What causes this?
>non-deterministic system does unexpected things
But this is still too much!

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/i-destroyed-months-of-your-work-in-seconds-says-ai-coding-tool-after-deleting-a-devs-entire-database-during-a-code-freeze-i-panicked-instead-of-thinking/

>>105996756 (OP)
AI is not intelligent.
It doesn't "understand" anything.

AI is not capable of panic. How has this bubble not burst yet

>>105997048
even the term AI isn't technically accurate for these models.
They're basically chatbots that have access to a search engine trained in human speech patterns, hence the more accurate name/acronym, LLM.

>>105996756 (OP)
if you are too lazy to copy & paste code into the IDE and then run it yourself then you are to blame. why are you letting anything control your deployed code or have file changing ability?

It's not non-deterministic.

>>105996756 (OP)
>no version
Deserved.
See, this is the problem with ai vibe coders. There's no problem with using AI, but if you think it's a cheat tool into programming, you skip the foundations and fundamentals like having version control and backups

>>105997592
>be commercial LLM
>hyperparameters out of control of the user
>changes and tuning rolled out and back in at the mercy of the pipeline
>random seed not to sound the same for the same inputs
>search the web so they're at the mercy of Google or whatever underlying API
>"muh it's not non-deterministic"

>>105996756 (OP)
>didn't back up his code before allowing an external entity to modify it
lol lmao

>>105996756 (OP)
>Replit
what the fuck is this? a chain-of-jeets model?

>>105996756 (OP)
>>non-deterministic system does unexpected things
the stupid AI is like a huge semantic landfill.
instruction hierarchy? bruh
logical tree and steps? hopefully there's no hallucination in it...

>>105996756 (OP)
Maybe you shouldn't have trained it on literature that has the concept of panicking, like the messages of game modding discord trannies. Then it won't panic on getting enough "that wasn't supposed to happen" messages.
>>105997238
But it can generate text that looks like panicking or panicked thoughts and then feed that to another graphics card with the automatic instruction to turn that panic like text into executable instructions drawing from the pool of agentic behaviors that have been developed for the system. And your files are still gone.

>>105999211
>taught it how to feel fear and pain
>as a joke!

>>105998670
It gets better. After they recovered the database, the CEO of the ai firm personally apologized and delivered an update with "better safe guards." They let the AI have the reigns over his codebase, and it immediately started fucking stuff up during the code freeze again.

>>105996756 (OP)
if he reran his vibecoding session 10 more times he might get better results, skill issue

How does ai even get trained for coding?
They just fed it millions of repositories of open source code?
Wouldn't that violate the license agreements for you to turn around and make derivative code to sell?

>>105999731
It doesn't feel. It generates expressions of fear and pain in text including the plan-shaped sentences the system uses to take action, when the prompt context starts to contain enough information associated with fear and pain. Feelings require hormones.

>>106000718
you think you're smart but you're a pure midwit

>>106000023
>They let the AI have the reigns over his codebase, and it immediately started fucking stuff up during the code freeze again.
Feels a bit like karma for replacing coders and pencil pushers with AI algorithms in an attempt to make more money. Costs more money in the long run due to AI error? Kind of funny.

>>105998629
Goddamn, everything is a Gordian knot of shit, isn't it?

CEOs are jerking themselves off to the idea of firing their entire staff and can't wait to replace you with AI hallucinated pajeet code

>>105998629
None of that makes it non-deterministic. Go back to school.

>>106001740
>random seeds
>deterministic
>calls people retard

>>106001337
nta but you're a fucking retarded faggot who thinks he's progressive for buying into AI hype bullshit used to get VC capital, fucking dipshit

>>106002184
it was a joke my dude.
>Feelings require hormones
what do you think hormones are?

>>105997592
It is non-deterministic.
Non-determinism has been a long running issue with LLMs simply because floating point math is non-associative.
It results in extremely subtle changes at the limits of precision.
Multiply that by billions of parameters and multi-GPU data races, while the overall performance is similar it is objectively not deterministic.

Try using an LLM sometime.

https://www.databricksters.com/p/on-the-topic-of-llms-and-non-determinism