>*solves linux"
You literally don't need anything else. It's stable while being cutting edge. Deprecates both stable fossils like debian and schizophrenic rolling distros like arch. Linus Torvalds Himself also uses it.

>>105965483 (OP)
>Linus Torvalds Himself
Stop putting this autist on a pedestal, he's fucking retarded.

>>105965510
Stop using linux then

>>105965516
I use Windows 10. It just works.

>>105965483 (OP)
Thanks I'm still using windows 10.

>>105965483 (OP)
It's pretty good, but it has its own problems.

Is it possible yet to install NVIDIA drivers without consulting forum posts?

>>105965525
Based.

>>105965530
No of course not.

>>105965519
>>105965525
>>105965535
Hello winjeet saar
>>105965530
You can install them through gnome software

It's a good base for spins like Bazzite. OpenSUSE is also good.

>>105965547
>gnome software
Does that work on Fedora KDE?

>>105965562
I like suse but never had a reason to use yast which is its selling point. Still a great rolling release.

>>105965483 (OP)
Genuinely asking here.
How's the XFCE spin of Fedora?
What are the must install programs after installing Fedora Linux?

And with modern beefy hardware how well will Fedora XFCE handle Blender doing high end shit?

>t. trying to move from Linux Mint after experiencing a lot of crashes
I'm hoping that it is Linux Mint and not my gayming PC being assembled incorrectly or having faulty hardware.

>>105965583
I don't use Krash DE so I have no idea. KDE is a meme. Worst case scenario just copy and paste all those rpm fusion commands.

>>105965530
Yeah, I just installed mine with the "allow third party repositories" or whatever it was called button during the install. Even then, just read https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

>>105965605
Is there any reason to use Fedora over Nobara? Nobara just looks like Fedora except it already works.

>>105965595
I haven't used it but I recommend using the workstation edition as a, well workstation. Then install whatever you like on your casual use device.

>>105965483 (OP)

Windows refugee here. Moved to a LibeBoot'd t480s. It's very based.

My main complaint about Fedora so far is the fucking name.

I am honestly ashamed to tell people my OS. Hey, you know that meme about losers/atheists and their fedoras? Well someone made an OS based on that.

I understand Fedora's connection to Red Hat linux but Fedora is such a dumb fucking name. It hurts.

Also, not being able to play h265 video out of the box is pretty wild but freedums I guess.

something about their Wayland implementation shit itself last month, both on GNOME and KDE I was getting purple artifacts all over the screen unless I switched to 60fps (amd gpu). I'm on ubuntu 25.04 now with no issues

>>105965483 (OP)
>stable while being cutting edge
I don't give a fuck bout the cutting edge, but you go ahead and enjoy your updoots. I'll be fine with Debian the boring fossil.

>>105965617
Look into nobara or one of the universal blue images to solve your problems.

>>105965617
Sorry champ, fedoras are cool again

>>105965631
Debian makes sense when rolling releases are a fucking mess, which isn't the case now. Keep up with the times old man.

>>105965483 (OP)
Isn’t it owned by IBM? Isn’t the whole company Indian run ? Why would I want that?

Truly the Windows 10 of Linux

>>105965649
It's community made
>>105965703
What's the windows xp of linux? Debian? Guess ubuntu would be win7.

>>105965617
Nigger is someone happens to ask me wtf he's looking at in my monitor i just tell "that's linux" and be done with.

>>105965588
I use yast once in a while if I want to configure something that I won't touch again for an eternity. But yeah, for package management for example, it's faster to just use zypper itself.

>>105965483 (OP)
wish it didn't have the cringe hat for a name

When I installed it the gamma was all fucked up with no way to fix it. Thought it was a Wayland thing but I don't have the problem on Debian for some reason, so might be a GPU thing then

>>105965745
I wonder how their atomic spin will turn out. Ubuntu is making one as well.

>>105965716
> it’s community made
Yeah and the “community” is called red hat engineers. No matter how much they act like they are “just like every other member” there is a clear Indian flavor to it. As well as IBM leaking their corporate hands into it through red hat.

>>105965483 (OP)
>This thread
https://youtu.be/kGJR4ju6DVY

>>105965779
You do realize linux as a whole is corpo funded?

>>105965796
Even LfN?

>>105965547
>Hello winjeet saar
Hi jobless tranny.

>>105965796
“Corpo funded” and “corpo controlled” are not the same thing retard IBM funds AND digs their claws in through Redhat, this doesn’t happen on gentoo, arch, solus, etc.

>>105965797
Dunno
>>105965802
But I work doe. Using fedora infact.
>>105965876
Yeah it does. They control the flow of money, thus the development. If they decided to pull the plug say goodbye to your tinkertranny distros :)

>>105965921
Tinker tranny distros rely on hobby free work and donations you jeet. When the funding dries up it’ll simply go back tk development the same way it has always been developed. You wouldn’t know this because your retarded jeet ass got access to the internet 5 years ago.

>>105965649
>Why would I want that?
Well, let me ask you: why would you care who made the software that does what you need it to do and which you get to use for free? Why is the parent company and its supposed racial makeup, seemingly the main factor in an OS for you?

>>105965530
im using fedora kde. no i had to look up how to install the proprietary nvidia drivers , thats definitely an inconvenience. they should have made it a simple option during installation

>>105965964
What about the kernel?

>*solves fedora*

>>105965483 (OP)
I'm just swapping from workstation to Silverblue.

>>105965510
THE ragebait

>>105965483 (OP)
I don't trust corporate distros sorry

>>105965611
IDK what to tell ya because it's the first I'm hearing about that particular distro.

>>105965876
>this doesn’t happen on gentoo, arch, solus, etc.
lol lmao even

>>105965483 (OP)
>Linus Torvalds Himself also uses it.
He uses Fedora everyday in 2025? Prove it

>>105967025
i got no proof of this being the case in the current year, but it's probably safe to assume that he hasn't distrohopped from Fedora since a few years ago, since we haven't heard anything like that (and we probably would have) and since he is very open about the fact he doesn't really give a fuck about distros as long as they're easy to install and don't get in the way of his work

ubuntu pro is all you need and its free

>>105967210
ubuntu pro is paid duh

>>105967234
paid for organizations

>>105967234
Nope
>>105967210
I didn't get the option to sign up for it when I switched to 25.4, I guess it's only meant for LTS?

>>105967244
>I guess it's only meant for LTS?
Yes.

>>105965595
there are better XFCE distros.

>>105965621
congratulations on opening your eyes to the real distro

>>105966002
Jeets make bad code and I’m sure that taking a look at their recent commits would show you 1. The racial makeup of the current devs 2. The quality of their code. I want my code made by intelligent high IQ white men (Arch)

You guys should be aware that Fedora's build infrastructure (Pagure) has pretty weak security and can be easily hacked to serve malicious packages to users. So you might get malware straight from the official repo.

https://fenrisk.com/pagure

Not to mention Fedora's official packages aren't very reliable anyway. For example, they disable Control Flow Integrity, an important security mitigation, on the Chromium package.

https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/chromium/138.0.7204.157/1.fc43/data/logs/x86_64/build.log
> is_cfi=false

>>105969179
Surely IBM trying to create backdoors to sell so they can get more money as military contractors

>>105969179
>Conclusion
>Overall, this is a very simple bug that was only made technically interesting because of the little exploitation twist and its huge impact. The migration to Forgejo will hopefully make Fedora’s package hosting platform less of an easy target and reduce the likelihood of such supply chain attacks.
so a nothingburger?

I'm thinking about gentoo when win10 support ends

>>105965716
Debian is the Windows LTSC of Linux.

>>105965621
Just don't use anything wayland related. Literally you just solve 90% of issues by ditching that shit. Try again in 10 years.

KILL YOURSELF REDJEW FEDORANIGGER

>>105970203
If you mean the intended use cases of LTSC, sure. As a desktop distro it's far inferior to LTSC Windows.

HANG ALL REDJEW FEDORANIGGERS

>>105967856
>there are better XFCE distros
Such as?

KILL ALL REDJEW FEDORANIGGER SHILLS

>>105970311
MX-XFCE and Endeavour

>>105970271
>>105970290
Hi Jeet

>>105970362
Both shit. If you are using xfce go with debian,xubuntu or mint.

>>105970362
Thanks. I'm currently using Fedora XFCE and haven't had any crashing problems. [spoiler]Yet. [/spoiler] But if I start getting a lot of problems then I'll try those out.

REDJEW FEDORA NIGGER SHILLS WILL BURN IN HELL

>>105970420
why are you so obsessed

>>105970428
Because windblows is losing

>>105970435
how-does-that-affect-you-personally.jpg

>>105965530
Yes. It's literally two clicks in the GUI to install them. You don't even have to open a terminal window.

>>105966022
You're fucking retarded. You can install them from Discover and it DOES ask you if you want to do this during the installation process. The greeter that pops up on first boot specifically asks you if you want to turn on the RPM Fusion repositories. But you're an 80 IQ ESL who just skipped through all that without reading it, then wondered why they were having issues.

>>105970272
I fully meant the former and completely agree with the latter.

>>105970485
saw no such thing during the installer

>>105965483 (OP)
You can't be stable AND bleeding edge

The whole point of using Linux is to tinker so hard that the frustration builds so much that it leads to you wanting to cut your penis off. They don't want the perfect distro, they want to tinker.

>>105965483 (OP)
wouldn't centOS stream provide more stability. Plus it's semi rolling so you don't have to upgrade every 13 months

>>105971144
The dirty little secret is that it was invented by Microsoft as a warning to disgruntled users about how bad things could *really* be.

>>105971229
Bill-sama, i kneel

>>105971144
not really, just install something like ubuntu or fedora, tinker for about an hour and you're set
any issue that comes up down the line isn't all that different from windows

>>105969781
Fedora is still using Pagure, the move to Forgejo is just a plan. And the fact that the bug was simple to exploit is a bad sign IMO.

My realtek onboard sound doesn't work.
So nope.

Doesn't solve shit.

I was on Linux Mint, and Cinnamon was too simple for my taste, so I installed KDE.
While KDE was great, the experience of Mint+KDE was not.

Now I am on Fedora with KDE, and everything looks so much better. It's been 4 days so far, and I haven't experienced a single Krash yet.

>>105971727
Did you do any tech stuff to make KDE use less resources by chance?

>>105971781
No, I did not.
That's actually why I went with Linux Mint in the first place.
I don't want to spice, I don't want to tweak. I just want something that works out of the box.
Unfortunately installing KDE completely fucked up my Mint install, and gave me multiple updates and notification centres and all. That was my main gripe, and why I wanted a cleaner setup.

I don't feel like my current Fedora+KDE is that resource intensive. Firefox is taking up 7 gigs of RAM alone, so doesn't seem that out of the ordinary.

>>105971850
What software is your pic using? I need something like that.
Maybe I should give the kde version a try now.

>>105971308
Tinker for a hour? You'll never been trans retard.

>>105971871
I'm just on completely stock Fedora with KDE.
Currently have Telegram and Windscribe running on the background.
Firefox (~90 tabs) and VSC (3 files) running in the foreground.

You could say I fell for the memes in here, but so far I've been very impressed.
You shouldn't always believe what you read on the internet, and especially not on 4chan, but this time around, it seems that /g/ was right.

>>105965530
redhat wrote new linux drivers for the linux kernel so you dont have to "install drivers" anymore.

>>105965530
I mean, it's not particularly hard but why bother when you can just run fucking Windows instead.
Everything in Linux boils down to that. It's just doing extra work to do what you were already able to do so you can feel like you're elite because you've got nothing else going on in your life.
t. former long term Linux user

>>105972190
>when you can just run fucking Windows instead
Except you can't.
I'm >>105971960, and as you can see I have a perfectly normal system. A bit outdated, sure, but nothing antique to say the least.

But even though my hardware is completely usable, and still has many years left it in, I'm unable to install W11, since I do not have TPM 2.0 in my CPU.

So no. You can't "just run Windows".
And if you're gonna start suggesting me to create custom ISO files, or fidgeting with reg keys, I will still raise you the Linux card, since it just, fucking, works.

>>105972443
You don't need a custom ISO.
You just need a copy of the ISO and a computer with Rufus on it. Rufus will install a bypass and it works great.
Throw on LTSC instead of Home or Pro and you have a barebones system stripped of most the bloat. Stable as fuck.
So you see, you don't know everything.

>>105972535
NTA bit since fedora workstation opened my eyes with stock GNOME I'll never go back to a windows like workflow. Plus win11 is just a technical mess. Win10 was atleast tolerable.

>>105972564
Win 11 is better when you use LTSC because it only adds feature updates every three years and leaves out all the shit no one wants.
Honestly, some of the workflows from Linux desktops are the only things I really miss at this point. Those are nice - I like hitting meta+# to change workspaces.
My bigger problem with Linux, though, is that it will never be a finished product. There will always be new bugs, new things that lack polish and have to be worked around. The only testers are the people running testing. It was fun in the beginning but I'm at a point in my life where I have other things to do than work on my computer instead of with my computer.

>>105965716
>What's the windows xp of linux?
Any distro that has LXDE/LXQT as DE

>>105965483 (OP)
but didn't they take out 32 bit support?

Or was that just FUD?

>>105972907
It was proposed, then withdrawn within a week.

>>105972618
>My bigger problem with Linux, though, is that it will never be a finished product
Debian?

>>105966653
Not ragebait pal

>>105973705
Didn't we convict Debian of harboring a nonce or something?

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC on the lappies, Android on the phone. Yep, it's proper working time.

YESSIR.

>>105965483 (OP)
The final redpill is that Fedora is the one true distro... in its immutable form. Traditional Linux package management is outdated and holding its wider adoption on the desktop back.

arch is where its at. or linux mint.

>>105974724
>can't do shit on your computer, because you hands are always tied behind your back
No, it's the absolute retard that wants 0 control over his system's distro.
It's fine for devices like handhelds and htpc, but pointless for a regular PC.

>>105974208
Based monke

>>105965483 (OP)
>*solves linux"
the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one
we may be witnessing a linux user growing up finally

>>105971960
It is with great sorrow that must confess that I had my first crash to login page with Fedora XFCE edition.
I now have an excuse to try KDE.

>>105965483 (OP)
HAHAHHAHAHA, whew, absolute plebeian, good one

>>105965530
You install Gemini CLI, and then ask it to do it.

>>105965483 (OP)
>deletes your X11

>>105965483 (OP)
Hey remember when Fedora threatened to kill support for 34-bit architecture for the sake of 'progress' and then relented when people complained that this would make a shit ton of programs unworkable, and would literally kill Distros like Bazzite?

I do!

>>105977990
You don't need that.

>>105977837
God speed, Anon.
I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I do.

>>105965530
The rpmfusion tutorial worked great on my laptop with a 2060. I was actually surprised because I was so used to nvidia shit not working.
The system's key thingy isn't brought up in every update like it used to in my older laptop, so I'd say it's actually usable now. Not beginner friendly even if it's just like two commands, but doable.
My next laptop is going to be AMD though because it's less hassle.

>>105978868
If you get Linux Mint you can just install Nvidia Drivers through the built-in driver manager. Works on my machine (TM).

>>105965588
Yast is deprecated in the upcoming leap, tumbleweed will follow

>>105974895
It actually works really well.
They idea is that you have a rock solid base that either updates perfectly or not at all, preventing breakages. You can still configure the base system in the ways you need using rpm-ostree. Immutability means developers can better guarantee that the software in the base will work well together and makes it more sturdy.
Contrary to popular opinion, you also don't have to stick to flatpaks. Although I don't use Silverblue now, when I did I prefered using distrobox, which allowed me to run any distro I wanted on top of the immutable base. And you can fiddle with those to your heart's content because they're containerized.
It's for people who aren't looking to tinker with the base. Not everyone is looking to do that and, after using Linux for an extended amount of time, I think most people get to that point.
It might be fun to work on your car when you're in your teens and twenties but once you've got a career and other things in life you kind of just want to drive them. And the point of Silverblue is to create an open source distribution that can be kept both up to date as well as not break.

>Just werks + gaming
Nobara made me delete my w10 ltsc dualboot, i don't need it anymore

>>105965510
What's your problem? Are you trans?

>>105965483 (OP)
I did a minimal install of Fedora 42 the other day in a vm, i was surprised how minimal I could get a working gnome desktop with standard gnome apps.
Package count is now at 1072, where as if you install the desktop bloated version you get close to 2000 pkgs. Still not as good as archlinux though, so hard pass.
Pacman is far more superior to dnf and yum.

>>105982032
>muh minimal install
That's a very pointless hobby.
>Still not as good as archlinux though
I hope you at least are aware that arch's packages are bloated by not separating dev from user packages

>>105982032
Bah, by that reasoning you should be using Gentoo since it mogs Arch in all those categories.

>>105980094
It's the best.

>>105972443
>will still raise you the Linux card, since it just, fucking, works.

It doesn't tho. You don't even have a quality music player with equalizer options.
And its been 20 years.

I don't want my shit logged in binary, systemdickhead.

openSUSE Leap won

>>105982624
>>muh minimal install
>That's a very pointless hobby.
Less attack surface and I set up fedora because i want to learn how dnf, yum and dracut work, fedora seems like the best way.

>I hope you at least are aware that arch's packages are bloated by not separating dev from user packages
having dev packaged for the user is a good thing imo. File size might be bigger but package count low. Archlinux is after all a bleeding edge linux distro.