How do zero experiencers get into the industry today?

>>106008619 (OP)
>How do <5yr experiencers get jobs

>>106008619 (OP)
I legit did this and still get interviews this year

>>106008619 (OP)
I love getting my projects done within a month or less. Any longer than I feel like I'm over engineering something and making it a bloated project. (I also don't try to make anything too crazy, building a 50 million line 40 year project doesn't sound very fun to me. What's the point if building that that if takes half your life to create it?)

How long do you take to finish your projects Anon?

>>106008716
>and still get interviews
why would a company care more about personal projects than your programming employment history where you'd have relevant experience in a business environment with deadlines and coworkers?

I feel like the problem with a “portfolio” is that once you get into industry everything is so proprietary that you only have your word alone on what you built. I would definitely keep a larger portfolio of work if I could, but I can’t unfortunately.

>>106008839
I don't know. I never bothered to ask that at an interview.
I also recreated one of their well known libraries so that helped.
I just find the negativity on here a bit overwhelming and self-defeating. I had no experience so what does it matter if I failed anyway. Might as well just do something I found interesting and if it didn't work so what, but it did.

>>106008619 (OP)

I had to leverage contacts I made in college. An old boss joined a new charity startup and they welcomed me in for a two week underpaid stint. I got extended repeatedly for 3 years because I was so cheap. Eventually I got laid off and found my current job a year later. I now make what I should and am really appreciated by my colleagues.

>>106008832
>How long do you take to finish your projects Anon?
No time at all!
I helped out with some freeware game on github for years, of which the only transferrable experience was git... and even then it was just a codemonkey pull/push routine. And the project itself was too unprofessional to share (internet group = insanity, drama, politics).
When I asked myself what I could code to solve problems or just for fun... yeah zip nada. My problems are either already solved by existing nolifer software (video encoders) or are such that excel/calc or even a pencil + paper could resolve. Why even the mention in the OP of literal rocket science or whatever the fuck "quantitative analysis" is to "beat financial markets" sounds like trying to go around the world in 80 days using nothing but a rubber band and a paperclip... when planes exist... and there's no use case to even define if the project met a requirement, if it failed, and how it could have succeeded. Why would I hire someone who thought he could be NASA?

To this day I wonder what kind of SQL or databases a new hire is supposed to imaginate into existence when their college training involves "This is a primary key, and this is a foreign key..." and when asked what all this is used for they might say "Err... customers?" and vaguely gesture like a fish out of water.

>>106009150
There’s literally always a market for alternatives. You need to pick a smaller scope for your projects, I agree the OP is fucking retarded you’re not going to code a bot to beat markets anytime soon. You could however focus on integrating market data from different sources and exporting it, you could work on calculating derivatives, you could work on integrating with broker API’s and using indicators.

>>106008619 (OP)
Just be a woman or a you know what.

>>106009150
I would say you should mention the freeware game on your CV in way where you explain what you learned from it and the amount of users the game has seen over its life time. It's about showing how valuable you can be on projects. Oh and mongodb 4 life, I freaking hate SQL and I don't envy anyone who has to use it daily.