Getting sick of Microsoft and their bullshit with Outlook. Besides maybe Protonmail, does anyone here know of any good email client alternatives to Outlook? Heard Em Client is decent too but I'm really not sure where to move to.

Any suggestions?

that's a non-issue
https://www.thunderbird.net/

>>105930099
i had thunderbird for a while but the fact that you can't have multiple accounts on the same app at once like in outlook really frustrates me

>>105930105
I have dozens of accounts in Thunderbird, I don't know what do you mean

desu eM Client is in fact better, because you can set to download via IMAP mails only from last days, which is perfect for spambox

https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/

>>105930279
it's not like outlook though, idk how to explain it since it's been a while since i used it, but you couldn't just add an account like outlook does, you had to get your IMAP/POP3 manually and it was very tedious, at least that's how i remembered it but i could be wrong

>>105930304
qrd on eM Client?
is it safe and easy to use?
like what's the general jist of it?

>>105930338
last time when I've tried it it doesn't worked with Gmail and any mail with OAuth login

>>105930373
I have no idea if it's safe, but I'm using pirated version for a long time and it works just fine

>>105930389
alright
i'm sold
will give that a try

>>105930389
>pirated
Is it even foss then?

>>105930091 (OP)
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/gnus.html
let me guess, you "need" more?

>>105930505
it's paid, like every good software, but easy to pirate

>>105930389
any difference between the free version and the paid one?

>>105930514
Ok but is it foss?

>>105930523
https://www.emclient.com/pricing

accounts limit is the biggest limitation, if you need to use more accounts at once then just pirate it

>>105930537
absolutely proprietary afaik

>>105930360
thunderbird will attempt to get the imap/pop3 server details on the account setup wizard

The Bat is also an option

>>105930548
Then why would anyone care about it?

>>105930569
because it just works and has features thunderbird doesn't have

>>105930577
Why not just look for other FOSS that has the features you want when accessing your ancient communication protocol?

>>105930611
I always do this, but no mail client has such a simple thing like downloading and storing mails only from last 24 hours

>>105930650
And none have the option to only show emails that from the last 24h and then a download all button?

>>105930669
well, I haven't found an alternative for eM Client with such simple feature - I don't need to sync and download headers of all of my thousands of mails

never thought i'd say it but i miss the old mail app from win10

bump

>>105930563
what is this

>>105931177
same desu, I moved to Outlook (((classic))) and I can't believe how unfathomably shit it is

>>105932323
the new outlook app pisses me off to no end, putting ads in your inbox is borderline criminal

>>105931777
https://www.ritlabs.com/pl/products/thebat/

>>105930099
this
Don't use em-client with Outlook accounts. It will steal Microsoft creds. It apparently doesn't do this to Apple accounts for whatever reason.

>>105932388
don't forget the fact that the new Outlook sends your credentials to the (((cloud))) for added (((security))) and (((convenience)))

>>105932425
Do you have a wireshark/source to show it sending credentials?

>>105930091 (OP)
for me it's neomutt

>>105932455
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Microsoft-lays-hands-on-login-data-Beware-of-the-new-Outlook-9608798.html
https://mailbox.org/en/post/warning-new-outlook-sends-passwords-mails-and-other-data-to-microsoft
https://www.xda-developers.com/privacy-implications-new-microsoft-outlook/

>>105932423
>It will steal Microsoft creds
is that a bad thing?

>>105932501
Depends on what you use it for
>>105932488
Thanks.
I wasn't aware of this, I'll do some checks on the clients that use the new versions.
I would hope most of this at least gets logged by local firewalls, I just checked mine with a fresh install of new Outlook and I didn't see any credential passing.

>>105930105
I hate retards like you. Stupid fucking idiots who pretend to know what they're talking about, yet don't have a fucking clue. I bet you boast about being a tech genius, yet need IT to put icons on your desktop.

>>105930338
>https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
oh neat, this looks kinda like clawsmail.
does it have any advantages over claws?

>>105932871
well excuse me for trying something that isn't microjeet slop for once, really difficult to try alternatives after decades of using windows crap

>>105932910
>Claws Mail is a powerful and full-featured mail client formerly called Sylpheed-Claws
shoulda read before I asked :P
anyway for everyone else, I use this and it gets the job done, sometimes it gets temperamental when fetching mail.
I use email like a retard so its probably just user error and not the programs fault though.

>>105930091 (OP)
buy an AD, eM "literal thunderbird clone" client.
use thunderbird + stalwart to self host.
and why are you conflating email client with email provider?
is this a paid shill bot thread?

>>105932924
kill yourself, really.