Is OLED burn in solved yet ?

>>105818391 (OP)
No it is not and it probably never will be solved.

>Xbox controller

With how the world seems to be moving to treating electronics as something that becomes junk after a few years of use... who cares? Your OLED TV that cost 2k started to go to shit after 3 years? LOL, buy a new one. You obviously had the disposable income the first time.

>>105818391 (OP)
Yes, in iPhones.

>>105818417
The reality is if you have a 144hz monitor you're good in most cases anyways. Not even the most popular titles can reliably reach that on most systems when we factor in new and modern games. It's pretty fucking sad desu that we're selling these monitors when 5090s can't even reach the performance without memegen on most new titles.

>>105818391 (OP)
it's "solved" by buying a new one every 3 years

>>105818391 (OP)
yes it's called micro led

Yes, it’s called use the maintnence functions built into your monitor and don’t run at max brightness

Use case for more than 200 nits?

>>105818391 (OP)
Not yet, but soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUA1OmXMXA

>>105818391 (OP)
I have no evidence for the assertion I am about to make.

But I think modern OLEDs might make it worse in trying to fix it. The fancy anti-burn in compensation circuits will actually accelerate the problem. This is because to maintain uniformity, they have to drive worn pixels harder, thus causing them to ware even faster resulting in runaway burn until the display is ruined. It would be better to just tolerate a slight unevenness rather than make worse by trying to compensate.

the worst part is going to be that they're going to fix it but charge you like crazy for the "fixed" version, I fucking hate them

>>105818640
Basically this. oled panels were e-waste from day one

>>105818487
>>105818611
basically this
iPhone + microLED on PC and you'll never get burn in

>>105818391 (OP)

OLED are for suckers and consoooomers. Wait for the next panel that will have all the benefits and none of the downsides.

>>105819571
meant to reply to >>105818640 on the 2nd one

>>105819571
there's no microled on pc that tech is 10 years off if ever

>>105819591
next panel is like 15 years away minimum

>>105818391 (OP)
It's impossible to solve consumption of your display. LED backlit dogshit just has color shift instead.

>>105818417
holy zoom zoom
electronics has been disposable trash forever

>>105818391 (OP)
>Is OLED burn in solved yet ?
yes, you dont buy oled and just buy an ips

>>105818391 (OP)
You can't solve it because it's an inherent property of the display tech that pixels degrade on use
You can slow it down by lower brightness, or periodically engage the mechanism that degrades all pixels to the same level but that sacrifices the life of the panel to restore uniformity

>>105818399
QLED ! Quantum Dot LED. Not the "perfect black" but suffers no burn in and shows light, brilliant colors and contrast.

dual layer lcd is the closest to oled but costs a fortune and has its own drawbacks

>>105818391 (OP)
The O in OLED stands for "organic." What's referred to as burn in is the organic component breaking down over time with heat and losing the ability to display light in that range. It's not necessarily burning like the phosphors on CRT did, though.
As such so long as there's an O in that name, it will suffer image retention eventually.
Best you can hope for is to replace it with a proper solution, like micro led, when the technology becomes available and cheap enough by the time your display starts to fail.

>>105820302
Too bad that shit is expensive as fuck

>>105820512
Normal LEDs also degrade over time with heat.
If you have a LED bulb that's a few years old, it will be dimmer than a brand new one.

>>105820545
I'm running first batch LED lights in my home, back from 2015/2016 when they hit the store shelves. I have yet to change out a single one.

>>105820635
Irrelevant. LEDs used for lighting have lots of things on their side that those stuffed into displays don't, including much better cooling and not needing to be driven as hard. Rtings' ongoing reliability test continues to see LED LCDs dropping like flies, either through outright failures or the development of severe uniformity issues as the LEDs burn themselves out at different rates.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
So pick your poison.

>>105820302
>suffers no burn
nope

>>105818650
and only play fast paced video games on them, and only for a few hours and then shut them down, also buy a new one 2 years later

>>105818391 (OP)
no they just give out 3 year warranties now for your $1000 monitor
they are also still dim as fuck because Samsung Display forces it so they don't burn in immediately
and now monitor makers are trying to come up with hacks to brighten the screens
https://youtu.be/MlqS4gLmS5E

it's still a massive meme

>>105818391 (OP)
For TVs? Yes.
For monitors? I don't know I am not stupid enough to fall for that jewery

>>105820545
The degradation for standard LED displays is a lot more uniform and a lot slower. You won't get image retention, just overall dimness, and it will take 3x as long at least.

>>105818417
Which is why I'm still using a 20 year old 32" 1080p LCD TV that I already revived once by replacing a broken diode, despite fancying a nice 55" 4K TV and having the money for it.
I simply refuse to buy engineered-to-fail garbage electronics that will be e-waste within 3 years. Fuck that whole industry.

>>105818391 (OP)
no and it's impossible to solve

>>105818391 (OP)
>that "gun"
I'm so glad I don't play AAA slop

>>105821235
>The degradation for standard LED displays is a lot more uniform
For cheap, shit displays with low peak brightness and no local dimming, sure. But then your picture quality is just garbage from day one in that case, rather than getting worse over time. LED LCDs with local dimming suffer from uneven wear the same as OLEDs, except you just get massive dark blotches on your screen instead of actual burn-in.

Your choice is pretty much buy a cheap, shit screen that'll last forever and look like shit from day one, or buy an expensive monitor that'll look amazing on day one and get progressively worse over the years.

>Buy OLED now
>In 5 years when you get a hint of burnin, there will be burnin-proof Max OLED displays
Whatever you buy now will be temporary anyway, might as well get something that looks good for the better part of a decade than something that looks bad forever.

>>105818391 (OP)
Not really, but there are enough mitigations in the firmware to make it not something to worry about unless you are trying to do it on purpose.

>>105821327
It fires small rockets, not metal cased primer fired ammunition. It's fine.

>>105820302
qled is just lcd with a misleading marketing name

>>105818391 (OP)
does it really matter what display type you get? all monitors are ugly low dpi garbage

>>105818417
Retard take. If I have to replace my stuff once every 20 years, the disposable income I need to replace it every now and then is much lower than if I have to throw shit away every 3 years.

>>105818391 (OP)
Yeah, it's called buying a new one when the problem becomes visible and starts to bother you.

>>105821356
What you posted is a lot more uniform than the burn in OLED undergoes, and like I said that you conveniently ignored, takes much longer.
LED degradation generally takes 100,000 active hours, where OLED have been observed to start at 20,000.
LCD occurs in 30k-60k hours, and I agree that those should be avoided too.

>>105818693
that is literally the opposite of how it works
a 5 second google search could have told you this

>>105820302
consoomer retard

>>105818391 (OP)
my monitor's burn in and my work burn out cancel each other out

>>105818391 (OP)
don't care, still not getting one.

>>105820802
Qled == qdoled. It doesn't get burn in it just looks bad.

>>105818391 (OP)
BROWN

>>105820523
You sure you didn't mean 'cheap as fuck'?
OLED is more expensive.

>>105819571
>microLED on PC
PC monitor is second class citizen compared to TV screen.
Hypothetically speaking, if it takes 10 years for Samsung to make a microLED TV affordable, it would take 20 years from now for a microLED monitor to even exist

>>105818417
What are you doing to your electronics?
I bought into the OLED hype in late 2022, so I have a first-gen QD-OLED as my monitor and as my TV. Both show no signs of burn-in or brightness diminishing. They are both in regular use.

>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
HDR

>>105820302
>>105823406
Nigger these are just LCDs, nobody cares

>>105824179
i dont like retinas either

>>105824409
Touch grass

>>105824576
k still not buying your hdr scam

>>105820062
isn't there some pholed or tandem shit coming?

>>105818391 (OP)
no visible burn-in on a 5 year old LG CX, 3 year old iphone 14 pro nor 1 year old AW3225QF; the latter of which i use for like 15 hours a day for mixed productivity / media / gaming
so i'd say so pretty much
sure they are going to inherently break down over time, it's just that that time might now be so long that you'll want to replace your panel anyway by the time it's noticeable

>>105818391 (OP)
>he fell for the oled meme
kekerinos

>>105821235
Not true for MicroLED displays.
It suffers from the same burn-in as OLED, just slower.

Everything organic dies.

>>105824906
>that you'll want to replace anyway
What for, aside from being forced to? Just because? As long as you buy a good panel with the res+hz+size you actually want, there shouldn't be any reason to "upgrade" until there's entirely new tech that's straight up better (might take a couple decades at this rate). Numbers go up shit like 8k and 300hz+ are things most people don't really need or want.

>>105818391 (OP)
>solves monitors in your path

>>105825308
>not ultrawide
>not high-dpi
eh

>>105825557
>not ultrawide
Meme
>not high-dpi
There's a 4K model that has more dimming zones and 1600 nit maximum brightness

>>105825308
eh
>1440p

>>105818391 (OP)
Nope, it is not.

>>105818391 (OP)
>memetech
sorry but im ips for life

>>105825557
>ultrawide
ew

i'll let you know in 2 more weeks when my c1 finally burns in
trust the plan

>>105825308
>Horrible input lag and response times with local dimming enabled

>>105826101
>Horrible made up shit

>>105820018
There are already microLED screens out there like the AOC Q27G3XMN

>>105826112

I've been looking to upgrade a 10 year old IPS monitor and apparently it's hard to get something that is a no compromise big upgrade in all dimensions. Unless you shell something like 2-3k for a professional grade shit.

>>105826196
>horrible input lag
>show absolutely average input lag for lcd panels

>>105818403
the best

>>105826272
If you want an OLED but don't want to break bank be on the lookout for a LG C4 or C5 42 inch OLED TV. 144hz with g-sync and freesync. Similar DPI to 27 inch 1440p monitors.
A monitor would be nicer of course, but you can find these things for like 650 - 700 around black friday and in the spring/early summer when the new model is released. Don't have to connect it to the internet, and there is a setting that makes it always have the HDMI input active so you don't have to touch the remote unless you want to go change image settings or something.

>>105826741
I'll consider this.

>>105826272
>professional grade
are you a fucking artist workign with color on your shit ass 60hz screen?
you could be using a 240hz or a 165hz tv calibrated for 1/3rd the cost and 99% better for general use
LMAO

>>105818391 (OP)
Refer to the first rule of oled
OLED IS NOT. FOR. POORFAGS.

>>105824935
Source?

>>105818417
Cost me $800 on black friday, it's 4 years old going on 5. If you can't afford $160 a year then you might as well kill yourself.

>>105827397
Intellectually destitute and/or shill

>>105818650
Dude even my cheap asrock woled has auto dimming and pixel cleaning it really is just a bunch of dumb niggers flapping their gums ITT

>>105824179
HDR will autoactivate on media that supports it. And it's not meant to burn out your eyeballs with constant brightness across 100% of the screen. It's variable. Most HDR films I watched rarely if ever have scenes that turn the brightness up on the entire screen to the point I find it uncomfortable.

>>105818391 (OP)
never was an issue
this >>105820124
just buy a new one in 10 years when it finally shows burn in

>>105828316
>just a bunch of dumb niggers flapping their gums
Yes, hello, welcome to /g/! I hope you're enjoying your first day here. :)

Physically it's not something that gets solved.
It's just you can mitigate it, and people have, and successfully use these for a good amount of time. Displays don't cease to function either with the amount of burn-in that's not noticeable, btw. But you don't spend a fortune on one of these. You first make enough money where OLED isn't such a big expense, so that in a few years you might upgrade. There's also warranty that covers burn-in.
In my honest opinion, I'd very much rather have 3 years of OLED over 15 of LCD at this point.

>>105823406
Oh yeah like, $100 more expensive. Get real, who the fuck is going to buy an $500 IPS monitor at this point?

>>105818391 (OP)
No but you'll get every sunken cost faggot telling you that yes it is just never ever use it and baby it 24x7 and feed it your milkies and you'll get 2 years out of it if you're lucky. It's all part of the great replacement theory to make more consumables and reduce longevity of all goods.
>but muh inky blacks
Shutuup you faggot nigger

>>105828694
I've been using mine with a light theme, taskbar always on, web browsing 75% of the time, at around 8 to 10 hours every day for almost a year now. You fell for a bigger meme than I did.

>>105818391 (OP)
It's solved by buying a new one but they're 3-4x the price of a "regular" gaming monitor

>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
Image quality

>>10582392
>worksonmymachine™
Ah here's one of these retards I spoke of in denial that their organic diodes are immortal and not sucumable to the whims of entropy. Fascinating solipsism. Why does every yank (yes I can tell) suffer from survivorship bias? Is it American exceptionalism and individualism? I don't get it.

>>105820018
>there's no microled on pc that tech is 10 years off if ever
X isn't coming sweaty! Buy Y (muh fragile oled) now or miss out! Lmao

>>105824906
>mixed productivity
Lmao

>>105828757
>I'm not shilling display technology, you're shilling display technology!

>>105826101
>Horrible input lag
Imperceptible input lag aka means horrible, apparently. Bar bigger = horrible! How do you tie your shoes in the morning being this retarded?

>>105826741
>Just use a 42" fucking TV bro
>Just deal with RWBG layouts bro
RGB FOREVER

>>105828723
O R G A N I C
R
G
A
N
I
C

you can't stop what's coming — that's vanity.
Let me guess: American? Lmao.

>>105828887
damn, projecting nationalities now? don't you have a president to complain about?

>>105829040
Don't you have a taskbar to be babying lest you might have to admit to your sunken cost in a brittle and fragile technology your fomo was too weak to resist?

>>105829072
Boy, you sure know how to read.

>>105820302
Literally the same black levels as standard LCD. The colors a bit nicer, but that's it.

>>105828757
oh please do tell me or show me any evidence that microled will magically overcome its problems anytime soon. if they were anywhere near doing do the press wouldnt stfu about it you shit eating moron

>>105828887
I can smash it on the ground and get a replacement for another couple of years anon. I don't know why you are salty when by the time these are dead getting a replacement with the same specs will be cheap and a better more sustainable format will be realized in the market by now.

>>105818391 (OP)
Never owned an OLED screen but how is this considered a problem when it's hard to do on purpose? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kPsKyF5bQ
Is it just the uncomfortable feeling that it might happen eventually? I get that with my phone screen sometimes

>>105818403
That's the best one though

>>105828860
For me 42" is minimum but I use a 48"

LEDs have been a disaster for humans

>>105830881
>oled screen filter overlay low brightness masterrace

>>105818391 (OP)
Yes, it's called buying a new one every few years if it bothers you.
If you don't like it just buy LCD.
You're also ignoring the elephant in the room that is IPS bleed being worse than OLED burn in after a few years.

>>105824409
Reflected light outside regularly hits 10k nits and you don't even notice.

>>105830910
yes i do notice and i look away or put the shades down
it's not even remotely close to a point of comparison you absolute brainlet

>>105826101
>How to tell someone is a Macfag without directly saying it, the post.

you can google "[model name] burn in" on images and get results for any monitor thats been on market for more than a year

the copes are

>its actually solved this time! just buy a new one ;)
>what are you poor saar? in america we do thing big money style baby we buying new monitor every year like white man
>just use it 20 minutes at a time not in direct sunlight with lowest brightness settings and refresh rate and only buy this particular brand and you can reduce burn in from 1 year to 3

oled tech is subsidized and shilled so hard because its environmentaly friendly.

its not even a significant improvement unless you turn the brightness up, which makes them burn in multiple times faster

liek everything else on 4chan its half advertisements and thats why people are so aggressive about OLED. who gives a shit otherwise

>>105831437
oled looks majestic at low brightness and shits on ips in every significant manner

>>105831577
cool but ive used both and theyre similar enough for it to not matter. except the ips doesnt start burning in within half a year

in fact the biggest thing i noticed when i unboxed my oled was how hard reading text was. it was pretty unimpressive

>>105831631
>theyre similar enough for it to not matter
how does being a blind luddite feel?

>>105826164
That's mini LED. microLED means subpixels are individual LEDs. The concept of dimming zones isn't applicable.

>>105830228
It doesn't have to. IPS and VA win by not doing anything.

>>105831577
Doesn't PWM eyestrain affects OLED moreso than other IPS panel due to individually lit light?
That's a big yike with low brightness

>>105831577
>oled
>majestic
>low brightness
Lmao cope after cope after cope! Muh 500 nits in a 6.9*10^‐20٪ window is enough for me bro!

>>105831577
Except dynamic range from 1-255 and color rendition.

>>105831730
i must CONSOOOOM youtuber GREEN TECHHHHHHH

its still REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!!!

>>105832247
The youtuber has one i can't miss out REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>105826196
>Yeah dude, three frames of lag, not horrible at all
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.

It does bother me when I can tell a movie or TV show is graded for HDR because the SDR version has bad tonemapping. I notice it especially when the SDR version has raised blacks because they're filming more and more dark scenes with natural lighting these days. Or they're grading low brightness scenes to lower nits and assuming everyone owns an OLED TV. So maybe HDR is a meme but it still affects the content I consoom.

>>105818391 (OP)
doubt it's totally fixed but i've had mine for 3 years and haven't seen any yet, and i use it for desktop use >8 hours a day at max brightness

>>105818391 (OP)
>Is gravity solved yet?

>>105828417
oleds have no real real HDR thanks to ABL

>>105828417
HDR displays cap total screen brightness so they don't overheat

>>105832841
can you elaborate a bit like what monitor you have ? i want to get an oled monitor and even found one that i think seems great but im terribly afraid of burn in. I spend a lot of time in a web browser, phtoshop/premiere and other programs that have static UI elements. I game and watch movies/tv too but a lot of the screen time is spent on the former.

>>105830881
Based crt monitor anon

I got a 100$ (expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees) Chinese panel advertised by some moderately serious channels (they at least had latency measuring devices and knew what they were talking about).

It's the best experience I had thus far, genuinely ~4-5ms G2G out of the box, 1100:1 IPS, no issue whatsoever, true 8 bit panel so no FRC, highest gamut coverage there is, on the same level with expensive Oled panels (although useless for me as I've calibrated and clamped it to sRGB).
It's only 165hz but I keep it on 120hz mode as I don't need more.

>>105832777
TV shows are graded for the HLG curve and the brightness so to speak, it'll be merely a tad darker on a SDR mode/display - because reference white signal strength is at different levels. Basically outside of having the HLG and the SDR image side-by-side you couldn't tell.

>>105833026
LG C2 42, though I think their 32 inch monitor uses a similar panel, if I were buying now I'd probably go with that instead. i also have a browser open most of the time, static UI elements haven't burned in for me at all even though i don't really bother to move windows around periodically, often have windows in 1 spot for hours at a time. only thing i really do to prevent burn-in anymore is have a cycling wallpaper and auto-hide the taskbar

>>105824615
It's still not as retina-searingly bright as the daylit grass you should be touching, though.

>>105832167
IPS has better dynamic range and color rendition than OLED? If so, do you know if IPS does those 2 things better than TN and/or VA?
>>105832777
>they're filming more and more dark scenes with natural lighting these days
Have you noticed a trend in decolorization and/or desaturation in movies and/or TV shows past 2010?
>>105833019
Do you recall where you learned that?

>>105818650
>Yeah bro you just need to babysit the fuck out of it so it doesn't become e-waste in a year
Not really doing a good job of selling it for me

>>105818391 (OP)
Fast VA monitors bought on taobao have better blacks than US IPS and is a better option.

Anyone saying that OLED isn't a massive upgrade over IPS/CRT/miniLED is a poorfag coping
OLED is literally in a league of its own, especially for HDR, and if you post
>its almost the same bro, trust me
You have either never seen an OLED panel in person, or are neck deep in copium

>>105833816
>I got a 100$ (expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees) Chinese panel
Which?
>some moderately serious channels (they at least had latency measuring devices and knew what they were talking about)
Do you have links?
>>105834459
>Fast VA monitors bought on Taobao
Have you noticed smearing, ghosting, input lag, and/or gamma shift on them?

>>105818391 (OP)
>Is OLED burn in solved yet ?
It's "solved" in that only people who afford new monitors every 4 years are buying OLED.

>>105824906
LG C2 for 2 years endless productivity on premiere pro and lots of WoW and Sc2 from time to time and still going strong

>>105830881
What is wrong with aluminiun foil?

>>105834126
k have going blind retard

>>105834524
koorui 24e3 I believe

>>105832167
k so you're just going to make shit up to defend your trash monitor. well oled cures cancer checkm8 ipsfaggot>>105832247

>bro QOLED is the solution
>bro microLED is the solution
>bro miniLED is the solution
AAAAH I'M GOING INSANE

>>105834867
>have going
I'm evidently not the one who has to worry about going blind.

>>105834957
yeah i typed fun but it didnt register guess i should spend time proofreading my funposts...nah

>>105834880
>koorui 24e3
Have you noticed IPS bleed and/or bloom? Do you recall why you went with that brand?

>>105834906
microled is the solution tho

>>105834974
See, if you would've gotten your retinas /fit/ with HDR, you would've caught your mistake. Look at me, I stare directly at the sun for 15 minutes each day and fire Watt-power lasers directly into my eyes as part of my morning routine, and as a result, I can see into the 4th dimension.

>>105834985
Yes I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, failed the lottery, not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination. Otherwise the panel is perfectly uniform with no issues. It has some very tight screws on each side and those probably cause it.
Bloom? No 0 but I never saw it on a IPS panel outside of those with regional backlight.

I went with it solely because it was good measurement data in reviews lol. It has HKC SN238CS04-1 (8bit) which is considered a good panel.

>>105835031
lel
yeah ive looked into sun gazing i dont buy it but if it works for you who knows? im still not gonna do it

>>105834985
Yes, I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, which failed the lottery and is not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination. Otherwise, the panel is perfectly uniform with no issues. It has some very tight screws on each side, and those probably cause the issue.
Bloom? No 0 but I never saw it on an IPS panel outside of those with regional backlight.

I went with it solely because it was good measurement data in reviews lol. It has HKC SN238CS04-1 (8bit) which is considered a good panel.

(should put my posts more often trough auto correct, takes a second lol)

>>105834906
all of those require a VA panel for the contrast, so none of them are a serious "Solution"

>>105824615
You don't understand HDR. Luminance is a core component of accurately reproducing colors.

This all depends on your display. I don't know of any released displays that can do HDR justice, since MicroLED isn't out.

OLEDs can't do HDR properly, their sustained and peak nits suck because they auto dim so they don't burn out, but they can do the true low black levels.

MiniLED can do high peak nits, and sustain a high level for longer (they all still auto dim depending on how much of the screen is reaching it's peak nit range afaik). VA panels might have better contrast ratio, I haven't seen one in person. I only know of the Falcon whatever the fuck. Most good MiniLEDs are in China.

HDR True Black is not a gimmick. Contrast is incredibly important. Contrast ratio > peak nits of a display.
Independent lighting of scenes without having to drop or raise the brightness level of the entire scene allows more color variance, quality and reducing banding with lower bit depth.
Non-HDR displays fake luminance through color mixing, HDR lets you directly adjust luminance levels.
HDR as a standard enforces bit depth and color gamuts.

>>105835091
Fuck I fell for another illusion.
Anyway this one is epic because it empirically proves to each individual the power of intentionality, everyone should realize that there are experiments that go further and we know that we can push our intentionality trough individual hemispheres if we wanted to.

>>105835091
im not and never will use hdr my guy its a gimmick and i dont care

>>105835119
Know what would open the mind of most people? If they had a 1000:1 monitor, calibrated it to gamma 2.2 (like their phones) and watched it in pitch darkness.
Then looked at their phone again which is like ridiculously high contrast but with the same gamma... they would quickly realize they look for all intents and purposes, the exact same in perceived contrast.
Next level for day time illusion is to peel the coating from your monitor.

>>105835091
I forgot to mention backlight zones, and dimming algorithms for MiniLEDs. I don't want to write anymore, but they're important too per monitor as they can greatly affect blooming. Blooming tends to be an issue on small highlights like stars and fireworks.

I saw noticeable blooming on my 1152 dimming zones playing Dead Space when I was in basically pitch black areas from the RIG lights on your spine that show your HP

>>105835119
The picture in my post literally shows you why HDR is good, but you can stick your head in the sand if you want.

>>105835139
i dont watch tv or movies really hdr on desktop and smartphones is pants on head retarded. enjoy burning your retinas out

>>105835070
>I have a tiny amount of IPS bleed on the leftmost side of the panel, [...] is not disturbing or meaningful by any stretch of the imagination
You don't notice it unless you're looking for it? How's the input lag (real-time gaming and desktop use)? How's the motion clarity for games and media? Have you noticed smearing, ghosting, and/or color banding?

>>105835186
>How's the input lag (real-time gaming and desktop use)?
In like top 1-2% of all panels without overdrive.
Motion clarity is a function of refresh rate and your fps given the sample and hold nature.
It has no strobing.
It has 0 panel uniformity or technical issues, yes ofc you would have banding if you had a high bitrate image, it's a native 8 bit panel and I force disable dithering at the driver level.
As for its g2g response time, already told you that it's measured around 4-5ms out of the box without ghosting issues, no smearing either because it's extremely fast and within its all refresh rates, even the 165hz mode.

>>105832150
This...right...fucking...here. PWM is a dealbreaker for me. Either you raise the PWM hz and get your retinas boiled out. Or you lower the PWM hz and stare at a strobe light all day.

>>105835213
at overdrive you get ridiculously low g2g but a tiny bit of inverse ghosting

>>105835091
>their sustained and peak nits suck because they auto dim so they don't burn out
or you could, you know, use your monitor at a sane brightness level and disable auto dimming

>>105835242
but dude bros need their monitors at blinding 300-400 nits, if it doesn't feel like the sun directly reflecting on white walls it's not a true PC experience...

>>105835231
this is true for smartphones mostly not for tvs and monitors. idk why samsung is such trash but we have them to thank for the dogshit pwm oled panels

>>105835146
>enjoy burning your retinas out


You set the paper white nits level (200 nits is ITU-R BT.2408 white reference) which controls the base luminance (anchor) of scenes depending on your viewing environment and tone mapping works off this. You can choose where to cap your peak nits.


Everything is relative and you are in control, you are creating problems in your head that don't exist.

>>105835242
Not everyone sits in a fully light controlled room. See above.
A friend of mine bought an OLED for his dad, and had to return it because their living room has too much natural light. The TV was unusable during the day because the display was so dim. It couldn't overcome glare and other issues.

>>105818399
MicroLED

>>105835302
hdr needs to hit high nits to display correctly. problem is high nits burns your retinas. problems for you not me bye.

>>105818403
some games were meant to be played on controller.
cyberpunk is not one of them, unless for driving.

>>105818650
>Use case for more than 200 nits?
I don't live in a cave. My room has windows and I love sun. OLEDs are unusable in a well lit environment.

>>105835256
Its definitely true for smartphones and absolutely true for tv's. I had ended up returning the S23 Ultra due to insane PWM as well shitcanning a middle-higher end non-oled 55" LG tv due to PWM issues. I literally just gave the one year old 55" LG to one of the mexican deliverymen that delivered the Sony I replaced it with. That's how much I hate PWM.

I bought the pg27ucdm, how badly did I fuck up?

I really like it for games like Rust, mainly what i have been playing recently.

>>105832150
>PWM eyestrain
>>105835231
>PWM is a deal-breaker for me
>>105835256
>we have them to thank for the [...] PWM OLED panels
>>105835362
>I hate PWM
https://ledstrain.org/

>>105835313
No it doesn't. HDR True black standard exists for a reason.

OLED and backlit displays are rated to different standards because backlit displays can't do true black like an OLED. Nits therefore need to be higher on IPS, VA, whatever panels to reach the needed contrast ratio.

Humans perceive brightness contrasts from dark the most. 25 to 50 nits is more noticeable than 700 nits to 900. Mapping from true black gives you the best HDR.
Pixel controlled luminance in MicroLED fixes this, because they can reach a reasonable nit level with infinite contrast ratio.

Like I said, no panels can do HDR justice right now.

>>105835385
k idgaf about a panel that doesnt exist for a gimmick i dont use
>>105835362
oled tvs do not use pwm at least not lg's. the smartphone problem is all samsungs fault. you can get around smartphone pwm if your display doesnt use hdr or u have root. hdr really is the most cancerous bullshit ever invented

>>105835385
what about those $20k sony color grading monitors? they're TFT LCDs

>>105835382
>https://ledstrain.org/

This actually looks relevant.
Thanks fren.

>>105823418
>buy TV
>connect computah
>IMPOSSSIBLE YOU CANT DO THAT - you
Embarrassing. Consider suicide.

>>105835423
I don't work in A/V so I don't know for sure, but from my understanding it's because they need to be able to pan/hold stills in HDR without auto brightness limiting kick in and it needs to be usable in all imaginable scenarios.


Higher nits means the monitor can do higher 100% sustained white scenes for longer, if your monitor doesn't let you do your work with reference brightness because it's dimming and can't hold the nits of a scene that you've paused in a color grading program/video editor/whatever it's not useful. OLED literally can't do this.

>...for practical purposes the 1000 spec is the minimum spec required for grading of HDR video content. However, at the 1000 level, the full-screen performance requirement under long duration testing is only 600cd/m2. Thus, if while editing the display pauses on a large flash of light that drives the display beyond the performance level that it can sustain for more than the 2-second flash requirement, the display may dim to a level below the video signal being sent to the display and thus no longer accurately represent the video signal. As a video content editor grading the content, adjustments to increase the luminance at this point will not be shown on the screen because a DisplayHDR-1000 display could be power-limited.

>>105835521
they're referring to dual layer lcd these are broadcast production quality monitor they cost like $20k each and have nothing to do with oled

>>105834511
>OLED is literally in a league of its own
It better be because it costs 2-3x more.

>>105835369
As a gamer I would never buy a 27 inch monitor. Also I never found a good cheap 27 inch panel, the only halfway decent ones broke the bank.

>>105835537
The question is quoting a reply about contrast ratio and how self emitting and back lit displays are graded differently because contrast matters. Why else would they be asking about why the monitors are specifically using LCDs? I'm not a mind reader.

Because you can't do reference work on a display that doesn't let you view reference.

>>105835573
wasn't sure you were aware of what dual layer lcd is based on your response.
moving on..
>tandem OLED

>>105835572
>As a gamer, I would never buy a 27 inch monitor
Too small? Or too large?

>>105835605
Too large.

>>105835597
I don't work in those fields so I don't want to make concrete claims and spread misinformation, I've never read too deeply into it. HDR autism is already bad enough that it scares away normal people from understanding and using it.

Anyway, I thought 1,000 and 4,000 nits are what's typically mastered for. I don't know of any OLED displays, even dual layer ones that can reach 4000 nits sustained. If someone does know more about the industry side of it and wants to share that'd be cool.

>>105835655
well supposedly a four stack rgb tandem oled hits 4000 nits not sure about sustained. i dont care enough about hdr to make better understanding of the jargon it requires.

>>105818399
microLED does, inorganic LED basically

>>105836051
2 more weeks

>>105836106
you can already buy it it just costs a gorillion dollars

I maintain my OLEDs by not being an over the top moron. When I'm browsing and watching invidious/freetube videos and shit posting I keep my 42" C4 to the lowest brightness that's just right for my eyes and viewing. I only turn up the brightness when I'm playing vidya. Even then it depends on the game. Like when I'm playing Octopath Traveler 2 or Dragon Quest III HD-2D remake, I don't crank up the brightness, because it's not necessary and those games look really good at the settings I have them. Elden Ring, or Anno 1800, I may turn up the brightness a bit, still, nothing past 80 brightness, 85 Contrast.

Owner of a 55 inch CX, C1x2 (55 and 65 inch) 80 inch A90J and a 42 inch C4. NONE of them have burn in and I use all of them at varying intervals and they ALL receive similar if not the same level of care. Of course usage varies. I'm on the C4 more than the others. The one that is least used is the A90J. The C4 and CX are used simultaneously sometimes, when I'm gaming and watching a show on my jellyfin server. Like right now, I'm playing vidya and watching Black Sails. I have 0 plans on buying another oled anytime soon and I got ALL of my OLEDs FREE! Because I know the game OLED manufacturers play, with the incremental "improvements" and "forced obsolescence". All my LG OLEDs are jailbroken and I have 2 service menu remotes to maintain them.

>>105827397
>tv
kill yourself spyware shill

>>105818487
>>105819571
horseshit, i use the AOD and when looking at a grey screen i can see the widgets from my lock screen very slightly. it's not enough for me to give a fuck since i'm trading it in next year anyway but it's not "solved".

>>105834745
aluminium is a neurotoxin

>>105833816
>expensive in EU due to high taxes and import fees
don't buy american slop, get it directly from China via a reputable vendor, it's a lot cheaper that way

>>105835570
>It better be because it costs 2-3x more.
my oled cost 48" oled monitor cost 800, my 43" va monitor cost 1200.

>>105818391 (OP)
"just don't use it as much" and "just buy another one LOL" are the current solutions

>>105835462
>buy TV
>connect computah
enjoy getting spied on 24/7

>>105818391 (OP)
No, just bring back the fucking CRTs already and move onto non-organic solutions. If tape drives had so much potential left in them, so do the tubes.

>>105821807
Colossal waste of money and earth resources

>>105837519
it's the same price if I buy it from a local shop or import it over a month from China myself and manually pay the VAT on top + fees.

>>105834511
I know it looks better. Im just scared of burn in from games ui since i game all the time. So im fonna get a mini led

>>105837743
not true, speaking from experience
don't buy american shit or have them as intermediaries, they double the price every fucking time

>>105834906
Micro literally is the solution. Its the next gen of oled. Its just $100,000 currently.

>>105836943
See i dont wanna think about this. I dont wanna be worried that my settings arent just right and my screen accidentally gets damaged by USING IT.

>>105836943
Paying the tax just to parent your display fucking lmao

>>105836959
>NONE of them have burn-in
This is physically impossible you retarded fucking faggot.

>>105837781
>Its just $100,000 currently.
It's not. Only if you want something like 89 inch. The jews won't sell anything smaller yet.

>>105837920
If an 89" is $100,000 than a 65 is probably only $50,000. Theyre practically giving it away

>>105837920
there's small screens going for $10-15k now, block panels that you put together to make larger displays

>>105837774
your experience is invalid, what do Americans have to do with this btw?
you've interjected to randomly complain about America in a post about a product purchased by an European inside Europe

>>105838092
what brand did you buy again?

>>105818391 (OP)
I scratched the surface and I decided to not buy a second monitor, eventhough I want one, am I in the wrong?

>>105837655
The phosphors and cathodes in CRTs degrade over time as well, you dumb asshole. They can also get burn-in just like OLEDs.

>>105818391 (OP)
I keep seeing people recommending OLED TVs like the C4 instead of OLED monitors because of Windows' shitty HDR implementation. Any reason not to get a 42" OLED TV for this purpose? Text used to look like shit on old LCD and CRT TVs.

>>105838246
only 42? Get a 70+ dood

>>105838282
Nah. I have a 32" VA monitor right now and that's plenty big enough. 42" would be substantial as-is.

>>105838291
that's beginner boomer levels, you're a pathetic geriatric

>>105836943
>maintain
imagine paying 3x just so you can carefully maintain usage lmaoao

my monitor started having these weird subtle horizontal lines very obvious on blacks and grays. its not the cables or my graphics card, is it done for?

>>105838246
The C4 is better than any OLED monitor, but 42" is just too big for most people to use as a computer monitor. If it's not a problem for you, go for it. Of course, at such a size you're also giving up pixel density, so text and such won't look as crisp as on a smaller display.

>>105838369
viewsonic?

>>105838378
pixel density? That sounds coummunist, just need me some big ass TV

>>105838429
lenovo, i want to know if its done for so i can throw this piece of shit in the trash and get closure.

>>105838369
>>105838453
is he alright?

>>105838378
42 is as small as they go. I don't know - I'll think about it. Something might improve yet.

>>105838194
>what brand did you buy
Koorui.
>>105838369
>my monitor started having these weird subtle horizontal lines; very obvious on blacks and grays
Try going here, and see if you can notice a horizontal line on the top bar (in the middle). Where it says:
>URL, IP address, domain or file hash
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload
If you can see a line, that might be color banding. If so, do you recall the GPU's age?

>>105838378
couldn't you just place the screen like an extra 10-30cm away from you?

>>105838485
Not if you're nearsighted and/or lack the desk space.

>>105838484
bot moment

>>105838484
>Koorui
accounting for parameters the best I could, Philips seems to be cheaper (European brand BTW)

>>105838708
NTA and both apply to me, so I only have a singular 32" 1080p monitor with enlarged fonts. Kwin does a decent enough job so I don't even need a second monitor.

>>105838753
Which part?
>>105838831
>a singular 32" 1080p monitor with enlarged fonts
Do you know if you feel satisfied? Or could you use more?

>>105838904
I know it's enough because I had the opportunity to use a second monitor at a previous job, and after some trial I just disconnected it because it was harder to concentrate on two displays so the second one just went unused after a while.

>>105838952
>32" 1080p
Text is crisp and scales well? Images don't look too large or fuzzy?

>>105838904
>Try going here, and see if you can notice a horizontal line on the top bar (in the middle). Where it says:
>>URL, IP address, domain or file hash
>https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload
>If you can see a line, that might be color banding. If so, do you recall the GPU's age?
you really thought this is the most efficient way to show case a problem?

>>105838977
I left display scaling at 1x, I only enlarged the fonts and set font antialiasing to grayscale with slight hinting. What can I say, linux master race!

>>105838792
>Philips seems to be cheaper (European brand BTW)
Taiwanese really. Philips sold their display business to TP Vision wholesale over a decade ago. They just pay for the right to use the Philips name because nobody wants a TP Vision-branded TV or monitor.

>>105839190
That's a common arrangement but it doesn't really change anything.

>>105838977
You're asking if text is crisp at 32 inch 1080p?

Is this a joke?

>>105818503
What are you even talking about, midrange GPUs could easily handle the best games such as Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake 3 Arena etc at 8k 240Hz. The limit is digital interfaces (HDMI, DisplayPort), cables and monitors not keeping up. Inb4
>we were talking about modern AAA slop, not actual good games

>>105840859
pic related, the most popular game on Steam. You literally need a 4k240Hz screen to max it out.

>>105830881
Every time I see one of these kinds of pics, I can't help but ask what are you actually supposed to do to detoxify/heal from this stuff? You simply cannot avoid everything in pic rel consistently so there has to be a way to cleanse the body instead of relying on preventative measures

>>105840888
nta cs2 is horribly unoptimized and an all around shit game

Yeah it's solved, it doesn't happen anymore

>1 year since i bought my oled
>~3200h screen on time
wonder how it will look when i get to 10000h

>>105840963
>You simply cannot avoid everything in pic rel consistently

>>105841110
going amish looks better every day

>>105840963
>what are you actually supposed to do to detoxify/heal from this stuff?
While there are a myriad of ways, this might be one. If you have health questions, /x/ is friendly to those kinds of threads.

>>105840963
>>105841211
As far as I'm aware, this is the latest version of my binding detox agent guide. Some additions and/or corrections: for scooping, ceramic is also viable. And maybe glass. For closing the Heiltropfen container, don't bend the lid to get rid of excess air while sealing it. I ripped a lid that way. It took a while though. If you have hardcore, autistic, OCD tendencies, try not to indulge them for this. A flat surface or your other hand while pushing down (repeatedly while going around the edge until you don't hear and/or feel any clicks) on the lid with a small hump at the center of the lid due to excess air is fine. And should be left at that. As far as remineralization goes, that might be optional. If you don't notice your spine hurting while stooping (when it normally doesn't), you might be fine. But if you do need to remineralize, Celtic sea salt can be added to the list. I use the one by Selina Natural. It's possible the site for the 1st link in the post was taken down after it was shared on /x/. Which might be a common occurrence for some sites that, I assume, cover forbidden topics.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38231733/#q38231904
>You can try a binding detox agent

>>105837881
faggot little bitch mad that he's poor and can't afford an OLED

>>105838314
I get my OLEDs free, faggot

>>105840963
>>105841211
>>105841423
I forgot to mention pullulan is synthesized from black mold fermentation. So if you wanna play it safe and need a vegetarian or vegan alternative to gelatin capsules, tapioca capsules should work. But as far as I'm aware, it's rare that a company will use those. So if you wanna go the vegetarian or vegan capsule route, you may need to make your own. Which'll require you to get a capsule machine. What I've been doing lately is use one of those 16 oz Fiji water bottles from Costco. I'll find one (a serving one that no one drinks from) that's already open and isn't filled up too much. Then I'll use a funnel (it might be a KitchenAid one with a rubber tip) to add a scoop of zeolite powder. Then add more Fiji water while aiming for the powder in the funnel. I fill it up to a comfortable level before it gets near to overflowing (make sure to compensate for the funnel tip). Then I start refrigerating it. Chilled zeolite water is more palatable. I started with 1/4 teaspoon. It took me 8 bottles with 1/4 teaspoon in each from around May 25 to July 3 until it seemed my body (potentially) communicated with me (it felt like 1/4 was too watered down and not bulky enough) it was ready to graduate from 1/4. So I've been adding 1/3 teaspoon per bottle lately. I sometimes give a small amount of zeolite water to the cats by adding it to their wet food. Zeolite is supposed to be good for bringing animals back from the brink. As far as I'm aware, it should be safe for dogs and cats. Don't give them too much nor too often so their colons don't get clogged. Give them a rest if you notice their appetite goes down. It's possible I saved a cat's life with zeolite water. Twice. While I'm guessing it's safe for mammals, just make sure to do a safety check first with your preferred search engine. Example: zeolite cat. Lately, I've been using the <20μm one from Heiltropfen.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38231733/#q38232053
>For the Heiltropfen zeolite

>>105840963
First of all, make sure there's nothing fucking you up big time, like choking yourself to death in your sleep by snoring. Get an app and log to see if you're snoring at night. Consider if you need a CPAP, or just don't be obese lol.

Get a standard check up with a blood panel to rule out any external issues.

Don't drink coffee past early noon. You might not feel it, but it still binds to receptors in your brain and takes a while to wash out. Google it's half life.
Dark chocolate and green, black tea especially have their own chemical variants like caffeine. idk more about that.

Wake up at the same time every day. Even on weekends. Your circadian rhythm ties into your endocrine system which releases chemical messengers like cortisol or melatonin to tell your body to wake up or to get sleepy.

When you wake up, go outside for a little bit to get direct sunlight. If you can't do that get a lamp that tries to emulate the good spectrum of sunlight. Be careful of china chink shit that blasts you with cancer UV spectrums. ( https://optimizeyourbiology.com/light-therapy-lamp-database ) Or make your own. The website has a guide for that too.

Don't take absurd doses of melatonin if you're using it for sleep aid, microgram doses are just as effective from the current studies. (300mcg to 900 mcg)

If you need to use melatonin to fix your circadian rhythm take mg doses 3-5 hours before your target bed time. Your brain will adapt to this after a week or two. DO NOT take melatonin too late at night, because you will fuck your sleep even harder.

I take sucrosomial magnesium to avoid magnesium shits. Sucrosomial supplements absorb way more efficently and some of them don't risk causing imbalances of stuff in your body. Sucrosomial zinc for example afaik doesn't cause copper deficines like normal zinc supplements would.

>>105842236
Don't be fat. Seriously, being fat for you is bad for your body in all types of ways that I don't want to type. It's an exhausting list.

Exercise, it will help you fall asleep at night and is just good for mental health through chemicals it releases. Obviously makes you healthier too if you do the right things. Google it.

Use a proper blue light filter software that goes down to low k temperatures and lets you adjust brightness. (windows night light sucks and basically only f.lux has real tuning. f.lux has it's issues but there's no real alternatives) If you have DDC/CI monitors, you can use software to directly control brightness on the hardware side.

Don't use screens 1-2 hours before bed, and dim your lighting temperature and lumens.

Don't do anything in your bedroom besides sleeping and sex or wanking. You're subconsciously priming your brain if you doom scroll in bed.

>>105826575
>>105830722
8bitdo, Switch 2 Pro controller and dualsense is better than this dogshit backward controller

>>105825308
>Local dimming algo either causes blooming or dim highlights
Solves fuck all.

Just bought a 65" lg c4 oled. Gonna pick it up tomorrow. Tell me how i screwed up

>>105844403
It's a c4 woled mla rather than tandem c5 trash with severe dithering thanks to a trash dithering algorithm and resultant fucked up HDR. it's fine for a TV. Don't use an oled for anything computing wise that is static.

>>105844486
Im gonna use it for gaming and movies and stuff. They said theres a few decent anti burn in settings on the tv that keep it from burning in super easy. I was gonna get a mini led Hisense U8 because i was worried about the burn in but i was talked out of it and into an oled.

I do want an oled because of the high end picture and contrast. So its not like i didn't want one at all.

>>105844403
You did great. Don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise. Especially if this is your first oled. If you need to jailbreak to install KODI and homebrew, lemme know.

>>105844613
Its my first oled. My current tv is a 2014 visio thats back lights are burning out so lile half the screen is 50% bright.

Its just been so overwhelming with all the different types and constant comparisons.

What would i get out of jailbreaking it? I already watch stuff from my pc hooked up to my tv so i have no issues getting any content i want.

>>105844696
Playing videos natively or via a network is the best way to experience content. Videos on PC can't do motion interpolation unless you're doing spv rife etc

>>105844735
Its better to stream to the tv than direct hdmi?

>>105844613
>KODI
Great way to bloat WebOS, as if isn't bloated and laggy enough. Op if you want to fuck with kodi get an ugoos amb6+ and install coreelec kodi. Everything else is inferior.

>>105844760
>kodi get an ugoos amb6+ and install coreelec kodi
Can u speak English doc

>>105844735
>motion interpolation
Ew. Pleb.

>>105844771
Lurk moar. Learn. I had to learn to impart it to you.

>>105844752
Direct HDMI to another OS other than native that cannot do what the TVOS and CPU can do; yes.
>>105844760
>skill issue
My webOS is 4GB debloated. Besides what you're recommending is weaker than the LG Alpha CPU processor.

>>105844784
You can be cool and teach a little. I could look it up but i at least need a reason to be curious enough to do that.

>>105844792
If i plug in an external hd to the tv through hdmi would that give me a better picture than from the pc?

>>105844802
It'll be through USB. Yes, but, the native webOS media player may not be able to play certain sound formats such as DTS. You want to be able to play files in their raw format and get HDR, Dolby Vision and 4K UHD H265 bt2020 bt709 and Film Maker all the time without fail nor exception.

>>105844760
You're recommending this ugoos amb6+ does it output 4K 120HZ-144HZ and can handle h265, mkv, 4k uhd stuff?

>>105844792
>Besides what you're recommending is weaker than the LG Alpha CPU processor
Can it play Dolby FEL profile 7? No, it can't. Therefore who gives a shit. It's a kodi machine and the best at it.

>>105844850
Yeah, sorry. I'll pass. Kodi on webOS can do that with no issues. Profile 8 and 10. Lossless. Can it handle Armbian?

>>105844848
>does it output 4K
Yes.
>120HZ-144HZ
No? It's for movies and TV, not gaming. That's all kodi does. There are no content >60Hz for said medium.
>h265, mkv, 4k uhd stuff
Not only can it do all that it can also playback DVD, bluray and 4k java menus unlike trash WebOS kodi.

>>105844865
Hmm do you own one anon and what's your entire set up? I'm interested now

>>105844856
>Lossless
You don't know what lossless means.
>Kodi on webOS can do that with no issues
No it can't. Please shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself. Profile 8 and 10 are webshit not disc tier quality.
>Can it handle Armbian
Why the fuck would it need to? It runs coreelec.

>>105844880
Calm your little pussy down.

>>105844880
Main 10
Stop behaving so vaginal

>>105830881

>>105844880
Does it trnscode PGSUB, ASS and so on?

>>105844889
Nice audio data. What exactly are you trying to convey, retard?

>>105844911
What's your setup, anon? Do you use this thing, or no?

>>105844880
>Why the fuck would it need to? It runs coreelec.
Dual boot

>>105844865
>>105844850
anon is this really the best? They're isn't anything else better?

>>105844899
this but unironically

>>105844880
>No it can't. Please shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Why are faggots like this? Oh, it's because they're faggots. I forgot.

>>105830881
>>105841773

i guess LEDs must kill brain worms, good for us

>>105845303
>He doesn't know what LLDV or TV-led DV are
How embarrassing.

>>105844899
what's VFD and why does it look so much better than LED

>>105845516
Easily the coolest atom-punk display tech humanity ever came up with. Vacuum between two plates of glass, electrons emitted from back, phosphors hit on the front, in between there's a control grid, the metal wires you see.
Now they're all extinct because cheap ugly LCDs, monocolor OLEDs and garish blue LEDs. I miss vacuum tube tech so much bros.

>>105845481
what is a device kike an nVidia shield capable of doing that my 9900x with a 4080Ti can't do with regards to DV and connected to my lg c1?

>>105845481
Player LED DV is shit compared to native TV-LED DV. fuck are you trying to say?

Oled is a disposable tech by design and a conspiracy to maintain korean duopoly. TVs that last a lifetime were problematic, just add mandatory smart functions that make them insecure after lifecycle of 5 years and make the display degrade over time. The crapacitor trick is not enough anymore and informed techies could repair it for too cheap.

>>105845559
I love vfd so much, the dots, the grid, the color, everything is perfect.
Shame they never made bigger ones like at least 9".
Have aliexpress 40x2 one as status display for pc.

>>105845675
>The crapacitor trick
tv manufacturers biggest trick is invention of led's that burn out after couple of years.
remember how they where saying led's are good for idk 200k hours. led backlight strips in modern tv's last like 5 years.

Copypasta'ing from /pcbg/ Amazon has a 27" 1440P@240Hz QD-OLED FOR $470 PRIME DAY & $485 FOR NON-PRIME BUYERS
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/agon-pro-ag276qzd2
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG276QZD2-Tournament-2560x1440-Compatible/dp/B0D682HF6R
This is the lowest price I've seen using price trackers for one of these class monitors since they went for $400 last Black Friday and is a sizable price cut since they had it for $570 up until yesterday (again by price tracker history).

Also it's 32" 4K bigger brother is available for $700 @ Best Buy (the catch being it's "only" 165Hz):
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-31-5-ag326ud-qd-oled-uhd-165hz-gaming-monitor-black/6617198.p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKL5q2Wf354

>>105845763
I wanted to make one for myself as well, but with a larger / graphical VFD. I had a look at prices for those things and gave up on the idea. I wrote a program for my 2006 PDA instead. Screen is obviously LCD though.

>>105845791
Because the LEDs are driven too hard and aren't kept cool enough.

If you don't run too much current through them (you can use more leds instead to achieve the same brightness) and have well designed thermals they can last a lifetime.

>>105825557
>ultrawide
yuck

>>105823406
Why are you linking a monitor that's

a) probably not even QLED
b) shitty 1440p resolution (1080p works, 1440p is terrible, should go straight to 4k, 4k wipes the floor with 1440p)
c) it's not even 27", it's 32", 32" should be for 4k (27" too, since 1440p sucks, but it does less so in 27")

Do you even monitors? How do you even come up with this shit?

>>105824679
No, only shift coming is pole shift

>>105837487
my entire family and friend circle use apple(we are rich and white) and not a single person has even the slightest hint of burn in on any of our devices

post a picture of it

>>105826741
Didn't the C4 have an ugly green hue when viewed at an angle? No clue if they fixed that in the C5 but I go with a C35 over C4 any day of the week.

>>105828694
Personally I just stopped caring and bought an OLED for watching movies and hq content and use a 10 year old good quality (but cheap) LCD for viewing daily shit in the livingroom. Problem solved, you don't need to daily drive an OLED for everything, right tool for the job. Although I'm highly sceptical the newer OLED's will burn in as quickly as people here suggest they will.

>>105818391 (OP)
lol no

>>105846329
Just buy multiple screens bro. Lmao!