is Ai a hoax or do you need the paid subscription? - /g/ (#105959136) [Archived: 253 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:29:20 PM No.105959136
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I just tried to setup a few html sites and a registration / login system after setting up a home server for the first time and chatgpt outputs a completely different solution every time, most of them not working at all.
Do I still need to learn all this web stuff? I thought its the easiest for the ai to do. Is all it can do generate naked women?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:31:36 PM No.105959152
isnt she blind
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:36:03 PM No.105959178
>>105959136 (OP)
Ask ChatGPT to fix the bugs
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:36:25 PM No.105959179
>>105959136 (OP)
if you gave the AI as much detail as you gave us I am not surprised it didn't work.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:39:51 PM No.105959212
>>105959136 (OP)
> different solution every time
The llms intentionally randomize or “fuzz” the output to:
(1) help launder the stolen copyrighted material
(2) make it appear more “human”
Ultimately, they are 100% deterministic unless they’re being “trained” from run to run.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:40:46 PM No.105959223
>>105959179
I asked it to create a html site with certain styles ( not specifying here but pretty simple ), that worked, but way better on claude, then to create a backend, preferrably in php, but in other tries in whatever the ai thinks is best, which is always different. The backend should log each register and login and safe data for later checkup and use, so if the server goes offline and back online its still all saved.
This basically in a few different phrasing. One time it got it working with chatgpt but trying to make the ai change stuff ruins it.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:45:21 PM No.105959265
>>105959223
and now you know why AI is eliminating entry level jobs. you have to know what to ask for. going in completely blind doesn't go well beyond very basic stuff. i haven't use claude, but gemini is most competent with python. i find just telling it to "save the info" a bad approach. you need to specify the technologies. you want it to save that information in a database. sqlite or postgres or something like that.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:49:32 PM No.105959310
>>105959223
>but in other tries in whatever
How brown are you btw?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:54:34 PM No.105959375
>>105959265
I did specify in some prompts what the info is. But I guess I do have to learn it after all.
The worst thing is that you cant take your files that already work, upload it to the ai and ask to go from there. It just writes a new file completely different.

>>105959310
saaaaaaar
no Im really white
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:56:16 PM No.105959399
>>105959375
Gemini can? I usually start with an outline of how I'd like things organized and add functions to add features farther in the conversation.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:16:02 PM No.105960527
>>105959399
ok so I tried gemini and it was indeed more helpful. It rewrote single files without breaking the whole system and often finds the solutions to problems.
Yet here I am, still trying to register my first user 2 hours after starting.
After something works I just run into the next problem. I guess you really have to learn this still. Bc I dont know what the heck the AI is talking about most of the time and am just following instructions.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:27:26 PM No.105960602
>>105959136 (OP)
sexo
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:45:26 PM No.105960742
dont mind, it actually worked.
Gemini did way better. Lets see how far I can push this.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:16:08 AM No.105960987
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:19:49 AM No.105961026
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:24:39 AM No.105961069
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:32:02 AM No.105961139
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>>105959136 (OP)
are new programmers seriously that dense that they need ai to help with a simple CRUD web form?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 1:02:36 AM No.105961456
>>105961069
og is still better.
change something about her.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 1:04:13 AM No.105961477
>>105961139
ive never done anything web related and just wanted to try ai, since anybody says its making programmers obsolete.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:07:20 AM No.105961937
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>>105961477
Well now you can rest assured knowing both you and the ai are retarded. Saying ai will make programmers obsolete and having a dumb ass like yourself try to use it and not even know what to say or ask just proves how stupid that was. If you can’t even validate the code (and I say that loosely because it’s just html) and verify which parts are right and wrong then it’s not time yet for you to use that tool. Fucking learn to program you lazy dumbass
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:15:01 AM No.105962000
>>105961477
an experienced coder who has taken the time to learn how to use AI can benefit from it, but the idea that you can just ask for a program is wrong. even if it produces a web app, are you really going to be safe putting that online for public use? you don't know how to evaluate if it's secure or not.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:49:30 AM No.105962290
>>105959136 (OP)
>>105961477
use gemini cli
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:07:59 AM No.105962467
>>105961937
it was an experiment, exactly bc I didnt know web stuff I wanted to see how far I get.

>>105962000
thats my impression as well. after 3 hours I got it working but I barely understand anything i did. So in the end i still have to learn it.
If a problem would occur and I had no access to the AI I would be lost, even after setting it up successfully.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:54:43 AM No.105963725
>>105961069
>>105961026
now i got why ai gets so much hate at least art ai, its fuckin soulless.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:18:52 AM No.105963858
>>105959136 (OP)
It's fine just ask Gemini to explain what it did and takes notes. Once you do that enough, you'll be able to tell if the AI is going in the right direction
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:20:35 AM No.105963869
>>105963858
lmao
>jut learn to program so then you can correct what the ai hallucinates
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:22:38 AM No.105963889
>>105963869
You don't need to program, you just need to have a basic understanding of why the AI did X or Y. That's something tech autists aren't even able to do
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:24:08 AM No.105963900
>>105963889
no you need to properly program
for when the ai forgets shit bc it subdivides the context or halucinates wtfever

weve been over this time and again, cargo cultist
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:27:27 AM No.105963930
>>105963900
Skill issue like always. Keep snailing around with your shitty code
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:31:30 AM No.105963960
>>105963930
>just after he said that ai shits itself
i mean
youre obviously sub 80 iq
what is it that youre trying to achieve?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:34:31 AM No.105963988
>>105963960
You're barely able to write a coherent sentence in English, let alone in other languages lmao
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:36:56 AM No.105964011
>>105963988
>baw i dont undastaaan
think faster then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:36:59 AM No.105964012
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>>105959136 (OP)
Get the paid version, is so much better, you don't know what you are missing out!
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:39:21 AM No.105964029
>>105963988
i mean
>youre obviously sub 80 iq
>what is it that youre trying to achieve?
what is there even to understand in this phrase
youre zlow
fukken get out of the fast lane retard
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:53:51 AM No.105965326
>>105959152
yes, she still beautiful like the first time i see her
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 4:18:59 PM No.105967600
>>105959223
>The backend should log each register and login and safe data for later checkup and use, so if the server goes offline and back online its still all saved.
A human wouldn't be able to produce anything useful with that prompt. What do you actually want to accomplish?
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 4:31:56 PM No.105967687
>>105963725
define soulless you ESL nigger animal
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7/20/2025, 4:32:34 PM No.105967691
>Do I still need to use my brain in 2025 to create high-quality, working code?
Of fucking course you do, you lazy, gen Alpha child.
People are all like "oh, Chat GPT will replace coders..." yea, not any time soon if you need the product to work reliably.
Though, I guess, people don't care if their products work, only if they sell. -_-

Fuck this gay earth.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:43:39 PM No.105969868
>>105959136 (OP)
i just have a subscription because i like to do creative writing with it and i also use it as a replacement for web search engines.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:45:29 PM No.105969884
>>105959265
every time i ask gemini, claude or chatgpt to solve a real world problem they basically shit the bed after a couple of coding iterations.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:51:42 PM No.105971785
There are so many ESLs in this thread and they're arguing with each other.