End of FireFox - /g/ (#105988266) [Archived: 30 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:54:03 PM No.105988266
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The DOJ v. Google case — which found that Google has been violating antitrust laws related to its monopoly position in the Search Engine market — is weeks away from ending the remedy phase. Judge Mehta is expected to issue his final decision some time in August (next month).

Significantly for Mozilla, one of the most heavily pushed (by the DOJ) remedies would block Google from paying Mozilla for default search engine placement within Firefox.

This would, effectively, end over 80% of Mozilla’s yearly revenue… and force the company to dramatically downsize.

During the court trial earlier this year, the Mozilla CFO testified that, should this happen, Mozilla “may be forced to scale back operations”.

At the same time as the DOJ v. Google case is moving quickly towards a conclusion, the US government has pulled Mozilla funding — resulting in renewed, desperate pleas from Mozilla, asking for donations to attempt to cover the lost tax payer revenue.

Mozilla appears to have a four pronged approach to securing funding and staying in business:

1) Fight the DOJ v. Google case (both in court and public opinion).

2) Rebrand (and re-focus) on political activism in the hopes of securing new funding sources. (They are now a “global crew of activists” focused on Marxist causes.)

3) Monetize data collected from Firefox users. (See: Firefox recently changing their Terms of Use to allow Mozilla to collect user data.)

4) Encouraging users to donate.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:59:12 PM No.105988303
>>105988266 (OP)
>em dashes
>smart quotes

Fuck off you stupid gptnigger
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:00:05 PM No.105988311
Thanks, ChatGPT! I'll keep using Brave, now.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:02:12 PM No.105988331
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>>105988266 (OP)
Hopefully they lose funding and a better, non-pozzed (unlikely) group becomes the new maintainer. Maybe everything bad will leave Mozilla together with the CEO (that pockets most of the money anyway), but that's unlikely as well.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:19:10 PM No.105988426
>>105988266 (OP)
>Significantly for Mozilla, one of the most heavily pushed (by the DOJ) remedies would block Google from paying Mozilla for default search engine placement within Firefox.
I didnt even know that was a thing.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:25:53 PM No.105988478
OK, bye Firefox, kys Mozilla
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:33:56 PM No.105988538
>>105988266 (OP)
>MARXISTMARXISTMARXIST
ok poltard back to your containment board
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:46:15 PM No.105988663
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>>105988538
Your ideology is so fragile, one destroys it merely by uttering its name.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:48:49 PM No.105988690
>>105988266 (OP)
Mozilla disappearing would give me hope for the future of technology. It will not happen.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:52:29 PM No.105988722
>>105988266 (OP)
am I fighting one of them or fucking one of them?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:54:39 PM No.105988735
>>105988303
Doesn't feel like ChatGPT, and I for one appreciate em dashes and typographical quotes.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:55:28 PM No.105988741
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>>105988266 (OP)
right then left
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:56:05 PM No.105988744
>>105988663
You don’t even know what it means, just uttering buzzwords based on vibes.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:17:06 PM No.105988940
>>105988744
>based on vibes
That would be the marxists.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:32:29 PM No.105989077
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>>105988940
more like low IQ chuddies who think 'woke corpos' are somehow marxists
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:40:11 PM No.105989152
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>>105989077
He's probably not as retarded as he's acting. He has money through this kiked system somehow.

But yeah, "MARXIST!!!!!!" "COMMUNIST!!!!!" has got to be the telltale sign of a retard. It's not an argument, and they somehow think the average worker cares about the welfare of their CEO
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:42:01 PM No.105989176
>>105988426
welcome to tech space
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:03:52 PM No.105989375
>>105988426
Has your head been buried deep within the soil for the last 25 years?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:50:32 PM No.105991329
>>105988331
this. Maybe Mozilla wouldn't need to be so dependent on Google bux if they had actually invested that money into promoting and developing their browser.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:57:11 PM No.105991950
>>105991329
This here; its not like these anti-trust actions against Google are a legal surprise, this case was started like 5 years ago, IRRC. Mozilla has had years to work on some sort of backup plan to get revenue that was not dependent on Google but as far as I can tell their leadership has been down right negligent in doing so.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:02:26 PM No.105992000
>>105991329
>>105991950
Mozilla the nonprofit organization and Mozilla the web browser developer are not the same company. The nonprofit is legally not allowed to use funds to improve their browser. They are only allowed to masterbate over sissy porn lifestyles publicly and promote it.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:02:37 PM No.105992002
>>105989077
Please don't post industry plants adjacent to the mexican retard that he calls master. All of it is for show and another scam by those faggots
>>105988331
Mozilla is fucked, the foundation is a parasite arm of google at this point. I don't know why package maintainers stop putting firefox front and center at this point.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:03:01 PM No.105992008
>>105991950
Not just that. Look at
>>105988266 (OP)
> Rebrand (and re-focus) on political activism in the hopes of securing new funding sources. (They are now a “global crew of activists” focused on Marxist causes.)
The political winds of late show that this is the exact opposite of what you’d want to do to get MORE funding. Be the browser equivalent of the FSF, that would be much better long term
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:05:00 PM No.105992035
My problem is brave is not a secure browser and if Firefox with configuration dies it’s over
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:06:11 PM No.105992051
>>105989077
>>105989152
It’s so funny how fragile your brainwashing is.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:07:52 PM No.105992068
>>105988303
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE EM DASHES
Common core, everyone.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:10:01 PM No.105992093
>>105992068
I started using em dashes just because they trigger people so hard.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:12:56 PM No.105992115
>>105992000
>Mozilla the nonprofit organization and Mozilla the web browser developer are not the same company.
there is no effective difference between these two:
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:15:59 PM No.105992153
>They are now a “global crew of activists” focused on Marxist causes.
I wish that were true, it'd be a lesser evil. Instead we have cynical girl boss cash grabbing. American libs love capitalism more than anyone else.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:20:37 PM No.105992195
>>105988266 (OP)
gorilla violently rips you apart alive. she gives you a coom and (possibly) a std. that's not even a real choice. trash meme.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:21:56 PM No.105992212
>>105992093
You should stop breathing, that would trigger me so hard.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:53:34 PM No.105992593
>>105988426
It's like the only thing to know about Firefox.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:00:24 AM No.105993221
>>105988266 (OP)
Gorilla desu, I’d rather die than be gay
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:25:58 AM No.105993421
>>105993221
Is it if you get the option to use a different hole?
Like I think it's fine if you get to either ass blast or zuck zuck
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:14:51 AM No.105994702
>>105989077
Dilate etc
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:13:59 AM No.105995423
>>105988266 (OP)
Good riddance
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:43:43 AM No.105997216
>>105992212
ur so smart, master manipulator
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:49:04 AM No.105997242
Firefox has kind of ended itself by not fixing bugs and being "activists" instead of focusing on web tech like the old "take back the web" days.

If Firefox introduced innovative web features again it might have more market share. Firefox easily took on Internet Explorer and Safari back in the day, but it got too used to Google's "easy money" and got fat and lazy. A last hurrah would be to just switch to Chromium like everyone else and just maintain manifest v2, but Gecko is really a lost cause now with just 2.5% market share and only 0.5% on mobile. Cloudflare employees must be sick of having to accommodate its quirks.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:57:06 PM No.105997568
i would fucking RAPE that gorilla in the ass
it might have better strength but probably not by much, and i have trained boxing/bjj for over 10 years now + weightlifting 4 times a week
this dumb ape wouldn't even know what hit it with a quick 1-2 followed by a hook to the chin, and a quick choke when its brain is rattled
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:43:42 PM No.105997863
>>105988266 (OP)
should have simply not politicized their company, I will just switch to ladybird or an old open source fork so i don't care, fuck mozilla.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:50:31 PM No.105997893
>>105997568
This is an 18+ site, not a roblox server.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:52:08 PM No.105997909
>>105988266 (OP)
90% of Mozilla revenue goes towards funding DEI death cult
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:53:22 PM No.105997922
>>105992093
this is like drooling on yourself and shitting your pants to trigger people because they think youre retarded.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:58:46 PM No.105997960
>>105988303
>>105988311
This reads more like it was copied from a news article rather than formulated by GPT.
>>105988735
>>105992068
nigger, there isn't a single human being who is going to go through an alt code to type an em dash when the minus sign is right fucking there
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:03:54 PM No.105998015
>>105988266 (OP)
Librewolf did work, works and will work in the future. Has uBlock Origin as default and has reproducible binaries so Librewolf is open source unlike proprietary Brave that doesn't have reproducible binaries.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:04:07 PM No.105998018
>>105997242
Oh no, not the poor Cloudflare employees :((((
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:04:10 PM No.105998019
OpenAI, Meta, even Microsoft could pick up that tap
I don't understand why it's always Google that has to pay for fundamental infrastructure of the web.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:04:29 PM No.105998021
>>105997893
i'm on the monkey chow motherfucker
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:34:22 PM No.105998269
>>105988266 (OP)
>This would, effectively, end over 80% of Mozilla’s yearly revenue
Good. Maybe this will teach them to not waste money on tranny nigger propaganda and not give their executives 6 gorrilion payrises per year.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:35:46 PM No.105998292
>>105988266 (OP)
>Judge Mehta
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:37:06 PM No.105998299
>>105992093
based......I should do this too. the replies you got are pottery.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:39:37 PM No.105998323
in all honesty, this is a huge problem and the US Jewdiciary continues to fuck over normal people in favor of corporations and wealthy people.
congratz retards. who's going to fund the only real alternative browser who also suspiciously has a working adblock?
>b-but muh webkit
it's pretty pathetic when firefox is more up to date and spec compliant than the next multi-trillion dollar corp back browser.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:40:55 PM No.105998334
>>105998269
>g-good
you won't be saying that for long when Google decides to close-source Chrome, leaving M$ Edge fucked and locking you into lol-no-adblocking
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:01:13 PM No.105998487
>>105998334
Google might not be owning Chrome anymore as a result of these anti-trust actions; in addition to stopping Google from paying to be the default search the DoJ is pushing to force Google to sell off Chrome.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:07:21 PM No.105998546
>>105998487
At this point "owning" chrome is secondary to being able to control web delivery standards.
Google might not own chrome but chrome will still be up to date on all the cutting edge shit that google implements in its websites and services, keeping it the defacto standard browser. It just also so happens that chrome will permit whatever data collection methods google will require secondary to delivering the user's service. Because those are "part of the web spec" now
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:12:56 PM No.105998591
>>105988266 (OP)
google has done nothing wrong. this is bs.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:17:59 PM No.105998631
What is the foundation required for btw?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:19:01 PM No.105998641
>>105992068
Common core is a superior education approach and it has a non-retarded, universal curriculum attached to it.
Because apes like you started to complain about it due to grifters they just renamed it in some states and use the same curriculum and concepts as before.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:20:02 PM No.105998649
>>105997922
is that an analogy from your day to day life?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:15:43 PM No.105999064
>>105998015
How will wolf work if FireFox folds when it cant pay its bills
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:07:52 PM No.105999491
>>105999064
>How will wolf work if FireFox folds when it cant pay its bills
Like nothing would have happened because it is open source project. Browsers like Brave would die immediately because they are proprietary and have to fight against what Google does every day. Also Brave is for profit corporation while Librewolf doesn't need anything to exists. That is why Librewolf protects our privacy while Brave sells user data illegally, manipulated referral links and stole money from users. Brave is proprietary spyware without reproducible binaries from untrusted for profit corporation that uses cuckslaves to make money.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:38:32 PM No.105999750
>>105998015
>>105999491
>le heckin user.js wannabe fork librewoke
gr8 b8 m8
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:42:16 PM No.105999786
>>105988266 (OP)
I prefer to be last in line with Bonnie Blue and only ask for a handjob for better rates of survival.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:52:08 PM No.105999882
>>105988266 (OP)
donations solve this.
and even if mozilla went bankrupt, firefox forks would still exist.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:52:17 PM No.105999884
>>105997909
The other 10% goes to the ceo and managers
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:57:55 PM No.105999927
>>105999786
Can’t help but feel like these Bonnie blue scenes are actually really like that one archer episode where Lana claims to have sex with the whole office.

> Cyril comes clean with Lana about his various infidelities (with the exception of one) and she kicks him out of his own office so that she can "bang every last dude in the building" on his desk. Pam is first in line, and disappointed to discover that Lana is not in fact planning on having sex with every man at ISIS. Instead, Lana is charging each man (and Pam) $600 for the privilege to tell everyone that they had sex with her, as long as the first person they tell is Cyril. This has the ultimate effect of driving Cyril to the edge and earning Lana twenty thousand dollars.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:17:39 PM No.106000106
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>>105988266 (OP)
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:21:16 PM No.106000139
>>105998015
>>105999491
Librewolf devs already stated on codeberg that they are utterly reliant on Mozilla updating FF upstream, and they will not maintain the project entirely of their own accord if Mozilla bites the dust, as its WAY too much work.

If mozilla is kill, librewolf is kill.
The only one that may stick it out is Mullvad, because its based on ESR, likely always will be, and it has professional engineers maintaining it that work for Mullvad.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:42:44 PM No.106000318
>>106000139
What would they need to "maintain" about the project? How quickly is the web spec going to change that would outright break a browser that doesn't receive updates?
It's not like mozilla is adding anything necessary. They're just doing bandwagon shit and fiddling with some UI features that you never asked for.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:51:07 PM No.106000384
>>106000318
Librewolf keeps up with whatever mozilla puts out and is reliant on them for patches and whatnot. I don't really know or care anyway, the new head of the project said that shit earlier this year. It won't be maintained if mozilla goes out of business.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:56:11 PM No.106000421
>>106000384
My point is that 98% of what firefox develops is entirely unnecessary. Security updates are the only concern and even those are frequently done only because of potential exploitation, not as an urgent fix.
If firefox dies, you can just keep using librewolf for 10 years without much of a problem.
Without any upstream updates, there won't be anything for librewolf to "maintain" (read as pull upstream and apply the few privacy aspects librewolf concerns itself with).
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:58:23 PM No.106000438
>>106000106
Yeah, let Chromium take over everything and make effective content blocking extensions history.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:59:12 PM No.106000445
>>106000421
Oh yeah, I'm an updooter, if I was this type of person I'd still be on palemoon. With how much the web has changed lately, I don''t expect librewolf would be as functional as it is now even two years out.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:00:59 PM No.106000459
Good. Mozilla is basically the CEOs money laundering scam at this point. If they "scale back operations", that means they'll just fire half the workforce and double the CEOs pay (again).
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:14:45 PM No.106002225
>>105998487
>Google might not be owning Chrome anymore
so even worse, you gonna start paying up for Chrome Deluxe Gold edition?
now with WebGPU+ for maximum gaming force?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:45:20 AM No.106003505
>>106000438
Nobody is stopping the community from maintaining a v2 codebase, nor do I see the problem with a fucking open source project have a monopoly particularly when it's being pried out of a company's hands. Beyond that there are other options like Servo and Ladybird. All of this assumes nobody will maintain Firefox's code anyway, which is highly unlikely. You should try pulling your head out of your ass sometimes.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:52:18 AM No.106004591
>>106000318
>How quickly is the web spec going to change that would outright break a browser that doesn't receive updates?
Oh no, my main competitor can no longer keep uo with changes! I bet now is a good time for us to stop pushing meaning changes to the standards, then.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:21:25 AM No.106004821
>>106000318
There's at least like at least 700 APIs nobody's maintaining that shit.