Wasn't Windows 10 "the last windows"?
Why does Windows 11 exist?
Are there primary differences between Windows 11 and Windows 10?

>>105854814 (OP)
>Wasn't Windows 10 "the last windows"?
Microsoft said it was, yeah
>Why does Windows 11 exist?
Because Microsoft lies. Everyone with a brain knew it was a lie when they first said it.
>Are there primary differences between Windows 11 and Windows 10?
Yes, 11 added even more spyware and more inefficient UIs written by retards for retards.

Microsoft made a rolling release OS, and then dropped it because a TPM 2.0 requirement lets them push new OEM machines with new Windows licences kek.

>>105854835
>more inefficient UIs written by retards for retards.
this is the biggest point against 11 its utter dogshit.

>>105855207
It's better than Mac OSX and Linux UI.

>>105854814 (OP)
Both are significantly better than any Linux distro. PS is more powerful than any shell. You can really choose either

>>105854814 (OP)
>Wasn't Windows 10 "the last windows"?
Some Microsoft employee said it but It wasn't an official Microsoft position.
>Why does Windows 11 exist?
To make Microsoft profit.
>Are there primary differences between Windows 11 and Windows 10?
11 is better in every way except it needs a new CPU and more RAM/disk to work optimally. /g/ babyducks just don't have fast enough hardware so they bitch and moan.

>>105855324
>11 is better in every way except it needs a new CPU and more RAM/disk to work optimally. /g/ babyducks just don't have fast enough hardware so they bitch and moan.
This is a legitimate complaint. There's no reason to get a new computer when you already have one that works perfectly fine. It's one of the reasons that 11 has such a low adoption rate, people don't want to buy new computers when there's nothing wrong with their old one, just to use a new version of an OS that was also already working fine and didn't need any upgrade. You're just going to end up with tons of unsupported Windows 10 computers.

>>105855289
>4 different window styles dating back to Windows XP
>2 different methods to reach System Settings, some only visible in one or the other
>press some setting in Win11 UI, end up in some WinXP settings menu
>right click has insane delay
>right click is useless, you need to right click and then press more. Those are visibly different context menus.
>microsoft edge has another version of right click context menu when its literally from Microsoft itself
>explorer is visibly slow and laggy
>wasted space everywhere
>darkmode is inconsistent

and that is just from the top of my head.
The design in modern Windows is so inconsistent it is actually crazy.
In Linux you at least only end up with QT and GTK windows which at least try to conform.

>You need to buy a new computer so you can upgrade to Windows 11
>>What was wrong with my old computer?
>Nothing, but we aren't going to support its hardware anymore, so you'll have to buy a new one
>>Why should I do that? What does Windows 11 offer me over Windows 10 that would justify this purchase?
>Absolutely nothing, but we'll stop giving you security updates for Windows 10. That's the only reason.

Wow what a sales pitch

>>105855348
No I totally agree. I just like poking the ducks. It has been the same for virtually every Windows release though. The user experience hasn't improved substantially since XP SP2 and that ran incredibly well on a Pentium 4 with 256MB RAM and a 32GB drive.

>>105855355
I use Mac OSX daily and Windows 11 daily. OSX is much worse.

Linux I haven't used in a while but I remember it being garbage. If not even Apple can make a good UI I have little faith for Linux.

>>105855368
Pentium III*

>>105855387
Do you actually know how to use it or are you just trying to do everything the Windows way on macOS? That shit ain't intuitive, there are whole videos out there explaining how exactly you're supposed to use macOS to do basically anything.

>>105855366
Stop Killing Windows when?

>>105855423
Probably spot on. I'm mostly used to Linux but had to use a Mac for the past 3 years at work. Some things felt odd but ultimately they weren't bad. Mainly about the file browser. Now, I'm using windows 11 for a new job and it's terrible. Everything is so unintuitive. Yesterday morning I opened my laptop and all my windows were closed. I had like 15 different windows, including multiple private Firefox windows because I was testing some stuff and I didn't want the cache or cookies interfering with the main session. All gone. Because bill gates thought I NEEDED these updates and I couldn't wait until the weekend. What the actual fuck??? But I'm willing to believe that if you grew up with windows, used it for many years, then you can use it quite normally. I couldn't find the setting to disable automatic updates, only set some "active hours", bitch I want to decide when to reboot.

>>105855435
>>105855366
>justify this purchase
Windows 11 is a free upgrade from Windows 10, there is no purchase.

>>105855464
I'm referring to the purchase of a new computer you retarded faggot

Linus ix better

Win11 is Win10, actually.
Just open cmd.exe and run ```ver```
(11 is all just M$ marketing bs.)

>>105854814 (OP)
>>105854835
no they didn't you brain dead nigger
now post the official MS source where they said so or shut the fuck up

>>105854814 (OP)
Because macOS. Microsoft wants to be apple, this is also the reason why they skipped windows 9. When macOS went to 11 they followed too.

>>105855355
Are you me? it's utter dogshit, what a mis-mash.

>>105855836
winver for the, uh... win

>>105854814 (OP)
No.

>>105854835
No.

>>105855324
He said "last Windows" as in "latest Windows", which is obvious if you actually listen to the Ignite 2014 presentation - it's all over YouTube.
I consider it a pretty good demonstration of the collective IQ of /g/ that they're still parroting the same clickbait Verge article (if I recall) after a decade.

>>105855207
If the biggest point against windows is that it's UI is less efficient while the alternative is:
- Just breaks
- propietary on hardware with 0 compatibility

Then windows won

>>105855355
>>4 different window styles dating back to Windows XP
How is this a problem? Are you a baby?
>>2 different methods to reach System Settings, some only visible in one or the other
How is this a problem?
>>press some setting in Win11 UI, end up in some WinXP settings menu
How is this a problem?
>>right click has insane delay
Just use a faster PC, turn on performance mode if your pc is shit
>>right click is useless, you need to right click and then press more. Those are visibly different context menus.
Not a problem
>>microsoft edge has another version of right click context menu when its literally from Microsoft itself
Who uses edge? Also not a problem
>>explorer is visibly slow and laggy
Refer to new PC
>>wasted space everywhere
SSD are dirt cheap
>>darkmode is inconsistent
Theres a million ways to fix this.

>>105855447
>All gone. Because bill gates thought I NEEDED these updates and I couldn't wait until the weekend.
It's because you didn't turn the setting off Anon

>>105854814 (OP)
>Wasn't Windows 10 "the last windows"?
yeah, for a lot of people
>Why does Windows 11 exist?
greed
>Are there primary differences between Windows 11 and Windows 10?
what

>>105855368
The difference here is that any computer that can run Windows 10 well could also run Windows 11 well and the hardware requirements of 11 are not about making sure it just performs well, but to specifically lock out older systems to sell newer hardware.

>>105856040
you are incorrect, with windows 10 it became a rolling release basically, with bi annual feature updates, and w11 is just windows 10 i disguise, it litterally carries the same nt major version, other than the ui, its basically the same os.

>>105855447
I'm afraid you're in the lower IQ percentage, plus have issues with changes in your environment like a true autist. How can Win 11, be considered less intuitive than fucking Mac or Linux. You're either a liar or a person with immense adaptation issues.

>>105856040
>hundreds of articles in the internet explaining "no, you all got it wrong, nobody ever said that windows 10 will be the last one"
If everyone thought for years that it was a rolling release, it means that people were scammed, not that they all coincidentally "misunderstood" something.

>>105857081
>Just use a faster PC, turn on performance mode if your pc is shit
I bought ssd because it was impossible to use windows 10, I has the worst lags in my life (despite linux working fast with HDD). I've already spent all the money reserved for hardware upgrades enforced by windows, sorry. This time microsoft will have to fix their shitty code.

>>105858644
>This time microsoft will have to fix their shitty code.
They are not gonna do it, they don't care about you. Either you change or get left behind.

>>105854814 (OP)
>Are there primary differences between Windows 11 and Windows 10?
One notable difference is that Windows 11 can make proper use of CPUs with >64 threads

Before win11, a single process was limited to using 64 logical CPUs, and getting above this limit required a conscious effort from the software developer. Most didn't bother. And even if they did, scheduling still wouldn't work optimally.

Explanation for codecels: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/procthread/processor-groups#behavior-starting-with-windows-11-and-windows-server-2022

BTW that 64 limit was the best case scenario. If the total number of CPU threads wasn't divisible by 64, it would be even less. For example, if your processor has 96 CPU threads, each process would be limited to using just 48 logical CPUs, because each processor group has to have an equal number of logical CPUs (but no larger than 64).

>>105855423
I've been using Mac OSX for 6 years now. Some examples include trying to paste the path into the save file dialog. You have to hit forward slash, delete, and then paste it in. The other day I did something off and the screen was locked and I couldn't type or paste anything. Had to close the save dialog window and then re-save again and paste the path. Just tons of buggy UI shit like that, especially with copy and paste. Copy and paste doesn't work everywhere and it's so frustrating.

>>105854835
>Because Microsoft lies. Everyone with a brain knew it was a lie when they first said it.
That's the most pathetic part of this. Everyone knew the announcement that Windows 10 was the last version of Windows was obviously bullshit.

>>105855876
You either have the memory of a goldfish or you're an underage zoomer
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

>>105858579
>m-millions of people cant be fucktardedly stupid
Now do Africa.
Now do "81 million votes for Biden."
etc.

>>105859692
>The Verge
>>105856040

>>105856040
>He said "last Windows" as in "latest Windows"
No he didn't. They even followed up on it by clarifying they wanted to go the SaaS route with Windows

>>105854814 (OP)
Linux is the new mainstream bruh

>>105859727
>false advertising and marketing scams don't exist, literally every time it's because people are stupid and "accidentally" misunderstood something
>the fact that every time they thought it's good for them and every time it turned out to be profitable for company is a pure coincidence

>>105858957
the fagt is, computers havent changed since xp, windows was complete at 7, and the existence of linux proves that windows is an unnecessary expense. the only value proposition microsoft makes to its customers is azure, everything else is monopoly rent extraction

>>105859624
>tons of buggy UI shit
its insane, they couldnt just not break what was working because they needed to justify themselves by changing stuff, like gnome 3. all ux developers need to be executed for sabotage

>>105855289
Lol
Lmao
Modern Mac machine with Apple Sillicon shits on both Windows and every Linux distro and DE

>>105860574
I use Mac OSX and Windows 11 daily, Mac OSX more hours than Windows probably. OSX sucks donky balls.

>>105860719
The fact that you're still calling it 'OSX' despite that name was phased out almost 10 years ago tells me enough that you're very likely using it (and probably also Windows and computers in general) wrong.

>>105854814 (OP)
You misheard.

Windows 10 was the last good Windows.

>>105860826
OK, how do you navigate to a directory in save dialog instantly without having to traverse a ton of folders, besides copying the directory path and hitting forward slash then pasting it? Because you're saying that's using it wrong.

>>105860889
Just click on one of your favorite directories or recents? Literally the same as Windows, Gnome or KDE. Is this rocket science to you?

>>105860826
>you're still calling it 'OSX' despite that name was phased out almost 10 years ago
> i let the homosexual ceo tell me what words to use

>>105854814 (OP)
appeariently windows 10 was not enough spyware integrated

>>105854814 (OP)
Windows 12 when?

>>105859692
>verge.com
that's a strange way to spell microsoft you subhuman brain dead piece of shit

>>105860918
>t. homo retard that's never used it
it's not been version 10 for a long while

>>105860913
Directory isn't there.

>>105861050
Sounds like a you problem. Aka you're using it wrong.

>have a laptop with a 7th gen intel processor
>according to microsoft it's literal ewaste and i should dispose of it
>install any user friendly linux distro on it
>it boots faster than a new equivalent laptop model with win 11 on it

>>105860989

>>105861117
How so? Why would /User/me/Developer/workspace/application/some/nested/path/of/stuff/ be in there? And how would it know to have it?

>>105857112
>yeah, for a lot of people
So true, when windows 10 is no longer supported by anything ill just switch to linux

>>105855348
my windows 7 machine has 32 gigs of ram and over 20 tb of storage, maybe you should just kill yourself daleet.

>>105861355
makes sense for a third-world nonwhite (argentinian) to hate apple products.
also, those Macs were pre-broken.

>>105855289
what "Linux UI"? there is no one UI for linux, you can make it a carbon copy of whatever windows version you like most if you wanted to

>>105854814 (OP)
>Why does Windows 11 exist?
The guy who promised 10 would be the last version, doesn't work there anymore. It's like any other company. When a manager quits or gets fired, all the rules he made up disappear.

>>105862866
>doesn't work there anymore.
Clarification: he doesn't work in that department anymore. It's Jerry Nixon btw

>>105862894
Another clarification: Terry Myerson decided there would be no Windows 11. Jerry Nixon announced it. Terry left Microsoft and Jerry no longer works for the Windows department, he works in Azure

>>105855836
I agree windows 11 is not something completely new, just a build off on windows 10 with some additional untested stuff with bugs. Just a marketing thing *basedjak excited*

>>105862866
he was never in charge of anything even related to windows development

>>105862944
already clarified, see >>105862921
thanks for trying though

>>105862959
kill yourself you braindead nigger
he has literally never touched anything to do with windows development

>>105863002
>doesnt even live in redmond
>some product manager sql server monkey in some backwater business apps shithole
>retards still use this retard as a source for their verge trash "proof"

>>105863002
He was in charge of announcing Microsofts plans for Windows at least once. Also my dad works at MS and says you sound retarded

>>105863208
>in charge of some shitty windows launch party for e-thots
>that makes him the president of windows
My dad is Bill Gates and he says you subhuman coping niggers should go lynch yourselves.

>>105857081
>>105858658
literal microjeet

>>105854814 (OP)
they are selling you something. they will make claims that aren't always true as long as you keep buying/using it.

>>105854814 (OP)
they needed to implement hardware based encryption and make it mandatory, the poors had to be left behind