Is it stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows 10 IoT LTSC already?
Is /g/ already making the move? (Don't pretend you aren't, you said the same thing during Win7 to Win10 era)

serious question what is even nicer in windows 11?

>>105920998
most of it is garbage but it has DX12 Ultimate, direct storage and actual HDR support so if you game or have an Oled win10 is way worse

>>105920998

General aesthetic improvements and apps like notepad and paint getting useful features. 11 isn’t bad desu

>>105920978 (OP)
As someone who upgraded back in October, yes, It's good.

IoT ltsc is meant to be used for headless machines not regular consumer cattle you will have problems installing certain things like .net, drivers etc.

>>105920978 (OP)
>This post is advertising or begging.

>>105921633
> HDR
Ten out of ten people tested couldn't identify screens playing HDR vs. Non-HDR material.

>>105921636
is this supposed to be sarcastic

>>105921680
I downloaded win 10 iot ltsc from the windows thread 4-5 years ago, set it up, never let it update, only update drivers, never had issues.

Windows 11 Education Edition is perfectly stable.
Just set your update cadence to be every 3 months and you're good to go.

I was going to install Win11 LTSC IoT, but then I realized it still doesn't support the 9950X3D properly (and the new Intels for that matter) so I just said fuck it and installed WIn11 Pro 24H2. I'll see again when the next version comes out, only time will tell.

>>105920978 (OP)
>Is /g/ already making the move?
not until support for iot ltsc win 10 drops
>>105921680
>literall microshit shill

>>105920998
Arm support

>>105921680
It's the same thing as Windows 10, just without the bloat. (or at least, most of it is gone) Also, several years of support.
Supposedly you can add all that shit back on there via. Powershell, but who would want that?
>t. picrel

>>105920978 (OP)
LTSC is a meme. Either debloat your Pro edition install or use Linux

>>105921680
Completely untrue. It's the exact same as normal Windows under the hood.

>>105920978 (OP)
10 LTSC was good, but 11 retail is unironically better than 11 LTSC.

>>105923625
How exactly? If you mean the updated Notepad, Paint, etc., you can install those manually on LTSC.

>>105923660
1) Installing Windows Store with wsreset -i doesn't always work. Had to install then uninstall some Xbox app which pulls in WS as a dependency.
2) Installing the new Notepad etc. from WS installs them per user instead of system wide.
3) The snipping tool doesn't trigger a Windows notification containing the screenshot, nor does it save the picture to disk, so I had to install Snipping Tool from WS.
4) You can't always install the latest version of UWP apps from rg-adguard.net for some reason. The only way to always get the latest is through WS. For example Snipping Tool.

LTSC 10 had none of these problems except #3.

>>105923709
I see your point, but I haven't really had those issues. I did upgrade from 10 LTSC though where I already had the MS Store and stuff installed, so that might've helped.

Reading these threads, it feels so fucking good to have moved to Linux.

>>105923709
>>105923738
Actually they all might have been a problem on LTSC 10 except #1. I can't remember 100%, I might have been using 10 differently.

>>105923746
I did that for a bit and came back. I'm actually fairly happy with 11 Home with WSL.

>>105923750
>came back
That's never going to happen for me. I spent a year slowly mastering linux, so there's no need to ever go back.

>>105923762
I know Linux. My problem was hardware related and I didn't feel like spending more money.

>>105921821
Link

>>105923769
Bleeding edge hardware issues are fixed by using a bleeding edge distro, like Arch Linux.

>>105923785
That's nice but Arch sucks

>>105921680
truth nuke

>>105923793
It does not when you know how to use it. Arch can be anything you want it to be, it's utterly modular. I got it set up to work like the windows I'm used to. All my games work flawlessly, all my apps are there or have some replacement.

>>105923785
In this case it's shitty vendors, not bleeding edge.

>>105923827
What hardware did you have trouble with?

>>105920978 (OP)
Been using Windows 11 for work
Windows 10 for home gayman

From a user experience I don't see much issue. The fact that everything is centralised on the task bar is annoying but you can fix that.

I can't speak to the backend side of things. Probably some NSA backdoors and what not. Bitlocker is by default on Windows 11 I think, which means your data is encrypted by a proprietary algo when I'd much prefer open source. Saying that at least its encrypted where as I can never be bothered setting it up on Windows 10. Probably data harvests you but we were worried about that with Windows 10.

Basically I don't see enough value in switching to Windows 11, so I'm pretty annoyed they made it practically mandatory and might look at switching to a Linux distro at home for a bit just to see what I'm actually loosing out on.

>>105923819
Any distro can be set up how you like it, if you know how to use it
Doesn't change the fact Arch sucks

>>105920998
nothing, quite literally, there are no new additions to the system, it's just a reskin with more jeetware

>>105920978 (OP)
Our living room PC, that is only used for browsing amazon and aliexpress, was bugging me for win11.
The CPU is too old and not supported, cause it misses some obscure instruction or something.

I first tried to install Win11 IoT LTSC anyway, which does work, according to the internet.
The installation was slow. So while the installation was going, i was pondering about my actions.

Then i realized, that it isn't very smart to install something, that doesn't support my hardware, even if it works. The only reason for choosing Win11 was "because it is newer". Which doesn't justify the possible pain unsupported hardware could cause.
I cancelled the installation and went with Win10 IoT LTSC instead.
Works great.

>includes copilot
ew

>>105924108
>LTSC
>includes copilot
Peak retard

>>105923017
what is the best start key replacement? i use startallback and its nice but would try alternatives

>>105921680
I install loT ltsc win 10 three days ago and I have played my steam library normally. works on my machine.

>>105924143
OH NO NO NO! DELET THIS!

>>105924150
My install doesn't have it.

>>105921725
sounds like a poor people problem

>>105920978 (OP)
I moved to windows 11 a long time ago because its easier to rice. windows 10 was a enormous fucking shit show in that regard. but lately I am wondering if switching back would be better now that it's so end of life.

Apart from longer security updates, unironically what's the benefit of a ltsc version which may or may not create issues down the road? Like how is it better than if I were to manually remove the bloatware from w11 pro?

>>105926563
Pro has more telemetry that the group policies flat out ignore, it even says so on them iirc. the real upside imo is you never get new "features"" that MS rolls out.

>>105926563
LTSC basically just gets security patches, so MS won't fuck it up with "feature enhancements". They'll release an entire new LTSC image instead of forcing you to upgrade. The downside is if they release something actually useful you won't get it, but thus far MS' track record doesn't point to that being an actual problem

I run Windows 11 IoT Enterprise.

>>105920978 (OP)
works as intended.

/g/ is a windows 11 board now

>>105920978 (OP)
>still W11 based
It will never be a replacement no matter how much you curryniggers try to push it.

You faggots are pathetic, I never met such a desperate group that is willing to download a modified windows system off a trust me bro because they are as mentally ill as the windows 7 ducklings.

>>105920998
file explorer has tabs and the desktop switcher works better, that's about it

>>105921680
why would you reply to the thread if you have no idea what you are talking about?

>>105928849
>download a modified windows system off a trust me bro
corporate it hand this out like candy to us along with new hardware, what are you even talking about?

>>105929211
>desktop switcher works better

Really?
Task View is a laggy POS in 11 24H2. An god help you if you set a different background on another desktop.

>>105921680
Peddling the same garbage as those sub-humans on the official reddit. I'm on LTSC IOT 2021 for years, and everything in my Steam library works without tweaks, even more modern releases like Fragpunk, Halo Infinite and The Finals work OOTB .

LTSC is the same codebase to Pro/Enterprise, just feature frozen and no ads. Its just "illegal" to get LTSC IOT, but who gives a shit?

>>105924215
NTA, but you can have both SAB's taskbar and Windhawk's Windows 11 Start Menu mods. Just disable SAB's "enhanced" start menu. Looking into SAB's hidden "black magic" features too.

>>105920998
Recent motherboards tend to no longer fully support Win 10, for example: there are no Win 10 drivers for the WiFi module of the ASRock Nova and other boards.
But I rather install a WiFi card for 15 lousy bucks than put up with the sluggish crap of a scripted UI.

>>105928849
> Modified version of Windows
> LTSC (IOT)

Massgraves provides the link to the ISO hosted on MICROSOFT'S OWN SERVERS.

Retard.

>>105920998
Task manager is a massive improvement
Rounded corners
Gradient shading
Subtle noise to UI to add texture instead of flat shit
Better UI
Background task sleeping
Better windows snapping
Loads of developer and power user tools

I haven't heard a compelling reason to stay on 10

>>105929735
On Windows 11, there is a noticable delay with interacting with anything. This can be tied to the dogshit that is WinUI 3. Seriously, check the Github.

Instability for some people.
Laggy task view, buggy taskbar (unless you get StartAllBack).
Worse Start Menu (unless you get WindHawk).
Setting one separate desktop background will make desktop switching an even more laggy experience.
Slow Windows Explorer.

Windows 11 is in a perpetual beta/alpha, it feels worse than early Windows 10, and its been out for three years now.

Oh, and the Settings app is STILL incomplete, over 10 years now!

>>105929562
>Trusting random corps
>>105929734
Who's the retard the person that is free from your faggot jail going off of previous copes that baby ducks have done or the retard that can't learn an alternative that works better than windows and will be more sustainable vs something jeetos will burn to the ground by design?
Don't hurt your head little duckling.

>>105929840
>On Windows 11, there is a noticable delay with interacting with anything. This can be tied to the dogshit that is WinUI 3.
Can you give an example with a comparison to 10?

>Instability for some people.
No instability here.
>Laggy task view, buggy taskbar (unless you get StartAllBack).
Examples?
>Worse Start Menu (unless you get WindHawk).
I honestly have no idea what people use the start menu for these days. I hit windows key, type my shit and hit enter.
>Setting one separate desktop background will make desktop switching an even more laggy experience.
I just tried this and it runs fine
>Slow Windows Explorer.
How? Where? It's butter smooth for me.

>Windows 11 is in a perpetual beta/alpha, it feels worse than early Windows 10, and its been out for three years now.
Examples?

>Oh, and the Settings app is STILL incomplete, over 10 years now!
I don't think Microsoft will ever fully shed win32 legacy settings. Same issue exists in office.

>>105923625
>but bloated version full of useless shit you couldn’t care less that harases you with forced updates is unironically better than clean, proper version
Are you legit insane?

Every windows 11 issue can be summarised as having shit hardware, tech illiteracy or failure to administrate a computer.

>>105930723
> tech illiteracy or failure to administrate a computer.
So its like linux.
In that case might as well install linux.

>>105930723
>or failure to administrate a computer.
Either lmm neuroslop or saar do not redeemful shill.

>>105929711
>Recent motherboards tend to no longer fully support Win 10
This level of obsolescence is really bizarre to me.
Windows 10 and 11 have very little differences, not much of a gap between hardware and software generations, and yet we're seeing drivers drop support for it? Fuck off.
Shit like this made more sense when Windows 9x jumped to XP. Vastly different then, and now tech is not rapidly evolving as it was before. (at least for consumers, and excluding AI advancements)

>>105921633
>DX12 Ultimate
Microsoft mandates all the DX12 games that were released 2020 onward to bundle the DX12 library files with the games so it's not even a big deal.

>>105931412
It's all part of the planned obsolescence, if they can't get ya one way they'll get you another.

>>105926866
wrong, win10 last 'security' update broke emoji picker on 21h2 ltsc and 22h2

>>105921821
>use most popular consumer OS
>block all updates
wow i cant believe windows users actually live like this, and its not popular to run AV anymore right? good luck

>>105920978 (OP)
I'll wait for a future version of Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC. For now, I'm using Windows 10 version and I'm completely satisfied.

>Is Win95 stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows 3.11 already?
>Is WinMe stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows 98 already?
>Is WinVista stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows XP already?
>Is Win8 stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows 7 already?
>Is Win1 stable enough to be considered a replacement to Windows 10 already?
Just lynch yourself already.
Nobody wants your trash OS.
12 can't come out soon enough after they flushed the karens and DEI hires.

>>105930196
>random corps
alright ted, time to go to bed

>>105929840
why are you still parroting problems from 2022? we are in 2025, retard

>>105920978 (OP)
it's pretty stable...granted i do disable a shitton of stuff from the OS, most startup apps and use simplewall to keep the microslop telemetry at a minimum.

>>105929840
i don't notice any slowness or instability, even on a slower laptop from 2012 it works just as fast. on the other hand the pro version that came in my uni issued laptop with an NVMe SSD still felt slow and sluggish, switching to 24H2 LTSC absolutely made it way faster and gave it more screen time. it's incredible how much computing power anti user slop parasites from your system. it's like going from an overweight couch potato to amateur runner it's a night and day difference in usability.

>>105930566
>>105932654

Again, check the WinUI github.

https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml/issues/9565

https://github.com/Noemata/XamlBenchmark

https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml/discussions/8595

The delays are documented and the devs have done nothing about it to date.

When Windows Explorer launches, there is a delay in loading the ribbon, if you are in dark mode it may still flashbang you too, just like Windows 10.

Set up six (6) desktops and set the background for one (and only one) of them. There will be a noticable stutter in switching, especially if you have accent colors following the wallpaper.

The start menu comes down to preferrence. On Windows 10, I can like both the list and pinned apps displayed at once.

Microsoft will NEVER shed win32 legacy settings, and that's fine. Backward compatibility is a great feature. But what's stopping them from implementing it in new UI? They have done it before with volume management.

>>105929840
The official subreddits and Microsoft's forums have the same reports.

I'm indifferent to Windows 10/11, they are just platforms to run our software. But that was my experience with Windows 11 24H2 LTSC and Pro, your milage may vary.

> Intel I7-8850H 6 Core
> 32 GB DDR4
> NVIDIA P2000

>>105920978 (OP)
I'm actually not this time OP. I've already got my parts ordered, and it doesn't include a windows key.