Is it worth it for $499?

>>105820137 (OP)
do you REALLY need that?

Yes

>>105820160
overpriced, overheated

>>105820176
Yes, apple shit is always crap

The price is not bad if you really want a tiny PC. I'd be worried about build quality tho.

>>105820137 (OP)
well, it is a mini computer. do u NEED a mini computer? because you can achieve same by going for regular atx mobo + apu, and will have flexibility to throw-in more components later.

>>105820186
Worlds fastest single core performance in both their laptops as well as desktops, gotta give them that.

>>105820221
Yeah, that would be awesome if we were still running Cheetah or Windows XP where single core mattered, nowadays everything runs multi-threaded

>>105820137 (OP)

Looks like they finally got rid of the ill-advinsed magnetic power connector - which many people complained would cut power to the box if you even bumped the table it was on. So thats good.

what OS ships with these chink boxes?

>>105820137 (OP)
not enough ports especially for screens tbdesu, how is linux support for minicomputers also?

>>105820284
None, you can use windows or your favorite linux flavor

>>105820160
Rather the m4 because being forced to run Wintrash is an immediate demerit

>>105820243
Single core still matters, in any thing not multithreaded, which is a lot of stuff. ALOT. And they are not bad in multithreaded either, see https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8840831

>>105820290
it supports a third display through usb4

>>105820137 (OP)
ive learned my lesson on these kinds of products. they're always lacking in build quality and thought around thermal performance. shit bios. it's hardwareslop

>>105820315
vs Ryzen 9 9950X3Dhttps://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11344709

>>105820290
3 screens isn't enough?
>>105820315
>in any thing not multithreaded
So nothing made after 2006? Hell even Windows Vista is multithreaded, same for linux and macos at that time.
Also, at the same price point the Beelink is way faster multithreaded wich is the point.

>>105820315
>geekbench
LOL, aslto that's no the m4 10 core from the mac mini you dissingenous faggot

>>105820137 (OP)
>amd
nope

>>105820315
>ALOT
Every single app that mac excels at is multithreaded, be audio, graphics and video production.
Show me anything modern that benefit from single core. I will wait.

>>105820315
kek appletroons cant stop lying

>>105820137 (OP)
I wouldn't pay more than $300 for a MiniPC in most cases. The "high end mini pc" concept is a silly meme for poor wannabe gamer kids.

>>105820336
>So nothing made after 2006? Hell even Windows Vista is multithreaded, same for linux and macos at that time.
That's not how it works. A lot of things just cannot be parallelized effectively, at least across CPU cores.
That said, I wouldn't recommend a Mac mini anyway. MacOS is extremely unpleasant to use without a hiDPI display.

>>105820375
>That's not how it works
It is literally how it works today.

>>105820137 (OP)
I'd rather dock a laptop than get one of these mini pcs. Anker thunderbolt dock lets me plugin my work and personal laptops to the same screens+peripherals.
I have my desktop hooked up too when I need power but my laptop is way more power efficient for general browsing.

Get a VESA mount for maximum comfy

>>105820221
nice, now browsing facebook will be FASTER, thank you tim apple

>>105821364
Anon, modern browser are multi thread, open a single window with a single tab and check your task manager.

>>105821371
>task manager
Those aren't threads, they're processes.

>>105820203
>because you can achieve same by going for regular atx mobo + apu,
you'd need either µATX or miniITX to come near the mini PC formfactor, which will severly limit your choices in GPU (optional) and PSU and the only desktop APU that comes close to a high end laptop APU like these is the 8700G, a part which on its lonesome retails for €200 at least. You can maybe DIY an equivalent machine for around the same cost but it won't be cheaper.

>>105821371
APPLE LIQUID ASS BLASTED
CAN THEY EVEN RECOVER

>>105821417
So same shit then? Thread dispatcher from the OS allocate process to cores based on load making multi core more efficient than using a single core for all the process.

>>105820403
getting an equivalent chip in a laptop will easily cost you $200 more, and most of the time much more because the best laptop chips have the best intergrated graphics and the best the high end laptop chips will often go into laptops with an intergrated graphics card for which you would have to pay even more.

>>105820315
Yeah. Let's pretend the single core benchmark is correct.

>>105820160
8745hs is pretty good, what tasks do you plan to do so that it won't be enough? i would find though that 256gb ssd and 16gb ram is too small nowadays. the minimum is 1tb and 32gb (but better 48gb if you think for far more ahead).
and ofc ubuntu/fedora, not windows, too much spyware there, moreover their requirements version to version are just too retarded

>>105821794
>getting an equivalent chip in a laptop will easily cost you $200 more
Well yeah, it comes with built in peripherals and a battery. I'll pay more for useful features.
You can get more performance from a normal desktop than a mini pc. You can also get more functionality in a laptop than a mini pc. Those things are the worst of both worlds and only benefit in really niche usecases like kiosks which the average person has no use for.

I own one and I'm pretty happy with it. The main mistake people make when buying a mini PC is not looking at noise benchmarks. Most people want to place it on top of their desk within arm's length. They get wowed by the paper specs and then are disappointed by the noisy fan that constantly ramps up and down.

About 90% of them don't even have PWM controls in the BIOS. The SER8 is fairly quiet by default but you can make it dead silent with a custom fan profile.

>>105820137 (OP)
No, they tend to break, just buy m4 mini basic. None of thesE ryzen shits can even compare, just watch vid linked. Multiple 4k vids, editing 4k vid, browsing all at the same time working perfectly fine.


https://youtu.be/UsA8YbYLrDM

>>105820137 (OP)
My view of these things is to spend as little money on them as possible to get a functional web browsing experience. Anything more is a waste.

>>105822875
kys shill the m4 has been proved to be a ripoff in this very same thread.

>>105820137 (OP)
>peelink
lol

>>105822908
you mean using it as a server?

Do mini pcs like this typically have upgradeable RAM? Don't know much about them but might get one for server in future.

>>105820137 (OP)
Would these be good enough as a main desktop in a small flat?
I mean Paris or Berlin small.

>>105823380
Any desktop can probably work in a small flat but this shit surely yeah

>>105820137 (OP)
Why not build a mini-STX PC at that point?

>>105820137 (OP)
8745hs is roughly equivalent to a 7840hs, 7940hs, and 8845hs. The 12 core 780m is bretty impressive, it will run older games like arma 3 and gta v (no RT) at 1080 60hz.

If you are paying $500, it should include 64gb of LPDDR5 and a 2gb ssd. Otherwise you can get a barebones minisforum 8745 for $320

>>105822908
Anything with an N100 or better should do that even running W11, computing is dirt cheap now.

>>105823778
I have an n100 chinkshit like this for a year now, it is my jellyfin server

name ONE (1) use case for a mini pc some other device can't cover. I'll wait.

>>105823804
That's a super cool design.

>>105820160
you do realize that passmark shows you an average score of all M4 chips including passively cooled iPad Pro M4 and MacBook Air?

>>105820137 (OP)
>>105820160
totally, lmao

https://youtu.be/7VXwvSnUuGw?t=43