Why do normies think AI will replace programmers when its simply a tool that helps them program faster?
It would be the equivalent of saying a wrench will replace a mechanic.

Because tech companies and related political forces tell them to think that.

>>105822561 (OP)
It doesn’t even make me faster. I end up having to rewrite anything meaningful it does. It really just helps on tiny functions like “give me the modulus of the last 4 digits of this uuid divided by 100”.

>>105822561 (OP)
>t would be the equivalent of saying a wrench will replace a mechanic.
Boomers said literally this right before spending their kid's tuition on multiple Caribbean vacations

>>105822561 (OP)
>Why do normies think AI will replace programmers
it won't. People said the same about IT workers, sys admins etc. Know how many sys admins there were in 2000? 350k. Know how many there are today? 350k. But muh automation. Yeah well, it didn't happen.

>>105822561 (OP)
>normies
Are the normies in the room with you now?

>>105822561 (OP)
You do realize "normies" nowadays are the same people who barely have a sense of computer literacy right? As in, they don't know what a "file" is, don't know what a file explorer is and thinks everything comes in an app and storage is unlimited. tl;dr: normies are retarded.

>>105822561 (OP)
I vaguely remember something similar with NetBeans, because you could "Draw"Java UI with it, with basic programming knowledge.

>>105822561 (OP)
Anon, most of those people would trade a cow for magic beans, you underestimate how unintelligent the majority are. We're you here for Kony 2012? Y2K?

>>105822561 (OP)
If one programer can now program at the speed of two, why keep the second one? Retard.

>>105822644
I miss back when Brads and Stacy's knew basic HTML and CSS for their myspace profile page.

>>105822561 (OP)
If you had a bunch of dudes changing out bolts with their bare hands and you have a dude that could do all of their job because he has a wrench, congrats you no longer need all those dudes. You just need one dude with one wrench. Jobs = lost.

>>105822561 (OP)
Because soon your manager will just start using it instead of asking you to do things.

Cope thread? Cope thread.

>>105822714
Or we just end up building more things with more bolts

>>105822561 (OP)
Nobody with a brain really thinks that, but there are very rich people willing to spend a lot on shilling to make it a common sentiment among retards, who make up half the population.

>>105822561 (OP)
they got fooled by parlor tricks into thinking the holodeck was right around the corner
I'm not convinced it's even able to pass the turing test.

>>105822587
>I'm suffering from skill issue
Got it bro

>>105822561 (OP)
Better question is why there are "programmers" who are gloating about how AI lets them code 100x faster or whatever? Every time you dig into it, either they're non coders or 0.001x developers yet they're all cocky about how the rest of us are going to be left behind.

>>105822728
Found one. Did you have to use your LLM to write your comment for you?

Because they see other industries using AI and think they're going to sack a dozen people to let the bot take charge of making and editing itself, unaware that when you don't reign in AI is when you get shit like Willy's Chocolate Experience. People are waiting for AI to get better so they stop writing it off, unaware its their own judgement that makes it a less viable tool, not the tool itself. Two more years hopefully

>>105822714
your analogy doesn't hold because in the analogy everybody gets a wrench, so now you have a bunch of dudes with wrenches who are all fixing more cars faster. And yes, there's always more cars to fix because mechanics have wrenches now and you still have to call ahead and schedule an appointment in advance for the mechanic due to high demand of people needing their cars worked on

>>105823821
>copy/pasting text from a chat bot is a skill
we got a prompt engineer here folks

>>105822561 (OP)
constant state of tech ignorance. The layoff are simply because companies find pajeets cheaper that's all.

Builder.ai showed us this. We may be laughing now but all the corpos have noticed that they can fool investors or replace everyone with cheaper pajeets. They're just buying time to figure out how to do it without facing public backlash.

The pajeet thing is mostly bad management. It's middle management big noting themselves over how much money they saved or whatever. Everyone who's worked on projects where there's 3-4 onshore devs and 8-10 off-shore devs knows the deal.

>>105822561 (OP)
These pos won't even help me write "educational stories" lmao. And no, I'm not gonna paypiggy for the one that does.

>>105822561 (OP)
There are a lot of interests riding behind the AI craze due to misguided stockholders, much more so than the NFT craze that preceded it. Just treat it as a buzzword, like "multimedia" and "3D" were in the aughts.

>>105823904
>now you have a bunch of dudes with wrenches who are all fixing more cars faster
Or fucking them up faster due to their lack of understanding of how a wrench works.

>>105822561 (OP)
>Why do normies think AI will replace programmers when its simply a tool that helps them program faster?
because of this

CBS NEWS: College grad unemployment surges as employers replace new hires with AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdUMQyB83H8

>>105822561 (OP)
Normies don't think about programming at all ever.

So no.

>>105824597
False statement. I heard a janitor say something like this, recentny:
>AI is gonna replace IT people soon
>probably except those that write code
It's retarded, as one could expect, but it's not the only example

>>105824653
Thanks for proving my point. I appreciate it.

>>105824653
Yeah, I'm sure a janitor definitely said that.

>>105822561 (OP)
because most tech companies have fully committed themselves to ai whether normies like it not. Now, you can pretend that this is all just a bubble and go on with your life like your normally would, or adapt to these changes and demands made by current employers.

>>105822561 (OP)
it already is, i'm relegated to being a hobby programmer because i don't like working with AI

>>105824672
Is it really that strange that people born in the years 1995-2005 might have a passive interest in something like programming considering they were raised by technology and played video games growing up?

>>105824904
Is it really that likely that by positing a hypothetical you're going to convince me of your anecdote?

>>105824920
I'm not the guy you were replying to, I just don't think it's strange. I mean, do you think people who work manual labor jobs exclusively think of manual labor and that's it? I got a friend who worked as a janitor in an elementary school for like 5 years who recently picked up programming as a hobby. It's not really that weird any more for someone to learn about something outside their normal run-of-the-mill living situation with everyone having access to the internet.

>>105824928
I don't know how you didn't understand from my post, whether or not you are the person I was previously talking to, that I don't just accept anecdotes. I don't care about your janitor friend. I simply don't believe it happened.

>>105822561 (OP)
because people are generally stupid and lazy and will believe what theyre told at face value. as in, too lazy to actually think. i never realized how eager people were to outsource their own thought processes until chatgpt came out

my brother thought cloud gaming would replace all gaming by like 2022 because some corporation told him it would. and this is a guy who used to play games and work on computers since like 1998, so he should have definitely known better. somehow people just never put 2 and 2 together

>>105822561 (OP)
>Why do normies think AI will replace programmers when its simply a tool that helps them program faster?
sometimes and to create general things, if you want something specific it will shit itself and gaslight you

>>105822765
this

>>105822561 (OP)
It's viewed more as a virtual immigrant than a virtual wrench

>>105822561 (OP)
>when its simply a tool that helps them program faster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
programming becomes more efficient, so the total resource consumption will rise (resource being programmer time)

>>105822566
Just say jews, anon.

>>105822561 (OP)
>Why do normies think AI will replace programmers when its simply a tool that helps them program faster?
Are you retarded? If a company has 50 programmers and AI makes them faster, so the company now only needs 30 programmers, how are those 20 programmers not replaced?

I love programming with AI, did few game working prototypes, did a social media clone, did a canva-lite clone, now on to doing some dashboard

can I get a job in tech with these skills?

>>105828917
You assume equal demand. But if AI makes programmers faster, then programming becomes cheaper, and the demand will rise.

>>105822566
>>105822561 (OP)
Because people are literally getting fired over it

>>105824940
then you're stupid for making a point of it, because you're not believing something reasonable and also not bringing anything else to the table. The type of guy to pop in, say "erm actually I don't think that's true" and then walk away.

>>105829001
>demand is le infinite
yeah that's why music is worth nothing these days

>>105822681
/thread

>>105822561 (OP)
I don't understand why there isn't an r9k uniqueness requirement on thread OPs on every board.

>>105830434
>using quotes to suggest I made that statement
>adding le to make it sound ridiculous
>making a bad analogy between software and music

>>105822616
This. I just get shit done faster now.

>>105822561 (OP)
>le orange man maymay

>>105822561 (OP)
Because wrenches don't decide what to fasten, how tight to fasten them, what order to fasten them in, and generally* don't use other tools to accomplish their goals.

*a version of MCP for wrenches kind of exists with those hex-handle tools but they didn't seem to catch on that well, and of course the user of the wrench still needs to decide when to use them anyway

>>105822561 (OP)
Because Sam Altman needs more money and media websites need more clciks and they get it by pushing the "AGI coming soon LLMs will take all your jobs" narrative tailor made for doom scrollers

You morons are coping so hard if you think humans are infallible. Whatever skills you have or plan to acquire, a mediocre AI can obtain in seconds.

>>105833676
Its over we already know.

>>105833676
"AI" is as fallible as a person without having actual reasoning skills. It's a digital jeet.

>>105833738
Nta but it's cheaper and faster. It's over dude, programming is dead.

>>105833676
except being able to count the number of r's in the word strawberry, haven't quite broached that threshold.