16gb is enough.

>>106019304 (OP)
In 2016

>>106019312
Use case???

>>106019304 (OP)
It's all about VRAM now.

>>106019304 (OP)
>anything other than powers of 2

32 is the new 16 gramps

>>106019304 (OP)
I had 16GB in 2012 lmao. even my fucking Thinkpad has 64GB, my desktop has 128GB nowadays

>>106019304 (OP)
damn i got 24gb and get to be in my own category

>>106019304 (OP)
>games
>consoles
>games
Games are for kids. Grow up, man.

48gb vram is for running your own LLMs

>>106019304 (OP)
>going out of your way to get exactly 24gb for edge cases when you can just grab 32 and be done with it

>>106019304 (OP)
>>106019328
>16GB RAM
>in the age of 32GB recommended for AAA games and AI
lol
lmao
kek
get a job you bum

If you don't have 64gb of ram at minimum how are you toying with AI or creating your own Android ROM?

>>106019304 (OP)
>server with 32gb
kek

>>106019678
i thought AI only needed vram

>>106019739
that anon prob meant vram but you should also get as much ram as vram so your model can be loaded into the vram, it's super cheap in comparison anyway

i was using 31.9gb just with 10 patreon tabs open before

>>106019304 (OP)
>>106019312
>>106019429
This image actually is from 2016.

>>106019304 (OP)
I have 13.9 as vega 8 igpu takes 2.1 for vram. Theft.

>>106019387
it's 2025 grandpa

>>106019657
do you lack imagination?

>>106019304 (OP)
>16gb is enough.
you are wrong poorfag

>>106019304 (OP)
16 GB of slow DDR5?
Of course.

Give me 128 GB of unified GDDR7 (or better) and GPU with a power to match - then we can talk.

Current PC architecture is woefully outdated and wasteful.
But it's by design - elites have decided that consumers don't deserve good things.

>>106020128
poorfags shouldn't call other poorfags poorfags, poorfag.
>>106019304 (OP)
i use more than 16gb idle
>>106019692
my server has 32gb since it's a 4690k but i'm about to upgrade.

my server will have 128gb ram and desktop will have 192gb ram (mobo supports 256gb but I don't think any Ryzen CPU supports this yet)

Just upgraded my 10yo craptop from 4GB to 12GB, feels good.

>>106019739
Vram is king yes, but ram is cheaper. Apart from dense models, where all the model 'data' need to 'execute' in order to return a response, mixture or expert (moe) models only need to 'execute' a couple of sections of that 'data' - meaning less bandwidth needed. The large amount of 'data', and limited ram bandwidth (600gb/s) on even a good ddr5 amd cpu compared to a good nvidia graphics cards (1800gb/s) is why nearly all ai models are loaded into vram.
However, with moes like geekspeak 671b and kimchi-k2, while their total 'data' is quite large, their active data is quite small - a fraction that of their total. This means, although slow, you can run these large models entirely in ram (256+gb when running an extremely lobotomized quantization). Of course, the computing of the 'data' still matters, and is another strike against cpus, which aren't suited for many parallel operations like a gpu is.
Even so, it is cheaper and easier to build a computer with 256+gb of ram than it is to build a computer with 256+gb of vram.

Note, however, most gamers will probably have dual channel memory, and even with the fastest ddr5 ram will not be able to breach 100gb/s - compared to a modest intel b580 which already approaches 500gb/s in addition to it's processing speed. Running ai models on cpu and ram, while possible, is quite suboptimal and not recommended

>>106019304 (OP)
For just browsing 4chan? sure.

If you're not rammaxxing you're either poor or dumb

>>106020147
>consumers don't deserve good things
And they're really fucking right!

>>106020384
Firefox keeps unloading my tabs / sometimes individual tabs just crash for no reason. I guess I could change my browsing habits to avoid leaving 10k tabs open and never shutting down - only sleeping - but I can't be bothered and instead bought a workstation with a couple hundred gigs of ecc ram. I'm sure my grandmother would appreciate it as well, since she sometimes uses my computer.

You need 32GB to compile chromium

>>106019304 (OP)
im using 34.9gb right now boss how do you feel about that?

512GB is barely enough.

op help

>>106019304 (OP)
I boughted 32 Gb and can compile firefox in tmpfs without swapping
Gentoo btw

>>106019304 (OP)
people forgot how to code
so everything is extremely inefficient now
4gb would be enough if everything were optimized

>>106020700
I can tell you don't work for nvidia

holy cope thread
in the current year, 16GB is a small amount, 32GB works but is on its way out, 64GB is the golden standard, and 128GB you get if you have some extra budget

god this image is a literal decade old

>>106020777
You can barely use an IDE with 16GB RAM nowadays.

>>106020003
fucking knew it

explains the random pepe

>>106022026
It's adapted from this 2013 image

>>106019304 (OP)
>you will be able to run everything
*laughs in modern software developers*

People always talk about amount of RAM but never the RAM speed. How do you even measure that? What if I want 16 GB of the fastest RAM?

>>106019496
shitposting on 4chan is peak self-actualisation

>>106019663
>AAA games
Politicized slop you mean
>AI
Good morning saar. Your job is like 4 cents/hour and you shit on the streets.