The youtuber has one i can't miss out REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.105832519 [Report]
>>105826196
>Yeah dude, three frames of lag, not horrible at all
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.
Anonymous No.105832777 [Report] >>105833830 >>105834204
It does bother me when I can tell a movie or TV show is graded for HDR because the SDR version has bad tonemapping. I notice it especially when the SDR version has raised blacks because they're filming more and more dark scenes with natural lighting these days. Or they're grading low brightness scenes to lower nits and assuming everyone owns an OLED TV. So maybe HDR is a meme but it still affects the content I consoom.
Anonymous No.105832841 [Report] >>105833026
>>105818391 (OP)
doubt it's totally fixed but i've had mine for 3 years and haven't seen any yet, and i use it for desktop use >8 hours a day at max brightness
Anonymous No.105832850 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
>Is gravity solved yet?
Anonymous No.105832999 [Report]
>>105828417
oleds have no real real HDR thanks to ABL
Anonymous No.105833019 [Report] >>105834204
>>105828417
HDR displays cap total screen brightness so they don't overheat
Anonymous No.105833026 [Report] >>105834041
>>105832841
can you elaborate a bit like what monitor you have ? i want to get an oled monitor and even found one that i think seems great but im terribly afraid of burn in. I spend a lot of time in a web browser, phtoshop/premiere and other programs that have static UI elements. I game and watch movies/tv too but a lot of the screen time is spent on the former.
Anonymous No.105833161 [Report]
>>105830881
Based crt monitor anon
Anonymous No.105833816 [Report] >>105834524 >>105837519
I got a 100$ (expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees) Chinese panel advertised by some moderately serious channels (they at least had latency measuring devices and knew what they were talking about).

It's the best experience I had thus far, genuinely ~4-5ms G2G out of the box, 1100:1 IPS, no issue whatsoever, true 8 bit panel so no FRC, highest gamut coverage there is, on the same level with expensive Oled panels (although useless for me as I've calibrated and clamped it to sRGB).
It's only 165hz but I keep it on 120hz mode as I don't need more.
Anonymous No.105833830 [Report]
>>105832777
TV shows are graded for the HLG curve and the brightness so to speak, it'll be merely a tad darker on a SDR mode/display - because reference white signal strength is at different levels. Basically outside of having the HLG and the SDR image side-by-side you couldn't tell.
Anonymous No.105834041 [Report]
>>105833026
LG C2 42, though I think their 32 inch monitor uses a similar panel, if I were buying now I'd probably go with that instead. i also have a browser open most of the time, static UI elements haven't burned in for me at all even though i don't really bother to move windows around periodically, often have windows in 1 spot for hours at a time. only thing i really do to prevent burn-in anymore is have a cycling wallpaper and auto-hide the taskbar
Anonymous No.105834126 [Report] >>105834867
>>105824615
It's still not as retina-searingly bright as the daylit grass you should be touching, though.
Anonymous No.105834204 [Report]
>>105832167
IPS has better dynamic range and color rendition than OLED? If so, do you know if IPS does those 2 things better than TN and/or VA?
>>105832777
>they're filming more and more dark scenes with natural lighting these days
Have you noticed a trend in decolorization and/or desaturation in movies and/or TV shows past 2010?
>>105833019
Do you recall where you learned that?
Anonymous No.105834249 [Report]
>>105818650
>Yeah bro you just need to babysit the fuck out of it so it doesn't become e-waste in a year
Not really doing a good job of selling it for me
Anonymous No.105834459 [Report] >>105834524
>>105818391 (OP)
Fast VA monitors bought on taobao have better blacks than US IPS and is a better option.
Anonymous No.105834511 [Report] >>105835570 >>105837772
Anyone saying that OLED isn't a massive upgrade over IPS/CRT/miniLED is a poorfag coping
OLED is literally in a league of its own, especially for HDR, and if you post
>its almost the same bro, trust me
You have either never seen an OLED panel in person, or are neck deep in copium
Anonymous No.105834524 [Report] >>105834880
>>105833816
>I got a 100$ (expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees) Chinese panel
Which?
>some moderately serious channels (they at least had latency measuring devices and knew what they were talking about)
Do you have links?
>>105834459
>Fast VA monitors bought on Taobao
Have you noticed smearing, ghosting, input lag, and/or gamma shift on them?
Anonymous No.105834649 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
>Is OLED burn in solved yet ?
It's "solved" in that only people who afford new monitors every 4 years are buying OLED.
Anonymous No.105834716 [Report]
>>105824906
LG C2 for 2 years endless productivity on premiere pro and lots of WoW and Sc2 from time to time and still going strong
Anonymous No.105834745 [Report] >>105837493
>>105830881
What is wrong with aluminiun foil?
Anonymous No.105834867 [Report] >>105834957
>>105834126
k have going blind retard
Anonymous No.105834880 [Report] >>105834985
>>105834524
koorui 24e3 I believe
Anonymous No.105834888 [Report]
>>105832167
k so you're just going to make shit up to defend your trash monitor. well oled cures cancer checkm8 ipsfaggot>>105832247
Anonymous No.105834906 [Report] >>105835010 >>105835086 >>105837781
>bro QOLED is the solution
>bro microLED is the solution
>bro miniLED is the solution
AAAAH I'M GOING INSANE
Anonymous No.105834957 [Report] >>105834974
>>105834867
>have going
I'm evidently not the one who has to worry about going blind.
Anonymous No.105834974 [Report] >>105835031
>>105834957
yeah i typed fun but it didnt register guess i should spend time proofreading my funposts...nah
Anonymous No.105834985 [Report] >>105835057 >>105835070
>>105834880
>koorui 24e3
Have you noticed IPS bleed and/or bloom? Do you recall why you went with that brand?
Anonymous No.105835010 [Report]
>>105834906
microled is the solution tho
Anonymous No.105835031 [Report] >>105835063
>>105834974
See, if you would've gotten your retinas /fit/ with HDR, you would've caught your mistake. Look at me, I stare directly at the sun for 15 minutes each day and fire Watt-power lasers directly into my eyes as part of my morning routine, and as a result, I can see into the 4th dimension.
Anonymous No.105835057 [Report]
>>105834985
Yes I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, failed the lottery, not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination. Otherwise the panel is perfectly uniform with no issues. It has some very tight screws on each side and those probably cause it.
Bloom? No 0 but I never saw it on a IPS panel outside of those with regional backlight.

I went with it solely because it was good measurement data in reviews lol. It has HKC SN238CS04-1 (8bit) which is considered a good panel.
Anonymous No.105835063 [Report]
>>105835031
lel
yeah ive looked into sun gazing i dont buy it but if it works for you who knows? im still not gonna do it
Anonymous No.105835070 [Report] >>105835186
>>105834985
Yes, I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, which failed the lottery and is not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination. Otherwise, the panel is perfectly uniform with no issues. It has some very tight screws on each side, and those probably cause the issue.
Bloom? No 0 but I never saw it on an IPS panel outside of those with regional backlight.

I went with it solely because it was good measurement data in reviews lol. It has HKC SN238CS04-1 (8bit) which is considered a good panel.

(should put my posts more often trough auto correct, takes a second lol)
Anonymous No.105835086 [Report]
>>105834906
all of those require a VA panel for the contrast, so none of them are a serious "Solution"
Anonymous No.105835091 [Report] >>105835118 >>105835119 >>105835139 >>105835242
>>105824615
You don't understand HDR. Luminance is a core component of accurately reproducing colors.

This all depends on your display. I don't know of any released displays that can do HDR justice, since MicroLED isn't out.

OLEDs can't do HDR properly, their sustained and peak nits suck because they auto dim so they don't burn out, but they can do the true low black levels.

MiniLED can do high peak nits, and sustain a high level for longer (they all still auto dim depending on how much of the screen is reaching it's peak nit range afaik). VA panels might have better contrast ratio, I haven't seen one in person. I only know of the Falcon whatever the fuck. Most good MiniLEDs are in China.

HDR True Black is not a gimmick. Contrast is incredibly important. Contrast ratio > peak nits of a display.
Independent lighting of scenes without having to drop or raise the brightness level of the entire scene allows more color variance, quality and reducing banding with lower bit depth.
Non-HDR displays fake luminance through color mixing, HDR lets you directly adjust luminance levels.
HDR as a standard enforces bit depth and color gamuts.
Anonymous No.105835118 [Report]
>>105835091
Fuck I fell for another illusion.
Anyway this one is epic because it empirically proves to each individual the power of intentionality, everyone should realize that there are experiments that go further and we know that we can push our intentionality trough individual hemispheres if we wanted to.
Anonymous No.105835119 [Report] >>105835133 >>105835139
>>105835091
im not and never will use hdr my guy its a gimmick and i dont care
Anonymous No.105835133 [Report]
>>105835119
Know what would open the mind of most people? If they had a 1000:1 monitor, calibrated it to gamma 2.2 (like their phones) and watched it in pitch darkness.
Then looked at their phone again which is like ridiculously high contrast but with the same gamma... they would quickly realize they look for all intents and purposes, the exact same in perceived contrast.
Next level for day time illusion is to peel the coating from your monitor.
Anonymous No.105835139 [Report] >>105835146
>>105835091
I forgot to mention backlight zones, and dimming algorithms for MiniLEDs. I don't want to write anymore, but they're important too per monitor as they can greatly affect blooming. Blooming tends to be an issue on small highlights like stars and fireworks.

I saw noticeable blooming on my 1152 dimming zones playing Dead Space when I was in basically pitch black areas from the RIG lights on your spine that show your HP

>>105835119
The picture in my post literally shows you why HDR is good, but you can stick your head in the sand if you want.
Anonymous No.105835146 [Report] >>105835302
>>105835139
i dont watch tv or movies really hdr on desktop and smartphones is pants on head retarded. enjoy burning your retinas out
Anonymous No.105835186 [Report] >>105835213
>>105835070
>I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, [...] is not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination
You don't notice it unless you're looking for it? How's the input lag (real-time gaming and desktop use)? How's the motion clarity for games and media? Have you noticed smearing, ghosting, and/or color banding?
Anonymous No.105835213 [Report] >>105835234
>>105835186
>How's the input lag (real-time gaming and desktop use)?
In like top 1-2% of all panels without overdrive.
Motion clarity is a function of refresh rate and your fps given the sample and hold nature.
It has no strobing.
It has 0 panel uniformity or technical issues, yes ofc you would have banding if you had a high bitrate image, it's a native 8 bit panel and I force disable dithering at the driver level.
As for its g2g response time, already told you that it's measured around 4-5ms out of the box without ghosting issues, no smearing either because it's extremely fast and within its all refresh rates, even the 165hz mode.
Anonymous No.105835231 [Report] >>105835256 >>105835382
>>105832150
This...right...fucking...here. PWM is a dealbreaker for me. Either you raise the PWM hz and get your retinas boiled out. Or you lower the PWM hz and stare at a strobe light all day.
Anonymous No.105835234 [Report]
>>105835213
at overdrive you get ridiculously low g2g but a tiny bit of inverse ghosting
Anonymous No.105835242 [Report] >>105835249 >>105835302
>>105835091
>their sustained and peak nits suck because they auto dim so they don't burn out
or you could, you know, use your monitor at a sane brightness level and disable auto dimming
Anonymous No.105835249 [Report]
>>105835242
but dude bros need their monitors at blinding 300-400 nits, if it doesn't feel like the sun directly reflecting on white walls it's not a true PC experience...
Anonymous No.105835256 [Report] >>105835362 >>105835382
>>105835231
this is true for smartphones mostly not for tvs and monitors. idk why samsung is such trash but we have them to thank for the dogshit pwm oled panels
Anonymous No.105835302 [Report] >>105835313
>>105835146
>enjoy burning your retinas out


You set the paper white nits level (200 nits is ITU-R BT.2408 white reference) which controls the base luminance (anchor) of scenes depending on your viewing environment and tone mapping works off this. You can choose where to cap your peak nits.


Everything is relative and you are in control, you are creating problems in your head that don't exist.

>>105835242
Not everyone sits in a fully light controlled room. See above.
A friend of mine bought an OLED for his dad, and had to return it because their living room has too much natural light. The TV was unusable during the day because the display was so dim. It couldn't overcome glare and other issues.
Anonymous No.105835309 [Report]
>>105818399
MicroLED
Anonymous No.105835313 [Report] >>105835385
>>105835302
hdr needs to hit high nits to display correctly. problem is high nits burns your retinas. problems for you not me bye.
Anonymous No.105835332 [Report]
>>105818403
some games were meant to be played on controller.
cyberpunk is not one of them, unless for driving.
Anonymous No.105835340 [Report]
>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
I don't live in a cave. My room has windows and I love sun. OLEDs are unusable in a well lit environment.
Anonymous No.105835362 [Report] >>105835382 >>105835412
>>105835256
Its definitely true for smartphones and absolutely true for tv's. I had ended up returning the S23 Ultra due to insane PWM as well shitcanning a middle-higher end non-oled 55" LG tv due to PWM issues. I literally just gave the one year old 55" LG to one of the mexican deliverymen that delivered the Sony I replaced it with. That's how much I hate PWM.
Anonymous No.105835369 [Report] >>105835572
I bought the pg27ucdm, how badly did I fuck up?

I really like it for games like Rust, mainly what i have been playing recently.
Anonymous No.105835382 [Report] >>105835430
>>105832150
>PWM eyestrain
>>105835231
>PWM is a deal-breaker for me
>>105835256
>we have them to thank for the [...] PWM OLED panels
>>105835362
>I hate PWM
https://ledstrain.org/
Anonymous No.105835385 [Report] >>105835412 >>105835423
>>105835313
No it doesn't. HDR True black standard exists for a reason.

OLED and backlit displays are rated to different standards because backlit displays can't do true black like an OLED. Nits therefore need to be higher on IPS, VA, whatever panels to reach the needed contrast ratio.

Humans perceive brightness contrasts from dark the most. 25 to 50 nits is more noticeable than 700 nits to 900. Mapping from true black gives you the best HDR.
Pixel controlled luminance in MicroLED fixes this, because they can reach a reasonable nit level with infinite contrast ratio.

Like I said, no panels can do HDR justice right now.
Anonymous No.105835412 [Report]
>>105835385
k idgaf about a panel that doesnt exist for a gimmick i dont use
>>105835362
oled tvs do not use pwm at least not lg's. the smartphone problem is all samsungs fault. you can get around smartphone pwm if your display doesnt use hdr or u have root. hdr really is the most cancerous bullshit ever invented
Anonymous No.105835423 [Report] >>105835521
>>105835385
what about those $20k sony color grading monitors? they're TFT LCDs
Anonymous No.105835430 [Report]
>>105835382
>https://ledstrain.org/

This actually looks relevant.
Thanks fren.
Anonymous No.105835462 [Report] >>105837644
>>105823418
>buy TV
>connect computah
>IMPOSSSIBLE YOU CANT DO THAT - you
Embarrassing. Consider suicide.
Anonymous No.105835521 [Report] >>105835537
>>105835423
I don't work in A/V so I don't know for sure, but from my understanding it's because they need to be able to pan/hold stills in HDR without auto brightness limiting kick in and it needs to be usable in all imaginable scenarios.


Higher nits means the monitor can do higher 100% sustained white scenes for longer, if your monitor doesn't let you do your work with reference brightness because it's dimming and can't hold the nits of a scene that you've paused in a color grading program/video editor/whatever it's not useful. OLED literally can't do this.

>...for practical purposes the 1000 spec is the minimum spec required for grading of HDR video content. However, at the 1000 level, the full-screen performance requirement under long duration testing is only 600cd/m2. Thus, if while editing the display pauses on a large flash of light that drives the display beyond the performance level that it can sustain for more than the 2-second flash requirement, the display may dim to a level below the video signal being sent to the display and thus no longer accurately represent the video signal. As a video content editor grading the content, adjustments to increase the luminance at this point will not be shown on the screen because a DisplayHDR-1000 display could be power-limited.
Anonymous No.105835537 [Report] >>105835573
>>105835521
they're referring to dual layer lcd these are broadcast production quality monitor they cost like $20k each and have nothing to do with oled
Anonymous No.105835570 [Report] >>105837539
>>105834511
>OLED is literally in a league of its own
It better be because it costs 2-3x more.
Anonymous No.105835572 [Report] >>105835605
>>105835369
As a gamer I would never buy a 27 inch monitor. Also I never found a good cheap 27 inch panel, the only halfway decent ones broke the bank.
Anonymous No.105835573 [Report] >>105835597
>>105835537
The question is quoting a reply about contrast ratio and how self emitting and back lit displays are graded differently because contrast matters. Why else would they be asking about why the monitors are specifically using LCDs? I'm not a mind reader.

Because you can't do reference work on a display that doesn't let you view reference.
Anonymous No.105835597 [Report] >>105835655
>>105835573
wasn't sure you were aware of what dual layer lcd is based on your response.
moving on..
>tandem OLED
Anonymous No.105835605 [Report] >>105835609
>>105835572
>As a gamer, I would never buy a 27 inch monitor
Too small? Or too large?
Anonymous No.105835609 [Report]
>>105835605
Too large.
Anonymous No.105835655 [Report] >>105835687
>>105835597
I don't work in those fields so I don't want to make concrete claims and spread misinformation, I've never read too deeply into it. HDR autism is already bad enough that it scares away normal people from understanding and using it.

Anyway, I thought 1,000 and 4,000 nits are what's typically mastered for. I don't know of any OLED displays, even dual layer ones that can reach 4000 nits sustained. If someone does know more about the industry side of it and wants to share that'd be cool.
Anonymous No.105835687 [Report]
>>105835655
well supposedly a four stack rgb tandem oled hits 4000 nits not sure about sustained. i dont care enough about hdr to make better understanding of the jargon it requires.
Anonymous No.105836051 [Report] >>105836106
>>105818399
microLED does, inorganic LED basically
Anonymous No.105836106 [Report] >>105836115
>>105836051
2 more weeks
Anonymous No.105836115 [Report]
>>105836106
you can already buy it it just costs a gorillion dollars
Anonymous No.105836943 [Report] >>105837801 >>105837865 >>105838314
I maintain my OLEDs by not being an over the top moron. When I'm browsing and watching invidious/freetube videos and shit posting I keep my 42" C4 to the lowest brightness that's just right for my eyes and viewing. I only turn up the brightness when I'm playing vidya. Even then it depends on the game. Like when I'm playing Octopath Traveler 2 or Dragon Quest III HD-2D remake, I don't crank up the brightness, because it's not necessary and those games look really good at the settings I have them. Elden Ring, or Anno 1800, I may turn up the brightness a bit, still, nothing past 80 brightness, 85 Contrast.
Anonymous No.105836959 [Report] >>105837881
Owner of a 55 inch CX, C1x2 (55 and 65 inch) 80 inch A90J and a 42 inch C4. NONE of them have burn in and I use all of them at varying intervals and they ALL receive similar if not the same level of care. Of course usage varies. I'm on the C4 more than the others. The one that is least used is the A90J. The C4 and CX are used simultaneously sometimes, when I'm gaming and watching a show on my jellyfin server. Like right now, I'm playing vidya and watching Black Sails. I have 0 plans on buying another oled anytime soon and I got ALL of my OLEDs FREE! Because I know the game OLED manufacturers play, with the incremental "improvements" and "forced obsolescence". All my LG OLEDs are jailbroken and I have 2 service menu remotes to maintain them.
Anonymous No.105837468 [Report]
>>105827397
>tv
kill yourself spyware shill
Anonymous No.105837487 [Report] >>105846200
>>105818487
>>105819571
horseshit, i use the AOD and when looking at a grey screen i can see the widgets from my lock screen very slightly. it's not enough for me to give a fuck since i'm trading it in next year anyway but it's not "solved".
Anonymous No.105837493 [Report]
>>105834745
aluminium is a neurotoxin
Anonymous No.105837519 [Report] >>105837743
>>105833816
>expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees
don't buy american slop, get it directly from China via a reputable vendor, it's a lot cheaper that way
Anonymous No.105837539 [Report]
>>105835570
>It better be because it costs 2-3x more.
my oled cost 48" oled monitor cost 800, my 43" va monitor cost 1200.
Anonymous No.105837589 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
"just don't use it as much" and "just buy another one LOL" are the current solutions
Anonymous No.105837644 [Report]
>>105835462
>buy TV
>connect computah
enjoy getting spied on 24/7
Anonymous No.105837655 [Report] >>105838227
>>105818391 (OP)
No, just bring back the fucking CRTs already and move onto non-organic solutions. If tape drives had so much potential left in them, so do the tubes.
Anonymous No.105837683 [Report]
>>105821807
Colossal waste of money and earth resources
Anonymous No.105837743 [Report] >>105837774
>>105837519
it's the same price if I buy it from a local shop or import it over a month from China myself and manually pay the VAT on top + fees.
Anonymous No.105837772 [Report]
>>105834511
I know it looks better. Im just scared of burn in from games ui since i game all the time. So im fonna get a mini led
Anonymous No.105837774 [Report] >>105838092
>>105837743
not true, speaking from experience
don't buy american shit or have them as intermediaries, they double the price every fucking time
Anonymous No.105837781 [Report] >>105837920
>>105834906
Micro literally is the solution. Its the next gen of oled. Its just $100,000 currently.
Anonymous No.105837801 [Report]
>>105836943
See i dont wanna think about this. I dont wanna be worried that my settings arent just right and my screen accidentally gets damaged by USING IT.
Anonymous No.105837865 [Report]
>>105836943
Paying the tax just to parent your display fucking lmao
Anonymous No.105837881 [Report] >>105841484
>>105836959
>NONE of them have burn-in
This is physically impossible you retarded fucking faggot.
Anonymous No.105837920 [Report] >>105837931 >>105838034
>>105837781
>Its just $100,000 currently.
It's not. Only if you want something like 89 inch. The jews won't sell anything smaller yet.
Anonymous No.105837931 [Report]
>>105837920
If an 89" is $100,000 than a 65 is probably only $50,000. Theyre practically giving it away
Anonymous No.105838034 [Report]
>>105837920
there's small screens going for $10-15k now, block panels that you put together to make larger displays
Anonymous No.105838092 [Report] >>105838194
>>105837774
your experience is invalid, what do Americans have to do with this btw?
you've interjected to randomly complain about America in a post about a product purchased by an European inside Europe
Anonymous No.105838194 [Report] >>105838484
>>105838092
what brand did you buy again?
Anonymous No.105838221 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
I scratched the surface and I decided to not buy a second monitor, eventhough I want one, am I in the wrong?
Anonymous No.105838227 [Report]
>>105837655
The phosphors and cathodes in CRTs degrade over time as well, you dumb asshole. They can also get burn-in just like OLEDs.
Anonymous No.105838246 [Report] >>105838282 >>105838378
>>105818391 (OP)
I keep seeing people recommending OLED TVs like the C4 instead of OLED monitors because of Windows' shitty HDR implementation. Any reason not to get a 42" OLED TV for this purpose? Text used to look like shit on old LCD and CRT TVs.
Anonymous No.105838282 [Report] >>105838291
>>105838246
only 42? Get a 70+ dood
Anonymous No.105838291 [Report] >>105838297
>>105838282
Nah. I have a 32" VA monitor right now and that's plenty big enough. 42" would be substantial as-is.
Anonymous No.105838297 [Report]
>>105838291
that's beginner boomer levels, you're a pathetic geriatric
Anonymous No.105838314 [Report] >>105841492
>>105836943
>maintain
imagine paying 3x just so you can carefully maintain usage lmaoao
Anonymous No.105838369 [Report] >>105838429 >>105838460 >>105838484
my monitor started having these weird subtle horizontal lines very obvious on blacks and grays. its not the cables or my graphics card, is it done for?
Anonymous No.105838378 [Report] >>105838442 >>105838482 >>105838485
>>105838246
The C4 is better than any OLED monitor, but 42" is just too big for most people to use as a computer monitor. If it's not a problem for you, go for it. Of course, at such a size you're also giving up pixel density, so text and such won't look as crisp as on a smaller display.
Anonymous No.105838429 [Report] >>105838453
>>105838369
viewsonic?
Anonymous No.105838442 [Report]
>>105838378
pixel density? That sounds coummunist, just need me some big ass TV
Anonymous No.105838453 [Report] >>105838460
>>105838429
lenovo, i want to know if its done for so i can throw this piece of shit in the trash and get closure.
Anonymous No.105838460 [Report]
>>105838369
>>105838453
is he alright?
Anonymous No.105838482 [Report]
>>105838378
42 is as small as they go. I don't know - I'll think about it. Something might improve yet.
Anonymous No.105838484 [Report] >>105838753 >>105838792
>>105838194
>what brand did you buy
Koorui.
>>105838369
>my monitor started having these weird subtle horizontal lines; very obvious on blacks and grays
Try going here, and see if you can notice a horizontal line on the top bar (in the middle). Where it says:
>URL, IP address, domain or file hash
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload
If you can see a line, that might be color banding. If so, do you recall the GPU's age?
Anonymous No.105838485 [Report] >>105838708
>>105838378
couldn't you just place the screen like an extra 10-30cm away from you?
Anonymous No.105838708 [Report] >>105838831
>>105838485
Not if you're nearsighted and/or lack the desk space.
Anonymous No.105838753 [Report] >>105838904
>>105838484
bot moment
Anonymous No.105838792 [Report] >>105839190
>>105838484
>Koorui
accounting for parameters the best I could, Philips seems to be cheaper (European brand BTW)
Anonymous No.105838831 [Report] >>105838904
>>105838708
NTA and both apply to me, so I only have a singular 32" 1080p monitor with enlarged fonts. Kwin does a decent enough job so I don't even need a second monitor.
Anonymous No.105838904 [Report] >>105838952 >>105839032
>>105838753
Which part?
>>105838831
>a singular 32" 1080p monitor with enlarged fonts
Do you know if you feel satisfied? Or could you use more?
Anonymous No.105838952 [Report] >>105838977
>>105838904
I know it's enough because I had the opportunity to use a second monitor at a previous job, and after some trial I just disconnected it because it was harder to concentrate on two displays so the second one just went unused after a while.
Anonymous No.105838977 [Report] >>105839065 >>105839898
>>105838952
>32" 1080p
Text is crisp and scales well? Images don't look too large or fuzzy?
Anonymous No.105839032 [Report]
>>105838904
>Try going here, and see if you can notice a horizontal line on the top bar (in the middle). Where it says:
>>URL, IP address, domain or file hash
>https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload
>If you can see a line, that might be color banding. If so, do you recall the GPU's age?
you really thought this is the most efficient way to show case a problem?
Anonymous No.105839065 [Report]
>>105838977
I left display scaling at 1x, I only enlarged the fonts and set font antialiasing to grayscale with slight hinting. What can I say, linux master race!
Anonymous No.105839190 [Report] >>105839432
>>105838792
>Philips seems to be cheaper (European brand BTW)
Taiwanese really. Philips sold their display business to TP Vision wholesale over a decade ago. They just pay for the right to use the Philips name because nobody wants a TP Vision-branded TV or monitor.
Anonymous No.105839432 [Report]
>>105839190
That's a common arrangement but it doesn't really change anything.
Anonymous No.105839898 [Report]
>>105838977
You're asking if text is crisp at 32 inch 1080p?

Is this a joke?
Anonymous No.105840859 [Report] >>105840888
>>105818503
What are you even talking about, midrange GPUs could easily handle the best games such as Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake 3 Arena etc at 8k 240Hz. The limit is digital interfaces (HDMI, DisplayPort), cables and monitors not keeping up. Inb4
>we were talking about modern AAA slop, not actual good games
Anonymous No.105840888 [Report] >>105840964
>>105840859
pic related, the most popular game on Steam. You literally need a 4k240Hz screen to max it out.
Anonymous No.105840963 [Report] >>105841110 >>105841211 >>105841423 >>105841773 >>105842236
>>105830881
Every time I see one of these kinds of pics, I can't help but ask what are you actually supposed to do to detoxify/heal from this stuff? You simply cannot avoid everything in pic rel consistently so there has to be a way to cleanse the body instead of relying on preventative measures
Anonymous No.105840964 [Report]
>>105840888
nta cs2 is horribly unoptimized and an all around shit game
Anonymous No.105841053 [Report]
Yeah it's solved, it doesn't happen anymore
Anonymous No.105841061 [Report]
>1 year since i bought my oled
>~3200h screen on time
wonder how it will look when i get to 10000h
Anonymous No.105841110 [Report] >>105841204
>>105840963
>You simply cannot avoid everything in pic rel consistently
Anonymous No.105841204 [Report]
>>105841110
going amish looks better every day
Anonymous No.105841211 [Report] >>105841423 >>105841773
>>105840963
>what are you actually supposed to do to detoxify/heal from this stuff?
While there are a myriad of ways, this might be one. If you have health questions, /x/ is friendly to those kinds of threads.
Anonymous No.105841423 [Report] >>105841773
>>105840963
>>105841211
As far as I'm aware, this is the latest version of my binding detox agent guide. Some additions and/or corrections: for scooping, ceramic is also viable. And maybe glass. For closing the Heiltropfen container, don't bend the lid to get rid of excess air while sealing it. I ripped a lid that way. It took a while though. If you have hardcore, autistic, OCD tendencies, try not to indulge them for this. A flat surface or your other hand while pushing down (repeatedly while going around the edge until you don't hear and/or feel any clicks) on the lid with a small hump at the center of the lid due to excess air is fine. And should be left at that. As far as remineralization goes, that might be optional. If you don't notice your spine hurting while stooping (when it normally doesn't), you might be fine. But if you do need to remineralize, Celtic sea salt can be added to the list. I use the one by Selina Natural. It's possible the site for the 1st link in the post was taken down after it was shared on /x/. Which might be a common occurrence for some sites that, I assume, cover forbidden topics.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38231733/#q38231904
>You can try a binding detox agent
Anonymous No.105841484 [Report]
>>105837881
faggot little bitch mad that he's poor and can't afford an OLED
Anonymous No.105841492 [Report]
>>105838314
I get my OLEDs free, faggot
Anonymous No.105841773 [Report] >>105845347
>>105840963
>>105841211
>>105841423
I forgot to mention pullulan is synthesized from black mold fermentation. So if you wanna play it safe and need a vegetarian or vegan alternative to gelatin capsules, tapioca capsules should work. But as far as I'm aware, it's rare that a company will use those. So if you wanna go the vegetarian or vegan capsule route, you may need to make your own. Which'll require you to get a capsule machine. What I've been doing lately is use one of those 16 oz Fiji water bottles from Costco. I'll find one (a serving one that no one drinks from) that's already open and isn't filled up too much. Then I'll use a funnel (it might be a KitchenAid one with a rubber tip) to add a scoop of zeolite powder. Then add more Fiji water while aiming for the powder in the funnel. I fill it up to a comfortable level before it gets near to overflowing (make sure to compensate for the funnel tip). Then I start refrigerating it. Chilled zeolite water is more palatable. I started with 1/4 teaspoon. It took me 8 bottles with 1/4 teaspoon in each from around May 25 to July 3 until it seemed my body (potentially) communicated with me (it felt like 1/4 was too watered down and not bulky enough) it was ready to graduate from 1/4. So I've been adding 1/3 teaspoon per bottle lately. I sometimes give a small amount of zeolite water to the cats by adding it to their wet food. Zeolite is supposed to be good for bringing animals back from the brink. As far as I'm aware, it should be safe for dogs and cats. Don't give them too much nor too often so their colons don't get clogged. Give them a rest if you notice their appetite goes down. It's possible I saved a cat's life with zeolite water. Twice. While I'm guessing it's safe for mammals, just make sure to do a safety check first with your preferred search engine. Example: zeolite cat. Lately, I've been using the <20μm one from Heiltropfen.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38231733/#q38232053
>For the Heiltropfen zeolite
Anonymous No.105842236 [Report] >>105842258
>>105840963
First of all, make sure there's nothing fucking you up big time, like choking yourself to death in your sleep by snoring. Get an app and log to see if you're snoring at night. Consider if you need a CPAP, or just don't be obese lol.

Get a standard check up with a blood panel to rule out any external issues.

Don't drink coffee past early noon. You might not feel it, but it still binds to receptors in your brain and takes a while to wash out. Google it's half life.
Dark chocolate and green, black tea especially have their own chemical variants like caffeine. idk more about that.

Wake up at the same time every day. Even on weekends. Your circadian rhythm ties into your endocrine system which releases chemical messengers like cortisol or melatonin to tell your body to wake up or to get sleepy.

When you wake up, go outside for a little bit to get direct sunlight. If you can't do that get a lamp that tries to emulate the good spectrum of sunlight. Be careful of china chink shit that blasts you with cancer UV spectrums. ( https://optimizeyourbiology.com/light-therapy-lamp-database ) Or make your own. The website has a guide for that too.

Don't take absurd doses of melatonin if you're using it for sleep aid, microgram doses are just as effective from the current studies. (300mcg to 900 mcg)

If you need to use melatonin to fix your circadian rhythm take mg doses 3-5 hours before your target bed time. Your brain will adapt to this after a week or two. DO NOT take melatonin too late at night, because you will fuck your sleep even harder.

I take sucrosomial magnesium to avoid magnesium shits. Sucrosomial supplements absorb way more efficently and some of them don't risk causing imbalances of stuff in your body. Sucrosomial zinc for example afaik doesn't cause copper deficines like normal zinc supplements would.
Anonymous No.105842258 [Report]
>>105842236
Don't be fat. Seriously, being fat for you is bad for your body in all types of ways that I don't want to type. It's an exhausting list.

Exercise, it will help you fall asleep at night and is just good for mental health through chemicals it releases. Obviously makes you healthier too if you do the right things. Google it.

Use a proper blue light filter software that goes down to low k temperatures and lets you adjust brightness. (windows night light sucks and basically only f.lux has real tuning. f.lux has it's issues but there's no real alternatives) If you have DDC/CI monitors, you can use software to directly control brightness on the hardware side.

Don't use screens 1-2 hours before bed, and dim your lighting temperature and lumens.

Don't do anything in your bedroom besides sleeping and sex or wanking. You're subconsciously priming your brain if you doom scroll in bed.
Anonymous No.105842365 [Report]
>>105826575
>>105830722
8bitdo, Switch 2 Pro controller and dualsense is better than this dogshit backward controller
Anonymous No.105842562 [Report]
>>105825308
>Local dimming algo either causes blooming or dim highlights
Solves fuck all.
Anonymous No.105844403 [Report] >>105844486 >>105844613
Just bought a 65" lg c4 oled. Gonna pick it up tomorrow. Tell me how i screwed up
Anonymous No.105844486 [Report] >>105844609
>>105844403
It's a c4 woled mla rather than tandem c5 trash with severe dithering thanks to a trash dithering algorithm and resultant fucked up HDR. it's fine for a TV. Don't use an oled for anything computing wise that is static.
Anonymous No.105844609 [Report]
>>105844486
Im gonna use it for gaming and movies and stuff. They said theres a few decent anti burn in settings on the tv that keep it from burning in super easy. I was gonna get a mini led Hisense U8 because i was worried about the burn in but i was talked out of it and into an oled.

I do want an oled because of the high end picture and contrast. So its not like i didn't want one at all.
Anonymous No.105844613 [Report] >>105844696 >>105844760
>>105844403
You did great. Don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise. Especially if this is your first oled. If you need to jailbreak to install KODI and homebrew, lemme know.
Anonymous No.105844696 [Report] >>105844735
>>105844613
Its my first oled. My current tv is a 2014 visio thats back lights are burning out so lile half the screen is 50% bright.

Its just been so overwhelming with all the different types and constant comparisons.

What would i get out of jailbreaking it? I already watch stuff from my pc hooked up to my tv so i have no issues getting any content i want.
Anonymous No.105844735 [Report] >>105844752 >>105844774
>>105844696
Playing videos natively or via a network is the best way to experience content. Videos on PC can't do motion interpolation unless you're doing spv rife etc
Anonymous No.105844752 [Report] >>105844792
>>105844735
Its better to stream to the tv than direct hdmi?
Anonymous No.105844760 [Report] >>105844771 >>105844792 >>105844848
>>105844613
>KODI
Great way to bloat WebOS, as if isn't bloated and laggy enough. Op if you want to fuck with kodi get an ugoos amb6+ and install coreelec kodi. Everything else is inferior.
Anonymous No.105844771 [Report] >>105844784
>>105844760
>kodi get an ugoos amb6+ and install coreelec kodi
Can u speak English doc
Anonymous No.105844774 [Report]
>>105844735
>motion interpolation
Ew. Pleb.
Anonymous No.105844784 [Report] >>105844795
>>105844771
Lurk moar. Learn. I had to learn to impart it to you.
Anonymous No.105844792 [Report] >>105844802 >>105844850
>>105844752
Direct HDMI to another OS other than native that cannot do what the TVOS and CPU can do; yes.
>>105844760
>skill issue
My webOS is 4GB debloated. Besides what you're recommending is weaker than the LG Alpha CPU processor.
Anonymous No.105844795 [Report]
>>105844784
You can be cool and teach a little. I could look it up but i at least need a reason to be curious enough to do that.
Anonymous No.105844802 [Report] >>105844835
>>105844792
If i plug in an external hd to the tv through hdmi would that give me a better picture than from the pc?
Anonymous No.105844835 [Report]
>>105844802
It'll be through USB. Yes, but, the native webOS media player may not be able to play certain sound formats such as DTS. You want to be able to play files in their raw format and get HDR, Dolby Vision and 4K UHD H265 bt2020 bt709 and Film Maker all the time without fail nor exception.
Anonymous No.105844848 [Report] >>105844865
>>105844760
You're recommending this ugoos amb6+ does it output 4K 120HZ-144HZ and can handle h265, mkv, 4k uhd stuff?
Anonymous No.105844850 [Report] >>105844856 >>105845002
>>105844792
>Besides what you're recommending is weaker than the LG Alpha CPU processor
Can it play Dolby FEL profile 7? No, it can't. Therefore who gives a shit. It's a kodi machine and the best at it.
Anonymous No.105844856 [Report] >>105844880
>>105844850
Yeah, sorry. I'll pass. Kodi on webOS can do that with no issues. Profile 8 and 10. Lossless. Can it handle Armbian?
Anonymous No.105844865 [Report] >>105844878 >>105845002
>>105844848
>does it output 4K
Yes.
>120HZ-144HZ
No? It's for movies and TV, not gaming. That's all kodi does. There are no content >60Hz for said medium.
>h265, mkv, 4k uhd stuff
Not only can it do all that it can also playback DVD, bluray and 4k java menus unlike trash WebOS kodi.
Anonymous No.105844878 [Report]
>>105844865
Hmm do you own one anon and what's your entire set up? I'm interested now
Anonymous No.105844880 [Report] >>105844889 >>105844897 >>105844910 >>105844926 >>105845303
>>105844856
>Lossless
You don't know what lossless means.
>Kodi on webOS can do that with no issues
No it can't. Please shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself. Profile 8 and 10 are webshit not disc tier quality.
>Can it handle Armbian
Why the fuck would it need to? It runs coreelec.
Anonymous No.105844889 [Report] >>105844911
>>105844880
Calm your little pussy down.
Anonymous No.105844897 [Report]
>>105844880
Main 10
Stop behaving so vaginal
Anonymous No.105844899 [Report] >>105845221 >>105845516
>>105830881
Anonymous No.105844910 [Report]
>>105844880
Does it trnscode PGSUB, ASS and so on?
Anonymous No.105844911 [Report] >>105844918
>>105844889
Nice audio data. What exactly are you trying to convey, retard?
Anonymous No.105844918 [Report]
>>105844911
What's your setup, anon? Do you use this thing, or no?
Anonymous No.105844926 [Report]
>>105844880
>Why the fuck would it need to? It runs coreelec.
Dual boot
Anonymous No.105845002 [Report]
>>105844865
>>105844850
anon is this really the best? They're isn't anything else better?
Anonymous No.105845221 [Report]
>>105844899
this but unironically
Anonymous No.105845303 [Report] >>105845481
>>105844880
>No it can't. Please shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Why are faggots like this? Oh, it's because they're faggots. I forgot.
Anonymous No.105845347 [Report]
>>105830881
>>105841773

i guess LEDs must kill brain worms, good for us
Anonymous No.105845481 [Report] >>105845629 >>105845664
>>105845303
>He doesn't know what LLDV or TV-led DV are
How embarrassing.
Anonymous No.105845516 [Report] >>105845559
>>105844899
what's VFD and why does it look so much better than LED
Anonymous No.105845559 [Report] >>105845763
>>105845516
Easily the coolest atom-punk display tech humanity ever came up with. Vacuum between two plates of glass, electrons emitted from back, phosphors hit on the front, in between there's a control grid, the metal wires you see.
Now they're all extinct because cheap ugly LCDs, monocolor OLEDs and garish blue LEDs. I miss vacuum tube tech so much bros.
Anonymous No.105845629 [Report]
>>105845481
what is a device kike an nVidia shield capable of doing that my 9900x with a 4080Ti can't do with regards to DV and connected to my lg c1?
Anonymous No.105845664 [Report]
>>105845481
Player LED DV is shit compared to native TV-LED DV. fuck are you trying to say?
Anonymous No.105845675 [Report] >>105845791
Oled is a disposable tech by design and a conspiracy to maintain korean duopoly. TVs that last a lifetime were problematic, just add mandatory smart functions that make them insecure after lifecycle of 5 years and make the display degrade over time. The crapacitor trick is not enough anymore and informed techies could repair it for too cheap.
Anonymous No.105845763 [Report] >>105846111
>>105845559
I love vfd so much, the dots, the grid, the color, everything is perfect.
Shame they never made bigger ones like at least 9".
Have aliexpress 40x2 one as status display for pc.
Anonymous No.105845791 [Report] >>105846114
>>105845675
>The crapacitor trick
tv manufacturers biggest trick is invention of led's that burn out after couple of years.
remember how they where saying led's are good for idk 200k hours. led backlight strips in modern tv's last like 5 years.
Anonymous No.105846101 [Report]
Copypasta'ing from /pcbg/ Amazon has a 27" 1440P@240Hz QD-OLED FOR $470 PRIME DAY & $485 FOR NON-PRIME BUYERS
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/agon-pro-ag276qzd2
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG276QZD2-Tournament-2560x1440-Compatible/dp/B0D682HF6R
This is the lowest price I've seen using price trackers for one of these class monitors since they went for $400 last Black Friday and is a sizable price cut since they had it for $570 up until yesterday (again by price tracker history).

Also it's 32" 4K bigger brother is available for $700 @ Best Buy (the catch being it's "only" 165Hz):
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-31-5-ag326ud-qd-oled-uhd-165hz-gaming-monitor-black/6617198.p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKL5q2Wf354
Anonymous No.105846111 [Report]
>>105845763
I wanted to make one for myself as well, but with a larger / graphical VFD. I had a look at prices for those things and gave up on the idea. I wrote a program for my 2006 PDA instead. Screen is obviously LCD though.
Anonymous No.105846114 [Report]
>>105845791
Because the LEDs are driven too hard and aren't kept cool enough.

If you don't run too much current through them (you can use more leds instead to achieve the same brightness) and have well designed thermals they can last a lifetime.
Anonymous No.105846118 [Report]
>>105825557
>ultrawide
yuck
Anonymous No.105846141 [Report]
>>105823406
Why are you linking a monitor that's

a) probably not even QLED
b) shitty 1440p resolution (1080p works, 1440p is terrible, should go straight to 4k, 4k wipes the floor with 1440p)
c) it's not even 27", it's 32", 32" should be for 4k (27" too, since 1440p sucks, but it does less so in 27")

Do you even monitors? How do you even come up with this shit?
Anonymous No.105846151 [Report]
>>105824679
No, only shift coming is pole shift
Anonymous No.105846200 [Report]
>>105837487
my entire family and friend circle use apple(we are rich and white) and not a single person has even the slightest hint of burn in on any of our devices

post a picture of it
Anonymous No.105846329 [Report] >>105847323
>>105826741
Didn't the C4 have an ugly green hue when viewed at an angle? No clue if they fixed that in the C5 but I go with a C35 over C4 any day of the week.

>>105828694
Personally I just stopped caring and bought an OLED for watching movies and hq content and use a 10 year old good quality (but cheap) LCD for viewing daily shit in the livingroom. Problem solved, you don't need to daily drive an OLED for everything, right tool for the job. Although I'm highly sceptical the newer OLED's will burn in as quickly as people here suggest they will.
Anonymous No.105846957 [Report]
>>105818391 (OP)
lol no
Anonymous No.105847323 [Report]
>>105846329
Just buy multiple screens bro. Lmao!