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>>106019709 (OP)
This is the real reason AI is scary for us common office plebs.
We cant really pivot around it in time. Whatever shit you learn to adapt this year, is going to be irrelevant the next.
AI doesnt need us. Its not a profession to be learned.
I did something cool a few months ago through research and digging. Now any boomer can do the same in a single line through a consumer llm.

>>106019709 (OP)
i get a ton more mileage out of talking to it and asking it questions about my theories than i do having an agent populate a spreadsheet

>>106019709 (OP)
> prompt engineer
my fucking sides.

>>106019736
what's scary about snakeoil exactly? you would need to be a knuckle dragging neanderthal to believe for a fucking moment that an LLM slapped together by dumber knuckle dragging neanderthals is scary. your iq would have to be equal to a muddy puddle that's half filled with the urine of the local fentanyl addicts. and to think for a moment that boomers, a generation that grew up during the rapid evolution of computers, don't know how this shit works says more about you than boomers. god damn read a fuckng book nigger.

>be programmer
So what do we do when we get replaced by AI and fired?

>>106019709 (OP)
I don’t want to watch this and waste my time, so what’s the point? You could run a system prompt so you don’t need to tailor your individual prompts anymore? I don’t believe that, and it’s surely in any case inferior to improving your prompts.

>>106019818
We can be token humans, when the boomers insist they want a human to do something because they dont trust technology, they'll be a few of us to take their calls and press the buttons for AI to do it in the background. The govt will regulate human proofing to make sure boomers arent getting scammed by corps. I reckon 10% of jobs will be retained this way.
Another 5% of humans ticking of checklists so we can pretend we're still in control when AI is doing everything.

>>106019818
run

>>106019709 (OP)
>Prompt engineer
I'm surprised that people with no job don't call themselves "job searching engineers" yet.

>>106020073
People in the 00s were right to bully search engine and wiki users

>>106019736
>Now any boomer can do the same in a single line through a consumer llm.
Implying this is a bad thing

>>106020073
Kek

>>106019709 (OP)
>prompt engineer
Really nigger? People are buying into that shit?

>>106019736
It is scary for midwits maybe. When your shit gets on fire and you need things done, you will crawl on your knees to us, the cavemen IT guys who don't touch no LLM.

>>106019709 (OP)
2024: hiring prompt engineers
2025: prompt engineers replaced by AI

truly a moment of all time

>prompt engineering is dead

I shit you not, I just got a promotion at work by saying I am experienced in prompt engineering. Their stupid fucking boomer faces lit up like a Christmas tree and they spent 45 minutes of the hour long interview asking me questions about AI as if they had never even heard of it before.

They specifically mentioned in the call when they told me I got the job that "we are very interested in your skills with artificial intelligence" lmao, you've got to play the game lads.

>>106020920
There's this manager dude at my work who is now an "AI solutions engineer" or whatever. He doesn't do a single thing without using AI - even chat messages. I bet he got a fat pay rise. I don't see myself in this field for the next 5 years or so.

>>106021127
I don't see a field in the next 5 years or so.

>>106019709 (OP)
Prompt engineering was never a thing.

>>106019709 (OP)
what is the endgame here? they replace everyone with an AI-automatable job? 80% of the population unemployed?

>>106021186
This. I am using AI since 2022 and even older ones like davinci-003 was able to understand natural language

>>106021201
Boomers are getting old, and chatgpt isn’t going to be able to change their adult diapers in the nursing homes (yet). Enough jobs for everyone!

>>106021201
Schools will get closed and get replaced by short AI training courses.

>>106021261
Oh no

they should have named it asksjeevesitect

>>106019818
Wait like a week for the company to lose a billion dollars and have its entire database destroyed during a code freeze before they crawl back to you.

>>106021410
That could happen with the current state of AI. But it will probably get much better, better than most programmers.

>>106019754
So now it trains on your theories.

>>106021272
what makes you think the billionaires will give you enough money to buy anything

But I'm still paying off my Prompt Engineer degree....

>>106021186
You need to stop it from doing all the unexpected things you don't want it to do. Calling it "engineering" is a bit much.

>>106019736
>us common office plebs.
why are you on /g/ and not /lgbt/ or /news/?
learn to code, kek

>>106020640
you sure showed them whos boss after plugging that ps2 mouse back in

>>106019709 (OP)

Is there a safer job than network administrator/support something like that? irreplaceable by Poojeets & ai

>>106019709 (OP)
>ai scientist
making the stuff that will replace workers
>prompt engineer
figuring out how to use that stuff to replace workers, and themselves
Gotta aim higher folks. Can't get research positions without a PhD though, so if you weren't accepted into a program ig there's not much to do but get mad lol

>>106019736
>Now any boomer can do the same in a single line through a consumer llm.
boomer cannot even describe the ecommerce landing page they want. how are they going to prompt an ai to give them what they want. there is a lot of assumptions about people being smart but the guy who works at openai vastly iver estimates the capability of people in the real world. people who have worked in offices for their entire careers still struggle to explain the desired excel spreadsheet they ask for every month.

>>106021675
cope

>>106019709 (OP)
the spec is just a system prompt documented in a plain text file.

>>106020073
stealing this

>>106020073
Let me update my linkedin

>>106022003
>boomer cannot even describe the ecommerce landing page they want. how are they going to prompt an ai to give them what they want.
make it like facebook marketplace but also like twitter
but with pictures
and on iphone
and you can use it to pay for food in stores

>>106021201
>what is the endgame here? they replace everyone with an AI-automatable job? 80% of the population unemployed?
You will own nothing, and you will be happy. You still think that's a conspiracy theory, goy?

>>106021272
You wish that was the future, but in fact it will be far darker than that. They will go full genocidal mode once they get an auto replicant army.

>>106021768
>irreplaceable by Poojeets.
Become an embedded systems programmer, or learn to tinker with electronics.
>>irreplaceable by ai.
Plumbing, but then, eventually nothing.

>>106021207
For some reason, a lot of people are seemingly incapable of talking to a machine in natural language, or alternatively, asking for what they actually want.

>>106025979
saar, AI will never be good enough to do skilled manual work

>>106020073
>J.S.E - Job Search Engineer
>2021 - ongoing
Thats going on my resume, thanks.

>>106019736
That's why the best idea is to get into AI to get ahead of that or a trade that is very impractical for AI to be able to perform in the near future such as plumbing.
Certainly not a fullproof plan, but better than otherwise.

>>106021201
>what is the endgame here?
Make/Save as much money as possible, you can always count on humans chasing power.

>>106027893
>That's why the best idea is to get into AI to get ahead of that
Im on a path to help with the destruction of AI. There will be many like me in the future, it will be an absolute shit show but it will be worth it.

>>106026008
I try to explain to family how to ask AI questions and they just don't get it, is it really that difficult to understand?

>>106027928
Have you heard the old programmer joke? His wife instructs him to get a 2L milk, and if they have eggs, get 6. Then he gets in trouble for coming home with 6 2L jugs.

>>106027957
>but honey, they had eggs.

>>106027957
No but that is funny and does encapsulate the lost in translation well

>>106019709 (OP)
I didn't even know he was sick!

>>106019773
>what's scary about snakeoil exactly? you would need to be a knuckle dragging neanderthal to believe for a fucking moment that an LLM slapped together by dumber knuckle dragging neanderthals is scary. your iq would have to be equal to a muddy puddle that's half filled with the urine of the local fentanyl addicts. and to think for a moment that boomers, a generation that grew up during the rapid evolution of computers, don't know how this shit works says more about you than boomers. god damn read a fuckng book nigger.

Stupid people can be very scary, anon.

>>106019709 (OP)
>"prompt engineer"
>look inside
>it's a guy telling an LLM to do things he can't

>>106021473
Probably, but do you think clueless execs will know what that happens? They'll jump the gun early and fuck everything up, like we're already seeing happen with the particularly retarded ones.

>>106021186
i thought prompt engineering was developing scripts and being good with command line

>>106019736
>any boomer can do the same in a single line through a consumer llm
Yeah, except they can't

>>106019709 (OP)
>saaars prompt engineer real job I am very good sars!

>>106020920
Yeah and then everyone clapped.

>>106021201
...and other retarded fantasies the glavset needs you to believe.

>>106019773
>implying shecklestein won't drop your "genius" abilities for output 25% as good that costs 99% less
You're the real brainlet here

>>106019736
AI in the office is an absolute joke. It is just new flavor of the year bullshit. It is basically the six sigma of the current day in the sense of how normies try to apply it to a professional setting.

>>106019709 (OP)
I never understood the X engineer jeetery that's spread across the IT landscape, feels like an insult to actual engineers with licenses
Even at work my job title says ____ Engineer but I never referred to myself as such

>>106030527
Its the easiest way to control low IQ goy slaves to push themselves to learn something the corporate overlords need.

I used to clown on the prompt engineer guys but now most of what I do as a solo developer is prompt Codex to implement stuff for me

why would humans even be involved at all if ai was that great? wouldn't ai identify what software needs to be developed more efficiently than any human could and then design the software itself?

>>106029991
The bailout money will dry up eventually kikebros and real businesses will have to be reinvented great job retards

>>106020920
I am incapable of blowing smoke up retarded people’s asses

>>106031226
>if 100 is so much bigger than 10 why isn't it bigger than 200?

>>106019709 (OP)
man, amerimutt are so obsess with being "engineer"

they change everything to engineer to look fucking cool.

>>106031226
Currently, humans need to fix the mediocre garbage that AI generates. It seems to be good at simple tasks, but seems to shit itself as complexity goes up.

>>106019736
>spent hours trying to figure something out one day
>my manager who knows nothing about code gave me the solution and he said he just asked chat gpt
>even I asked it at a point, but I guess my prompt was not clueless enough

It’s fucking over

>>106021201
everybody will live in a pod in a personalized fdvr simulation and everybody will be happy unironically

>>106019818
>he thinks AI generated code is good or that LLM are capable creative processes
>he doesn't know how LLMs work
Honestly, at this point, I think there's too many programmers that aren't smart enough to be in their fields.
I get why companies are going to India for programming. If programmers in the US are just as shit as 3rd world scam farms, why not save the money and use the indians?

>>106034334
No, I don't know how they work. I think of them as random text generators, which are heavily biased by the prompt.
While I think of them as stupid, I've repeatedly had to be impressed by how "acceptable" their output is.
Since I don't know how exactly they work, I have to assume that they will improve significantly, perhaps even just by simply expanding computation power even further.
The truth is, most people are mediocre at their job, and AI is good at mediocre.

>>106019736
Do these bait posts eve work anymore? It's been 3 years and nobody in my office has been replaced with a chatbot yet.
>B-But they will soon!
Two more weeks.

>>106034482
>I've repeatedly had to be impressed by how "acceptable" their output is.
I think of them as a litmus tests for intelligent people. People who do not belong in their positions will be weeded out when main stream people realize the truth about what LLMs are.
>No, I don't know how they work.
They're predictive AI. They are inherently inaccurate and rely on feedback to achieve a near 100% perfect answer. They do not act in a deterministic manner because they're not programmed to be deterministic. If you feed LLMs enough incorrect information, their accuracy will drop because that's their programming. If you feed them enough poor programming, they will recreate poor programming. On a low level, they'll get syntax correct, but they're just not programmed to replace higher level thought processes. You can use them to make mediocre features but they're genuinely not a threat to anyone who is genuinely good at their job (statistically, I'm sure there's people who have lost their jobs unfairly as management will protect their jobs at the expense of the company.)

>>106034598
>nobody in my office has been replaced with a chatbot yet.
I get confronted with chatbots on websites all the time now.

>>106034606
I thought AI isn't "programmed". It's just a soup of weights. Anyway, the argument is that mediocre and cheap is better than good and expensive.

>>106034732
You have to program neural networks, anon.
Mediocre and Cheap v Good and Expensive is a relative and incomplete argument.
For what purpose really defines the preferable option.

Shit like the Tea fiasco aside, AI coding can seem scary on its face because it's nurturing a wave of junior devs who don't even try to learn anything from the code they're working on and don't question what the models give them when it's usually full of stupid shit. It's a godsend for people later in their careers because it's only devaluing people who aren't already proven while strengthening the market for mids and seniors who know how things work and can fix AI slop. It's the same thing as what always happens with offshoring only nobody has to deal with weird meetings at jeet hours.

It's another thing fucking zoomers over because its strong suit is competing with people over the most basic entry level stuff and as stories of kids blindly using it for shit spread you're going to see companies that shy away from younger applicants because of how many people they've interviewed who just ramble off AI-provided interview answers.

>>106019773
you must believe in an emergence of AGI in two weeks in order to keep your job. The process is unknown but involves a lot of hand waving.

>>106034911
I still don't understand how they supposedly plan to achieve AGI (being cynical, they don't really believe what they are saying, what matters is that others believe it.)
Plug every single NVIDIA gpu on the planet to your turing machine and feed it a thousand internets worth of data, it will will still be just a turing machine. It will never think, reason, evolve, self-actualize, let alone become self-aware, grow a consciousness or develop a personality.

>>106032762
>>even I asked it at a point, but I guess my prompt was not clueless enough
You have to be braindead to not being able to get good answers from a modern LLM. Shit cannot be more intuitive.

>>106034987
>I still don't understand how they supposedly plan to achieve AGI
They cant, the modern computer architecture is not optimal for AI. Also, no one knows how to drive the behavior of NNs, they are black boxes even for the greatest specialists in the area.

There is a reason for why indians love AI so much, it closes the gap between them and actual human beings. Every indian shill now uses LLMs to fix their grammar and help them win arguments.