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you're a web designer in 2002
i remember using dreamweaver in school. what is the desktop enviroment for this feel?
>>105838582That was so cool. For a long time I had a "live" (updated a few times an hour or whenever) weather satellite view of Earth as my desktop.
>>105838565dreamweaver is unironically lost technology, like the moon mission.
we are living in the dark ages without realising it.
I remember the outrage when Wikipedia introduced Monobook in 2004. Now Monobook is seen as "soul" Wikipedia by zoomers.
>>105838582An optional feature based on core components already present in the system is not bloat. Also, IE5 was incredibly lean and nothing even remotely like the bloat of the modern web browsers.
>>105840060It was bloat when most people still used modems.
>wallpaper
I miss this aesthetic like you wouldn't believe.
>>105838530 (OP)I miss 2advanced so much it's unreal. Surfstation.lu rise up.
>>105838530 (OP)maybe i was dumb but when i was making websites back then i just used photoshop (pirated), notepad and the browser to check my progress
https://web.archive.org/web/20230528083748/http://archive.hi-res.net/
I cant remember what the point of Dreamweaver was.
>>105842592not dumb. everyone had similar workflow.
>>105842661Boilerplate code and quick preview and autocomplete
>>105842661>>105842680>notepadNo they didn't unless you were some kind of sado. We used dreamweaver to visually modify tables and used its built-in ftp functionality.
>>105839109>dreamweaver is unironically lost technology, like the moon mission.>>105842711>We used dreamweaver to visually modify tables>WeWe were using all kinds of things. dreamweaver was so bloated that it was unreal to witness. point and click slop for retarded monkeys that can't code anything.
>>105842726yeah, my memory of dreamweaver at the time was that it was more trouble than it was worth
>>105842711No, he's right. I never needed Dreamweaver ever. I just used a text editor and the browser.
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>>105838530 (OP)I was not a web designer, but I liked to fuck around making local html/css websites using this kind of fonts, specially the fire one
>>105842726>>105842759Neither of you retarded faggots were professional web designers in 2002 and it shows.
>>105842661I used Geocities Page Builder, Microsoft Frontpage and Macromedia Dreamweaver when I was young. I needed WYSIWYG because notepad code and browser f5 wasn't in my blood yet.
>>105842661>>105844003Actually come to think of it, in the web 2.0 days, I designed my site in Photoshop, used the slice tool and exported it so that the entire layout is just a table of images and left one of the cells as an iframe. Those were the days.
>>105838530 (OP)I still make stuff with actionscript 2.0 when I'm bored. It's so limited it poses its own challenge, I'm unrolling loops like I would in 6502 asm.
I used to spam porno as a young teen in the late 90s.. I remember when activex came out, you could embed an .exe or batch script into a page and have it automatically prompt for download. Due to the fact that most people had little experience with computers back then, they basically clicked "yes" on everything..
It was the dial-up days, and there were a lot of shady "dialer" programs that would automatically connect to a 900 number that would connect to some porno server in thailand and bill your phone number 19.99/per minute connected. We'd market them as "live sorority cams", and stuff like that, but all it ever was was some gifs, never actual live video feed, which would've been difficult on a 28.8 connection that averaged 3kb/s downloads.. we'd set up a fake website with some free hosting company, embed a batch file in the html and have it download to the users desktop with a name like "Live Cam Portal" or some such nonsense, which would automatically execute our dialer which would dial into the 900 number.
Of course you couldn't do this on your mom's aol account or you'd get termed for life, so you had to steal accounts by cracking or phishing. Everyone's password was abc123, drowssap, nsync or iloveu back in those days, and there were always some random login portal to some AOL service that wasn't rate limited, so you'd fire up visual basic and put together a cracker, then harvest names by creating a bot that would enter random lobby chats, harvest the names of all occupants, save them to a txt file, exit the room, and start again. You'd run a dupe-kill on the list at the end of the night and you'd have several thousand names to crack. You'd load a password list of the most common 10 or passwords and you'd probably net about 10 accounts out of every 250 usernames tried.
Anyway, I made a shitload of money for a couple years. My parents thought I was selling drugs. Good times, though I feel bad about it as an adult.
>>105844125Also comment and contact sections typically used formmail.cgi perl scripts to operate, but were never configured correctly, so you could spam via email that way. Learning the toc protocol and spamming AIM was fun, too. Security was an afterthought in those days. What a little shitheel I was..
>>105844125an interesting bit of trivia, zuckerberg was an aol h4x0r too, and since you'd get disco'd if you sat idle for too long, you needed a program that would send text to a chat room to keep you connected. one of the first things he ever coded was an idler, or a "phader", which would send text in a sort of rainbow of colors. all the spammers would hang out in the private chatrooms phish, spam or vb and run their idler programs to keep connected while they cracked/spammed/etc
ok enough nostalgia for today
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>>105844178here's some screenshots of some random AOL idlers I found. I miss the UIs of all those homebrew h4x0r proggies from the 90s that kids used to make.
it really was a golden era for raising hell on the internet.
>>105844017> I designed my site in Photoshop, used the slice tool and exported it so that the entire layout is just a table of images and left one of the cells as an iframe. Those were the days.Correct and dreamweaver was the means of framing all the tables to the correspond to the slices. We also named for the slices so you could use save the for web and all image name s corresponded to their respective slice. CSS was only for decoration not positioning.
>>105844206Programmers today just lack a certain flair we had back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qmGE66dH90
>>105844125And I thought I was l33t with netbus holy shit. How are you not a millionaire by now with these skills? Everyone smart managed to cash in being so skilled, so early to the web. You a mental/disabledcel? I salute you, ol fren.
>>105838530 (OP)Here's a prime example of what they took from us.
https://web.archive.org/web/20031224212737/http://www.taigkhris.com:80/
>>105838530 (OP)Start Adobe Photoshop uh 6?
Import renderings of otherworldly planets with purple green and blue hues
Import star field background
Lense flare
Round corners
Crop to center, export jpeg
Undo, crop to left and right edges, export as gifs
Open notepad
Create button map for navigation by clicking on planets
Put it all in a table just to be sure it doesn't wrap
>>105838565>what is the desktop enviroment for this feel?xfce4 is the closest (not necessarily in appearance, but in general feel)
>>105849635It is super easy to rice XFCE4 to look like ME/9X
>most of the aesthetic changes are built in
>>105849415depth core art is kino.
pretty much every other psytrance release 2002-2006 had this style of artwork.
>>105849408What is this style of art called? I really need more of it
>>105843847professionals weren't using dreamweaver. you know who was? fat talentless failures that can't code. some people were so fucking lazy with that program you'd see the same fucking templates all over the internet used by these so-called "professionals". these are the same level of losers that call themselves "professionals" because they can edit a wordpress site and install plugins. lmao. get the fuck out of here, you lame piece of shit.
>>105838530 (OP)>photoshop 6.0hell yeah
I think people should be using old photoshop versions more frequently.
>>105850608Lmao fucking seething. There were no "web developers" back then. There were web designers and programmers. There was no full stack bullshit. Fuck off with your muh code faggotry.
>>105850608Yeah man when I'm manually updating twenty static HTML sites for 8 clients the tool I'm definitely grabbing is notepad and IE5, it'll be so much quicker than putting my mouse inside the table cell that needs to be updated in Macromedia Dreamweaver.
>>105852679Dreamweaver was slow too.
>>105852697Of course is was, it was connected to your ftp server for live updates.
>>105838530 (OP)no I'm a neet and it's 2025, recalibrate your ai because it's retarded
How would you call this aesthetic?
>>105852679Thank fuck. Someone with a brain showed up. Bless you, anon.
>>105852697>Dreamweaver was slow tooIt really wasn't. Macromedia made quality shit back then. Not jeet infestation.
>>105849415https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadMH2PZv7c
>>105850074>>105850152>>105850924Where did depth core come from? Last time I checked it was called Metalheart
I made so many shitty webpages in MS FrontPage back then.
>>105850608>>105852679>>105853324> when you're such a lame piece of shit that you need to have mental breakdown over trash point and click software nobody used except for losers that can't codeembarrassing. anon was right btw. it is bloated shit for the lamest cunts alive. it was embarrassing when it was released and admitting to using it in current years is even more embarrassing.
>>105853223bootlegged from the 1970s
>>105849415me downloading fractal brushes off deviantart
>>105853436how do i make my modern linux desktop look like this bros
https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/year-2002
>>105854841https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/itunes-in-2001
Sirs which year is your favourite?