The 50% tipping point for IPv6 is just weeks away on Google, with reports coming out that ipv4 addresses are being bought by scammers to route malicious scraper traffic through CGNAT so it's hard to ban them without blocking legitimate traffic is kind of turning admins against IPv4. In fact i expect IPv4 will be massively phased out soon just like they killed TLS 1.0. In fact all it will take is Cloudflare requiring IPv6.

It's almost impossible to edit Wikipedia unless you have an isp without CGNAT because of LTAs and it's happening to a lot of ISPs with IoT devices. There's just too much traffic on the internet for IPv4 too work, and even if you take the racist suggestion of only letting certain countries have the internet you still have all the IoT stuff to deal with. The number of internet connected devices is growing exponentially, only a baby duck wants to keep using ipv4 in 2010, let alone 2025.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/11/afrinic_election_annulled_why/

>>105902579 (OP)
I agree, anyone who has any "privacy concerns" about the ipv6 spec and even cares about any online anonymity is just a schizo extemist, probably a pedo too.

Especially recently when these conspiracy theorist goys talk about how Clodflare is a huge man in the middle attack on the internet and how they on purpose DDOS websites that don't use them so they have to use Clodflare too.
Just because Clodflare can do full TLS decryption on all your traffic doesn't mean anything to you unless you are someone who wants to post hatespeech and pedofile content online.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/policies/gateway/http-policies/tls-decryption/

>>105902579 (OP)
Man, if 4chin does finally roll out ipv6, the shitposters will have infinite ip to fuck with.

>>105902579 (OP)
>redditor uses logic
the correct solution to spam is not a retard's ip ban, but to uniquely fingerprint the user by device.
if persistent fingerprints are le bad, then you should not be using ipv6, which allows you to fingerprint the user by device. remember the end goal is to eliminate nat, ie. pass the user device's ip straight through.
>>105902786
ip banners will say you can slowly expand the ranges you ban on. but aside from the false positives you'll get if enough spammers exist on the same range, it's still a nonlinear amount of addresses you can use before you exhaust a range.

>>105902764
What if I am a whistleblower who wants to disclose information that would implicate public defenders, politicians, bankers, and wealthy "philanthropists" such as Bill Gates?

Unfortunately, for people in this position, it is extremely hard to keep your life AND tell the truth. These people will threaten you, your family, your friends, anything to keep the truth hidden.

The ends of justice require just means. It is unfortunate consequence the current state of privacy oriented technology that can protect whistleblowers from criminals would also enable criminal activity.

>>105902579 (OP)
How will ipv6 affect 4chan bans? Will it become easier or harder for mods to stop ban evaders?

>>105902579 (OP)

I live in a founding OECD country, my ISP offer synchronous 10 Gbit but not IPv6 yet. At ALL, you cannot ask for it, it is not in their offerings at all.

There is NO WAY we are ANYWHERE NEAR a IPv4 phaseout.

>>105902579 (OP)
>it's another /g/ doesn't get networking thread

>ipv4 addresses are being bought by scammers to route malicious scraper traffic through CGNAT
>It's almost impossible to edit Wikipedia unless you have an isp without CGNAT
so the problem is CGNAT, some huenigger shit i've never even seen
>admins against IPv4
>IPv4 will be massively phased out soon
>There's just too much traffic on the internet for IPv4
>baby duck wants to keep using ipv4
yet you're trying to make it sound like an IPv4 problem

>>105904080
those are the best tho, the dunning kruger levels are regularly off the charts

>>105904036
>synchronous 10 Gbit
do you mean symmetric?

>>105903965
4chan ban system is complicated. its not just ips they can track. they use cookie data and browser tricks. this is why the mobile 4chan apps usually break because they're just a old version of chrome running with a custom theme.

>>105902579 (OP)
That's neat, maybe one of these days bell will start supporting ipv6.

>>105904036
name and shame(/praise)

>>105902579 (OP)
>In fact i expect IPv4 will be massively phased out soon just like they killed TLS 1.0.
Good, that day can't come soon enough. IPv4 is on life support and needs to die.

>>105902764
>even cares about any online anonymity is just a schizo extemist, probably a pedo too.
Glowie take. People don't want to be tracked and they have the right to privacy. IPv6 has privacy features and should be used. You should not track users by their IP as they will change overtime.
Glowies should not be allowed to spy on people, store information and hack devices unless they have a warrant for each person.

>Just because Clodflare can do full TLS decryption on all your traffic doesn't mean anything to you unless you are someone who wants to post hatespeech and pedofile content online.
Cloudflare has 19.5 % control of the entire internet, they can detect which site you visit, especially within the IPv4 internet.
Not only that, they can eavesdrop communications between user, websites, APIs and anything in between. They can even change the content of requests made by legitimate users for websites they don't like, this has already happened.

>>105902764
>I agree, anyone who has any "privacy concerns" about the ipv6
If the ISP keeps logs for ipv6 then they also keep logs for CGNAT. The privacy or lack thereof is the same. Assuming you have randomization of your suffix enabled.

Will LANs still use IPv4, or will they also use IPv6? Is there a specific block of IPv6 dedicated to local addresses inside a network?

>>105902786
>>105903965
I've read that Wikipedia bans an individual IPv6 address at first (technically a /128 range which is equal to a single IP), then by the 3rd to 5th ban they ban a whole /64, then it moves up to a /60, /56 and finally a /48.
It's not hard to implement when you think in ranges and especially if you use modern libraries.

>>105903139
>uniquely fingerprint the user by device
It's so easy to spoof nowadays. A solution would be introducing the web environment integrity drafted by Google a couple of years ago. It would certifies that the client accessing the page is secure and is an actual user but this would at the same time be a highly invasive attack on users' privacy and would make the web less free with a de-facto DRM.

does each IoT device have its own IP? why isn't it just a subnet IP?

>>105906716
That's just how IPv6 works. Every device gets a public IPv6. It is also a subnet address. Like if your home router was given the fd00:dead:beef::/60 IP range by your ISP, then your smart lightbulb or whatever might be publicly routable at fd00:dead:beef::3, but could also have a local IP fe80:some:bullshit:here::3.

>>105902764
>make one post pointing out couldflare and other anti-ddos services make TLS/SSL useless
>glow niggers forced to write a script to deal with it
Neat, great to know that what I write matters.

>>105906685
On every ISP I have used that offer IPv6 all devices on your LAN are given a public address. ISP I was using last year attempted to force everyone over to IPv6. But since peoples devices were no longer behind a NAT tons of people called in to complain about how slow their internet was suddenly acting. Of course, this was due to everything being exposed to public internet and getting scanned by every script kiddie on the planet.

It lasted 3 days until they forced everyone to switch back to IPv4+NAT by default.

99% of users have no kind of firewall between them and the public internet other than a NAT. ISPs do not set up firewall rules by default and most users have no idea wtf they're doing so they don't do it either. NAT (and double NAT) is the only thing standing between them and getting auto pwned.

My friend called me when this IPv6 switch happened with the local cable ISP because his HDD filled up. There were so many script kiddie bots attempting to log-in to his *nix box that they filled up the 5TB HDD via log files in about 36 hours.

>>105906685
fe80::/10

>>105906685
>Will LANs still use IPv4, or will they also use IPv6?
You can choose what to use on LAN, you have full control of the local network, you can actually use IPv6 on your LAN even if your ISP does not support it.

>Is there a specific block of IPv6 dedicated to local addresses inside a network?
In IPv6 there are two types of local addresses: unique local addresses (range fc00::/7) and link-local addresses (range fe80::/10).
Unique local addresses can communicate with the entire LAN even across local routers if configured correctly, link-local addresses can communicate only within the local switch.

>>105906716
>does each IoT device have its own IP?
Yes.

>why isn't it just a subnet IP?
You can subnet local addresses and assign a specific network interface to that subnet or even create VLANs.
You can do that even in IPv4 with class A, class B and class C addresses, I'm glad they got rid of that mess in IPv6.

>>105906796
You can't use IPs in the fd00::/7 range on the global public internet, the packets would get instantly dropped by the first router they cross.
You need to use your assigned network prefix for it to work.
fc00 and fd00 are unique local, fe80 is link-local.

>>105907280
*fc00::/7 range