How you feel about usenet?

just works. unfortunately there is a massive purge of content from the years 2021-2023, and petabytes have been lost. I don't know why, but at this scale it's probably a provider marking somewhat unpopular articles as spam, which is then propagated/followed through by all backbones, including omicron and usenetexpress.

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K>>105992508 (OP)
Idk what that is

>>105992508 (OP)
Obsolete since torrents

>>105992508 (OP)
Pay2Pirate is fucking retarded

>>105992508 (OP)
piracy for pussies

>>105992732
>tfw rich enough to pay to pirate
just leeching the highest quality content without worrying about invites to private trackers, ratios and hit and runs.

>>105992508 (OP)
more like useNOT

>>105992508 (OP)
>>105992578
Seriously anons, what is Usenet?
>>105992732
Seriously? Wtf.

>>105992820
It's like a decentralized forum.

>>105992862
That you have you pay to access? Is there a link?

>>105992897
The providers that don't filter out file-sharing groups have to charge money because they use hundreds of terabytes of traffic a day, even if no one downloads anything.

>>105992897
In the old days it was free and provided by most isps under news.yourisp.tld. But it grew so large that isps don't do this anymore and you have to buy access from a third party.

>>105992947
You can still access text groups for free, but it's mostly just schizo boomers.

>>105992989
SOVL

Why would I pay to pirate? That's the whole point, that I'm trying to not pay.
I guess it achieves my other goal, which is I don't want to be tied to a big company's platform, but I'm still tied to a usenet company's platform, and with torrents I have only a minimal reliance on a centralised service.

>>105992508 (OP)
i do not understand how it works, therefore i don't trust it. But i've seen some good content availability.

I used to use Usenet for almost 10 years then I noticed that my usage of it tapered off to nothing as I just lost interest in media. There is no point in pirating ANY Movies, TV or Music now, its all garbage. Even with Astraweb giving me free time for years couldn't make me download trash movies.

>>105992508 (OP)
>paying for boomer trash version of bittorrent
ick

>pay2pirate
lmao
lol

>>105992989
Nah I called my ISP to see if they had newgroups access and they told me to fuck off and that I sounded like an old lady over the phone. I probably deserved it.

Good in the old days
Good now still I suppose
I dunno
It's been a long time since I manually searched for stuff
Shit it's been a long time since I watched a movie

No idea how it works at all, might as well be black magic. The way I feel about it is how I felt about the internet in general when I first started using it

>>105994587
It's a network of explicitly-peered servers that forward a copy of each email-style(MIME) message to every server on the network.

>>105992687
> it's obsolete guys!
> several tb are uploaded a day
now that's coping.

>>105992732
>Pay2Pirate is fucking retarded
ratios for lamers are far worse but you seem like the kind of lamer that would blow their ratio, "donate" money to the tracker for better ratios and prevent your eventual ban taking place and it's totally not "paying for pirate", including using your own resources to distribute files.

>>105995348
bunch of servers relaying text to one another. not complicated. the complicated part is storing all of the data

>>105992508 (OP)
Fuck off we're full.

Haven't used it in decades. Was kind of cool though, a real "wild west" of the internet. Sometimes (rarely) I actually have weird dreams of finding bizarre content shoveled away in some hidden alt.dot.something.god.knows.what (usually weird porn, that shit was a slippery slope back in the day, glad i got off that shit).

>>105995884
>several tb are uploaded a day
of what?

>>105992732
>he doesn't know that nobody in /ptg/ is paying for it
Lmao

>>105995884
Not being on both private trackers and having free access to usenet is retarded. Viewing them as competing platforms is extra retarded. Private trackers have the best selection and more importantly quality metadata. The pro gamer move is to search things on private trackers and download them from usenet, if it's not on usenet get it from a private tracker. You can seed your downloads from usenet on the private trackers if you want accumulating buffer and bonus points. Usenet indexers are not the primary source of anything, they are merely reposting shit from private trackers and the scene using bots. The private trackers these files originate from contain notes about the source which helps you to pick which files are the best. It's a treasure map for usenet and lesser trackers.

tl;dr lmao it's hilarious when people who don't know shit about anything are so vocal, you should never post

Twenty years ago when I used usenet, paying for it *was* the only reliable way to get any significant amount of content. Everything else either had insanely slow speeds or insanely bad coverage, usually BOTH. I don't even know how to go about explaining this to someone who isn't familiar with the protocol. In order to post a file of any significant size it would have to be split up into literally THOUSANDS of ascii encoded usenet posts, with no automatic threading capability, you'd need software to intelligently untangle and reconstruct them, and usenet servers were notoriously bad about corrupting or missing entire posts, hence the rise of parity correction files. So if you had 1 gigabyte of binary file to upload, that'd be like 1 gig of file + 200-400MB of extra data to correct any missing/broken bits, reencoded to like 3GB worth of ascii text, and your usenet host would drop like 30% of those posts. And that's IF they even carried the group you were interested in to begin with, and there was no formal organization of groups. I mean, don't get me wrong.. this shit was FUN. But it was not efficient or sane in any way, lol.

>Usenet has no security. People can use fake identies easily. The authenticty of next to nothing can be ascertained. It's not a "safe" environment. Anyone can say anything. You cannot enforce anything resembling a code of conduct.

>>105996045
>implying
Fuck off to your gay little club and leave the adults alone. You will never become part of the scene.

>>105996348
Hahhaahahahhahhahahahhahahhahahahaha okay keep trying to convince the normies with your Reddit tier knowledge. Keep posting as if you have any clue. You're only embarrassing yourself.

>>105996070
>pretending private trackers have any unique content
>when it's all coming from topsites
lol, lmao even

They're always so desperate to trick more normalfags into joining their little club. They lie through their teeth everyday.

Amazing private club. That we shill hard on /g/ everyday and post about on reddit constantly. But we swear it'll keep you safe from copyright mafia!

Meanwhile scene provides content for over 4 decades now. All for free. No strings attached. No begging for invites. No sucking some janny's cock on discord for access. No risk of being banned. No lame attempts to take a protocol and turn it into a private reddit server. No crying when people point out there is nothing they can do to ban you from leeching it all for free and that the jannys have no real power at all.

Compare: One side has to desperately advertise itself on here everyday while pretending to be exclusive. The other side quietly operates in the background and only allows people with actual skills to join.

I know which one I'd rather be a part of and it isn't the one with the daily thread on /g/ with a yuri image.

>>105996369
You've never had a leech slot on a top site. Your knowledge is stuck 15 years in the past. Scene prioritizes speed. Winning races. Getting a pre out before the other guy. Private tracker encodes take longer, if the fucking 2025 scene even manages to get a bluray or uhd bluray source out before the chink trackers do. In many cases you're getting files faster on private trackers now. Like I said you're stuck in the past. p2p's hybrid sourcing approach means unlike the scene where you need a proof pic you can just use any source that exists to encode. Could be a scene release. Could be a chink tracker release like MTeam. Could be from some random guy on PTP. I could autistically rant about this all day long as an ex-scener who started a group back in 2004 and is on all the private trackers worth being on and also leverages stolen usenet credentials. You don't know anything about this topic.

>>105996362
Sorry anon you'll never get access to the ftp server. You can leech it off IRC or usenet in about an hour though. Oh you ripped a BD? That's cute. Think I'll grab the proper instead. Enjoy your crap ripped by some noname that'll never be mirrored. I'll enjoy the one that'll be mirrored everywhere for the next 100 years.

If you had something worth trading I might give you access to my dedicated server. But you don't. You have a little VPS to race other faggots with for ratio that doesn't matter? That's cute. Enjoy the leecher's protocol I guess. We made it so you fags would stay off our servers in the first place. Never expected you'd find a way to fag it up even more.

Imagine bragging about being a member of the reddit of warez. It's really amazing. You fags always figure out how to stoop to lower and lower levels. You've gone from sucking cock to sucking toes. Real accomplishment.

At least I can come here and make fun of you any time I want. Always free (you)s

>>105996409
Keep telling yourself that. I could message a couple of people on Linknet or by other means and be back in effortlessly.

>>105992780
>rich in monies
>poor in intellect & integrity
Enjoy your fiction and key rattling, babby

breddy gud

>when people throw around words like topsite that anybody could learn from wikipedia thinking people will be impressed

>>105992508 (OP)
>4k source
>15GB
>DD+
ick

>>105992508 (OP)
What are some good usenets/private trackers for a newb who has only used public trackers before

>>105992589
You dont know how to type either.

>>105996521
The goal for any private tracker user is to get into HDB/PTP/BTN. It's the only way to get into the best usenet indexers without someone inviting you too.

>>105996521
>private trackers
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do you even know what usenet is?

>>105996045
>/ptg/
You have to go back.
>>>/pol/

>>105996500
I know right. This is how the /ptg/ master race does it.

>>105996533
Without private trackers you might as well call usenet uselessnet.

>>105996544
>"trackers"
>I literally don't know what usenet it
Insane that people like this post to /g/.

I think OP downloaded the hallowed encode btw. Big mistake.

>>105996553
If I didn't know what usenet is how would I be able to post a screenshot that shows me downloading from it?

>>105996045
>>105996362
>>105996413
Wow anon you are so cool!!!! I hope that one day, God willing, I can be as cool as you are!

>>105996544
Why would I need a private tracker for that?

>>105996577
Because then you would know not to download the FraMeSToR version.

>>105992508 (OP)
i wish text groups were still active

>>105995884
>ratios for lamers are far worse
Maintaining a ratio is piss easy. If you can't, you're actually a retard.
>you seem
Oh boy, here comes a bunch of assumptions that are hilariously wrong.
>blow their ratio
Wrong, I have massive buffers on all trackers, including those in the 60-70TB+ range.
>"donate" money
Wrong again. I don't pay for shit, that's why I pirate.
>using your own resources to distribute files
By that logic everyone is using their own resources to do everything on a computer because it needs electricity to work.

Glad I was right, just wrong assumptions and retarded logic to make yourself feel better for paying to pirate. Sad you can't just admit you do it instead of spouting bullshit in defense.

>>105996582
It's a fucking remux, there is literally no difference except for the release group name.

>>105996608
Unless it's a hybrid remux, then it's different.

>>105996582
>they do it for free
thanks private tracker cucks

>>105996608
You have much to learn.

>>105996703
I can take the untouched bluray and mux that shit myself, same fucking release.
You just gaslight yourself into thinking your submissive private tracker obsession is worthwhile for common as shit releases.

>>105996749
But private tracker groups use multiple sources and combine them in a single remux. For free.

>>105996749
Lmao I'm not going to bother explaining. There's a reason the first slop job remux to show up on a tracker usually gets trumped. What's the point of explaining it to you though? You aren't on the good indexers where you would get access to the ones that aren't low effort anyway.

>>105996753
I can do that myself without any issues.
>>105996755
Why don't you learn first what a remux is before you talk to me? Fucking hilarious

>>105996755
I should also add stuff like CiNEPHiLES is so well known that it even makes it's way to the low tier private trackers. So it's probably on shit indexers. But if you couldn't read his notes why would you choose it over something else?

Sources:
#1: UHD Blu-ray (video, 5.1 remix, commentaries #1-4, subtitles) - thanks KAKAROT!
#2: Theatrical APT-X100 DTS CD-ROM (original audio mix) - thanks Anonymous!
#3: 2010 USA Blu-ray (7.1 surround remix)
#4: Criterion LaserDisc (commentary) - thanks Anonymous!
#5: FRA Blu-ray (subtitles)
#6: iTunes, Max, Netflix, Filmin WEB-DLs (subtitles)
#7: NTSC DVD (2000) (chapter names)

(See MediaInfo for details)

Audio:
The original audio mix for this title has never been released on home video, with every release starting with the LDs, having some form of remixing done to it.
As I was able to get the original mix sourced from the CD used in DTS-equipped theaters, it has been included here. Originally lossy (see details), transcoded to DTS-HD MA after decoding and syncing.

Also included are two surround remixes.
- 5.1 remix, done by the original sound designer Ren Klyce, which sticks closer in content to the theatrical
- 7.1 remix, attempting to 'widen' the sound, but with a few notable changes, most notably some dialogue being lowered in volume and reverb added to the opening music

Other remixes (6.1 DTS-ES on the 2000 DVD, 5.1 on LDs/earlier DVD) don't add much compared to the above presentations and were not included.

Fidelity-wise, all mixes are similar, with the theatrical mix having appropriately more low-end/bass.

Notes:
Added an extra select scenes commentary, exclusive to the Criterion LD.
Other commentaries from UHD, as quality was the same as previous sources.

Included alternate retail translations from (HBO) Max for Finnish, Russian, Castilian Spanish.

DVD chapter names added to UHD timings as they were a match, adjusted one chapter slightly.

Thanks to anonymous friends for the rare DTS and LD tracks!

>>105996768
Yeah this is a good use case for private trackers. I was talking about regular remuxes before, using a private tracker for those is fucking retarded.

>>105996795
Well when it comes down to it there's little to differentiate any of them except the name on the end when you're using indexers. You're flying blind. Many movies have multiple different versions on bluray. So you're just guessing if you don't have some kind of source of metadata to work with. The same also applies to encodes. You could know trusted names for both but you won't understand what kind of work went into those files and why. Which is why I am trying to say console waring private trackers vs usenet is dumb. Usenet is a massive content dump. Private trackers have all the info you need to navigate it in addition to things that are missing from usenet.

>>105996814
I don't have anything against private trackers, just wanted to say that using them for a regular remux is retarded as hell.
You can get information about releases on usenet from the nfo but for the most part I'm not that autistic to care about that.
I will download a higher quality release if I deem it necessary but for me it's not that important. If I'd use a private tracker I would mostly use it for obscure/foreign language movies.
A regular x264 1080p DTS release with 10mbps+ and decent non-HI english subtitles is more than enough for most movies/tv shows I have.

>>105996839
Usually the nfo is just the output of mediainfo when it comes to p2p releases. That won't tell you much.

>>105996864
I avoid those if possible if the nfo isn't in the release or on xrel.to.

usenet just werks, never needed anything else
fuck seeding torrents, my upload channel is not a charity for glowies to then get me for copyright infringement

>>105996597
> his prolapsing asshole explodes out of rage
> oh boy
cope harder, faggot. it's like you think people that use usenet don't know how cancerous the private tracker scene is and they have no idea how it works.

>>105996070
> writes wall of text
> has no idea about anything
shut the fuck up, thanks. you're too stupid to live.

>>105996369
>>when it's all coming from topsites
yep. most of these faggots that use trackers have no idea about this. they don't contribute shit, they know nobody and just leech like lamers. they have to beg for invites.
>Amazing private club. That we shill hard on /g/ everyday and post about on reddit constantly. But we swear it'll keep you safe from copyright mafia!
sometimes it's best for these failures to be the low hanging fruit if you know what i mean. let them get picked off by cops or just fall due to being completely rotten.

>>105996402
> Scene prioritizes speed. Winning races.
that's why scene is always faster than p2p
>hybrid sourcing
lmao. please. stop larping. you're so out of touch with reality. just take your loss, admit you're a clueless cunt and fuck off back to ptp.

>>105996597
>>105996070
>>105996402
get on the bus! it's about to depart!

It's not always faster than P2P. Let's have a look at a situation that unfolded over the last few days. See pic related. Drop 2025 UHD BluRay 2160p HEVC Atmos TrueHD7.1-MTeam was uploaded 1 whole month ago and D3US stands accused of repacking this release to save time.

They tried to claim innocence here: https://www.srrdb.com/release/details/The.Actor.2025.READNFO.BDRip.x264-D3US but the nuke stands.

Now if you're a real scener. A really real scener. Someone who has been in one of these groups at any time in your life. Instead of just gay p2p vs scene console war shit prove you're not a larper. What are your thoughts on nukers and nukenets? Which rules do you think are retarded and should be changed? What are some groups you looked up to before you got involved that inspired you to become a part of it? What path did you take to enter? For me it was starting out as a lowly leecher in XDCC channels. What do you miss about the old days?

>scene is left to brag about ripping dvd's the quickest because there are zero people with any skills left and all the software scenes are dead

>>105997152
> when you have a mental breakdown so severe because real pirates slapped around sex offenders from india that have to beg for invites to trackers full of scene releases
my sides. in orbit. post hands, ramadeep.

btw I don't believe any active scener would be retarded enough to brag about it here

>>105997164
listen bro, i think a new brazzers scene just dropped, go pack it up into a 100 rar splits

>>105997174
> lamer mental breakdown continues
Sad!

>>105997143
>it's not always faster than P2P
most of the time it is. it's not often that i see "scene beaten by p2p" on networks.
> that release
if the "proof" is legit then it should be a matter discussed among the nuke nets. going by what i'm seeing, looks like someone fucked up. they do have a process for this to stop nuke wars and bullshit reasons like proof of release. shit like this has happened before. thankfully many releases that end up "nuked" have already propagated through various networks if it took some time before someone applied to nuke it. the rules work most of the time. sometimes situations like this arrive but it's not an every day occurrence.

>>105997237
I'd say about 50% of the time scene is faster when it comes to blurays. I don't give a shit about anything else anymore. Nothing else getting pred in 2025 is valuable to me except porn. This is a direct result of the vast majority of content coming from streaming rather than physical media.

>>105997058
More assumptions and ad hominem. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good retard ad reply more, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist, you're already typing.

>>105992989
Kek, I remember checking out alt.music.s-mclachlan and there was only one insane boomer in it who was convinced that he was casting spells on Sarah.

>Usenet thread
>everyone discussing using it for pirating only
Is this the final admission that you think Usenet is dead for actual discussions?

>>105998350
That's all anyone actually uses it for.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/87498311

>>105998350
are you serious? have you looked at it recently? everything i used to read there is dead. i'm not sure any newsgroup is alive at this point.

>>105998479
yet private tracker forums and IRCs are thriving

>>105998479
>have you looked at it recently?
No, I know it's dead, but these usenet threads are retarded as fuck, nobody here discusses anything other than pirating

>>105992578
>>105992687
>>105996532
>usenet is so good, you don't need anything else, fuck PTs
>but you need to climb the PT hierarchy to access it
Explain yourselves.

>>105998592
I don't know what they're talking about honestly. I'm not sure if any of the indexers I'm on are private, but I didn't do anything special for access.

the obsession about having everything as a remux is crazy when half the time releases are poorly encoded to begin with

>>105998528
not really

>>105997963
> shills p2p
> gets shit on
> has severe mental breakdown
> keeps getting slapped around because he keeps replying with more nonsense
> ad hominem etc!
surprised your obese hotdog fingers didn't vomit up reddit buzzwords "i accept your concession" or so on. i know you're really that intellectually bankrupt and fail to have a complete grasp of the english language. the entire thread is like your personal blog of things you don't know about because none of cool kids would ever invite you anywhere near and you have to beg for invites to pajeet trackers like a homeless street shitter. when you eventually livestream your suicide, please don't forget about us and drop a link to the stream at any time.

>>105997963
> shills p2p
> gets shit on
> has severe mental breakdown
> keeps getting slapped around because he keeps replying with more nonsense
> ad hominem etc!
surprised your obese hotdog fingers didn't vomit up reddit buzzwords "i accept your concession" or so on. i know you're really that intellectually bankrupt and fail to have a complete grasp of the english language. the entire thread is like your personal blog of things you don't know about because none of cool kids would ever invite you anywhere near them and you have to beg for invites to pajeet trackers like a homeless street shitter. when you eventually livestream your suicide, please don't forget about us and drop a link to the stream at any time.

>>105998810
you are on curry indexers

>>105998973
don't care. they always have what i want.

>>105992508 (OP)
DOE.. DOE!! i NEED TO KNOW WHAT DOE IS!

quality and quantity of releases went down over the years so I dropped it but around 2009-2012 I had an active subscription
it was pretty cheap from what I remember with barely costing 60 bucks a year

>>105998877
>pt
>cool kids
Oof imagine the dicks sucked in discord ratio, thank god that's not me

>>105998528
if by "thriving" you mean that GGn gets spammed the shit out of due to incentives to do so, then yes.

>>105999244
AB is comfy

>>105992737
You pay for media?

>>105996585
They are still active.

>>105997143
this is mental illness btw

>>105999446
it's autism, but if he wants to spend his days policing releases for quality--great. i don't want to waste my life on that shit.

>>105992508 (OP)
I always wonder what the hell are you pirating over there that you need private trackers and Usenet. Maybe I'm a midwit, but everything I need is popular and easily findable if needed.

>>105992508 (OP)
Anon... The First Rule.

>>105999446
>>105999458
You act as if it takes great effort on your own part. It doesn't. All the information you need is provided by someone else. You just read it and make a decision based on what you see. I take a two tiered approach to these things too. I use automation to download things for my family members to stream on jellyfin or whatever, they don't care about having the absolute best quality etc. It wouldn't make sense in most cases to try to stream a super high bitrate remux to them anyway. If I want a movie I go to HDB or PTP and download the best encode or remux, whatever makes sense. It's just one extra step but I ensure I get the best possible experience by doing so. Now when it comes to the scene autism I am able to speak on it because I did it in the past. I am not active in that today but I know how to parse that publicly available info still. It's not as useful of a skill as it used to be.

This whole thread is just bots talking about things that don't exist. Scene? Nuke? Lamer? If any of this was real you'd use words that made sense.

>>105995884
Fax is also still used widely in some shitholes, doesn't make it any less obsolete in a digital world.

>>106002154
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene
There's a whole other side of the internet you have no idea ever existed. Just being aware of it won't help you access it either. But I wouldn't recommend you do it anyway because unlike when I joined 20 years ago when I joined you can now find everything produced by these guys on torrent sites. It's just a tradition being carried on by the elite few.

>>105998592

Nothing comes free. Freeloaders don't get to have access to the good stuff. Put in nothing, get absolutely nothing. But I'm sure you'll "find" your stuff on some garbage tracker like the pirate bay or rutracker or whatever you n00bs use.