Thread 105922485

Why does linux have worse compatibility than macOS on ARM?
Literally >everything broken vs >everything works.
How the fuck did we even get tot his point?

Probably because Linux is a community project and the overwhelming majority of people use x86? I’m sure arm is great but when we’re talking about a niche of a niche you’re gonna struggle to find people willing to dedicate time to something very few people will use. I’m sure as arm based laptops become more popular we’ll see improvement though.

>thing on arm doesn't work
Pull request from people who care welcome.

>Why does linux have worse compatibility than macOS on ARM?
>Literally >everything broken vs >everything works.
>How the fuck did we even get tot his point?

How much ARM hardware exists that's worth running it on? The Windows ARM laptops weren't exactly a big hit. Not to say I'm not interested in owning such a thing in the future and running Linux on it. But at this point you shouldn't expect much.

>>105922485 (OP)
Because no one wants to use arm Linux devices. They have infinitely more driver issues than x86 devices due to ARM being primarily used for toy computers whose manufacturers have no desire to upstream their cancerous hodgepodge drivers and devicetrees.

>>105923077
I looked into the only ARM laptop (besides Apple) being sold in the country where I live
>0 sold
https://www.phoronix.com/news/ASUS-Zenbook-A14-Linux-Patches
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/hardware/general-hardware/1538033-linux-patches-enable-support-for-the-snapdragon-x1-powered-asus-zenbook-a14
>no audio
>no HDMI
>14 inch screen considerably more expensive than my current laptop with a 16 inch screen
>16GB/512GB like my current laptop

>>105923089
the only 'standard' arm linux computer i know of is the raspberry pi series

Because different versions of ARM are mutually incompatible and the ARM ecosystem as a whole is a chaotic mess of unstandardized bullshit. Corpos love to abuse this, which is part of the reason they use ARM so much.

Apple doesn't have to worry about this because they use their own custom ARM architecture.

>>105923178
This is the reason why x86 will never die and ARM will forever be custom tinkertranny projects that hold every user back.

>apple accomplishes in 5 years what loonix couldnt in 3 decades
lol
lmao even

>>105923178
>different versions of ARM
ARM64 is the only one that matters.
https://news.opensuse.org/2025/07/10/project-seeks-input-on-32-bit-arm/

>>105923135
it has worse linux support than rockchip-based SBCs

>>105922485 (OP)
I'm excited for it to run on RISC-V

>>105923204
>will never die
intel is dying and every modern AMD CPU has an arm coprocessor

>>105922485 (OP)
Identity politics chased away all of the good programmers.

>>105923248
That doesn't mean that x86 will die, it'd be like saying that Minix has completely supplanted Windows due to its presence in the IME.

>>105923248
>coprocessor

>>105922485 (OP)
> be mac
> 7% market
> don't release any info about how hardware works
> nobody cares because nobody is buying macs
> "just werks" - people still aren't buying macs

>>105923077
>How much ARM hardware exists that's worth running it on?
a lot of shit out there using arm and linux for best part of two decades, maybe longer. did you forget arm's primary uses as embedded microcontrollers?

>>105923248
> has integrated microcontroller
> this means x86 is dying
dangerously low iq simpleton monkey has no idea how any of this works. stick to bananas and eating fleas.

>>105923329
good morning rajesh

the only reason arm exists is for compute per wattage. if you have an macbook m1 you know that CS is better on it that pretty much any x64 device out there, even better than QC surface devices.

the drive for arm based solutions is purely around laptops and battery life. Apple was able to drive compute/wattage upwards with the m1/m2 to the point where intel basically had 0 response to it for the next 10 years. Surface saw this and freaked out and immediately started QC development with Carina. I think they basically had a desktop QC version that was meant for devs? Apple built the m1 around macos to allow easier control of sleep states and PEP constraints. Microsoft is trying to get there

Anyways point being no one really cares about battery life on linux from an OEM standpoint so no one is really driving that development. I dont really see that changing until x64 laptops are no longer a majority of the market and LF just has to adapt.

Source I worked on Surface for 6 years

>>105923339
> street shitting pedophile mental breakdown time
why aren't you posting the same 4-5 pictures any more, ramapoo inachildshand?

>>105923345
meds

>>105923341
>source: i made it up.

>>105923356
> ijeet seething
nobody cares

>>105923360
you have been spamming in every apple thread for 10 years rajesh

>>105923360
> ijeet seething

meanwhile in the real world

/g/ needs to realize the people shilling linux and disparaging apple are the jeets, not the other way around. It's not 2015 anymore

>>105923494
Disturbing how far Greece has fallen. What causes this?

>>105923527
greece uses linux because it created western civilization, jeetland uses linux because they are too stupid to pirate. they are not the same

>>105923120
>https://www.phoronix.com/news/ASUS-Zenbook-A14-Linux-Patches
kek that looks like a random pajeetphone custom rom from XDA
>Working:
>Touchpad
>Front camera (sometimes)
>USB port
>Not working:
>Cellular modem
>Screen
>Speakers
>Bugs:
>You tell me ;)

linuxsaarrrsss

>>105922485 (OP)
oh look a tranny shill thrad, embarrassing

>>105923494
Who knew the Congo (DRC) and South Sudan were more based than Japan!

Real zero <= statistical zero

>>105922485 (OP)
problem with linux that its not nigger friendly
its for people who know how computers work in other words you can't be low iq and use it sorry, it's just not how it was designed

>>105923908
Indians manage. I think the days of it being a secret club ended when Ubuntu arrived in the mid 00s.

What is with the Indian on Indian violence ITT?

>>105923923
>ubuntu
is that your argument?

>>105922485 (OP)
>Why does linux have worse compatibility than macOS on ARM?
Because ARM has been the ISA of choice for Apple's entire product range for the last 4 years, and they've had experience with it in their mobile products for well over a decade. If their shit didn't work well on ARM then they wouldn't have replaced their entire x86 lineup with ARM, would they?

Linux, on the other hand, doesn't need to run well on ARM because most linux users don't use ARM-based hardware, so there's not a lot of incentive to improve its support. It's that simple.

>>105922485 (OP)
ARM=blobs

>>105924493
lets just forget about android for a minute