why hasn't fridge technolo/g/y improved ?

Exhausted the search space.

Freezer and fridge separate.
Freezer on bottom.
Freezer on top.
Freezer on left.

There's nothing else to do. That's all the possible combinations. Refrigerator technology is at a dead end.

>>105845410 (OP)
Most of the tech for good devices (60s-70s) has been lost.

Because we already perfected it

that blue light vegetable shit is legit
also why is there no separate compartment for butter in fridges?

>>105845563
>butter compartment
it's on the top left corner of the right door in OP

But why did they get rid of the egg rack 20 years ago?

>>105845591
i dont think mine has it
eggs dont need to be stored in the fridge it's a meme

>>105845594
I suspected that might be the case about eggs. You can keep salted butter out of the fridge too for a couple weeks.

>>105845607
no such thing in evropa
also i want the compartment to be less cold so it's not a brick

>>105845410 (OP)
Because the idea itself is dumb.
>Take energy (electricity) to take energy (heat) from items inside.
It's double loss.

The best fridge design is top freezer
pump your cold air to the top let it sink down into the fridge compartment

simple basic, better seal on the door too so it leaks less air and is even more energy efficient and runs the compressor and other parts less often

never ever buy double door fridges or freezers anywhere but the top

right now when you look for fridges, 90% of the ones you see are the ones purposefully designed to fail faster (french doors, bottom freezer, electronic display, touchscreen, ice maker/water dispenser)

the more shit the fridge is doing the less reliable it gets

>>105845633
In exchange for spending a bunch of energy to make things cold, you get cold things and it turns out people are willing to inefficiently make things cold because making things cold has beneficial effects like slowing down the growth of bacteria so that the food lasts longer and throwing out food less often saves more money than what you spend extra in making the food cold

>>105845410 (OP)
Mine is from 1982.

>>105845410 (OP)
i like how simple they are
t. just had to replace the defrosting fuse in xer fridge a couple days ago

we're clearly in the appliance enshittification phase

>>105845594
>>105845607
Commercial eggs have to be stored in the fridge because their protective films have been washed off
If you ever get hens, you don't have to keep their eggs in the fridge

>>105845410 (OP)
>side-by-side
terrible

>>105845504
Source?

>>105845410 (OP)
It has, but you have to buy a good one.

>>105845793
eggs don't need to be stored in the fridge

>>105845458
What about...freezer in middle?

>>105845644
The top freezer models I have had sucked ass.

>>105845458
Freezer on right (patent pending).

It has, that's why they use a small fraction of the power they used to

>>105845616
>no such thing in evropa
Are you refering to salted butter? If so, you may be interested to know that it is very much a thing in Brittany, where it tends to be the dominant form of butter. It is also widespread in neighboring coastal areas (Normandy to the North, and the rest of the Atlantic seafront to the South), thoughbeit to a lesser extent.

>>105845410 (OP)
It has, you clown

Fridges have been going downhill since CFCs were banned from use.
They use more electricity (like 50x more electricity minimum), they are less reliable (lasting 10 years instead of 50+), and their refrigeration performance is nothing in comparison.

>insulation could be better
>compressor could be quieter

Yes, we need fridges that cool with AI.
That's the future.

>>105845904
The source has been lost

>>105845410 (OP)
Refrigerator and freezer should always just be two completely separate appliances.
Simple as that
Also, a proper (cool) dry storage pantry should be a part of every kitchen.
Also, the entire kitchen should be inside a hermeticly sealed clean room

>>105845644
I prefer bottom freezer because cold air falls, feels more natural.

>>105845967
>>105846189

!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>105845410 (OP)
>why hasn't fridge technolo/g/y improved ?
government regulations is the only reason

what happened to these stupid gel fridges we were supposed to get?

>>105846476
they're one unit because that's how they were originally made and also because it makes sense
the "freezer" used to be where you'd put a big block of ice that was hauled down from the mountains and the fridge stayed cool because of it
today's fridges work basically the same way

>>105846828
It died with the fruitiger aero trend.

I got a french door without an ice maker and making ice with it is such a huge pain like you wouldn't imagine.
I'm never getting anything without an icemaker again.

>>105845410 (OP)
It has regressed, actually
60’s fridges where way better

>>105845591
Eggs are racist didn’t you know?

>>105847466
just get a small stand-alone ice maker
Integrated ice makers are shit and make the whole fridge less reliable.

>>105845793
*American eggs

>>105845410 (OP)
Check out magnet based fridge, read more fucking scientific journals /g/entoomen

>>105847566
>gives you cancer and melts the ozone in you’re path

>>105846310
So would there be a way to use CFCs safely? There's obviously no way to stop an actual moron from releasing it, but most releases were from improper disposal and probably sloppy construction practices? They didn't just leak all the time, right?

>>105847600
Weird how that only started as soon as DuPont's patent expired.

>>105847928
what's a real hoot is how every refrigerant always becomes bad and unsafe the second the patent expires

>>105848046
The feds tend to look away if it hurts an American company. So when the patent expires and non-Americans churn it out is when they act.

Something similar happened with Monsanto. The moment it got bought by a German company they suddenly stopped dragging their feet and it did something about the poison they produce.

I'd like shelves that can reliably be removed to defrost them so I don't have to throw out my 20 kilos of groceries i have in the fridge or get 1000 tons of ice and cool boxes. the shelves on my freezer are detachable but of course they froze stuck

the most obvious but inelegant solution would be to have a localized heating element which can be activated to melt a small amount of ice at the attachment points, but I'm sure there are smarter things you could do

>>105848106
how old is your freezer?
all freezers made in the last 20 years have built in de-humidifiers that prevent ice from building up anywhere

>>105848117
i don't know but I'm fairly certain they were installed just before I moved in which was 2022
I doubt they're older than 20 years, and the ice definitely builds up. most of it is around the ice cube trays though so it's a very humid microenvironment typically

>>105847575
I did not know, how are eggs raysis?

>>105845410 (OP)
Everyone gave up on refrigerating technology after the jews cucked us out of R22

>>105845793
>Commercial eggs
do americans really?

>>105845410 (OP)
they got new fridge tech using magnets
https://youtu.be/PwhhYceuFjM
i guess they could also make fridges that last 50 years again with thicker insulation.

>>105845410 (OP)
It's regressed actually. Hydrocarbons aren't as efficient as HFCs and the oil they use will turn into acid and eat the compressor if there's a leak.

>>105846310
modern fridges use r-600a over CFCs and are significantly more efficient while having the side benefit of not eradicating the ozone layer. retards always equate old with good and new with bad but while grandma's fridge from 1940 still runs, it also eats 5-8x as much electricity for the same performance. It's not just CFCs, it's also insulation and overall design. you're a retard.

>>105845591
eggs come in form-fitting cartons so why bother taking the eggs out of the protective carton

>>105845410 (OP)
it does. just in ways you don't understand (or are too poor to experience)

>>105845644
From an engineering point of view, that might be a good argument but keeping food cold with the least electricity isn't the primary purpose of a fridge. The primary purpose is to make easily available food to the users that has been safely stored. Having the vegetable crisper near eye level makes the use of the produce stored in them more likely. Freezer items are accessed less frequently and don't have the same time pressure that crisper items have, so the lower visibility for freezer items is less important.
There might be a small increase in kwh used per month but that's likely to be less than a dollar. That's a small price to have the time sensitive items in the refrigerated compartment easier to view and access.

>>105850952
Yes, and so does most of the first world. They might not wipe the shit off of them before selling them in your country, but odds are very high that you're buying them from someone and not raising your own flock.
>But I actually do have chickens
Yes, some people do and that's great but the vast majority of people in the first world do not.

>>105851270
>Yes, and so does most of the first world
so as an american you are trying to convince everybody that most developed countries of this world also bleach eggs before sending them to stores?

>>105851365
>the yurocuck thinks american farms are soaking eggs in bleach to turn them white
yeah we have brown eggs here too retard

>>105851196
Ease of access. Some dumb cunt will undoubtedly balance a plate of some shit or another on top of the egg carton. Then there's the whole thing of opening it up, closing it again, putting it back. Much easier to just grab 4 eggs and go.

>>105845410 (OP)
It has but manufacturers just keep making the slop people buy.

>>105851127
You are objectively incorrect. Older fridges perform better and are more energy efficient.

>>105853706
>https://stanfordmag.org/contents/when-to-replace-household-appliances-nitty-gritty
Refrigerators consume half of all kitchen electricity, and typically account for 10 percent to 20 percent of a household’s total energy bill. This, coupled with the fact that the operating efficiency has been improved significantly, makes aging refrigerators obvious first candidates for replacement.
>https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/purchasing-and-maintaining-refrigerators-and-freezers#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20an%20old%20refrigerator,properly%20recycle%20the%20old%20refrigerator.
On average, an old refrigerator uses about 35% more energy than a model that has earned the ENERGY STAR label. If second refrigerator is truly needed, purchasing a larger refrigerator for the extra room will save money and energy over the long term..
>https://www.cleanenergyresourceteams.org/your-old-refrigerator-energy-hog
A 20-year-old refrigerator could use 1,700 kWh of electricity every year, compared with about 450 kWh for a similarly sized new ENERGY STAR model
in b4
>nooo everyone's lying, energystar of david, i'm a schizo faggot and refrigerators are my autism of choice

>>105845513
This but unironically. Unless you change physics, make more efficient compressors or better insulators, nothing can change.

>>105853791
What qualifies as an old refrigerator in this case? One article says 20 years old, the other says pre energy star label which could be late 90s.
CFC fridges were banned from production in the 1st world in the 80s.

>>105851248
>From an engineering point of view, that might be a good argument but keeping food cold with the least electricity isn't the primary purpose of a fridge.
The most important thing to a fridge for me is that keeps things cool and doesn't break down.
I don't give a single shit about it's salad presentation.

>>105845410 (OP)
The next big fridge technology is ditching the compressor. Obviously peltiers are bad and inefficient, but phononic seem to be using black magic to make them more efficient than compressors. also magnetocaloric fridges are in development but they seem a while away since they all use gadolinium or other lanthanides which are way to rare for commercialisation.

>>105845410 (OP)
Fridges have hit a wall. All they have left is marketing tricks. They're a complete dead end that distracts from finding the breakthroughs needed.

>>105848046
>>105848066
i've been regassing my car with propane and isobutane, 60/40 ratio by weight and havent looked back. in the US it's sold as duracool/hc-12a. cools just as well as r12, if not better, runs at lower pressures so your compressor doesn't have to work as hard and you only use 1/3rd of the original refrigerant weight.
the memes of fiery explosions all so happen to come from the same HVAC organisations that dupont pays off. a drunk driver plowed into me head-on and i didn't even realise the refrigerant had escaped till i noticed the condenser was completely rekt. but until that incident, i could turn on the ac on the hottest summer days and it'd get uncomfortably cold after about 15 mins.

>>105845644
>The best fridge design is top freezer
Only works if the outside of the fridge is warm enough to require the compressor to run to keep the fridge part at the required temperature. If the compressor never has to run, the freezer part will thaw. This limits the design from being used in unheated garages in cold parts of the world.

Best is to buy one fridge and one freezer as separate appliances.

>>105845793
>protective films
It's called an egg shell.

...or do they really put plastic on eggs in the US?

>>105845616
>no such thing in evropa
Scandinavia is full of salted butter. One of the reasons heart attacks are common up north. Still absolutely delicious for spreading on bread.

>>105856238
>One of the reasons heart attacks are common up north
that'd be day cycles retard

>>105856225
The shell comes out with a layer of mucus from the chicken that provides an additional waterproofing barrier. This gets washed off in most industrial farms to remove potential salmonella from the bird's feces (eggs and shit come from the same hole), but also means the egg is more vulnerable to later contamination and spoilage unless refrigerated.

>>105845633
Almost like an air conditioner...

>>105855893
That's pretty cool! I might do that with my old Camry as well, the system's leaky now and needs fixing eventually. No problem filling that stuff into an R134a system?

>>105845513
>>105853809
>Unless you change physics
has it been adapted to quantum physics yet though?

>>105845410 (OP)
Electric heat pimps are the future

>>105846828
To many beta testers keep getting cum stuck in it.

>>105857240
>Electric heat pimps
damn right