Thread 105959014

>no telemetry and bloat unlike modern Windows
>user friendly unlike Linux
>light on system resources
>runs just about all software made between 1990 and 2020

Come home, anon

>no telemetry
antisemitism

>no telemetry and bloat
zoom zoom.

>no bloat
>3d version of pinball preinstalled

>>105959014 (OP)
>>no telemetry and bloat unlike modern Windows
>>user friendly unlike Linux
>>light on system resources
Bullshit. Only poorfags liked windows xp

>>105959014 (OP)
>no telemetry
XP-AntiSpy would like to have a word with you.

Every OS on earth have telemetry, why are people such retarded cunts?
Its only when you use apple, google or microsoft account when they get personal data from you.

>>105959014 (OP)
Never left, but it's not practical for tech normies to just cold turkey switch back to XP; You've got to know what you're doing and the right tools for the job (this takes years of uninterrupted practice and research), otherwise the benefits will not outweight the inevitable utility loss that comes with a vanilla installation on default settings.

>>105959106
>Every OS on earth have telemetry
Zoomer brainrot logic detected.

>>105959147
Show me a modern one that doesn't

there are people scanning the whole web at all times in fact its not a schizo theory.

>>105959014 (OP)
We never knew how good we had it

>>105959173
You didn't say "modern", but now you do. In any event: https://www.haiku-os.org/

>>105959210
It has optional telemetry, sure its turned off but its capable. I don't think any os have no telemetry at all. They all need it to make the os better, hardware configurations accross thousand of different brands isn't easy to address.

>>105959106
I love telemetry. I send back random data or captures of previous data back to the endpoints on a continuous basis.
I’m hoping they eventually ban my IP but they never do, it probably goes to india.
In the 90s, I loved some products that sent back python data structures to the mothership. They were executable on their end.

>>105959277
You can actually see what telemetry data is sent if you read the eula before using any os

>>105959014 (OP)
>no bloat
correct, he was essential and his absence is why modern windows sucks

>>105959014 (OP)
based

>>105959014 (OP)
Its amazing the amount of bot replies that got triggered by common keywords, barely making sense due to the topic
XP simplicity compared to modern OSs makes it look attractive, too bad currently its compatible with nothing and even when it was "The current OS", the fucker used to break by itself after enough use

>>105959014 (OP)
There are lists to ban or pihole dns entries to prevent telemetry. And prevent upgrades.
Most upgrades are for making random changes to the telemetry and definitely “performance” patches are.

>>105959331
IMHO its still somewhat usable with one core api. If you don't want that, supermium and thorium work fine for basic web browsing.

>>105959311
Compared to 2000, it was bloat, and quite frankly it wasn't even usable on my pc before sp1, but it's latest and finest incarnation (Posready 2009) is everything XP should have been from the getgo, and yet again, what I said about using a vanilla installation still holds true here.

>>105959331
Nonsense. I my workstation was XP and we did some pretty hardcore development (eg livekd) on it and it ultimately had a 3 year uptime.
It you take care of it, XP has great uptime, and even today lots of ancient shit runs on both XP and things after it.
Windows reached perfection at XP, further changes just enshitified it because it’s not like a phone and you can’t add a fourth and fifth camera to it.

>>105959427
The only thing Win7 (last Microsoft OS proper) did better (though far from perfect) than XP was recover from an improper shutdown. You also get an extra layer of compatibility for newer software at expense of everything else.

XP goated and undefeated. Telemetry normies seethe and dilate.

The way XP combined customizability and features for power users with ease of use for beginners and normies is something unmatched by any other operating system to date

>>105959059
Fuck You
Pinball was great.

No thanks. I'm loyal to my waifu.

>>105959039
>>105959147
>muh zoom zoom
Millennials are the generation that mortgaged IRC and forums for Netflix and AI slop

>>105959331
It works fine on my machine.

>>105961486
do you really use it?

>>105960929
ok normie

>>105961486
Hey anon, I remember that XP's built-in image viewer has support to animated .gifs, am I wrong?

>>105963574
Get rid of that garbage and use ACDSee Classic instead (track down the last version before the last version, the one without the adware).

>>105963574
It does. I use infranview though, because it has a better zoom function and more format support. I just used the preview program because it fit better in the screenshot.
>>105963365
Yeah, every day. It my daily driver.

>>105959039
>thinks there would have been telemetry in an OS when dial-up was still the norm
Larping zoomer outed xer/xiself.

>>105964159
>I wasn't alive in 2002 but I MUST LARP!
Stupid faggot. Meanwhile, in reality. Every Directv set-top box in America had been phoning home over a dial-up connection since 1995 giving content providers real time feedback about people's watching habits. Same goes for most cable providers.

I don't understand why you underage faggots feel the need to lie all of the time. No one believes you. Those of us that were alive back then know better and those that weren't probably aren't paying attention to anything you have to say in the first place. A quick search of websites around back then like /. would have shown you they were reporting about telemetry coming bundled in several software products almost weekly and people were crying about it in the comments all of the time.

>NO SAAR YOU NEED TO USE WINDOWS XP!! YOU NEED TO USE UNSECURE SHIT SAAR!!! SAAR WINDOWS XP IS USER FRIENDLY AND BETTER THAN LINUCKS!!! (even though you can't install windows xp on newer hardware)

Conclusion: OP IS A POOR NIGGER THAT USES WINDOWS XP KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>105964268
>Every Directv set-top box in America
Not my problem, I'm not a mutt thankfully. I love how mutts assume everyone they're talking to over the internet must be a mutt too.

XP still doesn't have telemetry by default unless you installed something with it or went to the effort to enable it in a program like Windows Media Player, and even then that's still limited to the specified program. You and other trannies go into these semantics, examples and use all these mental gymnastics to justify the telemetry Microsoft now pushes in their own operating systems. It's pathetic really.

Meanwhile I can go on XP, open Wireshark or use netsh, and see that there are no calls to Microsoft whatsoever unlike 10 and 11. Weird isn't it? Why do you tranny freaks of nature have to lie so much? Rope yourself programmer socks.

>>105959014 (OP)

My fellow nibba, as much as I love XP, the moment you connect to the internet you become part of a botnet... although I do miss A LOT running a machine on 140mbs of ram, and having a windows installation under 4gbs, shit was so cash back then when ads were considered adware, telemetry was bloatware and both were viruses. I miss those days...

>>105964310
>NO SAAR YOU NEED TO USE WINDOWS 11!! YOU NEED MICROSOFT TO SPY ON YOU IT'S OK WHEN THEY DO IT!!! SAAR PRE-INSTALLED SPYWARE IS GOOD!!! (even though you can't install windows 11 on hardware that's only a few years old)

>>105959014 (OP)
>no telemetry and bloat unlike modern Windows
While Windows XP does not have the extensive telemetry features found in modern Windows versions (like Windows 10 and 11), it does have some level of data collection, particularly through its activation and update processes. Additionally, many users consider Windows XP to have bloatware in the form of pre-installed applications and services that can consume system resources.
>user friendly unlike Linux
User-friendliness is subjective and can vary based on the user's experience and familiarity with the operating system. Many modern Linux distributions (like Ubuntu or Mint) have made significant strides in usability, often providing a more intuitive experience for new users compared to Windows XP, which is outdated and lacks support for modern hardware and software standards.
>light on system resources
While Windows XP was designed to run on older hardware, it is not necessarily "light" in terms of resource usage when compared to some modern lightweight Linux distributions. Many Linux distros are specifically designed to be resource-efficient and can run on minimal hardware, often using fewer resources than Windows XP itself.
>runs just about all software made between 1990 and 2020
Windows XP cannot run many modern applications and software that require newer versions of Windows due to compatibility issues, lack of support for modern APIs, and security vulnerabilities. Software developed after the mainstream support for Windows XP ended in 2014 often does not support this operating system, limiting its ability to run applications from the later part of that time frame.

Just install Slitaz or Tiny Core with Librewolf (uBlock Origin included as default) and Violentmonkey. Or Linux Mint.

>>105964331
You don't, unless you're connecting directly the internet without a firewall or NAT, or you are downloading something you shouldn't. I've been using an XP VM for years and it hasn't been hacked.

>>105964526
>While Windows XP does not have the extensive telemetry features found in modern Windows versions (like Windows 10 and 11), it does have some level of data collection, particularly through its activation and update processes. Additionally, many users consider Windows XP to have bloatware in the form of pre-installed applications and services that can consume system resources.

Posready 2009 fixes all of that.

>>105964563

see, thats the problem 98.5% of normies dont how can I into firewall? lel

>>105959014 (OP)
>no telemetry
First version to have Windows Error Reporting (which sends LIVE MEMORY DUMPS to Microsoft), Windows Product Activation (registering your computer hardware with Microsoft's servers), etc.
>user friendly unlike Linux
Fair enough, but MS-DOS Shell is also a superior UI to Linux; it's not a high bar to clear, in the "I didn't shit myself in public today"-tier.
>no bloat
>light on system resources
Most of the UI and Control Panel is written in DHTML. Has twice the system requirements of Windows 2000, while doing nothing Win2k didn't.
>runs just about all software made between 1990 and 2020
No, it's DOS compatibility is terrible, like all NTs.

>>105964927
>Windows Error Reporting, Windows Product Activation
You can't really say these are anything close to 11 sending web requests each time you use the UI or even 10 which will phone home every few minutes.

>>105964927
> Most of the UI and Control Panel is written in DHTML.
Doubt

I watched a video where Windows XP was shown today and it reminded me that XP was the last tolerable Windows released... and that even XP was trash compared to Windows 2000, because you needed to disable shit to make it work like WIndows 2000 for it not to suck. Even then you could never actually get it all the way there.

>>105964937
Yes I can, because you're lying about 11.

>>105964938
You can doubt it all you like, it doesn't change reality.

>>105965001
I'm not you fucking poojeet shill, you can see the traffic it generates using wireshark, you can try it yourself, but I know you won't because you're an NPC/shill/poojeet fuck and you should kys.

>>105965019
>even streetshitters can afford machines that run 11 reeeeeee
I love it when you out yourselves.

>>105965019
It's funny how you "people" never actually produce these Wireshark dumps you shout about.
Really funny.

>>105965042
Their excuse is always that "t-they're encrypted."
So the question becomes "so how do you know what's in them, then?"
Then they chuck a niggerlicious spastic tantrum - and you win.

>>105965034
This. Only /g/ is stupid enough to think "im poorer than ranjeesh (who took my janitorial job)" is a flex.

>>105965034
>>105965042
>>105965051
>>105965092
Ok, I've setup an 11 VM and-- oh? What's that? Oh now that can't possibly be telemetry at all can it now?

>t-that's nothing goy-- I mean guy...
>i-it's just for en-enhancing user experience!!
>it's perfectly acceptable chud, you agreed in the EULA
>n-no y-you're the real poojeet here, m-my skin isn't the colour of poo at all

>>105965385
So what is it, anon?
Go on, it's only four bytes - you should be able to tell us what it is.

>>105965919
It's a lot bigger than 4 bytes in total from that capture, and it's Microjeet(TM) spying on you.

>>105965969
>cant answer the simple question
>continues to chimp out as per >>105965051

>>105966059
>it's encrypted goy you don't even know what's being sent
>that means you can't prove spying at all
>so that means that you have no evidence
>even though it shows Microjeet and AWS connecting to your OS multiple times a minute
>but that's ok goy it's for user experience
>even though we require you to use your microjeet account, it is 100% anonymous goy

Who are you trying to fool here? What other reason would the OS be constantly sending data to Microsoft and AWS for? What would add up to 600+ MBs of data in that short amount of time? Even if it were 100% anonymous, what is Microsoft and AWS doing using my internet data like that? And What else would it be if it's not spying, disingenuous shill?

>>105964870
your computer is firewalled by default with your ISPs router, you fear-mongering commiepedotroon.

>>105964870
holy retard

I've deleted the trash folder (/bin) and now my Linux doesn't fucking work what the fuck did I do wrong?????

>>105966071
>continues to chimp out as per >>105965051
It's hilarious. The irony is that this subhuman doesn't know the easy way to check what it is - all his peanut brain understands is "bytes out = ebil."

>>105966107
>evades every question
>pretends this was normal before Windows 10
Post skin colour and denounce the talmud.

>>105966117
>STILL KEEPS CHIMPING OUT
I, on the other hand, don't need a picture to know what your skin colour is.

>>105966117
>u-ur evading the question
The most pathetic "n-no u" on /g/ today.

>>105966133 (Checked)
You expected less from an XP baby duck, stinking poorfag, and above all, nigger?

>>105966141
I thought it was a streetshitter. Only they go this beserk because of all their rape and kiddie porn.
Further, a nig can go steal a Win11-capable computer.

>>105966124
>I-I'm not a shill
>y-you're just chimping out
You didn't post skin colour or denounce the talmud, you're either a kike or a shitskin or both.

The only thing you "win" is shekels from Microjeet, shill.

>>105966133
Didn't evade the question, I know it's the OS sending data to Microsoft. What else would it be if it's not that? Go on, tell me mr. shekelstein.

>>105966191
Look at that fat gunt. No wonder you're a permaNEET.

>>105966249
I'm not fat, but hey if I were a fat fuck I'd at least still be white. I'd kill myself if I were a shitskin like you.

>>105966141
>baby duck
term used by obsessed commiepedotroons to justify making things worse. Neck yourself.

>>105966262
>I'm not fat
Yes you are.
>white
Assuming it's not the last guy you mugged for his shoes (and it's a VERY rickety assumption), look what it's gotten you. You're spastically enraged by text on a screen that repeatedly goads you into embarrassing yourself. Your behaviour is complete niggerly neuron activation.

>>105966303
And you're a kike with programmer socks shilling for Microsoft, can't say that's any better.

>>105966317
>being richer, smarter, whiter and having more self control than me
>is no better than two hours of my spastic chimprage
k

>>105966336
>richer, smarter, whiter

>two hours
You're still here as well.

>>105966317
>"u-ur shilling for M$"
>said the baby duck in his latest hourly thread about xp or 7 being absolute perfection

>>105966409
It's called being a baby duck. Whatever you screwed up the taskbar or deleted system32 on when you were five years old is "perfect".
In 10 years, there will be /g/ underages who think 11 was absolute perfection, for exactly the same reasons.

>>105966452
>It's called being a baby duck. Whatever you screwed up the taskbar or deleted system32 on when you were five years old is "perfect".
In 10 years, there will be /g/ underages who think 11 was absolute perfection, for exactly the same reasons.

>>105959173
>>105959106
This person has never had a computer and browses entirely from a phone.

>>105966484
If you're still trying to convince anyone you're White anon, note that mindlessly echoing back what they say, like some dumb animal that can only mimic, isn't a very good strategy.

>>105966528
I am not even the original legacy chad you were arguing with. I just basedquoted you because you are obsessed commiepedotroon who wants to force us to use objectively worse operating system, a.k.a. modern windows or troonix.

>>105964331
Not at all true if you install all the POSReady updates and the rare few patches Microsoft issued for worms past 2020 (yes, they did patch XP)

>>105964331
0 days since a retard proved he doesn't know what firewall is

>>105959014 (OP)
People joked about Windows Updates shipping spyware even back then, even zoomers should know this.

>>105964526
Thanks ChatGPT

>>105964320
>still going
God damn why are you people so retarded. I lived through the time when XP was new until it was EoL. I'm more qualified than you to have an opinion about them harvesting data from every end user's machine at that time.

Have you considered the fact that wireshark lies to you all the fucking time? Or how about the fact that they disabled their phone home servers years ago because they're moved on to shilling Windows Vista-11 and everyone with half a brain still running XP on something knows to airgap it?

See your rely is littered with personal insults and attacks on the author of the post you're replying to. This is for good reason: You can't win in an argument with me because you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

>>105959014 (OP)
>describes Windows 2000
>pic unrelated

>>105969177
So was I retard, I used XP until 2010.

>Have you considered the fact that wireshark lies to you all the fucking time?
So why does it show the obscene amount of telemetry for 10 and 11? Why haven't I ever seen it with XP (when it still *WAS* getting updated) or 7(which you can still get updates until 2026 for)?
>Or how about the fact that they disabled their phone home servers years ago because they're moved on to shilling Windows Vista-11
I didn't start seeing any phoning home until 10, you may have a point *WHEN* an update occurs, because that does connect you to Microsoft's servers, but it just isn't the same as a constant stream of information being sent from your PC to Microsoft's servers. Surely you know there's a difference.
>and everyone with half a brain still running XP on something knows to airgap it?
Yeah, because you'll get hacked the moment you connect it to the internet ofc. Oh no, look at all the scary h4x0rs getting into my XP VM which I've used for years.

>See your rely is littered with personal insults and attacks on the author of the post you're replying to.
Your post was littered with insults to begin with, so the same "point" you just made can be applied to you.

>>105969327
Calling you a stupid faggot isn't an insult. It's hard truth. Since you're acting like a stupid faggot.
>It's worse now therefor it wasn't happening in the past
Yeah no shit. Almost like you can't slurp up as much data over dial-up and low baud rate connections. Guess all that discussion on forums, mailing lists, USENET and places like /. wasn't happening. Along with all the proof of it happening and the legions of people advocating for moving away from M$ shit and Apple shit for this exact reason. Its not like this stuff isn't easy to find in archives or anything. Oh wait, it is. People been posting about it since the 1980s and fucking MSDOS days.

>>105969414
Ok, were those people posting about telemetry in MS-DOS? I believe you when you say people were talking about moving away from Microsoft and Apple, but I doubt they were talking about telemetry in MS-DOS.

Anyway, back then there were ways for them to use telemetry, but it was an opt-in thing which wasn't enabled by default, like what I mentioned with WMP or IE asking if you would like to "improve user experience." But the difference back then is it asked you, and you could decline. And Windows Update, you could disable altogether and just download the updates manually from Microsoft's website.

>>105969518
Oh, and updates didn't automatically reset your privacy settings.

>>105964526
>Software developed after the mainstream support for Windows XP ended in 2014 often does not support this operating system
ChatGPT is wrong here. First of all, mainstream support for Windows XP (i.e., feature updates) actually ended in 2008 and extended support (i.e., security updates) ended in 2014. With very few exceptions, software developed for Windows Vista supported XP SP3 as well since SP3 ported over so much code from Vista. Extended support for Windows Vista ended in 2017 and most software stopped supporting both it and XP SP3 a few years later, in 2018 or 2019. Even if saying "1990 to 2020" is being a bit too generous it is still genuinely impressive what a wide range of software can run on XP.

>>105959014 (OP)
I installed the windows XP docker image the other day for a laff, its neat I might have to try and install some old games on it like the settlers or caesar III

Just discovered my B850 board still has CSM. I'm about to try installing XP on it with hacked up patches and stuff. Wish me luck.

>>105964320
Not only does it not have telemetry, you can also very easily tweak it so that not a single port is left open without losing any functionality. Then you disable XP's crap firewall and get a real one like Sygate.

>>105959014 (OP)
I know 4chan drones are just joking but I still use windows 7, most modern software is soft-locked and that's very annoying for example, python 3.9 works fine if you download an installer from github but it's locked when you do from the official website, same for the pip dependencies, I use chatgpt to check the latest compatible ones and most are compiled with rust that is soft-locked to windows 10 executable formats making it crash in win7.
there is a tool made by someone in github that allows some software to run when you enable win10 spoofing.
I know most of the "errors" are programmers forcing their stuff to not work, more than a real compatibility issue, I think I would understand if it were not forced, nodejs is another example of software working fine that is locked by their devs

>>105959173
Linux Mint 22.1
>B..BBUT IT MAKES A FILE AT INSTALL
It doesn’t get sent fuck off

oh my. lets see how many devices SDIO can find drivers for.

>>105969177
>Have you considered the fact that wireshark lies to you all the fucking time?
you can't say something like that without giving examples

>>105959014 (OP)
Nobody's running this shit to add to your botnet, you dumb slav fuck. God, I hope you get conscripted soon.

>>105959059
>SOVL is bloat
you must be fun at parties

>>105973591
>watch out for the scary russian hackers
>didn't you watch teh heckin youtube video

>>105959427
Just stop, nobody's falling for it. Fuck off back to preying on grandmas on facebook.

>>105966406
>still in use
It isn't, you're a fucked up trollfarm moron trying to get zombie PCs. You weren't even born when XP received its final update.

>>105973591
>>105974253
>>105974269
Imagine being this pathetic.

>>105973591
>>105974253
>>105974269
>If I lie on the internet hard enough, people will surely updoot to the latest jeetware.

>>105969542
Updates don't reset your privacy settings. It's just that you, and the memescrips you rely upon, can't into Group Policy, and never have.
Low IQs like you just can't get through your thick skulls that GP isn't just throwing values all over HKLM\Policies, it's also a mechanism to prevent them being overwritten.
But no, "m$ is teh ebil cuz my jeetcoded memescript failed."

>>105975139
Yeah, it totally has nothing to do with them wanting to spy on you. Btw, I use group policy editor and I've had it reset itself too after an update. Of course you know this already though, and you're just a disingenuous shill (who's probably brown) claiming it's those who oppose a mega corporation that is hiring jeets are the real jeets... somehow.

Imagine being this defensive about a mega corporation
>oh no better defend those big corporations however will they defend themselves without me?

>>105960929
>"customizability"
>to use anything other than the default themes you have to patch system files or use fuckass software like windowblinds

>>105975644
Are you retarded? Even Win95 Plus themes work on XP, no hassle.

>>105975658
thats cause they used the windows classic theme as basis, a default theme

>>105959331
>too bad currently its compatible with nothing
Windows XP Integral Edition.

XP doesn't even have a search function on the start menu lmao. Have fun clicking to open programs you gay.

>>105977144
I can double click an icon anywhere on the desktop much faster than you can open it by another means. Go ahead, make my day.

>>105977136
>Just download Windows XP sickdark Sephiroth420 edition it comes prebotnetted I means patched braw
Okay, yeah, thanks, Alenka.
>>105974318
Look at this parasite trying to get people to botnet their shit lol. Lmao, even.

>>105959059
POSReady 2009 is literally "bloat" free Windows XP with a more robust installer (and before any of you smartasses make that comment - POS is an abbreviation for Point of Service, as in ATMs, terminals, etc.). It can be considered as the predecessor of Windows 10 LTSC.

>>105977388
What's this botnet you speak of?

>>105977479
Yeah, can you even run an antivirus on XP anymore, you retarded fuckup? Wireshark entries are the least of your problems with XP in current year.

You gave it a fair shot, you came to /g/ armed with dreams of your own personal botnet, a VM and wireshark and you failed spectacularly. Now fuck off.

>>105977442
POS : Piece Of Shit

>>105977530
Why are you so assfisted by other people using older Windows versions, anon? Did Satya Nutella promised you more good goy points for every person you convert to wangblows 11 / shitnux?

https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/
For most things you are better off running a linux docker container in the background and x11 forwarding things like a browser.

>>105977530
>thinks antiviruses are reliable for security in 2025
Kek my fucking sides.

>>105977685
Wrong link https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/search/label/Windows%20XP

>>105977442
i tried this with some cd key during install and it still shut down a month later due to no activation or something

>>105965969
anon, ignore the trolls and tell me how do you get your wireshark to display data like that?

I dunno what thread to ask this so I'll just ask here. I installed W11 on a spare laptop just to fuck around with it. What do I need to do to make it less shit? I've used this https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

Do I need to do anything else?

>>105979126
>>105940279

>>105979199
thank you

>>105959014 (OP)
I'm good, thanks.

>>105975644
Patching system files is as easy as installing a patcher program. Even DeviantArt users figured out how to do it. And costumizability is more than just being able to chanhge the system theme, it is also about rearranging the toolbars, changing the settings and defaults, etc. On Windows 11 you can't even drag the taskbar to the top of the screen and there is less stuff that can be changed in the settings.

I should also point out that even without patching system files there are much more visual styles to choose from in Windows XP than in Windows 11.

>>105979023
Statistics > Endpoints

>>105959014 (OP)
It was a piece of shit pre SP3. Windows 2000 was a much better release from day one.

>>105975105
Running XP at this point is basically running jeetware, yes.

>>105959014 (OP)
Mf when did you last use Linux? Try Mint it's like using windows xp more than any newer windows. And more user friendly than anything after 7 because you don't get useless aggressive shit

>>105979601
My brother in Christ, XP was actually developed by competent white people, unlike windows 10 or newer.