Thread 105883051

Why are so many tech businesses moving to Europe recently?

They are trying to corrupt EU. It’s demonic in nature.

The US has become more or less a dictatorship and is threatening to invade the free world

Cheaper labor costs for software development.

>>105883051 (OP)
Europoors are getting cocky again. Look how that worked out for you in 1945.

It's probably the fact they are willing to use their intelligence agencies to steal other nations IP to prop up European businesses and willingness to enact a de facto tax on non-European rivals.
Absolute scum you are not seeing a penny.

>>105883098
India is cheaper and Indians are better educated and smarter than Whites.

>>105883098
This. You can hire a bunch of eastern yuropoors rather than pajeets there and the bulgarian guy will be far less of an incompetent bumbling retard while already only expecting $40k/yr as normal yuropoor pay

>>105883098
Cheap labor is only cheap if there are no worker's rights

America is hell on earth

>>105883145
>Sub 70IQ population
>Technically they can be considered clinically retarded if they were born in the west
>hurr durr they're better educated
Yeah, better education in the 1000 student durgasoft classes with no interaction with the teacher and no proper programming techniques being taught.

>>105883145
keep coping, shitskin! It's not hard to be smarter than an amerimutt lookin' ass motherfucker!

>>105883145
Saar

>>105883145
>India is cheaper
But good luck finding anyone competent there at those prices.
>Indians are better educated and smarter than Whites.
That's projecting your Americuck experience.

>>105883145
Chinamen mog Indiacucks

>Why
He explained in the excerpt that you posted
>so many
This is just one company

>>105883051 (OP)
You get the exact same skills as amerifat devs for half or even third the salary. It's a no brainer really, and the maangs are slowly realising it. Amazon opened up a big office in Berlin, Microsoft is moving a lot of shit to Munich, etc.

>>105883051 (OP)
You might as well ask why businesses move to India.
Of course because they are fucking poor and cheap.
And i say this as a European.
What i would earn in the USA, for doing my job, is ridiculous. That is a completely different world.

>>105883051 (OP)
>so many tech businesses
name 3

>>105887278
Spotify, Klarna, Revolut

>>105887313
They didn't move to europe, they all started in europe

>>105883145
Didn't a study come out that said that 95% software engineers in india cant even write hello world?

>>105883145
India's achievements: nothing

>>105883905
Yes for illegal immigrants and very good.

>>105887469
No. Fizzbuzz

>>105883133
the eu is a fan of taxing and fining usa companies.

>>105889736
The USA companies are a fan of cutting corners and not obeying regulations that EU firms have no trouble doing

>>105890046
You are by far and I mean by far collectively the most corrupt nations on the planet and by an absolute mile the worst place for anyone with any amount of money to do business.
If anyone else openly committed extremely serious fraud with impunity, bragged about it online and fully admitted it then and also broke international law in the process there would be severe legal repercussions (its cool though if it benefits you)
I am not paying any amount of tribute to your pet Nazi retard, not ever. Give up.

>>105883051 (OP)
>>105883067
>>105890046
>>105883133

>immune to US regulatory bullshit
What is the US CLOUD act?

>>105886271
>You get the exact same skills as amerifat devs for half or even third the salary
I dunno why this retardation keeps getting spread, just because Europeans take less money home doesn't mean they're cheaper for businesses. Higher taxes, better employee protections and lots and lots of government red tape make doing business in Europe significantly more difficult and basically just as expensive as in the US.

>>105891019
Make a gofundme about it, golem

The fuck is SourceHut?

>>105883145
nice try Rajesh

>>105892203
something from the days of old. freshmeat, kuro5hin, ...

>>105892203
bootleg (I mean really bootleg) github

>>105883051 (OP)
USA is at the end of the day. by the time you wake up half the world is finished work. japan is already at tomorrow. early bird gets the worm and west coast USA is the unearliest worm.

>>105883051 (OP)
your screenshot clearly says he voted Dem

>>105883145
> 8 (You)s
congrats

>>105883051 (OP)
drew is a commiepedotroon, therefore its obvious that xhe wants to migrate to a place with lower consest age.

>>105883867
Tech "workers" in the US expect benefits, vacation days, paternal leave, etc and won't get a job without them on top of a high salary.

Europe in that case will be cheaper.

>>105893166
I don't know anyone in USA who has more than one week of vacation.
This is actually the reason why salaries are high. They won't allow you to take ANY day off, even UNPAID vacation because they want someone to be at workplace at all times.

>>105883098
this data is weird. is it pulling top 10% earners for sr SWE? for uk and usa the numbers given are top 10%
for germany it is giving the top 5%
must be glass door data?

>>105893191
if you are going to lie try making it believable by using realistic numbers.

retarded neets trying to propagandize online struggle with coming up with even remotely believable numbers for some reason.

workers in the USA do get less vacation time than europeans. trying to say they get 1 week of vacation a year is beyond retarded

>>105893258
Silicon valley definitely gets one week or even less. And they also work more than 40 hours.
There ARE good paying jobs in USA especially blue collar jobs oddly enough. If you are good at it that is. But silicon valley when you take into account how much more work you do per month and the cost of living, it is just not worth it for majority of jobs there. You are better off becoming a plumber.

>>105893282
ive got a question taht will clear up this discussion a bit:
are you an indian talking to indians who work in SF? in which case, yeah those are fraudulent h1b workers who are slaving away in quite unusual conditions. though the SWE market is absolutely chock full of h1b fraud right now so it would be fair to say that those arent unusual conditions.

talk to workers who arent a part of the h1b fraud scheme and you will have more realistic answers

>>105893318
No, I am European and I am talking primarily to Asians but also some whites.

>>105893350
how many of these people are not h1b? maybe you arent lying but you should understand those are highly unusual conditions. as an intern at a startup making min wage i accrued 2 weeks of PTO yearly.

>There ARE good paying jobs in USA
yeah no shit. literally every skilled career pays better. even if the USA worker was paying the full out of pocket maximum for a family insurance plan a year they make more and are taxed less in virtually any job.

all of those heckin wholesome chungus social policies like free healthcare and infinite welfare actually cost a lot of money. euros probably also have so many regulations that it stifles economic activity too though ive never read into it.

its weird how many people think economics is just magic. like alright, you have a very lenient, reliable social net for the population, and healthcare costs are taken care of in advance so the worker doesnt have to worry about it. it's not magic, those things cost a lot of money. europeans pay like 50% taxes and get paid like 30% less. thats just the tradeoff. thats the way of life for them. is it necessary that everyone has the same way of life?

>>105893563
I don't know, I generally don't ask these things, I assume the asians are on some form of visa. But they also collect a much higher wage than Indians do, Indians typically collect somewhere in range 60k-80k in silicon valley from what I heard. Everyone I know is slightly above 100k

>>105893633
you are without a doubt talking to h1b slaves. 60k wouldnt even get you a studio apartment in SF. its a very expensive city to live in

>>105893658
60k is what Indians get, like I said the people I talk to are all slightly over 100k

>>105893673
oh yeah i misread your post. still the living conditions you are describing + that salary in SF (very expensive city) + 35% of us swe are h1b anyway makes it nearly certain theyre h1b workers.
your assumptions about working as a software eng in USA might be fair anyway though because we have a corrupt h1b system and ltierally half of all eng jobs are held by immigrants most of which are indian. its over.

>>105883067
calling the antichrist a dictator is disrespectful he prefers to be called emperor or god

>>105883098
>m-money isn't everything!

>>105893830
You might be right because like I mentioned, blue colar seem (at least to me) to not have that issue, which is weird because when I was young, programmers used to have higher wages by like a factor of 2 or 3

>>105883867
The US has no workers rights and isn't cheap.

>read thread
>see outragous claim about americans getting only one week of per year
>have a good laugh
>"as an intern at a startup making min wage i accrued 2 weeks of PTO yearly"
uhhh.. ameribros, can someone cue me in? what are the actual average paid vacation days per year?
and you have to work yourself up to them?
i await your answers, with a bit of dread, i must say