Theorycrafting a way of life in a post-privacy world.

If we accept the logical extension of this (and other digital ID stuff all arriving at once):
>>106014995
the conclusion is that in something like 5 years, the internet and computing as we've known it is 100% over. The only computing devices you will have access to are 100% corporate controlled: phones or cloud-only operating systems. 100% tracking of everything you do and see, up to and including continuous screenshots. Any and all edge cases will be gimped by inescapable digital ID based tracking. People holding out with old hardware may last another 5 years beyond that, but they may also just get hard banned at the ISP level anyway.

So. How do we proceed here? First question is: what's the minimal amount of devices you can get away with to do the absolute bare minimum of computing work (paying bills, etc)? Second question: How do we arrange our lives and living spaces to avoid at-home tracking (wi-fi sensing, TV cameras, etc). Exactly how far can we go and still live a somewhat normal (but reduced) modern life if we refuse to surrender?

I feel like rededicating myself to reading is a big thing. Even if they push through physical-book resale restrictions (literally being proposed) there's too many pre-existing books to ever lose access.

A single phone seems like the best option. It'll cover the normies needs, so it'll cover yours. Banking, payments, etc. You can keep it in a separate room so it's not listening to you all the time, and you don't have to carry it with you for the most part when you leave the house.

What other strategies do we have here?

>>106016441 (OP)
find similarly minded anons in your area, run your own internet over UHF radio. something like usenet would probably work even over long range HF connections, across oceans. else some anon has to bite the bullet and put some cubesat up for us.
Either way, the only method for overcoming a completely restricted internet is to ditch it and run something else. Overlay networks like TOR and Freenet/Hyphanet are good in this regard, but everything going over wires that we don't own is at risk

>>106016441 (OP)
Another question is how to punish those who have done this to us. Not just the sociopaths at the top, but the engineers and developers who went along with it all as they wrote the code that dehumanized us all.

>>106016465
The harder problem is hardware availability in the long run. You can make stuff last 10 years or whatever. But eventually, it just dies. When all the cloud-only OS's hit, they won't even sell PC parts any more. So stuff like what you're suggesting has limits. I figure I've got about 25 years left, assuming I don't an hero.

>>106016490
hardware lives. my 20 year old thinkpads will go for another 20 years, i'm sure, so long as I don't smash them/dunk them in the ocean. beyond that though, you'll want to look into Collapse OS and Dusk OS.

lol get with the times boomer its new technology

>noooo i wont a smartphone my gps can be tracked
>noooo i wont use a bank i will keep all my money under my bed
>noooo i wont use rust i want to use c so that my programs are fas- segmentation fault

>>106016589
> The degenerate zoomer who rejoices in not having private thoughts or autonomy as his ancestors have had for 10000 years.

It's TECHNOLOGY bro! Isn't it awesome?!

>>106016609
>he thinking making HTTP requests over the internet is private thoughts

>>106016566
>106016566

Yeah, it'll last a while. Connectivity will be restricted though. So you will have a computer for maybe a decade or more. But it won't be allowed to actually touch the internet fairly soon. Stock up on hardware now (storage, power supplies, etc).

I hadn't heard about DuskOS or CollapseOS though - thanks anon.

>>106016621
No, but when your only computing option involves an OS taking screenshots of everything you do every few seconds, your thoughts are not yours. And this is exactly what Windows 12 and beyond are going to do. The play is obvious. Everyone needs AI right? Well, now you have it (no opt out of course) and AI needs to watch everything you do to personalize your experience. Good goy.

>>106016441 (OP)
there will be nothing to read. producing books or just text costs nothing. k-channels is the future of free communication

>>106016715
>k-channels
What're those?

>>106016623
>Connectivity will be restricted though.
Yeah. We need a post-collapse net backbone to go along with our post-collapse TCP/IP stack

>>106016441 (OP)
>there's too many pre-existing books to ever lose access

>>106016466
>how to punish those who have done this to us. Not just the sociopaths at the top, but the engineers and developers who went along with it all as they wrote the code that dehumanized us all.
Brazen bull, rat torture or judas cradle sound good enough to me.

plan a is a wild get rich scheme
plan b is just dont get chipped

>>106017033
Being rich solves nothing, unless you're talking like the 10 billion+ range. Otherwise you're still subject to all the same shit.

>>106017089
$10B is not enough for freedom, no amount is. You're either too poor to afford anything, rich enough to live comfortably but still under the tyranny of the State, or so rich the State places special attention upon you such that you have to watch everything you do.

>>106017109
True enough. This is why I'm interested in a practical philosophy of life that allows me to live comfortably (in the psychic sense) despite the horrors being pushed on us. It seems impossible to go from 30-years-as-an-adult-with-computers-as-lifes-passion to "lol, you can't use computers any more", but that's the reality I'm facing.

The glowniggers use Tor to communicate. It may be closely monitored but it's not going away and they're certainly not going to somehow shoehorn age verification/mandatory accounts into it.

>>106016441 (OP)
We can't predict the future, we can only make some broad assumptions. We can't make plans now, because we don't know what will ACTUALLY happen. But here are my plans what I am going to do:

1. Use more chinese services and devices, so my data is not stored entitely by american corpos

2. I have a no account policy. This means, I will try to prevent using accounts even at the price of convenience.

3. Using old and cheap devices, because these are technically limited and prevent the integration of the newest and most intrusive tracking technologies.

Just recently I was experimenting with an old Windows Phone. I was surprised, that you can still browse the web with such an ancient device (although most sites are broken). This is why I believe, there is no need to completely cut off from the internet. There will be always some loophole and tricks to minimize data extraction. This is why I am commited to find my personal way to deal with it. I don't want to become a hermit like OP, I want to find a compromise.

>>106016441 (OP)
If the internet becomes literally unusable, I guess I'll stop using it. Staring at a screen for hours every day isn't good for the eyes anyway. What will we do instead? Maybe we'll publish physical magazines and communicate through letters, organize meetings, that sort of stuff. For now, I just turn the router off at night and keep the phone in the wardrobe, turned off by default. But then again, I'm an asocial freak. I think Zuckerberg said that he puts black tape on his laptop's camera. He may be evil but he's not dumb.

>>106018602
It may be a losing battle though. Wasn't it Assange who warned us about "smart dust" some years ago? Extremely small cameras that are just "sprayed" over cities and are impossible to detect, if I remember correctly.

And of course, there's the "gorgon stare" drone, which is a confirmed reality. It's one drone equipped with very good cameras that just flies over the city 24/7, capturing and analyzing everything that happens in real time. The resolution is good enough to track cats crossing the street. It flies a few kilometers above you, so you can't even see it. They were testing it in a few American cities years ago, it was in the news. But maybe they've abandoned that idea, right?

My advice to anyone who worries about personal privacy is not to stress too much about it. Not because privacy isn't important, but because it's already a thing of the past.

all of your attempts to participate in the system, control the system, direct the system, all of these is what ails you. just do your own thing and defend yourself in whatever manner you deem valid if it comes down to it.
I will not stand before God a bitch, I have made that promise to him, and I hope to not be a liar.

>>106016441 (OP)
it's not a problem if you're not tech illiterate. i'll be gladly the engineer to ruin it for the normalfags while i get to enjoy my digital privacy because i'm capable of reading

for me, the ideal would be using a setup very similar to my current one just without internet. archived media that i have, both physical and digital, ebooks, pdfs, films, games, music, webpages and information, software for creating things like music or images, or making CDs, and the like. you know what i mean? like at this very moment, if i for some reason could no longer use the internet i think i could last years using my setup in it's current state, not even having prepared that heavily.

as cringe as it might sound, in v for vendetta i connected heavily to how v had his apartment setup. soulful bunker, so i just imagine in a dystopic future my ideal setup would similar to that just with some computers among other things that would considered relatively antique by that point in time.

but the real thing for me is that if i could not use these things, if say fried by the sun, or gvt or just circumstance forced me to abandon them, i would be able to accept this in an instant. they hath provided me endless enrichment but all things must pass.

they will come for your data

More and more reason to use linux OS both in terms of pc and in terms of phone, and use XMR to buy VPN's and Socks proxy's.

Winjeet and Apple will be forced to install 999999999999 completely obvious backdoors everywhere.

>>106018773
>Maybe we'll publish physical magazines

To make these, you'd generally have to use a computer. Ergo, you'll be watched while doing it. This is the nature of the problem. Computers are so central to everything, it is incredibly hard to get away from them. So when they are fully locked down, almost any day to day activity becomes actively monitored.

>>106021300
They made magazines before computers, they'll make magazines after computers.