Is this how x64 arch dies? Is this their plan?

x64 is an AMD invention and AMD continues to manufacture good chips. US manufacturing just isn't competitive.

>>105965030 (OP)
This just in, Intel CEO applies to have 6000 Chinese given visas to fill those roles.

>>105965059
he wouldn't

>>105965044
When Intel goes under, the IP sharing agreement between Intel and AMD guarantees that the company that buys Intel’s assets does NOT get the rights to use x86 architecture, leaving AMD the sole surviving heir to x86.
This, of course, was supposed to go the other way; Intel never thought they’d be the ones leaving this plane of existence.

>>105965084
This will create a defacto monopoly and will fuck us all. Give x86 to the people!

>>105965030 (OP)
X64 is still Intel most profitable product. I am pretty sure they are going to end arc GPUs soon enough.

>>105965084
Not really. The cross licensing ends... For both parties. Amd can't do shit without Intel licences.

>>105965245
So it will be finally free and everyone will be able to make CPUs again?

>>105965099
It already did. A 7800/9800X3D tier chip used to go for 300$ now it's 500$. You can expect the next generation to be 700$.

The only reason I don't hate AMD with the same passion as Intel is that there no news on AMD literally shoving cash into other peoples mouthes to avoid Intel.

And there a bigger jew to fry called Nvidia.

>>105965266
All "white" companies are being taken over by China and India and americans clap. You literaly voted for this.

>>105965260
This makes me wonder what wod happen if x86 became open tomorrow. Would companies start bothering with it or would they just go to risc-v..

>>105965266
how do i escape intel, amd, and nvidia

>>105965282
Does risc-v have any third-party hardware support and drivers? What's the appeal? I need a 32 thread cpu for my server.

>>105965286
apple is the only way

>>105965286
China and Russia have their own CPUs.

>>105965245
We've already seen that the x86 licensing is a complex nightmare entirely independent of the survival of any company structures
Vortex and Via both took a long way around with their licenses to get to their current position with several defunct companies in-between without any renewals or other business involving Intel at any point since the agreements were first signed like thirty years back

>>105965084
All those patents have expired

>>105965044
the jews want to take away x64 windows and force us on (((arm)))

>>105965286
I don't expect you to believe this, but with riscv and extremely efficient software that doesn't need bleeding edge performance.

>>105965286
You can go and become a macfag and enjoy your ARM.
You could also buy some Chinese ARM laptops thats what companies like Huawei pivoted to when sanctions hit them.
https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-launches-qingyun-l420x-notebook-with-2-8k-screen-long-battery-life/
None of these are really compatible with anything windows or any of the programs you're using to running but if you just need to work in your browser or need to code they're perfectly usable.

I think a sign of things to come to be honest, what drives the x64/x86 architecture is massive legacy. There too much stuff that just works.

But let's be real for new Chinese consumers or for goverments this isn't really an issue. EU and China could easily move to Linux with open office and then modify them as much as they wanted and it would all work on ARM PCs and Laptops. Most office work is just that spreadsheet software and a browser. In 10~20 years you'll probably see most of the non US countries running something like this on their own software to avoid US spying.

>>105965282
You'd probably have China making chips and competing with AMD but in quite a few years until then doubt much would change.

>>105965295
good point. pls god never let x86 die.

>>105965245
> amd cant do shit
That all changed when amd_64 dominated over Itainium.
If, say, broadcom bought what’s left of Intel, they wouldn’t have the rights to make amd_64 processors.

And, yeah, a lot of the older stuff shoukd be out in the open now.

>>105965099
>Monopoly
No, only if AMD will abuse their position in the market will this create a monopoly. Also Intel was fined for being a monopoly nothing happened to them because of the fines.

>>105965030 (OP)
dont care, i will buy an x86 tablet computer

>>105965030 (OP)
they had over 120k employees at some point, they never needed that many retards to run the company especially when amd has around 20k employees and performs better
the company is just healing.

>>105965555
I think latest internal count that went public said 108,900 employees in 2024. So this is like a ~5% cut in employees

>>105965340
some have. depends on what functionality is used. you might end up having to license from intel and amd to just make one chip. these fags could keep extending x86 chips with new patents. there's no incentive for anyone to make x86 chips with all latest features and amd/intel maintain their monopoly.

really, x86(64) has something arm will never have and that is backwards compatibility with all the x86 binaries from the last 30 years.

i like arm too but x86 is here to stay for another 50 years or until virtualization overhead is no longer a problem of x86 on arm

>>105965820
apple already solved x86 emulation back in 2019 with their M1

>>105965030 (OP)
>x64
Funny way to spell "AMD64".

>>105966027
>opinion discarded

>>105966027
It still works like shit and compatibility is poor.

>>105965555
Not a fair comparison when most of Intel's employees are for manufacturing, whereas AMD does absolutely none of it themselves

>>105965030 (OP)
Apple supremacy *now*
Thanks Tim

>>105966250
at its peak intel had more swe than amd had employees...

>>105966027
it's not emulation, it's translation, and it's not all that great or fast. apple really were hoping that their move to ARM would get them more market share but nothing changed. their market share didn't grow. it's still hasn't grown all these years later.

>>105965044
>US manufacturing just isn't competitive.
That's because the tariffs are not high enough.

>>105965030 (OP)
>that time the israeli backdoors in intel cpus got leaked and all intel processors across the board got a permanent -20% performance hit

>>105966081
nobody needs x80shit anymore.
it failed, move to riscV

>>105965820
I think there will definitely be a push towards ARM in the future, just the translation layer needs to be improved. It will stay for legacy and embedded systems for a long time.

>>105966446
intel is at peak comedy levels these days

>>105967457
Good x86 emulation requires hardware support. A vanilla arm core cannot run x86 code efficiently using any translation layer that could reasonably be written.

>>105967262
why not "x80dicks"?

>>105965030 (OP)
>>105965084
you people are so melodrammatic, no one needs x64. RISC-V is more than good enough and the high end, not meme PC gaymer, but very high end enterprise users can just keep using POWER CPUs

>>105967813
>no one needs x64
LMAO

>>105967825
>muh video editing
>muh compiling super duper security optimization that needs 300GB of ram
you can make do with all the shit that exists that will last you for another decade. Most people dont need any of the x86/x64 hence Intel's decline and ARM's entrenchment in even server space

>>105967894
Most people and idiots and should not be allowed anywhere near a computer.

>>105968046
>Most people and idiots
you need both to remain profitable, it's the same story with SPARC.
>no one needs SPARC
>LMAO you've never worked in the real industry, my billion dollar company with 3 to 5 employees built a warehouse for this ISA with specialized software that only runs on this ISA because it's the only one that does the job
>what do you mean 99.999% of the market just want cheaper power efficient chips for dumb tasks
x86 is dead and everyone who says you "need" it are running Xeons from a decade ago
same story happened to POWER when Apple kicked it to the curb for Intel but like Intel, POWER locked into the actual very very high end workloads and the very very specialized niche cases like space grade CPUs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_RAD6000
no one needs NEW x86/x64 and because of that, it's dead

>>105968100
nasa ditched power in 2022, they now use risc-v

>>105967813
risc-v is a joke isa

>>105965286
>that webm
You just know...

>>105968590
Jim keller disagrees

this is so obviously a 2-3 bagger stock

>>105967813
It’t true POWER/PowerPC lords over x64/amd64 in many ways, like multi-processor ability, cache, etc.
Risc-V is a new, toy architecture from a master’s thesis. There’s not much to it. It’s horrible to write for, and doesn’t come close to ARM anywhere except for cheaper licensing costs. Both are horrible to program.
x86/amd64, on the other hand is a joy to write for.

>>105967756
Already copyrighted by you're mom

Thanks Tim!

>>105966250
Whole ass TSMC has less than 84k employees right now, Intel still has more than AMD and TSMC combined.

>>105970255
>x86/amd64, on the other hand is a joy to write for.
technology sticks around because its profitable to write for, not how fun it is. POWER people can inspect the microcodes, ARM people want something cheap and RISC-V is cheaper. x86/amd64 is neither hot or cold and it'll be spat out because its entire market segment is being craved out by ARM on all fronts mobile, desktop, server

>>105970808
intel had their own arm cpu (Xscale) but they were so delusional that Atom could replace Arm in moblie phones and tablets that they sold it

translation: intel is hiring over 5,500 h1bs

>>105965084
Intel will never go under, it's an arm of the Israeli government and a critical part of Mossad's cyberwarfare capabilities. They'll continue pumping money into it until the end of time(or America's treats run out)

>>105965075
China would never let them leave

>>105967200
you can jack tariffs up to 5000% - won't matter. you go broke and nobody is rebuilding manufacturing sector in USA. what a joke country.

>>105970808
> carved out
that isn't happening
> mobile
intel were never a real competitor in that space.
> servers
yeah, you'll find nearly all servers in the world are running on x86. arm has been around since 1987. where the fuck have you been? you talk about it like it's new. it took arm nearly 40 years to get where they are now and their application is still extremely limited to microcontrollers and low power devices. get the fuck out of here, tranny. lmao.