How did PCs make the miracle happen that gave us modularity? How did a bunch of random brands get together and decide Serial was the format they wanted to use?
Now how to we bring that to miracle electric cars? Modularity is one of 2 critical problems with electric cars, the other being battery technology. Unless electric cars can achieve modularity, on par with what we have in PCs, the future is bleak. If you have ever had to deal with an electrical issue in a car you would know that its on a scale between Pulling your hair our and setting yourself on fire. But it doesn't need to be that way. PCs have proved you can make electronic systems that was both effective and easy to trouble shoot. Electric cars are currently just the same electrical systems that cripple combustion cars without the combustion. Peak oil demand is not even in sight. We can keep making gas cars but no one is making new oil fields.

lame

CRD did a video on this 5days ago
TL;DR every company ripped off what intel was doing and it was the late 80s/early 90s where you could repair your own computers. Then a guy at intel made ATX standard

>>106004574 (OP)
IBM. Go watch The Computer Chronicles: https://www.youtube.com/@ComputerChroniclesYT

Starts from the 1980s until ~2003.

>>106004624
Incorrect. It was IBM and their clones. IBM had a set of standards, clone market came in, and since clones wanted to work with IBM hardware, they had to follow IBM standards.

Watch >>106004626
You can watch, in real time, the progression. These episodes are old, but they quite literately follow the computer industry from the 80s until ~2003.

>>106004646
>>106004624
its IBM in the CRD video
I just didnt care to fact check before or correct myself after

>>106004626
>>106004646
>>106004680
1980's
>IBM creates computers
>Clones try to copy (Compaq, HP, etc)
>Clones to stay compatible with IBM, follow IBM standards . This allows hardware and software work universally among IBM / clones
1990's
>Windows starts to take off
>Windows was geared for IBM standards as Windows was for awhile, the OS for IBM / IBM compatible PC's (clones)
>IBM starts to make their own OS, OS/2 (with the help of Microsoft)
>Microsoft starts to heavily break away from IBM
>Clone market start to focus on Microsoft and less on what IBM was doing
>Market moves to Microsoft as the leader over IBM
>Windows focuses on x86 since IBM was using Intel
>Market settles on Intel x86 and Windows because the market (clone market) settled on Microsoft being the leader
>Adopt standards to keep everything compatible

>>106004748
so really it was the ibm clone market that forced standards.

there were open hardware standards for everyone to follow

now nobody cares to make any kind of hardware open even the people working in these companies don't know how one component works compared to another in the same device

>>106004748
So what you are saying is that unless Tesla, which already dropped the ball on that, created a standard, then we are fucked? Anyone that could sink Telsa and create a standard would not do so because those entities are all legacy car companies that want the electrical systems to fail so you have to buy a new car.

>>106004827
Kinda.
The history of PC standards is more complex than what I wrote, because there was a lot more stuff going on in the background that allowed for universal PC standards
>such as why did the clone market go after IBM and not Apple?
>It was because of x86, and it was because Intel was willing to sell their processors for reasonable prices outside IBM market (Motorola wanted a pretty penny for theirs), AND IBM forcing a second supplier for x86 processors, which forced Intel to sell a license to AMD (and a few others like cyrix and via) to produce x86 processors, which caused competition against Intel, helped keep prices lower
Why I bring this up? There really isn't something like this going on in the car space. There really isn't one dominate player that is making everyone else follow suite to stay compatible. Its more of a wild west.

>>106004827
The Tesla charging standard has surpassed all other charging standards in the US and now is the default.
The legacy car companies have been propping up CAN bus with extensions while Tesla has created a new ethernet variant, Tesla Transport Protocol over Ethernet (TTPoE), for automotive use that is well on its way to becoming the new communication standard for automobiles. Despite Elon Musk being a weirdo degenerate who should be given a one way ticket into the Sun, Tesla is setting standards for the automotive industry.

>>106004881
Chargers might (which there was a push for a standard before Tesla because it is charging, refueling), but not everything. Batteries are not interchangeable, software, motors, etc.

>>106004626
>>106004646
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>>106004762
My boomer dad used to call PCs "IBM compatible"

>>106004881
Sure, you can find a charging port when you are out driving, Thats great, not even being sarcastic. What is a protocol to follow when your car turns off every time you hit the left turn signal?
Did you know that around 35% of cars taken in for warrantee work have to be completely replaced because no one can figure out how to fix them? Thats a loss these companies are will to take because planned opulence is so lucrative.
Modularity was the biggest boon for the PC market. Because of that PCs remain a contender in the productivity, creativity and entertainment markets. Apple and Microsoft would love to remove the PCs and sell you branded pads every year.

>>106004865
can't underscore microsoft contribution as well. microsoft getting ibm to agree that microsoft could sell dos (and any other os they make) to anyone else, sealed the fate for clones. it made it that clones will always exist, because microsoft could legally sell the same os that ibm uses, for the clones.
apple on the otherhand, didn't allow their os to be used on clones, even if clones existed. by the time apple allowed for their os to be installed on clones, the 90s, the market was sealed for microsoft / x86. all the clones did for apple was kill apple's little sales they had.

>>106005031
A lot of things happened in the background that allowed for it. All centered on IBM's incompetent decisions that hindered their ability to protect their market dominance. IBM thought the bios would keep clones away but once clones created a successful, reversed engineered bios, it was over for IBM.