Thread 105981523

Windows 11 is absolute dogshit. I am only keeping 1 device as a windows for the kernel anticheat.
I am moving the rest of my devices to Linux (Bazzite and Catchy) and using KDE plasma since it's simple enough to work with.

What should I know as a windows faggot about running linux?
>Pic unrelated

>>105981523 (OP)
use "sudo" when something tells you you have no permissions

Linux isn't a unified ecosystem, everything is its own program. If you're having trouble with your file manager for example, you will have a lot more success if you find what the file manager program is called and Google that specifically, as opposed to the distro name

You can do anything in the terminal, you don't have to do everything in the terminal. Just because a guide sends yo to the terminal it doesn't mean there is an easier way to do it by GUI

The file system structure takes some getting used to. Everything in ~ (/home/your name or /users/home/yourname or something similar) belongs to you, everything else is global and/or system files. Note the leading "/", it matters. /data/myfile.txt is not the same as data/myfile.txt

The Arch wiki has very good instructions for how to do specific things and which software you can use, even if you're not using Arch

I moved to pop os this week

I would set up dual boot to start with. Most games work fine but dx12 is a bit shitty. I was playing hitman 3 and I had to turn off that Nvidia reflex and that shadow bullshit for it to work properly.

Enable ufw ( firewall ) if you plan to host Plex or something. I feel safer with it on regardless.

I use brave and YouTube displays all resolutions. I remember on Firefox years ago it would only go to 720p.

I can grab stuff from nstf drives like pdfs and play my games. I'll probably come across a blocker soon enough but it's great so far

No support for razer and Logitech devices so I'm using my on board memory for the config.

I fucked up my Nvidia drivers by installing the latest causing black screen. Was easy enough to get back took like 10 min just doing the Linux version of safe mode. Alt F3 in boot.

Add your windows drives to /etc/fstab. That was a bit of a cunt to set up. Use ntfs-3g and set them up so they are accessible from your /home/username/

If you want to practice in the terminal before hand you could install windows sub system Linux on windows

>>105981523 (OP)
prepare your anus, and except to eventually wear a chastity cage.

>>105981523 (OP)
Don't download programs from a website like you do in windows. If you want some program, run the package manager and search for its name.

>>105981693
>I fucked up my Nvidia drivers by installing the latest causing black screen
this should be fixed on new gpus with the open source dkms driver, that decouples the kernel and gpu driver versions

>>105981523 (OP)
Distrosea.com try a distro online or use a vm (ex virtualbox).
/g/ bots shill fedora, but the last releases have been unstable and buggy.

>>105981523 (OP)
>Switching to Linux in October
start by learning how to use it right now. install it on a virtual machine and do stuff there, like see if your favorite windows-only program has alternatives or if you can install it and run it with WINE

>>105981803
I may have accidentally installed the experimental branch like a clown but thanks for letting me know.

OP if you have extra drives you need to look at the mount command and the /etc/fstab file. Do some reading into that otherwise your drives won't load.

Also look at Linux paths too because you may install something but the command doesn't work. That would mean it isn't on your path.

Bash is what interprets your commands and when you open a terminal that is what you will see.

When you get more comfortable look at installing zsh and then oh my zsh which is a GitHub link with a theme you like. It's just a better bash which makes navigating the terminal a bit smoother, auto complete and all that. Practice on wsl.

>>105981523 (OP)
>using KDE
yet another retard bites the bullet

>reading this thread
Jesus, Linux is a mess.

>>105981986
Lmfao. Linux is based, little boy

>>105981986
>Do you want to be a botnet node? Yes ----> Windows

>>105981523 (OP)
If you're an absolute noob.. Mint is a good starter step to get used to it.. You should not stay on mint, it has poor multi-monitor support and honestly nothing more then babies first step into linux world. I recommend you do EndeavourOS or Manjaro to get an arch based system. Comes with everything you need and gives you the right reason and setup to learn linux better. As you will need to mess around with terminal at a basic level to configure and download stuff. If googling is hard and you find things difficult to grasp. Then chatgpt, Google Gemini and Claude all works well to aid with basic shit in linux, just don't blindly trust them. (Chatgpt does not require a login to use as well. so that's a plus)

Though be warned if you go EndeavourOS. It's being picky about the EFI partition, I tried to install it over my mint partition but It started crying about the EFI partition being 100mb only. I wants 2048mb, recommends at least 1024mb and as minimum requirement of 512mb. It also wants to install it in /efi and not /boot/efi.. So I had some issues getting it installed because of that. But so far EndeavourOS is fucking miles better then Mint.

>>105981986
>Windows
>Working
I haven't used windows since like... 7 and I always remember how much post install shit I had to do to get my computer fully functioning. When I installed Fedora... 20 something? It literally just worked. I didn't do shit. I still don't do shit because I'm not a retard who buys Broadcom wifi radios or Novideo GPUs.

The best, just works, case I've ever seen with Windows was at work and Windows Server and only because the retards who made the base Linux server image are mentally retarded faggots who can't configure PAM, work with SSSD and need at least 3 or 4 pieces of spyware garbage on the server. Congratulations wincucks. You manage to make a slightly better "just works in corporate hell" server OS that fits with your shitty corporate "endpoints"

>>105982220
Anything is better than a Ubuntu-based distro, such as Mint, Zorin or Anduin.

>>105982237
you're literally working in IT and you use Linux, you're the fucking meme in the flesh.

>>105981693
>fstab
>one error and your pc doesn’t boot
No. Linux Mint can auto mount drives upon boot up.
>You got filtered
Yes, and I’m using a sane distribution now. What’s the benefit of having it mounted with fstab vs Linux Mint’s solution?

>>105981523 (OP)
>kernel anticheat
>Bazzite and Catchy
Running a game, no mods, is usually straightforward. But digging into mods takes a bit of effort. Usually because the authors of the tools/mosd bake so many Windows-isms into them.
But there are two helpful threads that are usually kicking around, >>>/g/fglt and >>>/vg/lgg

>>105981693
>No support for ... Logitech devices
Wut
I use a program called Solaar to adjust things like mouse dpi, etc. Works great with Logitech stuff.

>>105981523 (OP)
Come home.

>>105981523 (OP)
>NIGGUX

>>105983207
I had to use fstab to setup encrypted drives (with auto sign-in) and connect to nfs. You can always save a copy of fstab before and call mount -a to test your new fstab.

>>105982220
Oh wow a Linux thread featuring advice from 2017—a massive improvement over the usual 2004 advice.

For fuck's sake man, you don't need to recommend a distro "to learn" and eventually abandon. Have you seen how good Linux is these days? No? Because you're stuck in your manual Arch/Gentoo echo chamber, right? And somebody should eventually graduate from a "beginner" distro to Gentoo, right? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "BEGINNER DISTRO" ANYMORE; WE JUST HAVE GOOD OPERATING SYSTEMS NOW THAT ANY NOOB OR VETERAN ALIKE CAN PICK UP AND STICK WITH.

Mint earnt its monopoly over Linux noobs in the 2010's, but every single convenience it pioneered is just standard practice in all modern distros. On top of it, Cinnamon uses more resources than Plasma despite being uglier and less customisable. If you want a sensible Windows-like GUI, then you are shooting yourself in the foot not using a Plasma distro.

Distrohopping had a purpose 20 years ago, but anyone who does it today is mentally ill when everything apart from Gentoo serves the exact same purpose and accomplishes them in the exact same way with the exact same results. Linux in 2025 genuinely just fucking works, yet longtime Linux users pretend it doesn't. It's sad that recent Windows refugees are probably more knowledgeable about Linux than veterans lol.

>>105981946
yet another retard echoes the bot spam

>>105981523 (OP)
You are more private, but not more secure, with a basic Linux desktop. To attain security you need to implement Mandatory Access Controls or isolating virtualization. Qubes OS is the latter, handling all the hard work for you while you enjoy the security benefits.

When installing LibreOffice, opt for libreoffice-kf5. Not libreoffice-kf6! Search `Qubes libreoffice-kf5` for more details (like an environment variable which also needs to be set in the template when installing LO). There's a bug in LO which can crash it if you use the default GTK interface.

Be prepared to fix *something* on almost any distro. Nothing is perfect, I opt for security to hedge the imperfection risks.

>>105981523 (OP)
Be open to learning an entirely different way to use a computer. Things won't always be as simple as double clicking an icon and going about your day. You'll have to get your hands dirty sometimes. But eventually you'll learn how to do things with your computer that Windows could never dream of doing.

go ahead and use linuxjourney
thats how i made my friend learn loonix cuz im absolutely retarded when it comes to teaching

>>105981986
>working computer
that's what Ubuntu is for.

>>105981523 (OP)

Switch now. Better to do it with plenty of breathing room instead of rushing at the end. If you choose a friendly distro, it'll be 10x easier than you expect. You won't miss anything. Legit advice.

>>105984434
>Ubuntu
bro doesn't realize its not 2015 anymore

>>105981523 (OP)
Stick to mainstream distributions like Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch. Random one-off forks like MX Linux or CachyOS cause more problems than what they're worth eventually. If you have zero idea of anything you should run Ubuntu. MAYBE an Ubuntu spin like Pop_Os! (the name is garbage, but is just prepackaged Ubuntu by some vendor selling laptops with Linux support)

>>105981523 (OP)
don't ask generic questions because you will get answers from people who know less than you, and are probably retarded.
since you have some time before the switch, start using MSYS2 and familiarize yourself with the terminal, shell (bash, zsh), coreutils (ls,cp,...), package manager (pacman), and the workflow of installing packages via the said package manager. that alone will give more applicable knowledge than 99% of "linux noobs", before you even install a linux-based OS. and you will be aware of how using the CLI is not a "limitation", but rather an advantage. the biggest advantage of all in fact.
if you get this far, you can start looking at PKGBUILDs to see how packages get built, although that's not strictly necessary for you as a beginner.
when the time comes for the switch, install Arch, which will be relatively easy since you already familiarized yourself with pacman.
don't install KDE, or any DE. all you'll get from them is unnecessary bloat and bugs. all you need is a window manager, and a panel (if the WM doesn't come with one). Openbox is a good choice. it's also an X11 choice instead of Wayland, which you should avoid, at least for another 3 years.

>>105981663
>You can do anything in the terminal, you don't have to do everything in the terminal. Just because a guide sends yo to the terminal it doesn't mean there is an easier way to do it by GUI
doesn't mean there isn't*, you mean
and yea, just because generic instructions are often terminal commands, it's usually just because it's a common denominator. like checking free space with "df -h" is something you can do in all distros, while there is often a gui way to do it, it depends on what DE you have, so in many cases people just give the answer that works on everything

>>105984717
Ignore everything this retard has said. Guys like this equate familiarity with obscure technical knowledge with intelligence. They value the kinds of things that grandma thinks makes them smart. He's good on the computer!

Install a mainstream distro like Mint and make your life easy. All the more low level Linux-y stuff will come naturally over time.

LFS. Learn from the ground up (inside a VM so you don't do silly unrecoverable shit. You actually don't need a distro, but if you really want one I would recommend crux linux.

The only way to learn is to do the difficult things early.

>>105984764
this, i use gentoo now, but don't make something like this or arch your first experience with linux/another os. you're going to have to get the hang of the surface level stuff first (which DE do i like the most, what software is available, how do i find/use basic gui functionality). going beyond that is optional and most people don't care about it, while more people do here being a technology board, it doesn't mean /this/ is what they're interested in

>>105982220
Majaro was nice, but honestly, why not just dive into Arch? The install is ez now.

>>105983418
Arch is ez for beginners now.

>>105981523 (OP)
"I don't need that anyways"
Practice saying that phrase, because you'll use it a lot

>>105984783
>optional

>>105984783
>optional

This is important. Your computer is an awesome tool to do great things with. Not a fucking boat anchor that makes you some kind of genius because you can remember a half dozen typical remedies when it breaks. You don't need to be modifying inodes with a magnetized knitting needle to fit in.

Also, Linux is most importantly an escape hatch from the unhinged malice of Microsoft/Apple/Google. Be free.

>>105981803
You do not want to know how often over the last decade I tried to switch to Linux while using an Nvidia GPU and would just say "oh well" when this shit happened to me.
Nvidia employees deserve to be dragged through the fucking streets.

>>105984964
you haven't upgraded your gpu in the last decade? i started linux with an nvidia gpu, and when it came time to upgrade, i got an amd gpu

>>105981523 (OP)
Cachy obviously

Don't listen to these fags, just get bazzite. It installs and runs with no hassle so you don't need to spend a weekend installing packages and configuring shit. It runs games perfectly with proton and wine pre installed and optimized. It comes with an app to install flatpaks so you don't need to screw around with the retard nigger autism simulator known as the console. If you mostly just game and browse the web, get bazzite and save yourself a headache. If you listen to these other fags then you might as well buy some programmer socks and say goodbye to your wife and kids so you can spend the rest of your golden years learning how to get basic programs to work on whatever jank ass distro programmed by a femboy commune they recommended

>>105981986
kek

I've never seen so much bullshit and false info in a /g/ thread holy shit

>>105985191
Like what?

>>105985096
Bazzite is corporate Fedora shit if you love corporations so much why dont you stays on Winblows you incredible cancerous faggot?

>>105985246
If it's free and open source, then corporate makes no difference. Is it good FOSS? If yes, then what should be my objection to using it without giving Universal Blue a single dollar?

>>105985246
>it's corporate!!!
So, what you're saying is it has developers which are actually paid to do their job and improve the product, instead of random autistic poor people who don't give a fuck about the users?
You do realize Linux itself wouldn't be half as good if corporations weren't heavily investing in it?

>>105981523 (OP)
>A) install rufus and make a linux live usb stick
>B) install virtualbox and run linux in it
That's the bare minimum for checking the system and testing your hw (A) and for trying some advanced shit (if you need to) ahead of time (B). Once you feel confident enough simply install linux on bare metal. That's what i did circa 20 years ago before switching, i never looked back since.

>>105985096
A counterpoint. Bazzite sounds like the name of a demon.

>>105984764
>obscure technical knowledge
>obscure
^ this is one of the retards i was talking about OP ^

>>105983418
>And somebody should eventually graduate from a "beginner" distro to Gentoo, right?
I just wanted to post it
>WE JUST HAVE GOOD OPERATING SYSTEMS NOW THAT ANY NOOB OR VETERAN ALIKE CAN PICK UP AND STICK WITH.
And what distro is it?
>longtime Linux users pretend it doesn't
But it doesn't? I installed Ubuntu some time ago and installer crashed. I installed devuan and had to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add kernel cmdline args to enable fixes for CPU vulnerabilities. I think the advice to use "easy" distro, then arch, then gentoo is still valid and that you are still considered a linux user officially after you used arch for some time.

>>105985675
>And what distro is it?
Pretty much all of them except for Snapbuntu, pure Arch, or Gentoo.

>>105985675
>I installed devuan and had to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add kernel cmdline args to enable fixes for CPU vulnerabilities
Nta but wtf are you even talking about? Devuan is a diy distro but i never needed to alter the sources.list (the fucking installer asks you what repos to enable) and the "CPU vulnerability fix" is just a fucking packet for injecting microcode updates, like just open synaptic and click to "install" the shit, done, no need to edit anything.

>>105981693
>No support for razer and Logitech devices so I'm using my on board memory for the config.
You can use polychromatic to manage Razer devices on Linux. https://polychromatic.app/download/pop_os/

>>105985723
>"CPU vulnerability fix" is just a fucking packet for injecting microcode updates
Hmmm maybe. But maybe it also depends on hw. Once I had to install that packet from testing or unstable because stable one didn't fix all of them.
Could you please post output of "lscpu" just in case? The last section called "vulnerabilities".

>>105986195
>Could you please post output of "lscpu" just in case? The last section called "vulnerabilities".
I can't, i'm currently on windows, i just reported my personal experience with devuan.

>>105986195
>Could you please post output of "lscpu" just in case? The last section called "vulnerabilities".
Nta but picrel is mine, the devuan machine in question doesn't have the *-microcode package installed.

>>105982028
it's a small price to pay for a working computer

>>105982237
>windows server
i use that as my desktop OS
not a single explorer.exe restart. desktop leunuch can't do this uptime and that's a fact.

>>105986524
>smt disabled
that's what I meant with
>add kernel cmdline args

>>105984689
you smell like you use Arch.

>>105987010
with KDE yeah

You'll be a tranny within 12 months

>>105985675
>WE JUST HAVE GOOD OPERATING SYSTEMS NOW THAT ANY NOOB OR VETERAN ALIKE CAN PICK UP AND STICK WITH.
Bazzite and Aurora

>>105981523 (OP)
I tried switching to Linux and it wasn't as good as I imagined. The fonts were noticeably fuzzy & out of focus compared to Windows. As much as Linux people talk about how modular shit is, Desktop Environments are all packaged together in a way that you can't remove much or it breaks everything. When I tried to use Windows programs that I needed, the text was all kinds of fucked. I also couldn't get a game to run, probably because it was portable so no way to install it. I'll stick to my customized Windows 11 IoT Enterprise.

>>105987147
>gaymen distros
pass

>>105987665
>Aurora
>gaymen

>>105981523 (OP)
>What should I know as a windows faggot about running linux?
there is 100% going to be a program you want to run that wont work on linux and its up to you to decide if you want to learn a alternative that does or keep a dual boot to retain access to it
[spoiler]i dont like reaper and FLstudio is broken on linux so i have a second PC running W11 for the express purpose of using it[/spoiler]

>>105981523 (OP)
here's the only advice you need: ask GPT for help. he's really good with linux.
furthermore, give tiling WMs a try, they're quite comfy.

OP. Start using linux now. Getting used to stuff and setting it up over time is better than doing it abruptly. Fonts look a bit different and can be offputting at first, took me around a month to stop noticing.

>>105986721
You can do that uptime, but why would you? When updating Linux, you do typically need to restart.

>>105989027
no you literally can't without something x/wayland related shitting its pants and usually hanging the system

>>105989045
Yeah nah. I've never seen anything hang on Linux that isn't a windows application. If I decided not to update my arch I could just keep the computer running 24/7 for months and years. If anything restarting it is the scary part.

>>105989086
>If I decided not to update my arch I could just keep the computer running 24/7 for months and years
not in my extensive experience. prove it. protip you can't because for one, X has a hardcoded limit on handles
>If anything restarting it is the scary part.
literally held hostage, desktop linux users beyond are pathetic. everything is a clusterfuck

>>105989128
I use gayland, faggot. By the way, a windows video game completely crashed that one time with old Nvidia driver which was really shit and nothing happened. It just restarted itself.

>>105989185
no gayland implementation is stable
if your system wasn't so neurotic and gay you would have no reason to restart so often. and even if you didn't it would all begin collapse around the 1-2 month mark at best /trvke

>>105989207
I don't restart it "often", I restart it whenever I update KDE or the kernel. I'm almost tempted to go months without update after you said that because current version of the kernel and KDE are both really good.

>>105989239
>implying you've noticed improvements from a lesser state while my uptime clock has been ticking
the kernel is in a worse place than ever and i highly doubt krashde plasma has stopped being a complete piece of shit
admittedly it was years ago i used desktop linux in a serious fashion. still it's beyond nuts how you have faith in fucking kde to be stable.

but sure, let's go. where do we keep ourselves updated on how it's going? i'm going to keep this fucker going for at least 200 days just for the sake of it.
but remember, uptime only matters as long as the head is on. i'm sure both linux and windows can have an infinite uptime when headless. so, if plasma shell krashes you're out. if explorer.exe crashes, i'm out. i trust you to be honest.

>>105989443
Yeah sure, you can keep seething about things you've never used all you want, it's not my business how you spend your time.
I didn't expect you've never used windows though - explorer crashing doesn't compromise the os in any way. You can just manually restart it if it doesn't restart automatically. The uptime keeps ticking. The shell is a non critical component. Hell you can manually close it. If you ever have access to a pc with windows, give it a try. Don't even need admin.

Maybe try using the software you talk about, it'll make you a more interesting person to talk to over some seething retard who knows nothing about anything.

>>105981986
>Does your breath smell like cow shit?
>yes
>Windows 11

>>105981523 (OP)
In my humble opinion you should do like what /fglt/ people say:
>test on a VM (I do it via distrosea, but you can always install Qemu)
>check your PC specs, as some distros can be quite demanding
>download the live cd and test on PC for a couple of hours (I did so in order to install Zorin, since it's beginner-friendly and has humble spec requirements, but I ended up not doing so due to OOM freezes, so AVOID ANY UBUNTU-BASED DISTROS LIKE THE PLAGUE)

>>105989558
>so used to his shell krashing he copes and thinks it's normal and fine to krash
it's not acceptable. you're a cuck and held hostage. restarting explorer.exe would fuck up and rearrange my taskbar and windows.
>The uptime keeps ticking
which is exactly why i said uptime is only impressive and matters as long as there hasn't been any shell crashes. and that's me being generous. plenty of other things will krash in plsma on a regular basis, while everything is like day 1 for me
>>105986721
>not a single explorer.exe restart

>>105986721
I've seen unix boxes with uptimes in years you stupid faggot. there is no way in hell you don't have critical patches that would normally force you to reboot.

>>105989752
try reading the thread

>>105989773
try reading what?

>>105989803
you missed important context:
desktop linux specifically (assumed active use), not a forgotten (possibly headless) unix box
windows server (LTSC) specifically, not consumer windows that shoves updates in your throat

>>105989705
I used windows for 30 years, so yes I am used to the shell (explorer) crashing or having to manually restart it. Specially since I used to have video thumbnails enabled on windows a long time ago. I learned not to later on.
Also, there is nothing impressive about uptime in general, it just shows that your hardware is stable. The only time I was ever forced to restart a computer by anything was on windows 10 with a CPU that became brain dead in about 30 to 60 days. Not counting windows updates, because those don't exactly give you a lot of choice either.

>>105989844
huh? my desktop linux is stable thougheverbeit. same with my server.

>>105989844
Why the fuck are you comparing desktop Linux to server windows? You retarded or something?

>>105989861
>I used windows for 30 years, so yes I am used to the shell (explorer) crashing or having to manually restart it.
yes, but the entire premise is that server/ltsc editions of windows are far more stable than consumer editions of windows, and my claim is that it even is superior to the sorry state of desktop linux in stability
>CPU that became brain dead in about 30 to 60 days
which CPU?
>>105989904
what's your uptime record?
>>105989911
read the fucking thread >>105986721
>i use that as my desktop OS

ya, I just checked coredumpctl
all my coredumps are spotify and some kde shitware, which is why I stopped using KDE, kek.

>>105989972
>what's your uptime record?
I don't fucking know. I never bothered to actually check. I pretty much reboot everything every week just to boot into the newest kernel.

>>105989991
>all my coredumps are spotify and some kde shitware, which is why I stopped using KDE, kek.
no shit. the shrinking pool of kde evangelists are becoming increasingly delusional. accepting krashes as normalcy.
>I pretty much reboot everything every week just to boot into the newest kernel.
meaningless. even windows 11 home dogshit is stable on a 1 week uptime.

a lot of lintard cope ITT

>>105989972
I used server windows too, it's worse than consumer windows because of version whitelists. Really annoying to deal with if you encounter it. Issues are broadly the same. Thumbnails for videos are no more stable on server os.

The CPU was an engineering sample of a 12 core broadwell-ex Xeon.

>>105990053
>Really annoying to deal with if you encounter it.
i really only did for my gpu driver and it was a fairly trivial workaround. i do all kinds of stuff with my machine but mostly use open source stuff. but steam and all my games and their anticheats don't have any issues either

>>105989086
If scared, just automate timeshift or do manual backups of your kernel (rsync, which timeshift uses) before an update/restart desu

>>105981803
Thank god this has been fucking me over for months on tumblweed

>>105990053
>because of version whitelists
I memberberries trying to run Windows Server 2012 (Edu license from university MSDN) as a desktop OS for lel's and I ran into this a lot. the amount of licensing judaism around windows editions is hilarious. my VM is Windows 11 Enterprise for a reason. You can still run it headlessly if you want to practice headless winshit + run crap like IIS and what not. only real shit deal is figuring out how to get all the Windows Server snap-ins and powershell modules installed so you can 1-for-1 replicate the experience.

>>105990028
>>I pretty much reboot everything every week just to boot into the newest kernel.
>meaningless. even windows 11 home dogshit is stable on a 1 week uptime.
ok sure? but I want the latest kernel releases because usually the kernel gets better every point release. sometimes it gets worse so it's good to be ahead of it, find the issue and report it upstream as well. I mostly use my personal stuff as a test bed so I know what to expect in the future of corporate shitware.

I remember some wage cuck telling me about their AWS EKS experience recently with random OOM killer shit and told them it was probably Amazon Linux 2 shipping systemd-oomd in their systems and how, on release, it aggressively killed high IO pressure apps for no good reason. It was later confirmed to be the case. I knew about this because I'm on the edge of Linux and was ready.

I don't care about uptime or any of that gay shit, I just want shit to work and have a very rapid path forward to better shit in the future. keep your half a year uptime faggot.

>>105990132
I have timeshift enabled in btrfs mode, it's just that I use NTFS drives and those never get issues unless there's a restart.
Linux specific issues are trivial to fix since I actually know how it works and how to gather information.

>>105990178
For me it was in windows 2003. Decent OS.
I think the worst issue I have with windows is how everything breaks when your user account isn't admin, though. Windows software is absolute dog shit written by cretins. Why does a game need admin password to run?

>>105990219
absolutely fair and thanks for the fun story but i personally value sitting at my puter and it being exactly how i left it the day before just how i like it. i have a lot of things going on and don't like wasting too much time.

>>105990280
Not that dude, but my guy, when you restart Linux you do it after you returned to it being the same as it was yesterday where you left it off. It's not automatic while you're not looking. Also at least in KDE and I doubt it's unique to kde, when you restart all the shit you had open last session is right there open for you also. A restart takes like a minute on a bad day.

>>105990344
>last session is right there
It's in X11. UNIX does this for ages already

>>105981986
Windows USED to be the working choice but its updates are so slow they're basically non-functional.
Yeah you don't have to do them every time, yeah they run in the background but on a new N97 4 core laptop that has 0 issues running W11 when its not doing windows defender scans and updates it becomes a real problem when your system suddenly becomes way less usable because MS NEEDS to scan your whole fucking OS and start downloading + installing updates.

I turned them all off with WAT on that machine and its stunning how much more performant and low on RAM usage windows becomes.
>goes from 5-6GB idle to 3GB idle
>CPU usage stays low and doesn't randomly spike
>disk usage doesn't get locked to 100% for ages at a time
Absolutely stunning how bad windows is for this honestly, MS need to lock out the downloading and installing of updates until the user actually says they're ok with it and actually listen.

>>105981523 (OP)
There are hypervisors which let you run virtual machines with whatever linux on your win10. Vmware, virtualbox are ones I've used. Vmware is commercial, but just works and tends to be better at gpu things. Virtualbox also works. For better perfomance enable vt-x/vt-d.
You can (and should to unbrick yourself when you fuck up) also buy a flash stick, burn an iso with livecd support via rufus, change boot order in bios or efi to try boot from a usb drive first, get welcomed by grub.

Now.
>disable secure boot
>be precise with disk partitioning and partition formatting, one mistake can mean bye bye to your windows
>it's very ez to get fucked by a bootloader thanks to a typo, use that livecd stick to fix your bootloader config
>bad fstab == no bootable linux 99% of the times
>it's infinitely better to learn the system with a functional gui, but you should not avoid the tty. tty is your friend. btw wheel click pastes from clipboard and selecting shit within xterm copies it
>dont hurry, be methodical, dont overload yourself, take breaks
>read archwiki's articles about installing and setting the system up. even if you're not on arch (then rtfm the commands, dont be a c-c c-v monkey)
>check out your hardware, see if it has the drivers or needs to be worked on. lshw, lspci. if there are no drivers for your network card, u are fucked (it can be fixed, but it's not a trivial task for a noob)
>for typical wired just do ip link, then dhcpcd {whatever-name-which-isnt-a-lo}. for wifi, install wpa_supplicant. use wpa_cli to make a config for your network at whatever/loc/wifi.conf, then run wpa_supplicant -B -i {wireless-interface-name-given-by-ip-link} -c /whatever/loc/wifi.conf, then dhcpcd {wireless-interface}. should get you the internet. anything more complicated than that should burn in hell
>dont overthink about muh text editor. nano does the job.
>fucken google it. ubuntu forums have way too many answers to stoopid noob questions.

>>105990344
there's a lot of stuff open in memory that wouldn't be recovered by restoring the session

>>105981523 (OP)
>what should I know as a windows fag
That """"""""""""""loosing support""""""""""" does not magicly mean hacker man is going to break in to your PC.
You can keep using Windows 10 for years without issue, literally just don't worry about it.
I say this as a linux user even.

>>105981523 (OP)
Was literally gonna say use Bazzite and use KDE and you'll have a fucking good time. But you've got that covered already. CachyOS is a good choice as well.

I think you've looked into this and will be just fine.

Don't run games from an NTFS drive.

>>105991335
>Don't run games from an NTFS drive.
Don't know why Steam still does not allow games on NTFS drives when the NTFS driver since kernel 5.15 fully supports all the features that Steam would need (namely soft symlinks).
Gone are the days of the dog shit NTFS-G3 driver.

why is every fucker suddenly aware of Bazzite but not well-established distros like Ubungo or Arch or Debian?
wtf is bazzite

>>105991723
Does it not? If I try to add my NTFS drive to steam it's an option, but I've never tried installing games on it.

>>105991793
it creates mustard gas

>>105991793
Huh
Just tried and it did let me install to a NTFS drive just now.
Wonder when they changed that since it still blocked it just but a year ago.
But either way, its nice they're finally letting you do it since the current NTFS driver for linux is substantially more stable then the old one.

>>105991731
Fedora Kinoite for Gamers

>>105991731
Because Fedora is Ubuntu/Debian but good, and Bazzite is to Fedora what Ubonga is to Debian.
Zoomers can't use Arch.

>>105991723
>Steam still does not allow games on NTFS drives
Jesus fucking Christ Anon, why do Windows users know more about Linux than actual Linux users? EVERYONE knows you can just plug in your existing NTFS drive with games on it and get back to playing.

>>105992242
To be fair to him, NTFS on Linux is pretty sub optimal so few people use it. I literally need a windows livecd as part of my maintenance tools lmao.

>>105991731
bazzite is shilled to gamers by youtube ecelebs as a steamos alternative

>>105981523 (OP)
>What should I know as a windows faggot about running linux?
Honestly you can figure out basically anything as you go.
My three bits of advice are:
- read what the terminal puts out. The majority of bad decisions when working with the terminal happen because lazy fuckers copy commands from some website or LLM and don't read what the terminal responds with.
- if you have multiple hard drives/ssds, consider mounting one drive as your home directory, so all your data remains pretty much unaffected if you do something bad to your system.
- consider Timeshift to make backups of your OS.

>>105981523 (OP)
If you haven't been dual booting for the past year or so to learn just how different it is, I guarantee you'll go back to Windows and come back here to bitch about how Linux sucks.

>>105991723
It does allow it. I said don't do it though.

You'll end up one of these retards on linux_gaming subreddit posting a wall of text, having weird issues with <some popular game> that noone else has.

It's something to do with the NTFS permission system vs native Linux filesystems. You can read the drive just fine, games might work but you're asking for weird unsolvable issues that noone else has.

>>105991731
>Umbongo
Snaps suck, fuck anyone still using this crap distro.

>Arch
Great distro but Bazzite is easier. No "manual intervention" on updates.

>Debian
Great distro but too outdated, depends on the games you play.

>>105995713
>Snaps suck, fuck anyone still using this crap distro.

They do, but Canonical fixed them so that they're not actively malicious any more. You can actually stop them from updating, individually now. Full control. So that reduces them to just being a kind of crappy alternative to flatpak.

>>105995725
They're still 100% tied to cannonicals store, they're still a lock in mechanism.

>>105995737
Yes, but they snap code itself is open source. The backend spec is public too. It's just the store backend that's closed. Not very Linux-y, but not the worst thing in the world. I don't hold it against them, but mainly because the Linux world needs some actual muscular companies to held ward off bullshit from Microsoft.

Really they should just go with flatpaks and some kind of simple updating layer on top of it. It would solve the same issue.

>>105995788
flatpak has update mechanisms, we can just roll with flatpak update literally.

no reason to have or use snap, use flatpak & flathub, for autistic edge cases use fucking appimage otherwise kill yourself

>>105995919
Nta but i do think that having a single repo (flathub) to be fucking retarded, that's my main reason for not liking flatpaks, snaps just happen to be even worse than that.

>>105995990
Fedora apparently has problems with getting people to use their ghetto flatpak server. Authors don't put in much effort to support it. Seems like a big central place is better at least for now.

>>105981523 (OP)
Install CachyOS and enjoy life.

>>105996168
There should be at least mirrors, all that centralization just begs to be fucked. The main reasons all the most widespread trojans on linux were loaded on kde/gnomelook.org was exactly because was a single entry point of failure.

>>105984000
>>105981809

thank you for those
I'm going to switch this weekend

>all the talk about font rendering
it's funny. looking at winshit screenshots/screencaps, the fonts look like 90's era shit to me.
conversely, i get asked about how i got fonts to look good in posts where i share terminal screenshots.
i've been using this since forever
Xft.dpi: 192 # for 4K monitors
Xft.antialias: true
Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault
Xft.rgba: rgb
Xft.hinting: true
Xft.hintstyle: hintslight

since i don't use a DE, this is loaded via
# in ~/.xinitrc
xrdb $HOME/.Xdefaults

i wonder what the general impression would be if these settings were the default, especially "hintslight".

>>105981523 (OP)
>hates Blacks
>hates watermelons/Palestinians
>wants a race war

The OP is a Jew.

>>105991731
Because it's the only usable Linux distribution.

>Ubuntu
Outdated as fuck and unstable when upgrading it.
Snapd is literally forcing app updates in background without ever asking you about it. People don't want to deal with the same issues they're facing on Windows 10/11.
>Mint, Debian
Outdated as fuck.
>Arch
Unstable when doing any sort of update.
>Manjaro
Buggy. And can be as unstable as Ubuntu when performing major upgrades.

>>105997026
>>105996713
>>105995990
>>105993931
>>105991826
>reddit format
>says nta
>is a retarded newfag

every time

>>105998120
>Multireply nigger
>has the hubris to call others retard

>OY VEY STOP NOTICING MY RETARDED POSTS
>N-NO, Y-YOU ARE THE RETARD

i hope you're in tel aviv when iran tests a nuke

>>105998187
Something wrong faggot? Have you exhausted your reply quota or just prefer acting like a passive aggressive bitch from now on?

>>105981693
Isn't Firewall entirely redundant because your ISP CGNAT connection blocks all incoming traffic by default anyway?

>>105998112
>>105998112
>Unstable when doing any sort of update.
>>105995713
>No "manual intervention" on upd

wrong

>>106000179
>No "manual intervention" on upd
Works on my machines.

>>106000179
Okay so what manual intervention have you had to do on Bazzite?

>>106000381
I didn't know about bazzite until about 2 months ago when fucktards here started spamming it. Why would I care about installing it?
I'm here advocating for how good Arch is and how the unstable meme is just a meme.
Just don't use the fucking AUR. Most of the time you will never need it.

>>106000418
So Arch never actually requires manual intervention?

>>106000428
Correct, at least for me. I don't use/need the AUR. The times I thought I needed it I didn't and I found something better in the official repo.

>>106000437
Aren't Arch users forced to use a news website to see if updating their OS is safe? Not to mention they have to know about the existence of this website.
That's what I've been told.

>>106000418
>I didn't know about bazzite until about 2 months ago
So why are you spouting lies like this
>No "manual intervention" on upd

You're literally pretending to know what you're talking about and hoping nobody will call you out on your bullshit.

>>106000476
no lol.
they do sometimes report the occasional weirdness in their installer/repos but there's always a simple enough workaround. like recently there was some bullshit about how linux-firmware was arranged. the solution was just to uninstall it and then reinstall it. not that bad.
>>106000492
Are you fucking dumb
I was quoting the other anon
There is no manual intervention on Arch in the way retards here suggest i.e. as a daily thing.
It's like a once in a month thing if that.

>>106000502
>It's like a once in a month thing if that.
you have zero self respect if that's acceptable to you
get a job, no, a life

>>106000502
>I was quoting the other anon
>Arch
>Great distro but Bazzite is easier. No "manual intervention" on updates.
Learn English. This sentence means:
>There is no "manual intervention" on updates on Bazzite.

Also:
>the solution was just to uninstall it and then reinstall it.
Your OS should do this automatically.
>It's like a once in a month thing if that.
This is not acceptable or considered a usable OS, you fucking idiot.

>>106000502
i have no time for this BS LMAO

>>106000530
my point was there is no real need for manual intervention on arch you fucking nigger. can you read.

>>106000568
You didn't have point. You just said "wrong" to
>There is no "manual intervention" on updates on Bazzite.

>>106000591
no I didn't you low IQ low reading comprehension
nigger, you're backpedalling now because it's obvious I was just pushing back against the dumb idea of arch needing manual intervention, I already said i'm not interested in bazzite and haven't used it so why would i know about it

>>106000691
>I already said i'm not interested in bazzite and haven't used it so why would i know about it
So why did you say
>There is no "manual intervention" on updates on Bazzite. - WRONG

>>106000743
i think you're a jeet or some other esl, you're unable to parse meaning even when it's pointed out to you. stick to the duolingo or something.

>>106000784
>can't properly quote a post
>can't write a complete sentence explaining anything, just says "wrong" to a quoted truthful sentence
>doesn't understand what context is
Who are you calling a jeet, you jeet?

>>106000840
do you not see how you're not refuting my point? you're really just very dumb

>>106000862
Do you not understand what "wrong" means? You've quoted a post saying
>There is no "manual intervention" on updates on Bazzite.
And to that sentence/context you've said "wrong". There is no mention of Arch here. Only when you got called out on this did you actually say "No I wasn't talking about Bazzite because I know nothing about it".
Get checked for autism.

>>106000908
you're using that many words because you know you fucked up and you're backpedaling

>>105981523 (OP)
>What should I know as a windows faggot about running linux?
That every time some trivial shit doesn't work, you have to google for hours until you find some post from 2017 where a guy in Moldova had a similar problem on a version 10 times prior to yours, and the "solution" is invariably to muck around in the command line. Most of the time you'll just say "fuck it" and live with it. Also "wipe and do a clean reinstall" is unironically seen as a solution sometimes.

Fight me fuckers, you know it's true.

quick i am going to dualboot a distro recommend a good one
i know some linux (i use debian to run multiple game servers)

>>105981523 (OP)
keep as far as possible from enthusiast distros.
install something like fedora or ubuntu and do not listen to retards.

>>106001026
>waah waah

>>106001439
Bazzite

I switched to Linux
why is there no middle mouse button scrolling

>>105981693
there's something called piper for logitech devices if you want rgb animations and custom dpi settings back

>>105987579
i actually had a way better font experience than with windows. i'm using an OLED with unique subpixel layout and windows text looks like dogshit on it, but on linux there was support for my display type in the subpixel font rendering options.

for portable software you should probably just run it with proton.

also i don't know a single desktop environment that doesn't let you barebones it. kde and gnome both work great with none of the other apps.

>>105987741
I use FL Studio through Bottles and it works flawlessly, even the MIDI stuff. I'm on KDE/Wayland/Pipewire tho, maybe it's worse on X11/PulseAudio idk

>>105981523 (OP)
DON'T fall for ubuntu-based distros, they're fat and blaoted and make it harder to understand what's going on because they want to be "simple" but just hide away complexity
DON'T fall for debian on desktop, packages too old, newer kernel results in faster performance almost every time
DON'T use a gamer fork, they get abandoned fast (except like bazzite/cachyos which i hear are doing well)
DON'T use grub, use that tiny systemd bootloader (redhat bums did pretty good on this one)
DON'T use X11 ever, wayland complainers on this board all have nvidia gpus with the worst drivers known to man
DON'T use basic wine to run windows apps, use Bottles or Steam Play

>>106002585
you can enable in firefox about:config settings to get this back, i missed it too before i realized it was an option

>>106003342
"general.autoScroll" is the setting name

>>106002585
Which distro and DE? you can change the mouse settings in plasma settings

>>105998304
You shouldn't trust that to be properly configured. Plus, it helps with local network and public WiFi too.

>>105982962
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Debian- or Ubuntu-based distros.

>>106002585
Because Mozilla disables it by default on their Linux build. I think they do this because middle click is used for pasting copied text.
Settings > Browsing > Use autoscrolling

>>106002585
you don't need that
middle mouse is for pasting.

>>106001351
>dual boot windows 10 with linux
>boot linux mint from usb to install to other usb
>disconnect hard drive to avoid any fuckery with the bootloader
>mint installs to other usb fine
>reboot
>only windows 10 comes up; grub is gone
>ok, i'll boot the USB again and run Boot Fixer
> run it, click on "Fix common problems"
>it asks me to copy and paste commands into the terminal
>fine, whatever
>it finishes and I reboot
>same issue
>i go back into the USB stick and run Boot Fixer again
>Copy and paste these commands into the terminal
>it's just a single string that says :label9
>nothing else works
>sigh, give up, and reinstall Linux Mint and it works fine now

>>106003334
>dont use debian based distro
so what am i supposed to use

>>105983207
>one error and your pc doesn’t boot
Skill issue. You can test your mounts (like you should) before rebooting, you can add nofail to your entry (like you should) to allow booting if the mount fails for whatever reason.
>What’s the benefit of having it mounted with fstab
If you don't have gnome disks installed, you have to relearn how to mount your drives in whatever GUI program is available (if any), while fstab is the same for every install.

>>106007144
JUST DON'T OKAY

>>105981523 (OP)
Funny image I will save
>>105981663
open terminal
>break my shit
no can do
>sudo break my shit
Go right ahead sir
Love Linux for this shit

>>105981523 (OP)
I feel like I should be using Linux but as a gamescuck I have no real reason to switch. My computer is a game box first and foremost with a secondary duty of holding pirated movies. I'm just so fucking tired of this resource hog OS taking random shits while doing basic things. 2025 and Windows explorer will still crash randomly.

>>106007144
Anything but Debian and Slackware derivatives; More specifically, use Artix or Gentoo if you want to customize your OS, or use OpenMandriva (has systemd) or PCLinuxOS.

>>106003334
>DON'T use X11 ever
Show me MouseInjector working on Wayland.

how do i run rpgmaker games on lutris?
add locally installed game does't work

>>106009004
>on lutris
Use this instead: https://easyrpg.org/

>>106009042
That only works with RPG Maker 2003, yielding no luck for modern RPG Maker games like the Coffin of Andy and Leyley. Luckily those work through Proton.

>>106009081
how?
it works fine when added to steam and using proton there, but on lutris it doesn't