IS CYBERSECURITY WORTH GETTING INTO?

I CAN GET A CYBERSECURITY DEGREE FROM WGU ONLINE WITH ALL RELEVANT CERTS IN 2-3 YEARS

I AM A 25 YO NEET INCEL BUT WOULD LIKE TO GET MY SHIT TOGETHER

WHAT ARE MY LONG TERM JOB PROSPECTS LIKE?

WHAT ARE MY CHANCES OF GETTING REPLACED BY AI/ PAJEETS?

WHAT ARE MY SALARY EXPECTATIONS?

THANKS

>>105895239 (OP)
It's a meme atm. Basically glorified helpdesk in practice. I'd say go for it, the market seems good due to it's meme factor.

>>105895239 (OP)
The entry-level market everywhere in tech is grim right now, cyber included.

>>105895239 (OP)
It's difficult to get into and the required certification for high pay is cissp and demands 5yoe to even be allowed to take the exam for gatekeeping purposes. You can specialize in multiple areas like pen testing, all requiring an endless grind of certifications and zero guarantee of a job

>>105895239 (OP)
You sound like you have zero skills and are a leech on society, so cybersecurity is perfect for you

>>105895344
or just join the army and do it there :-)

>>105895769
Not OP but how do I sign up

>>105895894
Learn what secure systems look like off of some framework and then do consulting work off of that. CMMC for more blue collar, HIPAA and SOC for more white collar.

>>105895239 (OP)
>>105892877
Two threads in 6 hours.
Cybersecurity is the new web development.
In some years it will be full of low iq people that wants easy gibs.
Abandon ship. /sec/ is doomed.

>>105895239 (OP)
the degree is worthless.
only certs matter.
idk.
most cybersecurity is SOC work which is 1 above helpdesk. and unless you have a government defense client its all jeets already.
not good entry level. there is a glass ceiling to look up to top 0.001% but those are prodigies / people with 20 years networking experience.
also demand for cybersecurity is fake since people want 20 yoe.

best thing to do is a defense force cybersecurity program.
irreplacable
interesting and work that'll either get you poached or you stay comfy within the defense force.

>>105895999
>SOC work
What do you even need to get to that place?
The SOC team at our company seems to be just a bunch of randos and we are the biggest quasi monopoly ISP in the country.
They don't seem to do all that much either aside from managing microsoft shit and maintaining a sophos vpn.

>>105895239 (OP)
do it
better than doing nothing

>>105895239 (OP)
NGMI

>>105896021
it used to just be a pulse when the economy was good.
but I wouldn't know now since I don't work in SOC but those who barely graduated their IT degree did either SOC or QA.

>>105896046
no its not better than doing nothing

>>105895982
We knew this 5 years ago when colleges started advertising it like crazy

>>105895239 (OP)
i made a thread like this about webdev 2 years ago
everyone said it was fucking over
and it kinda is
but i still got an internship and now im on a somewhat comfy job compared to what I had available before
idk be good and get lucky

>>105895999
>the degree is worthless.
I wouldn't say that. It doesn't help with your job and you can't use it to get a job sure, BUT everyone else has one already. Why would they take some guy that doesn't have one?

>>105896080
the only way youre going to get a cybersec job is by doing bug bounties for cheap

>>105895822
Someone here doing that as well. ;-)

>>105896089
what about the dude that does those bug bounties for cheap and has a degree? He'll get a job before the degreeless guy

>>105895239 (OP)
If you need to ask and you don't even have the energy to search this information yourself. You are not going to make it in this field.

>>105896116
cyber sec is like art or music in that you can verify the portfolio with your eyes.

>>105895239 (OP)
Bro at 25 age people are already half way through their PhDs or jumped ship after BSc and have years of experience. It is over, just let it go.

>>105896152
does the people hiring know that?

>>105895239 (OP)
cysec is huge. it depends. there are shitloads of different directions. right now im in GRC - shit sucks. all day every day im wasting time with policies and processes, preparing shit for audits, and once audit is over - im starting to prepare to next one. it fucking sucks. i hate it. i do nothing but paperwork 99% of time and the rest 1% of time im trying to figure-out how to unfuck yet another dumb shit that would result in deviation in a yet another audit my corp hell is applying for.
if u will be getting into cysec - at least go for something fun, like pentesting, network security, some analyst, or just generally something that is not gonna turn your day into endless paperwork treadmill.
fuck GRC.

>>105896160
kill yourself, retard
at age 25 the majority of people never stepped foot in a college and struggle to pay rent

>>105895822
>>105896091
glow

>>105896152
You can say all you want, but HR and the people hiring want a reliable employee in a delicate field like cybersecurity.
You need or a degree or years of experience in related fields. Best if you have both.

>>105896170
Meet people outside your loser circle. You'd be surprised how much effort everyone puts into their careers. Physics, Eng and such are maybe fine to start slightly later, but anything CS-related? You should've started learning at 14 at the latest.

ah yes the new LEARN TO CODE

>WHAT ARE MY LONG TERM JOB PROSPECTS LIKE?
>WHAT ARE MY CHANCES OF GETTING REPLACED BY AI/ PAJEETS?
cybersecurity took off thanks to ransomware putting the fear of god in big corpos
(which btw i'm very thankful for, thank you gandcrab, revil, lockbit, conti, etc etc)
the problem is, ransomware operations seem to be getting tougher to run, thats according to Hunters International who shut down operations recently citing problems with escalating legal troubles and less profits
and indeed if you do things correctly, you dont have to worry about ransomware anymore. some solutions detect it and immediately rollback any changes, hence the shift to data theft instead (that most companies dont give a shit about)
with phishing resistant credentials, memory-safe applications, hawkish XDR solutions, and other security solutions, i'm not sure if cybersecurity will be the major field like it is today in a decade or so
in fact i feel like the future market for cybersecurity is mainly just compliance, having a dude there auditing stuff because grc

>>105895982
>In some years
uhhh... that is already the case.

>>105895239 (OP)
I'd recommend getting a CS or EE degree instead. You'll have a broader range of options in case it ends up not being fruitful or what you expected. Also, both have existed for longer thus bear more prestige.

>>105896160
Retard take

>>105895239 (OP)
>IS CYBERSECURITY WORTH GETTING INTO?

If you're not a jeet or a troon you'll never get into it

>>105897252
Cybersecurity has been a personal hobby of mine for a long time. That's the only reason I'm considering it. That and because it pays more than I can make as a tradie. I've previously tried doing a CS degree but it was torturous to build normie tier apps and websites so I dropped it.