I'm on the fence about getting a Kindle. I already own an iPad, which offers a color display, handles PDFs and comics/manga well, and is decent for reading. However, I'm considering a Kindle to improve my sleep and have less distractions. Any thoughts or suggestions?

I have an old one. It's good. Good battery life, compact and portable, and it's very easy on the eyes at the lowest brightness. And you're right, you're not going to be distracted on it because it only has a specific purpose. So you can take it with you to a park or whatever and just read.

>>105838747 (OP)
>giving 149$ to jeff bezos
if you are gonna buy one get it used at least

>>105838747 (OP)
i got a very cheap Amazon Oasis when they discontinued them
it has buttons, waterproof, more lights than any paperwhite. what more can you ask for

>>105838747 (OP)
The new ones have screen problems. Buy a used one.

>>105838941
>>105838954
>>105838971
>>105838978
is 7 inches good for manga?

locked down shit. ill stick with actual paper, simple as. only sony has decent eink anyway.

>>105839199
I don't use it for magna, only books.

>>105839199
I have an 8" Oasis, and I wouldn't use it for manga.

>>105839227
>>105839268
thanks. might stick with my ipad for manga and buy the cheapest one.
>picrel

>>105839199
i don't think so anon. but then again i don't read manga

>>105839315
mine is from like 2015. I'd look into what this guy said >>105838978

>>105839315
go buy something used that doesn't tie you to amazon's store. 7" is too small for manga also.

>>105838747 (OP)
personally i would never buy an eink device because of the trash refresh rate. moon reader+ on my phone is way better in every single way.

backlit soft white text on dark background is goated and cannot be replicated with eink trash

>could just buy a kubo and be happy
>instead buys the most overpriced ad-riddled goyslop he could find
never change /g/

>>105838978
>The new ones have screen problems.
nta but source?

>>105838747 (OP)
I recently bought an iPad mini A17 pro due to its form factor. I hear its a low spec version of the larger form IPads but goddamn is it good. The battery performance beats any Android I've ever tried. The only thing I do hate about is is feature bloat. But I simply deactivate, delete and ignore most features I'll never use.

>>105838747 (OP)
>kindle
retard. get a kobo forma/libra so you can load whatever you want without amazon's retarded drm.

>>105839690
you can load whatever you want on kindle

>>105838747 (OP)
It's a completely different place experience readin on e-ink, extremely worth it. And it's pretty much a one time purchased e-readers are so basic devices that nothing breaks and you don't need to upgrade.
But don't get a kindle, get a kobo

>>105839315
facebook marketplace has plenty of e-ink displays.
you cannot load arbitrary ebooks onto the kindle, all the books need to be on the amazon store, and also there has been some drama with amazon removing ebooks remotely and removing the ability to store ebooks on a computer (offline I assume?). And I think amazon has locked down on jailbreaking, it's pretty difficult now.
The HD clara color is the new model that has color (It's probably worth it because it's not much more expensive compared to a B/W display with the same pixel density/features, the $85 kindle has no waterproofing, and no "warm" backlight).
Older models are like $10-20 on facebook marketplace but note the models might be like 10 years old, but it's fine, the pixel density and contrast might be slightly worse, probably not water proof, and no backlight, but that's not really going to give you eye burn or anything.
you can pirate books from libgen.is and it should just work I expect?. However, the kindle might be better in terms of cost because most people who buy an e-ink display end up giving up after 1 book, so the premium of kobo being able to pirate books isn't worth it.
I think ipads have apps (or websites) that are made for pirating mangas, and I think none of the e-ink displays would support (I think there are e-ink android OS's but it's probably expensive), so I think the ipad is just way better for mangas, maybe you might prefer the kobo clara color (if you dropped the $ for it) but chances are the ipad is still going to be a better experience because the colors / contrast / app.

>>105839825
>you cannot load arbitrary ebooks onto the kindle
my bad, you can load most files, but I don't understand if the issues that people experience people got with missing page numbers or disappearing books was fixed.

>>105839897
yes I wouldn't consider the kindle at all if you couldn't load books into it. However it supports even epub now and costs $55 less than the kobo. i can't justify buying the kobo

Do older models of Kindle still allow uploading over USB? I know that Amazon killed that off on at least their latest model. Any other good brands that aren't over $100?

>>105839825
>you cannot load arbitrary ebooks onto the kindle, all the books need to be on the amazon store, and also there has been some drama
My kindle is from around 2014-2015 and i have never had an issue moving a book onto it. I use calibre

>>105840264
I load my kindle with books from my PC using calibre. Can you not do this with newer kindles? Wtf?

>>105839516
I don't know how easily I can find a definitive source for you - sorry anon.

Both the 'ColorSoft' and the new PaperWhites have a weird vaseline smear around the bottom and side edges. It's a roll-the-dice purchase at the moment. The ColorSoft reviews are probably the best source of this issue. My bf had bought me a ColorSoft to replace my Oasis, and we ended up sending it back because it had both the vaseline smear and the yellowing on the bottom edge. They were super combative about accepting the return, and we had to threaten a CC chargeback.

Amazon have dropped the ball hard unfortunately.

>>105839315
Kindle Comic Converter should be the best option. You can also convert the cbr/cbz files to pdf, but that introduces margins on a screen that's already pretty small for manga.
>>105839825
You can load your own books, but Amazon has been known to randomly delete sideloaded books and they can't really be trusted not to wipe everything if you keep it connected to the internet.
Also some books just don't load for whatever reason and some are constantly rediscovered by the media scanner so you can't keep them in collections.
This at least on the Kindle Paperwhite 5/5 SE.
>>105839937
Kindles will never support epub natively, the claimed support is implemented by converting epubs sent by email to azw or something. Epub files loaded over usb will not show up.

>>105838747 (OP)
Get a Kobo instead. Kindles are not worth the hassle.

How do old used Kindles hold up? I looked up some video and it seems like the battery is easy enough to replace. Are they known to just die regardless, or are they pretty sturdy?

>>105840431
I never bothered to figure out the details before since I never connected my Kindle to Wifi, but apparently using Calibre to upload books still works.

>>105840713
my kindle may be 10 years old at this point and is fine.

Does it really matter what brand of ereader I get if I just pirate everything anyways?

>>105840755
Ideally you'd want something that doesn't delete your pirated books randomly and supports as many formats as possible, i.e. not Kindle

>>105841000
You can use Calibre to convert to any format Kindle supports so that isn't an issue. I've never heard of Kindle just removing pirated books since it cannot tell what is pirate and what is a "backup".

>>105841000
it's $50 dollars less than the cheapest kobo

>>105838747 (OP)
The kindles are literally the worst ebook readers. Get a kobo.
Also forget about PDF and good colors with eink.

>>105839199
10" is the minimum size for manga.

>>105841220
>Get a kobo.
it's $50 dollars more for same specs

>>105841047
https://tabletsage.com/kindle-sideloaded-books-disappearing/
Amazon has no incentive to fix these bugs obviously so the problem will probably never go away.
You're right about Calibre though, I've set it up to force some formatting rules and mark all books as EBOK while it converts the file to mobi format automatically.
Another nitpick about the user experience, you have to use the EBOK tag specifically so the Kindle will list the file as a book instead of a document.
Calibre will also fix book covers for all books whenever you load a new book onto the device, but connecting the device to the internet will usually wipe sideloaded book covers again.
You also need to manually delete the /system/Search Indexes directory and replace it with an empty text file to stop it from killing itself after copying a torrented 2000 book collection over.
>>105841157
Kindle has the best battery life and a pretty neat reading experience, but you need manual fiddling to make it usable unless you only keep like 100 books on it. Amazon is generally pretty hostile to sideloading and constantly tries new passive aggressive ways to make it more difficult.

>>105841157
>>105841250
And Kindle is subsidized with ads.

>>105841262
for the price of the basic kobo i can get the kindle in OP's image

>>105841262
>Kindle has the best battery life
Compared to what? There's very few real measurements n the battery life of e-readers since all of them last forever.

>>105839199
grow up and read a real book

>>105840755
There's big difference in how you can transfer books and what software you can use to read.
The differences in the screens are minor in comparison.

>>105840431
>>105840264
You can still transfer DRM-free azw over USB, but books you bought on Kindle can are now off limits.

How the fuck are used ereaders so expensive on Ebay? Might as well buy a new one.

>>105841533
They're virtually indestructible and immune to planned obsolence - text files will not grow in size or change over the next few decades
Seriously it's unbelievable that in 2025 anyone sells electronics that don't break within 5 years

>>105841294
They turn them off if you ask nicely in the customer support chat
Did it like 7 years ago for my paperwhite and I heard they still do it

>>105839315
You should sick with the ipad for regular ebooks too. I've not touched my kindle at all since getting one.

got whatever basic kindle was out 3-4 years ago, connected it to the internet once for some basic setup and it's been in airplane mode ever since. zero issues, calibe transfers pirated books fine.

>>105841581
>They're virtually indestructible
Plenty of people manage to ruin theirs by placing it in a bag with something sharp poking into it.
It's a glass backed panel, treat it with care.

>>105841647
You never read outside?

>>105841679
People who don't use cases for their portable electronics are just asking for it to get damaged.

>>105838747 (OP)
I've had three kindles and once I got an ipad I never touched any of them again

I can't how small and limited kindles are

>>105841690
A case isn't going to make a huge difference and you can only get flip-book covers anyway. You may not scratch the front but it's not going to stop the glass inside from cracking.

>>105841694
Why did you get three of them in the first place? Did you at least consider a DX or Scribe? Get one of the large Boox devices if you want flexibility.

>>105841713
don't haphazardly toss it in a bag full of pointy objects????

>>105841688
I go outside to touch grass, not read. Fair point though.

>>105841736
That's what I'm saying. People don't realize where the weak points are and then act surprised when it's broken.

>>105839199
I find 7" fine with page cropping (I use KOReader) but I mainly read books. Probably better to buy something more dedicated with a 10" screen and Android-based if you solely read manga.

>>105841250
It doesn't force you to use amazons cuck formats, you can just drag and drop shit onto it over usb. And if you're turboautistic you can easily mod it with extra software.

>Using a Kobo instead of a Kindle

>>105838747 (OP)
>I'm on the fence about getting a Kindle
You could buy an old tablet, install a custom Lineage OS rom and use that for reading ebooks for a cheaper price.