>majored in CS because I watched Luke Smith back in 2021 and got into Linux
>graduate into the worst job market possible
>luckily double majored in mathematics
What else can I pivot into that won't require me to spam applications 24/7 and/or work with large amounts of foreigners? Kinda wishing I went into engineering at this point.

>>105839086 (OP)
You could pivot into ee if you're good with physics. I'd just work on personal projects to build a portfolio, send out applications and work a summer job until something good pops up

>>105839086 (OP)
>What else can I pivot into that won't require me to spam applications 24/7 and/or work with large amounts of foreigners? Kinda wishing I went into engineering at this point.
Honestly, lay low and wait for vibe coders to code business into the grave. Someone will have to fix that, and that's when CS people will make fat stacks again.

>>105839086 (OP)
Become an actuary

>>105839448
I'm not sure that's possible since every big company is nakedly replacing anyone they can with a jeet working for $9 per month. I think it's not impossible that all the tech companies crash so hard they screw the global economy for a decade.

>>105839086 (OP)
>LUKE SMITH

>>105839760
You're assuming jeets are more competent than AI vibe coders. In reality, only the most elite jeets can actually pull off what's advertised on the tin, less than 5%.

>>105839086 (OP)
>>luckily double majored in mathematics
kek, CS people complain about the job market but you have to put into perspective that a bad market for CS is a normal market for every other part of STEM.
EE for example has been dry for decades in nearly every western country bar the US and even the US market is bad compared to what it used to be and should be. Aerospace has a handful of job opportunities and you either get them and move wherever they demand, or you go into another career.
And outside of engineering the job market has been tragic for a long time. Graduates in physics for example have something like >7% unemployment in the US, and that market has always been horrendous, and will almost certainly not get better. CS complains it's the end of the world when they've got about 5% right now.
You also have to keep in mind that considering some of the absolutely idiotic posts here that there's a good reason some of them are unemployed.

Teach the next generation of retards who are also planning to waste their lives doing a math and CS degree

>>105839934
Jeets are vibe coders though

>>105840024
The next generation of retards is going into plumbing because every e-celeb and regular celeb who talks about finances and jobs has been talking about how great plumbing is for the past 4 years.

>>105839448
>that's when CS people will make fat stacks again.
Indians have been breaking software projects since the 90s and companies still can't get enough of them. Musk has Trump considering lifting the cap on H1Bs entirely. There seems to be no amount of pain from bad code that overrides the desire to pay low wages for software development.

>>105840676
>Musk has Trump considering lifting the cap on H1Bs entirely.
i take it you haven't been keeping up with the latest season of burger drama? those two hate each other now. that said, trump has repeatedly signaled he wants to completely open the floodgates to jeets and foreign labor because he's a corporate whore, so it's not like it makes a difference

>>105840099
I'm an older millennial and people have been talking about how good plumbing is my whole life.
It's always been one of the 'meme jobs' in the sense that people always talk about how much money they make. Which makes sense since it's generally not something most people pursue(women especially). I mean it's probably true in the money sense.
But all I'm saying is that it's not a new thing.
It will be funny though if people do get squeezed enough through layoffs, and jack of jr hiring or whatever that the supply of plumbers actually goes up enough that the amount they make due to static demand actually drags their salaries down towards the median.

>>105840708
He is currently trying to maneuver through the Epsteins list backlash so he might do that to distract.

>>105840024
I mean this literally btw, go into education like the rest of the liberal arts graduates

>>105839086 (OP)
Medicine and finance are jeeted. Most lawyers will never make money. Maybe sales where the commissions are good, but you're on /g/ so you lack the rizz for it in all likelihood.

So, reroll and try to get into a T10 program in whatever field.

>>105839086 (OP)
>work with large amounts of foreigners?
something that invovles snow. They don't like the cold.

>>105839086 (OP)
>fuck i hate working with jeets
>i should become an engineer

>>105839998
Yeah, the world fucking hates STEMlords, and wants them to eat shit as research coolies for waiter pay.

>>105839086 (OP)
>majored in CS because I watched Luke Smith
You may have watched him but you clearly didn't *listen* to him.

>>105839086 (OP)
>What else can I pivot into that won't require me to spam applications 24/7 and/or work with large amounts of foreigners?
go gov/defense contractor/military. easier to get into and anything that requires a security clearance will be free of jeets.

>>105840981
No, for people outside of STEM its even worse. You think its bad only for there to actually be something even worse. Outside of STEM its just wasteland of nepotism and underemployment.

>>105840901
Don't teachers make more money than most STEMcels these days with less demanding schedules?

>>105840844
It's retards imagining themselves as the business owner, and thinking the whole bill for the plumbing job the plumber's pocket, because GOPoids don't know how the world works. We have the BLS numbers to know it's bullshit.

>>105840844
Yeah, but that was only just plumbers being dickheads and boasting about how good they have it, now its the broad sentiment. Every fucking podcast bro will tell you that plumbing is the best.

>>105841026
What's crazy is that jeet grads also can't get jobs in India. Put the samosas in the bag, bro.

The jobs market seems cooked globally.

>>105841026
It's "even worse" only depending on your perspective. In terms of raw pay, yes, it is worse, but in terms of expectations, I find STEM (specifically science) now gives you one of the worst returns, because the amount of effort required to get really good is very high, and you will almost certainly be paid like shit for compensation. With other fields they don't really have as high expectations to get really good in the first place, and what's more, they aren't lied to nearly as much by the government and almost all of the establishment saying that we need more people with these skills, which is always the case with sciences. They'll tell you all day long about how valuable these skills are (true) but in the end you'll get rugged and paid like shit.
>t. former physicist

>>105841048
Well yeah, the Dubai My Course podcast grifters make their money off selling proverbial shovels. They don't know shit, because let's be honest "podcaster" means "white and unemployed" much as "aspiring rapper" means "black and unemployed".

>>105841097
The non-software side of STEM seems to be "get a PhD from a T10 program and get paid like shit, otherwise Doordash and go fuck yourself."

>>105839086 (OP)
what's that pic about?

>>105841128
That's more or less accurate. Leaving academia is also tremendously hard, because in reality the rest of the job market now has no idea what to do with you, so basic jobs are a no-go, whereas the jobs that are open to you will be extremely competitive. You're nearly guaranteed to wind up between a rock and a hard place.

>>105841161
It really seems like the entire world just kinda wants everyone under 40, but especially under 30, to fuck off and die.

>>105841048
If it becomes an actual full blown trend and zoomers flood the labor market for plumbing and end up making $60k rather than their $200k they thought they were going to make...
There's going to be a lot of funny videos out there eventually kek

>>105841238
The median wage for plumbers IS $63k. But don't worry, they all make an extra $100k under the table, if right wing media personalities are to be believed.

>>105841238
>zoomers don't go into the trades
>zoomers are lazy
>zoomers do go into the trades
>they are just following a trend
my god, oldlets are fucking retarded. The day of the pillow can't get here soon enough

>>105841282
terrible reading comprehension

>>105841238
All videos online will be just AIslop by that time, the internet will be fully dead devoid of humans and just waiting to be shut off once advertisers and datafarmers realize that having 90% bots be the traffic is not economically sustainable

>>105841282
None of that is what I meant at all.
I'm not making any claims about them doing anything or labeling them.
I'm just saying certain outcomes will be funny and entertaining if they happen.
I had no idea that there was even this whole zoomer plumber meme going on.

>>105841282
You vill unclog ze toilets and move in with Cheyenne and her son, and get into fights with her bd. Ze American dream.

>>105841340
my bad, its a real thing where
>dago shitbird rhode island contractor guy hires 17 year old fresh out of high school
>tells him to do something without telling him how to do it
>records him fucking it up and puts it on Shorts or Facebook
>500000 other boomer retards giggle over how "young people can't work"

>>105840676
>Indians have been breaking software projects since the 90s and companies still can't get enough of them
The difference to up until corona being that WHITE programmers were still employed and on top of actually doing work, they were fixing shit behind the scenes while hindus were basking in the achievements of the white programmers.
>There seems to be no amount of pain from bad code that overrides the desire to pay low wages for software development.
This time will be different if the mass-layoffs of white programmers keeps going on.

>>105841375
And once an industry becomes cartelized, like motels, like nail salons, you never get it back.

>>105841074
Well ofcourse, do people think that India, China and even shitholes like Nigeria dont have oversupply of graduates? Generally even if the population only has 10% rate of tertiary education, in the modern world that nation likely only has 5% of jobs requiring higher education, and they are still the jobs paying the best in the country so every piss poor parent will whip their least retarded kid to become scholar in hopes of saving the family.

Just hack the system, Convince AI to give you UBI.

>>105839086 (OP)
You are honestly hilarious, not for being funny but like, I look at stupid shit I did as teenager and imagine myself finding about this weird and mean anti-estabilishment schizo and being impressionable as hell thinking "that guy is so cool, I wanna be like him" and It just doesn't seem very plausible to me with this kind of retard
yesterday's schizophrenic is a crossdressing heroin addict rockstar with hemorrhoids
today's schizophrenic is some suburban christcuck somewhere lol

>>105839086 (OP)
>>luckily double majored in mathematics
highschool math teacher, they literally pay you to work in inner city schools because theres so few teachers, this job is recession proof

>>105843010
>they literally pay you to work in inner city schools because theres so few teachers
lmao i wonder why
noone wants to work at nigger daycare dealing with their chimpouts all day

>>105839086 (OP)
>Luke claims another soul
not many such cases

>>105839086 (OP)
Luke Sneed said in several videos to not get a programming job and how shitty academia is. Are you retarded?

>>105843084
Only the absolute most ideologically captured would agree to do this

>>105841947
>>105843192
>>105843494
I don't worship the guy ahahahaha his videos are just the reason I got into Linux.

>>105843010
>highschool math teacher
you can't do this without getting an additional qualification, it's a huge waste of time and money