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Nvidia Neural Texture Compression delivers 90% VRAM savings with DXR 1.2
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-neural-texture-compression-delivers-90-vram-savings-with-dxr-1-2/

So, basically my 8gb RTX 5060 will get a software upgrade and become 72gb?
Anonymous No.105992118 [Report] >>105992142 >>105992332 >>105993594 >>105994186 >>105997209 >>105997864 >>106000021
>>105992069 (OP)
Can’t wait to see what a blurry mess this shit is

(Do people seriously wait 2mins to post on this dead website)
Anonymous No.105992142 [Report] >>105992345 >>105994186
>>105992118
>(Do people seriously wait 2mins to post on this dead website)
You only have to wait once.

I've been posting for months without any long wait.
Anonymous No.105992171 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>games ship with 4k textures bloating file size
>GPUs hallucinate it into a blurry mess anyway
Now you can have the worst of both worlds! Progress!
Anonymous No.105992332 [Report] >>105992360 >>105992362 >>105992975 >>105993406 >>105995841 >>105997357 >>105998600 >>106006579 >>106008522
>>105992118
it's lossless compression you fucking retard
Anonymous No.105992345 [Report] >>105992359 >>105992685 >>105994186 >>105998063
>>105992142
It makes me wait anytime I move to a new thread
Anonymous No.105992359 [Report]
>>105992345
Then you have your webbrowser settings fcked, or your ISP is shit.
Anonymous No.105992360 [Report] >>105992410 >>105993440 >>105996983
>>105992332
>brainless nigger cattle eats up marketing
Many such cases! I bet you think DLSS is "better than native" too, right?
Anonymous No.105992362 [Report] >>105992401 >>105992410
>>105992332
Yeah and TAA is totally losses too (you fucking retard marketing cock gobbler)
Anonymous No.105992369 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>all you see will be fake shit and you will be happy
Anonymous No.105992378 [Report] >>105992807
so according to the data provided by nvidia, this is like 80% more efficient than avif/jpeg xl and 1000x faster to decode
yeah, sounds bullshit, it would be a massive technological breakthrough if it were not.
>just compress this 1 hour 4k video into a 5 megabyte neuralshit bro
Anonymous No.105992401 [Report]
>>105992362
*lossless
Anonymous No.105992410 [Report] >>105992434 >>105992438 >>105992513
>>105992360
...no, it's just literally objectively lossless like png is.
>>105992362
no it's not
you could argue that all of this just doesn't work for some other technical reason, but... lossless is objectively lossless, period, this isn't the first time neural compression has been experimented and it has always been used for lossless compression.
I also fucking hate nvidia but I don't just pretend words don't have meaning to do it.
Anonymous No.105992434 [Report] >>105992469
>>105992410
Yeah right, sure thing.
You are beyond naive.
Anonymous No.105992438 [Report] >>105992469
>>105992410
Post examples with zoomed in png vs this shit then
Anonymous No.105992444 [Report] >>105996961
>>105992069 (OP)
>20% artificial performance limit by nVidia™ cheaping out on VRAM
>Nvidia™ texture compression causes 20% performance hit.
>New nVidia™ GPUs use bigger dies and less VRAM
>nVidia™ takes margins from VRAM makers.

All part of the plan.
Anonymous No.105992469 [Report] >>105992497 >>105992500
>>105992434
let me guess, there's a difference between flac and pcm wav too then, right?
>>105992438
they made presentation papers with all sorts of images and data, look it up for yourself, retard.
Anonymous No.105992497 [Report] >>105992520
>>105992469
Post the link lazy retard that makes a thread with nothing to show for it
Anonymous No.105992500 [Report]
>>105992469
>strawman
Never heard of this shit.
Anonymous No.105992513 [Report] >>105992530
>>105992410
>...no, it's just literally objectively lossless like png is.
And you can download ram from internet.
Anonymous No.105992520 [Report] >>105992557 >>105992569 >>105992572 >>105992602 >>105997299 >>105997357
>>105992497
>implying i made the thread
>lazy retard
literally #1 search result on google for "nvidia neural texture compression" and i'm the lazy one, okay
https://research.nvidia.com/labs/rtr/neural_texture_compression/
Anonymous No.105992530 [Report] >>105992548
>>105992513
>lossless compression doesn't exist
/g/ - Technology
this thread is insane holy shit
Anonymous No.105992548 [Report]
>>105992530
Over promise and under deliver the thread
Anonymous No.105992557 [Report]
>>105992520
We know you made the thread faggot
Anonymous No.105992569 [Report] >>105992590
>>105992520
>look at example
>it's not lossless
So much for that.
Anonymous No.105992572 [Report]
>>105992520
It’s literally not lossless look at the link
Anonymous No.105992590 [Report]
>>105992569
/thread
Op is a time wasting niggertier kike faggot
Anonymous No.105992602 [Report] >>105992634 >>105993437 >>105997357
>>105992520
funny thing is, I actually misremembered all the shit I read about this, yeah it's not lossless, but the transcode from ntc to btc is supposed to be.
so yeah it's lossy... but bc which is normally used is even lossier so all of this doesn't even matter
you retards could've debunked the "this shit is lossless" claim in two seconds but were to busy being retarded instead
Anonymous No.105992634 [Report]
>>105992602
Your a massive faggot that has no room to talk
Anonymous No.105992685 [Report] >>105994186 >>106007229
Yeah, textures are only one part of it.
At the same time they're still pushing DLxx, frame gen w/ interpolated hallucinated frames and TAA is integral to the process.
So you still fundamentally need high input & output resolutions, a high framerate and decent VRAM & compute.
It's the worst of all worlds combined meanwhile game developers keep targeting 400W slabs of silicon.

We've already seen that TAAslop DLxx & FSR upscalers can choke, where they're all trying desperately to compete for power & VRAM.
Nvidia will do anything they can to avoid raising VRAM, developers will continue to target the top and AMD will fall in line, up until Cerny asks for 48GB of memory and suddenly the rubin based cards are choking after 2 years when games are ported.

Nvidia are a technology company first and foremost. GPU vendor second. If they could exist selling ASICs to a perma-AI or military industry, they would.

>>105992345
Learn to use a singular tab. Verify, post, navigate back to the catalogue or close the tab.
Now it will no longer ask you.

C'mon bud, it's not even hard to figure out.
Anonymous No.105992692 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
Fuck yeah, going back to 1GB video cards for $500.
Anonymous No.105992807 [Report]
>>105992378
It’s only more effective than other compression techniques when the goal is to use them as textures and you are compressing more than 3 channels at once.
Anonymous No.105992975 [Report] >>105993127 >>105993401
>>105992332
https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/RTXNTC
>NTC can be thought of as an adjustable quality/constant bitrate lossy compression scheme. This means that it will attempt to reconstruct the input images with minimal error while using a fixed amount of data specified as a compression time target.
Anonymous No.105993127 [Report] >>105993401
>>105992975
you are late by more than half an hour
Anonymous No.105993401 [Report]
>>105992975
Thank you for coherently addressing the discussion
>>105993127
Okay Jew
Anonymous No.105993406 [Report] >>106009901
>>105992332
You are brain dead if you think a 90% reduction in size is possible with a lossless method.
Anonymous No.105993411 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
yeah and your 5060 is the speed of a 4090 for $100
Anonymous No.105993437 [Report]
>>105992602
Shut the fuck up pirate software nigger.
Anonymous No.105993440 [Report]
>>105992360
UE 5 is so ass DLSS looks better and can be as good as native at lower levels once you're at the 4k bracket.
The AA is so fucking bad on UE5
Anonymous No.105993572 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
sounds like just another thing to offload from the developers to the consumers
Anonymous No.105993594 [Report] >>105993654 >>105997928 >>105998074
>>105992118
>blurry mess
rtard
NIVIDIA WINS AGAIN

10 TRILLION BY 2026
Anonymous No.105993654 [Report] >>105993707
>>105993594
I mean if they can "only" do 50% and keep the quality the same it would be huge
Anonymous No.105993707 [Report] >>105993737 >>105994120
>>105993654
How is this better than just having a lower res texture pool like older games? Makes no damn sense.
Anonymous No.105993726 [Report] >>105998082
>>105992069 (OP)
I can imagine it will look as shit as Rage on ps3
https://youtu.be/1rbh7ztsQU8
Anonymous No.105993737 [Report] >>105993828
>>105993707
increased texture quality at the same or less VRAM cost ?
Anonymous No.105993743 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
only on rtx 6xxx, don't worry you can still use amd's shitty knockoff on your poorfag card
Anonymous No.105993828 [Report] >>105993839
>>105993737
Whatever scaling the neural network does in real time, the developer can do the same or better by preprocessing smaller texture pools. and it comes with no hardware requirements.
Anonymous No.105993839 [Report] >>105993851
>>105993828
is this new nvidia thing not preprocessing
Anonymous No.105993851 [Report]
>>105993839
I read the article. Unless I'm retarded it looks like the texture encoding is done on load by the client. So you'll compile all your shades then re-encode all the textures when loading, and/or have more stutters while loading textures in game.
I can actually see a couple small benefits, like saving disk space and using all your vram even if you have a weird amount. Overall I'm not convinced this is very useful.
Anonymous No.105993877 [Report] >>105995797
>>105992069 (OP)
>Nvidia 6060
>6GB of VRAM
this is what will happens
Anonymous No.105993892 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
Njudea will do everything but give their cards more VRAM lmao. I've been Njudea for my last 5 cards but I'm going AMD next round since I don't use jeetdows 11 anymore
Anonymous No.105994120 [Report] >>105994299
>>105993707
nta but one of the advantages is less storage space required
instead of needing to store 4/5 different resolutions for each texture, you can just have one or two
Anonymous No.105994186 [Report] >>106011846
>>105992118
>>105992142
>>105992345
>>105992685

newfags dont knw about the gay domain kek
Anonymous No.105994299 [Report] >>105994324
>>105994120
I'd like to believe in that but games will still be 150gb anyway. If it saves 10gb at this point I don't care anymore. People who actually have older systems with low vram do not have the overhead for this extra online processing.
Anonymous No.105994324 [Report]
>>105994299
people have newer systems with low vram
Anonymous No.105994344 [Report] >>105995810
>>105992069 (OP)
AMD shills can't cope.
Their company can't innovate, always chasing, never setting new standards. Imagine how better the industry would be if Nvidia had an actual competitor.
Anonymous No.105994383 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
Great!
When will you green niggers release a fucking card with enough VRAM that doesn't cost $4000 and get obsoloted by a meaningless """feature""" that you totally can't activate on the old cards
Anonymous No.105994402 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>So, basically my 8gb RTX 5060 will get a software upgrade and become 72gb?
>will be exclusive for the 6000 series
ack
Anonymous No.105995001 [Report] >>105995238
>>105992069 (OP)
Boy I love latency. Can't wait for this to make games worse and have zero impact on use cases that actually require VRAM
Anonymous No.105995238 [Report] >>105995819
>>105995001
It shouldn't impact latency thoughverbeit
Anonymous No.105995797 [Report]
>>105993877
>6GB
Try 4, buddy.
Complain about your desktop environment and web browser taking too much VRAM? Close that shit down dude, those are high end features. You do know you didn't buy a 4k card, right? No. I don't care if you want to use 2 or 3 monitors, you bought a 1080p (upscaled from 540p) card and it'll play games on low.

You want the big boi features, you pay the big boi bucks.
Anonymous No.105995810 [Report]
>>105994344
>Imagine how better the industry would be if Nvidia had an actual competitor.
Intel could be that in 4-5 years. If they weren't attached to Intel...If they didn't have Lisa Su willing to sacrifice billions to save trillions for her cuz.
Anonymous No.105995819 [Report]
>>105995238
>+1ms of overhead out of the box minimum
lol lmao
Anonymous No.105995841 [Report]
>>105992332
https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/RTXNTC
are you subhumans really incapable of reading the description of the software you are trying to shill?
Anonymous No.105996807 [Report]
JUST SHOW THE FUCKING FRAMES THAT COME FROM THE FUCKING GAME, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anonymous No.105996833 [Report]
Classic case of nvidia novidya, just like directstorage games.
Anonymous No.105996946 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
2GB vram is enough
Anonymous No.105996961 [Report]
>>105992444
/this
Anonymous No.105996983 [Report]
>>105992360
Barring MSAA, DLSS is actually better than any other anti alias solution, to be desu
Anonymous No.105997021 [Report]
so fake textures, fake frames, fake resolutions, we're basically entering the era of analog gaming lol
Anonymous No.105997209 [Report] >>105997351 >>105998842 >>106007106 >>106007500
>>105992118
>blurry mess
no. it does the opposite
Anonymous No.105997289 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
I'm not getting my hopes up before I see some actual footage
Anonymous No.105997299 [Report]
>>105992520
kill this guy with hammers
Anonymous No.105997318 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>this brand new tech is supported by our upcoming RTX 5080ti and 5090ti :^)
Anonymous No.105997326 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
No, all textures will look 90% worse while also giving you a performance hit.
Anonymous No.105997351 [Report] >>105997852
>>105997209
Imagine if they put all this effort into making the card to it's actual job instead of meme ai garbage.
Anonymous No.105997357 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>>105992332
>>105992520
>>105992602
Reminder there's a reason mods don't permaban these blatant ads
Anonymous No.105997852 [Report] >>105997942
>>105997351
>makes textures look 10x sharper while taking up less vram
>but it's a meme because I can't run it
retard
Anonymous No.105997864 [Report]
>>105992118
>this dead website
Xe says, coming from a board with a 100th of the users.
Anonymous No.105997928 [Report] >>105997948
>>105993594
>retard
Look at the NTC (Nvidia Texture Compression), it's the middle one, look at how much detail is missing compared to the reference image.

Either you're blind, retarded, an nshitia shill or mix of the options.
Anonymous No.105997942 [Report] >>105997969
>>105997852
>makes the textures .7x sharper
>also makes the frame take longer to render
I swear gamers are the most retarded "tech" people, dumber than even web devs
Anonymous No.105997948 [Report] >>105998099
>>105997928
Shut up faggot
Way more detail is preserved vs what literally have today which is 100 trillion times worse
You never get the ref image
Or do you want to buy the 96GB VRAM RTX PRO 6000
NVIDIA IS HEADING TO 10 TRILLION
OTHERS ARE NOWHERE NEAR AND IN THE MUD
NVIDIA WINS AGAIN
Anonymous No.105997969 [Report] >>105998099
>>105997942
You can't run it. Prove me wrong. Post your windows display screen showing your GPU.

>1ms is game breaking
lol
Anonymous No.105997971 [Report] >>105997983 >>105998001
>4k (upscaled from 1080, 3/4 frames are fake, in engine effects are rendered at 900p and upscaled, everything is blurred by TAA, textures actually 720 and upscaled) then an AI sharpness filter is applied over the top of everything

Wake me up from this hell.
Anonymous No.105997983 [Report] >>105998041
>>105997971
>Wake me up from this hell.
you're free to continue running 720p 30fps for as long as you want
Anonymous No.105998001 [Report] >>105998007 >>105998009
>>105997971
Despite all this the games are still 50gb each and run at 20 fps, for some reason
Anonymous No.105998007 [Report] >>105998041
>>105998001
It's time to upgrade, anon
Anonymous No.105998009 [Report]
>>105998001
>50
Try 100-150, some shitgirl repacks start at 50gb compressed.
Anonymous No.105998033 [Report] >>105998041 >>105998121
wen did 4chan become a 3rd world image board?
Anonymous No.105998041 [Report] >>105998069
>>105997983
>>105998007
>>105998033
low effort bait
Anonymous No.105998063 [Report]
>>105992345
>It makes me wait anytime I move to a new thread
That happens if the site can't save your cloudflare unique user ID fingerprint in a cookie. You are either blocking or auto clearing cookies, or have some other javascript blocker.
Anonymous No.105998069 [Report] >>105998075
>>105998041
>Technology board
>reeee, I don't like it I don't like it
Anonymous No.105998074 [Report] >>105998079
>>105993594
>save 90% VRAM by compressing textures to 10% their size

fucking ingenious. next up: games run ten times faster if you run them on lowest graphics settings in 720p instead of Ultra 4k.
Anonymous No.105998075 [Report] >>105998083
>>105998069
that's right
Anonymous No.105998079 [Report] >>105998214 >>105998844
>>105998074
>cries that GPU can't run games due to low VRAM
>now it can
>still cries
Anonymous No.105998082 [Report]
>>105993726
Man that's basically how Borderlands worked on every level transition.
Anonymous No.105998083 [Report] >>105998101
>>105998075
I know , thirdy
Anonymous No.105998099 [Report] >>105998115 >>105999566 >>106000329
>>105997948
No, you get the reference image in modern games. The sharpness depends on how they filter the image, bilinear or trilinear or anisotropic. That's why we need so much VRAM these days. The video card works on the raw pixel values from 0-1 for RGBA.

>>105997969
1ms is fucking eternity and yes waiting an extra 1ms for a worse result and being happy about it is some kind of digital cucking by nshitia on retards
Anonymous No.105998101 [Report] >>105998119
>>105998083
this will primarily be used by thirdies with budget gpus so im not sure why you are trying this tired bait
Anonymous No.105998115 [Report] >>105998162
>>105998099
>1ms is fucking eternity
I suppose it is when your PC is dogshit and barely manages 30fps
Anonymous No.105998119 [Report] >>105998148
>>105998101
>used by thirdies
it's for 5090 GPUs to do large ultra detailed textures
Anonymous No.105998121 [Report]
>>105998033
When did you start posting?
Anonymous No.105998148 [Report] >>105998164
>>105998119
>This means that AI hardware could be used to make high-end gaming more viable on graphics cards with little VRAM
Anonymous No.105998162 [Report] >>105998175
>>105998115
>I suppose it is when your PC is dogshit and barely manages 30fps

Children, look this! This is a perfect example of why modern software is so slow and shitty these days. This kind of double digit IQ, lazy and ignorant take is the reason. This anon thinks it's ok to make the game not only look worse but slower because he's stupid enough to fall for nshitia's PR. You know what I have? A lot of VRAM to run the reference textures at full quality and full speed. It's ironic that you're calling me poor for not wanting a feature that is targeted at people who can't afford GPU's with lot's of VRAM. Lol anon, lmao even.
Anonymous No.105998164 [Report] >>105998196 >>105998467
>>105998148
yes. But not on your GPU, right?

https://youtu.be/fZLNWJzuIRs
Anonymous No.105998175 [Report] >>105998225
>>105998162
>look everyone. Join my plight at winning anon because he called my PC dogshit
Where do you think you are?
Anonymous No.105998196 [Report] >>105998201
>>105998164
Correct, I will not being using AI upscaling on my vram.
Anonymous No.105998201 [Report] >>105998215
>>105998196
We know this. That's why you're in this thread having a melty
Anonymous No.105998214 [Report]
>>105998079
>GPUs with low VRAM can now run games by scaling them down by 15 years in graphics.

If that's all they can do then they are fucking pointless and we may as well stick to RX480 cards.
Anonymous No.105998215 [Report]
>>105998201
ok
Anonymous No.105998225 [Report] >>105998301 >>105998318
>>105998175
We PC is dogshit and that's why you want this feature so badly. At the same time you should also not be allowed near a computer for being retarded
Anonymous No.105998301 [Report] >>105998340
>>105998225
He called my PC shit but I've been supersampling games with TAA disabled to get some semblance of image clarity out of unreal shit engine
Anonymous No.105998318 [Report]
>>105998225
Your and not we
Anonymous No.105998336 [Report] >>105998494
>muh fake frames
>muh fake textures
If my game looks good and runs without slowdowns i don't care
Anonymous No.105998340 [Report] >>105998354
>>105998301
Well tough shit, it will always look like shit unless you are using the forward shading renderer. The deferred renderer takes too many liberties with it's passes and that's why everything looks like a smeary mess.
Anonymous No.105998354 [Report] >>105998390
>>105998340
supersampled 4k down to 1080 with no AA at all looks good enough for me in most cases, sometimes even 1440p is enough to remove dithering on hair and other extremely fine detailed objects

far better looking that upscaled frame genned trash with input lag, artifacts and sharpening filters
Anonymous No.105998390 [Report]
>>105998354
It doesn't matter the deferred renderer depends too much on temporal effects so it samples previous frames and if it can't you just get a noisy render.

Temporal rendering was a mistake.
Anonymous No.105998467 [Report] >>105999306
>>105998164
did you seriously link an actual fucking jeet?
Anonymous No.105998494 [Report] >>105998568
>>105998336
fake textures aren't a thing but fake frames are
Anonymous No.105998525 [Report] >>105998716 >>106007570
>>105992069 (OP)
is there some hidden realm of budget gpus which have excellent performance but are missing out on vram? what exactly is the point of this?
Anonymous No.105998568 [Report]
>>105998494
And as long as it looks good I don't give a shit
Anonymous No.105998600 [Report]
>>105992332
nope
you can try it today and see it makes the textures look as if you've turned on 70% scaling with bad blurry TAA
I'd post pics but I tried it months ago (the aviation helmet demo)
Anonymous No.105998716 [Report] >>105999073
>>105998525
>budget gpus which have excellent performance but are missing out on vram
No, of course they are fucking you on performance too but they are fucking you with gimped VRAM much worse.
Anonymous No.105998842 [Report] >>105999334 >>105999415 >>106007156
>>105997209
its over 100% more computationally expensive.
you only have 16ms to get 60fps
a single ground texture now eats almost 10% of ur ms budget
yea trading a few mb of vram to be stuck at 30fps with 4x framegen isnt worth it
Anonymous No.105998844 [Report]
>>105998079
all they wanna do is cry
Anonymous No.105999073 [Report]
>>105998716
>8GB budget trash
it struggles with 1440p anyway
>12GB cards
it struggles with 4k anyway
you could make games use 0 vram and they'd still be cock-blocked by the actual compute on those cards.
and now you got 2GB -> 3GB chips so the next gen gets a 50% increase in baseline vram for free anyway, which makes it even less of a problem for the few edge cases where a game wants 12.5GB vram but only has 12GB vram
I have no idea what the benefit is supposed to be here. fake 16k textures on dogshit gpus?
Anonymous No.105999123 [Report]
all this just to avoid putting a little more vram on their gpus so they can keep price gouging
Anonymous No.105999306 [Report] >>106001723
>>105998467
Yes. I thought it would be best hearing it from someone he could related to
Anonymous No.105999334 [Report] >>106006594 >>106007156
>>105998842
It's always funny watching retards guess how the tech is going to work.
>a single texture eats 10% of your frame time budget
lol. even lmao
Anonymous No.105999415 [Report] >>105999537 >>106007156
>>105998842
lol
Anonymous No.105999438 [Report] >>105999554
If this means I can use 8K textures in my scenes at the cost of 2K textures for a negligible drop in performance, this will be revolutionary.
Anonymous No.105999454 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
Will this come to Vulkan?
Anonymous No.105999537 [Report] >>105999610
>>105999415
so does this take away tensor cores or shaders that could be used for the game? am I going to need a new card with more of each so that 8gb vram is enough?
Anonymous No.105999554 [Report] >>105999603
>>105999438
why?
Anonymous No.105999566 [Report]
>>105998099
>No, you get the reference image in modern games
You're mentally retarded. BC6H(dr) is the standard compression algorithm for textures in modern engines. It usually occurs AT IMPORT. This is unreal engine 5. No game ships with reference assets, all you're doing when you extract them is transcoding them back to a lossless format like PNG.
Anonymous No.105999603 [Report] >>105999729
>>105999554
Hyper realistic minecraft textures are important and can clog any GPU if you add shaders to it
Anonymous No.105999610 [Report] >>105999638
>>105999537
It'll be used on 24/32GB GPUs so they can have 8k/16k textures on everything.
Anonymous No.105999638 [Report] >>105999682
>>105999610
>8k/16k textures on everything
you won't even notice the difference unless you get some silly 6k display
Anonymous No.105999682 [Report]
>>105999638
of course you can see them. They exist today, are you blind?
Anonymous No.105999729 [Report] >>105999737
>>105999603
doesn't nano or whatever the fuck solve that already
Anonymous No.105999737 [Report]
>>105999729
idk I'm just making fun of this useless technology
Anonymous No.105999776 [Report] >>106000102 >>106000115 >>106000618
>>105992069 (OP)
All of this just so they don't have to make consumer cards good at AI. Gotta keep that VRAM down to force you to buy the really expensive cards.
Anonymous No.105999988 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
Any chance of this technology coming to Blender? This would be miraculous for indie artists on lower budgets and are VRAM-limited.
Anonymous No.106000021 [Report] >>106000124
>>105992118
They already use this in diffusion models, they're called VAEs and nowadays they're 99.9% accurate.
Anonymous No.106000072 [Report] >>106000085
>>105992069 (OP)
Any chance of this technology coming to Blender? This could be miraculous for indie artists on lower budgets and are VRAM-limited. A lot of Blender users are on 8GB/12GB GPUs and it's pretty easy to exceed that which can slow down rendering performance.
Anonymous No.106000085 [Report]
>>106000072
You're trading memory for runtime decompression and neural processing. If you're on a 8GB GPU you will still get horrible runtime performance.
Anonymous No.106000102 [Report]
>>105999776
>Gotta keep that VRAM down to force you to buy the really expensive cards.

AMD is releasing a 32GB GPU tomorrow at a $1250 MSRP. Nvidia better think fast.
Anonymous No.106000115 [Report] >>106001713 >>106004234
>>105999776
>Gotta keep that VRAM down to force you to buy the really expensive cards.

AMD just released a 32GB GPU today at a $1250 MSRP. Nvidia better think fast.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-ai-pro-r9700.c4290
Anonymous No.106000124 [Report] >>106000201
>>106000021
AI images look like AI images. And I'm not talking about outdated bullshit like bad hands. Would you want to play a game that was riddled with JPG artefacts? Well I consider the AI look to be worse than JPG macroblocking. I'd rather put up with cloud streaming than AI and I will never pay money for cloud streaming.
Anonymous No.106000126 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>90% VRAM SAVINGS
Anonymous No.106000201 [Report]
>>106000124
Are you retarded, that's not anything what I said. Why are you stupid? I mean this seriously, why are you so dumb? Why did you insist on saying something retarded? For perspective, what you said was like if I said:
"You know stoves are very good at boiling water"
and you said
"I hate how soup tastes".
Anonymous No.106000329 [Report] >>106000640 >>106003625
>AMDjeets, schizos, poorfags, and thirdies all seething about new tech once again
>>105998099
>No, you get the reference image in modern games.
Fucking retard lmao
Anonymous No.106000618 [Report]
>>105999776
>All of this just so they don't have to make consumer cards good at AI
idk why they even bother, local models are:
- garbage (anything that fits in consumer models, ie dinky 30B max, and quantized into shitty 4b to boot)
- quantized into uselessness (muh deepseek 1.4b quant are you fucking serious)
- impossible to run locally unless you literally wait 20-60 minutes for a single answer (deepseek at good quant)
and it's not like they won't be forced into 24GB vram when next-gen consoles come out anyway so
Anonymous No.106000640 [Report] >>106001004 >>106003337
>>106000329
but poorfags are the ones who might have some use from it
what can I use the extra ram for on a 4070ti super with 16gb vram? it already runs 4k
Anonymous No.106000952 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>they'll do anything to avoid giving us more vram
Fuck this timeline.
Anonymous No.106000993 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>So, basically my 8gb RTX 5060 will get a software upgrade and become 72gb?
Yes, but the remaining performance will be comparable to a 5050.
Anonymous No.106001004 [Report] >>106006029
>>106000640
Poorfags won't have GPUs that can use this. I guarantee it will be locked to at least the 3000-series and onwards.
Anonymous No.106001713 [Report]
>>106000115
>nvidia better watch out, AMD released another midrange GPU
lol
Anonymous No.106001723 [Report]
>>105999306
Ikr anon, just an advice, poo always in the loo.
Anonymous No.106003337 [Report]
>>106000640
Anon, thirdies are stuck on AMpoo GPUs from 2015. They're not running shit. Even a shitty 8GB 4060 is exclusively for 1st worlders and maybe some rich chinks living in a tier 1 city.
Anonymous No.106003425 [Report] >>106003517
>people not reading the paper
There is a reason why it hasn't gotten out th ere yet. Sure, you can get great compression on textures but say good bye to texture filtering.
Anonymous No.106003517 [Report] >>106003781
>>106003425
Software means on the CPU. It's basically filler for their paper. What 3D software is still doing anisotropic filtering on the CPU?
Anonymous No.106003625 [Report]
>>106000329
Maybe if that new tech didn't have massive downsides and wasn't a cancer on the game's industry nobody would be seething about it.
Anonymous No.106003781 [Report]
>>106003517
This is a completely new way of doing textures, you can't just use the ASIC code logic for doing ansiotropic filtering now and apply it to neural compressed textures which is what the paper says. Any implementation of texture filtering with neural compressed textures would need to be done in software initially before the hardware comes. With Nvidia's monopoly, they can probably push through it like they did with ray tracing but that doesn't mean this isn't a legit issue.
Sage No.106003891 [Report] >>106004123
Reminder
This is a paid thread. 5070 will never be as fast as a 4090 and you will never be able to download more vram.
Anonymous No.106004123 [Report]
>>106003891
damn. this thread had convinced me to buy a 5070. i was hovering right over the checkout button.
Anonymous No.106004180 [Report]
can't wait for "fake textures" cope
Anonymous No.106004234 [Report]
>>106000115
>32GB GPU
>$1250 MSRP
holy fuck. this is more jewish than apple
Anonymous No.106004376 [Report]
Why is the comparison 1024x1024 against a 4k pic
Anonymous No.106006029 [Report]
>>106001004
>I guarantee it will be locked to at least the 3000-series and onwards.
Very optimistic
Anonymous No.106006579 [Report]
>>105992332
Just like when they removed one of your hemispheres, right?
Anonymous No.106006594 [Report] >>106007381
>>105999334
If you don’t even understand frametimes, why bother commenting here?
Anonymous No.106007106 [Report]
>>105997209
>134% slower renderer
>8% more vram utilisation
Anonymous No.106007156 [Report] >>106007360
>>105998842
>>105999334
>>105999415
You cannot be this stupid, you people have to be jeets or something.
Anonymous No.106007192 [Report]
are people surprised using neural networks or whatever has practical novel use cases when 4trillion dollar company explores it with their teams of phd employees

its just an improvement over old compression methods thats good enough for game devs to bother to implement for the 90% nvidia userbase on pc and amd will copy the feature in 3-5 years
It'd be most impressive if it went to console like ps6 and all games had the feature and pushed the limits of limited vram
Anonymous No.106007229 [Report]
>>105992685
yeah but every time they ban an ip i have to wait again :(
Anonymous No.106007360 [Report] >>106007495
>>106007156
explain yourself.
Anonymous No.106007381 [Report] >>106008492
>>106006594
and you're basing this on?
Anonymous No.106007401 [Report]
Anonymous No.106007407 [Report] >>106007413 >>106007469
based

no two playthroughs the same because the ai will hallucinate a different "brick" texture every time!
Anonymous No.106007413 [Report] >>106007426
>>106007407
do your mp3s sound different each time you play them?
Anonymous No.106007426 [Report] >>106010096
>>106007413
idk are my mp3s compressed into a prompt describing them which is then reconstructed by ai?
Anonymous No.106007469 [Report]
>>106007407
and it will look ugly and run worse as well!
Anonymous No.106007495 [Report]
>>106007360
The point of the comparison is that the memory usage is almost the same despite the left side looking orders of magnitude better.

You don't HAVE to crank it up that much, you could drop the quality by half (or more) on the left and it would still look way better than the one on the right, but at half the memory usage and likely around half the performance cost.
Anonymous No.106007500 [Report] >>106007512 >>106009932
>>105997209
use case for taking 1.15ms to render a single texture in a video game?
Anonymous No.106007512 [Report]
>>106007500
tricking retarded gamers in to buying your latest GPU slop which might cause your house to burn down due to bad connectors and almost non existent quality control
Anonymous No.106007539 [Report]
but how will this improve gameplay?
Anonymous No.106007570 [Report] >>106007648 >>106008460
>>105998525
Nvidia just REALLY doesn't want you to have VRAM. It's how they make money now. The real money.
Anonymous No.106007603 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
There's always trade off for such snake oil.
Anonymous No.106007648 [Report]
>>106007570
Jim Keller will solve this problem.
Anonymous No.106007670 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
>only works with """""""""""""""""modern""""""""""""""""" games
why the fuck should I care, I need maybe 2GB of VRAM for Thief
Anonymous No.106008460 [Report]
>>106007570
Can't they use their magical compression AI to hallucinate AI parameters instead of storing them in VRAM? Maybe we can chain hallucinations into a hallucinated AGI
Fucking clowns
Anonymous No.106008492 [Report] >>106010114
>>106007381
On your inane comment laughing about someone correctly asserting that having a texture adding ~10% of the maximum tolerable frametime is a dumb idea.

He was right, you mocking him shows you don’t know your shit.
Anonymous No.106008522 [Report]
>>105992332
>lossless compression
>90% VRAM SAVINGS
>lossless
nigga....
Anonymous No.106009798 [Report]
I'm so fucking tired from this AI bullshit.
Anonymous No.106009901 [Report]
>>105993406
It actually is, especially when textures are involved. But this headline claim completely ignores that the current compression isn't that bad either, so the relative improvement is far smaller than this would suggest.
Anonymous No.106009932 [Report] >>106010550
>>106007500
16x the effective resolution? Use simpler textures and it'll be just as fast while still saving you 90% of memory
Anonymous No.106009979 [Report]
>>105992069 (OP)
oh great more gimmicks to justify overpriced gpus
>inb4 only available on RTX 6000 series and above
Anonymous No.106010096 [Report]
>>106007426
no. neither are textures.
Anonymous No.106010114 [Report]
>>106008492
>you don't know shit
>about something nobody has used yet
Neither do you. The mock was because you're an expert on a tech which isn't released. You know how it'll perform and everything. You tit
Anonymous No.106010356 [Report]
I guess 8 gigs of VRAM is enough now. This will show all those chuds demanding more than 6GB of VRAM. What the hell do you even need more than 4GB of VRAM for anyway?
Anonymous No.106010457 [Report]
OH GREAT EVEN MY TEXTURES ARW GOING TO BE AI HALLUCINATED BLURSLOP

FUCK YOU JENSEN ITS TIME TO KILL YOU.
I'VE HAD ENOUGH.
Anonymous No.106010550 [Report]
>>106009932
Why not just have compressed base textures instead of doing it in a roundabout way.
Anonymous No.106011846 [Report]
>>105994186
But anon, that's gay....