usecase?

>>105974802 (OP)

>>105974824
And why rasberry pi can't do the same?

>>105974832
because pis don't come with industrial rail mount cases. Simatic Inc. 1, pi 0.

>>105974832
the same reason for why nobody gets fired for buying cisco

>>105974885
>implying

>>105975814
Siemens and mitsubishi trannies BTFO

>>105974832
Not certified for industrial use. EMC, fault tolerance

Rasperry is still a toy project

>>105974802 (OP)
Automate your shit.

>>105974802 (OP)
You want company support, not your IT staff having to google problems.

>>105977077
Googling problems with a RPi is easy. Googling problems with an obscure industrial computer is nearly impossible.

>>105977131
>obscure
Siemens S7 is literally the world's most used PLC tardo

And it's industry standard across the world
Meaning the techies with laptops and voltmeters that integrate everything on site in factories will know how to connect to it and how to diagnose it

>>105974802 (OP)
Paper shredder lookin ass

>it's another "anon thinks he's so smart because nobody has ever thought of this" thread

Companies want 1 thing: reliability (or rather, predictability: it's ... ok if the machine fails, but it needs to do so in an orderly manner and production must be resumed asap)

Buying a well-established product with industry certifications and a service support contract is worth a lot more money than the savings on using a raspberry pi in a cheap DIN rail housing someone's nephew slapped together, by far

>>105977405
Op here, thanks for the explanation

>>105977131
they can ship you the 1853 pages long quick start guide for you Steuergerat

>>105977131
Industrial tech needs to be fixable with nothing but a Fluke voltmeter, a scope made in pre-unification Germany, and a half dozen motherfuckers breathing down your neck waiting for shit to get fixed.
Ain't nobody got the time or the inclination to figure out some bullshit software bugs in the field.

Hello I would rather get AIDS than use ladder logic but want a P&C engineering job. Wat do?

>>105979328
Pirated Gxworks

>>105976902
You are still wrong. Half the volume goes to the professional market. It has been like this for years.

>>105974832
Because back in the 80s people tried to run factories on normal PCs but found out quickly that simple things like vibrations could skip code. This is why PLC is defacto king in industry because of its sequential nature.

>>105979779
>wrong
Yeah nah tranny
My post is:
>Not certified for industrial use. EMC, fault tolerance
With my conclusion
>Rasperry is still a toy project

>>105974802 (OP)
Allow all relevant industries to go forward since 3+ decades
>>105974832
>implying that tranny sbc that ACKs itself from a pinch of dust is nearly as good as a PLC thats made to last long years in harsh industrial environments
Yet another proof that /g/ is a consoomer board.

Remember when the Pi would crash if exposed to a camera flash? https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/10/8010457/raspberry-pi-2-crash-camera-flash
That is one example why.

>>105980619
That was ten years ago.

industrial boomer microcontroller

>>105974802 (OP)
>usecase?
I use it as a 24V DC power supply.
Show me the bare pi that can do this
>pro tip - you can't

>>105981463
>>105974802 (OP)
Also, real-time capability and robust 24V I/O.
Countless rpi and arduino based PLCs project exists but none of the people that made those understand industreal electronics. I haven't seen any of those open source PLCs with propperly done input protection.
In the end it' s all just toy project garbage that would die in the industry within the first day.
Siemens has some software limitations, but at least it works.

>>105974802 (OP)
god I hate anything Siemens now. please just kill Simatic and Mendix and all that slop NOW

>>105979779
he isn't wrong, but he also refuses to confront why any of the things he says actually matters in reality. most cert shit is absolute slop, but whatever. this is 4chan.

>>105974832
Jewberry pi doesn't work like a PLC. It's a completely different kind of thing, more like an end user computer. Troonix is not suitable for industrial aplications like this.

Am hardware engineer saar am good with industry saar.

>>105980619
That's the consumer model.

The industrial ones are built differently, and called "compute modules".

>>105981869
Still a toy. No indistreal I/O.

>>105981764
>but he also refuses to confront why any of the things he says actually matters in reality.
plcs have input protection and redundancy and safe failure modes. it's pretty important when you don't want e.g. a hydraulic press to crush someone or destroy itself if your unprotected MCU gets fried and spazzes the fuck out.

>>105976902
>Not certified for industrial use
https://revolutionpi.com/en/raspberry-pi-vs-industrial-raspberry-pi
>certified for industrial use
>PLC standard EN61131-2
>EMC
>Tested electromagnetic compatibility (EMC standards IEC 61000-6-2 and -6-4)
>fault tolerance
>Operating temperature: -25°C to +55°C
>Average operating time (MTBF value): 30.7 years*
>>105974885
>industrial rail mount
>DIN rail housing