Thread 105865371

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AItTqnTsVjA
He's right, Windows is responsible for total GUI stagnation, it's by far one of the worst still, 0 advancements for a better user experience.

>>105865371 (OP)
>freetardtroons seething over the White man's work on win32
>NEVER provide any better viable alternative
like clockwork

>rectangles and buttons
that is literally peak GUI design for a 2d display, it just doesn't get any better than that

>>105865371 (OP)
Was that the video in which he claimed we should have mouse-only controls?

>>105865371 (OP)
Windows 95 and Mac OS 7 through 9 were some of the best designed desktop operating systems ever made. Hell, they are some of the best UI designs ever made. Everything since has been a downgrade.

>>105865371 (OP)
this is honestly one of my favourite videos on youtube

How come multiuser OSes don't seem to share the gui when multiple people log in together? An OS should have a shared gui so a dozen people could all log in and see what each other is doing.

>>105865371 (OP)
holy fuck the uptalk is UNBEARABLE

>>105870272
for me it's the ANGRY SCREAMING

>>105870313
I didn't even get to that part. How the fuck can people listen to this for over an hour?

>>105870353
they dont suffer from same issue as you

>>105870389
>issue
It's an issue to not have brainrot nowadays? Alright then

>>105870398
Being able to listen to a person is brainrot you retard?

>>105865371 (OP)
Let me guess, you *need* more?

>>105870407
Being able to listen to a guy who uptalks for over an hour without getting a massive headache is a feat, I'll give you that. Maybe your braincells have already rotted away.

>muh mouse gestures
imagine waving your mouse around like an autistic harry potter when you could just press a key on your keyboard

>>105870472
>Let me guess you need more? You want something better? I'm content with using something shitty and think I'm better than you for it because I'm lazy and stupid and unimaginative

>>105865446
BeOS was slightly better, IMHO, but very similar.
Slightly more efficient on space.
Has more of a “max headroom” vibe to it.

The thing I dislike most about Windows 11 is the tiny scroll bars
>just use the scroll wheel
Not convenient for long pages

>>105865371 (OP)
Then code what you want to see.

You have AI now so there should be no more whinging about not getting what you want someone else to gib you for nothing.

>>105872121
I have something better, the inherently more precisely configurable command line.

>>105865371 (OP)
>2000 & ME
>these are the best GUIs Microsoft has come up with
He's 100% right

Any good resources for legacy Windows and Mac GUI stuff?

Open source your game code now or else!

>>105865371 (OP)
>liked bluecurve and extensis
I knew he was based

>>105865371 (OP)

reads in ark intel speak to processor feature wtf

>>105874514
>there should be no more whinging about not getting what you want
I think the point is ms constantly making customization harder with each release, which did make me switch to linux when 7 came out and I lost all of my xp themes

>>105872504
Looks like rectangles and buttons to me.

>>105865446
CUA with faux 3d embossing was perfect.

>>105865371 (OP)
All of this is solved by keyboard-centric window managers.

>>105876369
He complains about that and says we should focus on mouse shortcuts instead

>>105870389
ESLs shouldn't be posting.

>>105870472
i need this as a 90% accurate linux DE
>chicag-
no.

>>105876369
I don't get the people who are modifying config files and making 2000 custom ahk scripts on windows, you may as well just switch to linux at that point. You can't really use the "i dont want to use the command line it's too hard" excuse any more.

>>105865371 (OP)
Is this just him ranting about his aesthetic preferences for an hour?

His custom UI is ugly as fuck.

>>105876671
He freely admits this.

>>105876623
>I don't get the people who are modifying config files and making 2000 custom ahk scripts on windows
Forced to use shitdows because the office IT janny can't into linux or macoc

>>105865456
yes, and he is right.
only linuxtrannies disagree.

>>105877083
Imagine being such a fucking zoomer that you associate typing on keyboards with freetards.

>>105865456
https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/mouse_vs._keyboard/index.html

>>105877142
Plan 9 has the most fucked up user interface of all time and I do not care about its simps' opinions on HCI.

>>105876671
the 2002 screenshots looked nice

>>105876623
the guy uses a bunch of proprietary machinima tools that probably don't run all that well in linux. i agree otherwise, especially since MS tries to fight you every step of the way if you change shells.

>>105876671
>the ui is not pleasing to the eye of dashneequa doordasha, a 23 year old stanford bachelor of product design therefore its bad okay???
a white man finds it useful and believes it looks good enough to not be an eyesore therefore appeal to beauty is invalid

>>105877402
The entire intro to the video is just bunch of appeals to beauty. I found it ironic that he shit on a bunch of UIs only to show one that looked 10x worse.

started watching and so far he basically just remade existing windows 10 functionality
- hiding the desktop icons is just not putting shortcuts on the desktop
- the desktop right click menu is just the w10 start menu but worse
- the hidden system tray is just the hidden system tray
if he just updated to 10 and learned how to use the operating system many of his problems would be solved

>>105877407
he knows it looks like shit, part of the video is him complaining how he had to compromise because windows kept breaking everything each update and how his workflow wont even work on 10

>>105877407
it's noble to pursue beauty but the system should always prioritize functionality, the modern windows design is plainly retarded and any attempts to make it more functional at the cost of beauty are worth it
though I agree that he may have went too far, for me startallback+total commander was sufficient to make windows less disgusting - just 2 programs and you get rid of the retarded react native ui, get a reasonable quick access to the common programs, and attach the taskbar to the side of the screen while not making it all look too alien to my inner dashneequa

>>105877424
The goal isn't the functionality but how it looks, you retard.

>>105876475
But that makes no sense, because he complains that humans are naturally imperfect. Mouse movements are the most inaccurate part of humans. Pressing buttons is way more accurate and predictable. He's literally contradicting himself.

>>105870353
I thought this at first watching Freeman's Mind but his voice really grew on me, hell I think that's how I got the willpower to start narrating videos I made :)

>>105877159
This text is not from plan9 simps but plan9 dev (ken Thompson, father of unix).

>>105865371 (OP)
Dude's the ultimate mousecuck. He elaborated further in the comments that programmers are more keyboard-centric in their UI design since they're spending all their time typing, which contrasts with audio/video editing which is all mouse-centric and lends itself better to whatever abomination he's come up with. Probably true, but the programmers are the ones making the interfaces and the youtube editors aren't. Frankly I couldn't disagree more with every point he makes, but the single ounce of truth you can walk away from the video with is that the most ideal UI has keybinds for everything when your hands are on the keyboard, has gestures for everything when your hands are on the trackpad, and has hot corners/squiggles for when your hands are on the mouse. but no programmer wants to have that much fucking contingency in their project when they're enacting TOTAL MOUSE DEATH with their ebin window manager setup.

>>105880679
He thinks that if he yells his points, it's going to make them any more correct.

>>105880773
That's how the world works.