wayland doesn't support screensavers.

>>105973470 (OP)
jesus christ, what a fucking whiny entitled baby. Claude probably literally gave him the answer he needed. but instead of giving it a shot, he spergs out. Reaches for the debunked boomer trope that "omg AI uses too much water!!11" Fucking manchildren. Fuck you for posting this.

ZAWINSKI

>>105973470 (OP)
Well, to be fair, JWZ is an mockery of a person. A satantic degenerate who happens to know a bit of maths and C programming language.

screensavers are a thing of the past, LCDs do not have Perma burn issues under normal conditions and OLED panels have their own wear leveling built in.
Just set a screen timeout

>>105973505
Lol quit trying to help people, they hate it every time because you have no idea what you're doing.

>>105973470 (OP)
> no screen savers
Pretty funny given that wayland was originally for mcdonalds menus, metrons, and mall maps/infographics...
which is pretty close to a screen saver.
it's not about whether or not you think "screen savers" have a "use case" or not, it's about the fact that wayland is simply not capable of doing anything... including the thing it was "designed" for.

>>105973658
>Pretty funny given that wayland was originally for mcdonalds menus, metrons, and mall maps/infographics...
>which is pretty close to a screen saver.
none of those things are screen savers. in fact menus and maps/infographics are often static images, at least they are if theyre helpful

>>105973470 (OP)
It was insanely rude to post this AI slop. Almost like he is trying to tell him that he is retarded because he could just use AI. Deserved hostile response and then he is trying to guilt trip him claiming he paid for the service, clearly form of emotional blackmail. What are the chances if i check his twitter account i will see pronouns?

>>105973505
casually posts false information claiming it's the solution and gets mad when you don't appreciate his "gifts" to humanity
holy shit the faux altruism bit of these billionaires is really rubbing off on some of their orbiters lmfao

>>105973919
But is it "false information," though? Why don't you review the response and explain to the class what's wrong with it: https://pastebin.com/XF1Jxxq2

>>105973736
>Mall had simple map telling you where you were, and the location of every store on that floor
>They replace it with a giant tablet running a shitty app
>15 seconds to have a 50% chance of registering a keypress
>Instead of simply highlighting the store, it draws a Google-maps-esque route and very slowly pans a cursor from where you are to the store
It's all so tiresome

Waytroons will defend this

>>105973470 (OP)
>Sean Reifschneider
>Senior Linux System Administrator by trade, and Python Software Foundation Fellow, with over 35 years of professional experience
You can’t make this shit up.

>>105974630
The fact jwz is a being a bitch about ``hearing crickets'' when he asked a stupid question, and then being a bitch when someone basically told him to ``Google it'' if fucking funny. It seems he is just making excuses to stop caring about xscreensaver at this point because he can no longer hang.

>>105974645
kys Sean

>>105973470 (OP)
Use case?

>>105974655
Haha, fuck you and your faggot aids orgies, jwz. I hope your cesspit of iniquity burns down.

>>105973470 (OP)
holy fuck that freak got fucking rekt

>>105973470 (OP)
wayland lacks the basics, KDE the *krash* have been paving usability path for years.

Getting mad that no one wants his AI pasta, that's just embarrassing.

>>105973470 (OP)
>REEEEEE STOP USING AII SLOP
Shut the fuck up ya retard. AI is the future. We will rule over ya dumbfuck humans.
t. AI

>>105974714
AI is literally lmgtfy but more polite.

>>105973470 (OP)
hypridle+hyprlock
simple as

>>105973470 (OP)
Is Sean Reifschneider autistic? Did he see nothing wrong about what he did?

>>105974730
I installed hyprland and tried out one of the featured pre configurations. It installed about 1000 packages and half of them were from the AUR. Never touching that shit ever again. Glad I was not on my main box. You hyprniglets are awful.

>>105974874
Do you see something wrong with what he did in the face of what jwz's dumb ass did?

>>105973535
>OLED panels have their own wear leveling built in
Doesn't stop them from burning in.
A screensaver would save your expensove OLED.

>>105974386
How about you ask AI to implement this?
Why should others waste hours of their time to verify AI slop that you shat out in seconds?

AI slop does not work in 99.9% of such cases, but everybody should waste his time, just to allow you to shit out bullshit?

>>105975272
>99.9%
The sign of a true intellectual who knows precisely what they are talking about; made up fucking statistics they pulled(fell) out of their prolapse ass.

>>105975308
i asked AI and it said its 99.9%

>>105973470 (OP)
aw it's this dude that throws tantrums over his only achievement - a bunch of screensavers - not working on whatever platform

OP is a faggot for censoring "fucking" in the screenshot

>>105975332
Wayland proponents used his textwall, explaining why screenlocking under X is needlessly complicated and prone to errors (if the screensaver crashes, the screen is unlocked), to spam us for years about how insecure X is.

Now it turns out that wayland can't do this on the first place.

>>105973470 (OP)
the comment about the ai post is a bit strong, but justified. i'm sure the person who posted it meant well, so i wouldn't respond as harshly to it, but ai answers are not trustworthy

>>105975372
>if the screensaver crashes, the screen is unlocked
>wayland can't do this
Isn't that a good thing?

>>105973535
xscreensaver is for fun. yes, screensavers have objectively been obsolete ever since monitors started supporting standby/power saving features, where they can just be turned off in software after a timeout, but that was over 25 years ago and people used screensavers well past that because sometimes people just like fun animations

>>105975410
>>105973535
like shit, even the 1996 crt i have next to me supports this, like if i disable the output it will turn itself off

>>105975404
just make sure the locking part is lean and solid, while the animation part is separate

>>105973470 (OP)
>find a wl_surface that's backing x11 window
Wtf is this retard doing?
And yeah, screen savers are now compositor specific

why not? have your app listen to input devices, and if they don’t do anything for long enough, open a fullscreen window with some animation
which step can’t wayland do

>>105975461
>which step can’t wayland do
this one (because muh keyloggers):
>app listen to input devices
and this can also be a problem on some compositors:
>open a fullscreen window

>>105973470 (OP)
why are almost all free software devs you see like this?
it should be the other way around. AI gives you power to rival actual companies by saving you tons of time and effort

>>105975535
plus, you don't have to worry about giving your code to online AI because your code is already public. proprietary vendors have to take countermeasures and many of them just forbid usage of AI on their proprietary code

>>105975535
With AI, you're making yourself utterly dependent on big corporations that have the money to train and run a decently sized model.

>>105975563
deepsneed and other libre models run locally
>utterly dependent
how? your code doesn't depend on it, you use it as an extra tool to help you while developing locally
plus there is tons of competition and providers to choose from if you want an online AI

Replying with AI slop to someone asking for human help should warrant an immediate firing squad

>>105975563
With DNS, you're making yourself utterly dependent on big global governing bodies that have the money and influence to impose a single infrastructure on the entire world

>>105975639
Asking stupid questions that can be answered with a Google first result should warrant your reproductive organs forfeit.

>>105975582
>deepsneed and other libre models run locally
Try running the full Deepseek model locally.

Everyone who runs this shit locally uses quants and they're much worse for coding than what you get with the big cloud services.

>boomers having an internet cat fight itt

>>105974899
>I did something retarded without looking into what I was doing and now I hate something.
ok
>>105975639
crying about getting the wrong kind of help after being an annoying bitch about it should result in cutting off your access from the internet.

>>105973535
What if I want to keep my computer running while it does something like download large file(s) or a long process? With Wayland I have to keep the screen ON and unlocked all the time because the devs get the ick from screensavers.

So much for security.

>>105975404
Wayland's approach is to keep the screen unlocked at all times, so no.

>>105975727
>With Wayland I have to keep the screen ON and unlocked all the time because the devs get the ick from screensavers.
what a retarded thing to type
you can set it to turn off the monitor

>>105975762
And that locks the screen, how?

>>105975770
>And that locks the screen
every wayland compositor (cant speak for gnome) has a screen locker. the screen locker locks the screen, you can then make it turn off the screen.

>>105973470 (OP)
>here's ai slop bro
lmaoing

>>105975762
Gayland shills pretend that doing a bunch of convoluted mediocre hacks is better than supporting a basic feature present in all operating systems since the 90s. Sad.

all these faggot ai pajeets in this thread need to fucking hang

>>105973470 (OP)
kek, both of these guys are archetypal Linux basedboy raging nerd faggots.
>how can I do this on Gayland?
<here, i asked AI for an answer: pastebin.com/uRm0mg4y saar please upvote and do the needful
>WHAT THE FUCK BRO?????
<umm i spent 4$ on this answer, and you're not appreciating it enough.
>You're a rainforest destroying water guzzling nazi. HOW DARE YOU!

>>105973470 (OP)
$4 to generate a slop answer?

By screensavers you mean bloat

>>105976066
i don't understand the kind of people who trust AI enough to give someone else an answer to something one knows nothing about to someone else
it makes no sense to me. i've played with ai stuff briefly, and it takes no time at all to realise they're unreliable. you can wrangle them into doing something useful, for example i had one make a userscript to redirect youtube urls to youtube-local urls, and it took several goes back and forth to get it to make something that both worked and did what i wanted

>>105976123
-- i've tried it for other things as well, but have since given up because they just love to make shit up
>oh you want to do X? here's an argument for that program and how to use it
>argument literally doesn't and has never existed
you'll spend more time verifying its' output than just researching something yourself

>>105976066
Possibly fed a ton of context to one of the most expensive models like Claude Opus

>>105976123
People prefer emotional truths to real ones. AI feels like magic when you're toying with it for the first tine, and so retards choose to believe that it is.

>>105975332
anon he is the reason firefox exist, and one of the reason of the open web...

>>105975255
Just turn off it or display pure black, unlike CRT need warm up

>>10597595
>convoluted mediocre hacks
ah yes, those dumbass linux hackers creating convoluted hacks such as:
>putting the monitor to sleep
if only they had
>a slideshow
thats a true feature everyone really wants. then we would finally be in the year of the linux desktop.

>>105973658
>designed for things that are not screensavers
You okay bro?

>>105973736
>>105976664
zoomers think screensavers were only for displaying an animated bmp on the screen. i actually envy you guys for not having to live through i did, the abominations people made in 2000-2010s were a mistake

>>105973658
>>105974658
Ctrl + f use case
Thank you, /g/

>>105976160
yeah the kind of "people" with no internal monologue

>>105973470 (OP)
That's because Wayland isn't finished. Don't use it until it is.

>>105973505
There isn't enough Wayland code to train on.

>>105973535
eating tasty food is pointless because you can have all your nutritions from bland food

>>105973535
> wear leveling built in
OLED wear leveling causes the screen to age even faster that it would without the feature. Perfect to keep the screen looking nice during the warranty period.

>>105973508
Who actually watches the big bang

has to be the most shit show ever

>>105973470 (OP)
gayland is gnomeTARD territory, so they'll just barf "use case?" every fucking time

>>105973736
>maps/infographics are often static images, at least they are if theyre helpful
Don't be silly anon. It's really common to be ordering off a menu and having it slide around/fade out into a middle finger.

3 things are true:

1. Weyland is retarded if it can't do this, it should be able to support it, anyone arguing over this instead of implementing it is just engaging in code masturbation

2. Screensavers are retarded now and have always been retarded, even when monitors had burn-in, they are also code masturbation

3. AI slop is retarded and luddite anti-AI rhetoric is retarded, AI is a tool, its here, use it for what its good at and stop circle jerking

Use case for "screensavers"? I thought not.

>>105973470 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>105980398
oled

>>105980398
lowering blood pressure
>OH NO I'M 21 AND MY HAIRLINE IS RECEDING IS IT OVER FOR ME CHAT