Do they make anything even remotely similar to pic related these days?

nothing stopping you from carrying around a BT keyboard and typing on your phone

>>106022129
that's not what he asked you stupid fucking disingenuous nigger.

It would be cool to have a pocket device for long-form writing.

>>106022218
its called a phone you use it to make ai slop
>muh effort
why bother youll just get accused of using ai anyway

>>106022112 (OP)
just make your own use an e-ink screen and some tiny ass ultra low power microcontroller since you only need to process text

>>106022112 (OP)
I would accept a flashed phone with a hinged case (not a leather flap, it has to hold itself open)

>>106022112 (OP)
as close as you can get but no touch screen afaik.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/King-DM250-Digital-Memo-Pomera/dp/B0B5ZSJ1WW

>>106022112 (OP)
Search the rchives for the maidposter. She (male) knows all about ths kind of thing.

>>106022112 (OP)
i wrote a short novel using a $2 chinese voice recorder, dictating text during my morning wanderings and then transcribing it into text in the comfort of my home

>>106022200
What exactly makes a phone NOT a UMPC or PDA?

>>106022112 (OP)
The closest thing i can think of is a fucking blackberry
The psion itself isn't half bad to use today by the way. Not that many characters fit on screen is the only downside really but I feel like you could adjust to it

>>106022200
zomg!

>>106022112 (OP)
planet computers make a couple of models. newest one isn't out yet. i was looking at them a fee days ago. better off with an ipad imo

>>106022686
based

>>106022112 (OP)
Freewrite, Pomera, etc. most dedicated word processors are e-ink these days

>>106022845
Planet computers is vaporware at this point.
They shipped like a thousand of the astro slides and then just went radio silent. Complete scam.
Astro slides pop up on ebay every now and again but they still fetch like 450-600 bucks despite being a phone that would have been outdated when it launched half a decade ago.

>>106022200
You're retarded, and likely a bigger nigger than anyone else in this thread regardless of your skin color, do a flip you stupid faggot who doesn't understand phones are just pocketable computers.

Just get a gpd pocket

>>106022112 (OP)

>>106022112 (OP)
these went out of style as laptops became more and more usable
people preferred the added capacity, even if it meant more weight
of course there are modern equivalents
other anons posted some, but you can look for handheld and mini or micro pcs/laptops

>>106024069
The Pocket 4 is out and has cute little GPU you can attach it to.

https://www.gpd.hk/gpdpocket4

>>106023749
stay mad.

My dad had a Psion 3, a Psion 5mx, and then a Psion 7 (which I didn't really taste, because I had moved out by then).
These things were really ahead of their time.
Or rather, tech went to shit with the iPhone. Apple killed innovation and creativity.
For a company that sold itself as some sort of embodiment of the "genius artist" archetype, they sure made a mess of the human spirit. They fucked us over. They colonized our spirits.
I learned to program OPL on this thing. It was clunky, but full of soul. Its limitations stimulated my young mind in ways the constant barrage of distraction of modern devices can't.
>>106022129
Case in point. Not to antagonize this anon, but this is what's wrong with "phones". If you had tasted what PDAs were like, you would understand it's impossible to get yourself in the same mind-space with a smartphone.
They're too unbound. No limitations breed complacency and disarm the human creativity. Zoomers are a paradigmatic generation that exemplifies this attitude. If you work with zoomers as an older anon, you know what I'm talking about. Their mind has not tasted bounds against which to harden and grow.

At the source of this problem there's the "the internet used to be a place" issue. Devices used to be physical things first, and are now virtual first. But that's a huge discussion, with metaphysical ramifications. /g/ cannot have that discussion.

>>106022845
>>106024069
>>106024084
>fucking phones disguised as soulful devices
AAAAAH

He is not writing books because he bought a perfect book writing device. He is writing books because he sacrificed his launch brakes and ate at the desk to actually get the job done. People like these can write on laptops, iphones, or even with pen and paper just fine. Buying the perfect book writing device will not make you a writer, writing on whatever shit you own right now will.

>>106025962
An actual published writer calls you out on your bullshit.

https://youtu.be/DrE011hVbA8?t=408

>>106025179
>it's impossible to get yourself in the same mind-space with a smartphone
Sounds like you're just weak mentally.

>>106027185
Pre-phone tools were meant to be yours. Were meant to empower you to do something against the challenges out there, whatever it was its domain. Phones changed that. Computers are now their device upon which to feed you their crap. They lock down every thing they can that goes against it. The path is now downstream from them to you. It's like an old TV, where you garbble wahtever they shove down your throat.

>>106023595
retro computing spergs fall for grifts every time

>>106025236
The GDP Pocket is an x86 PC.

>>106022112 (OP)
Yeah, Freewrite makes all sorts of stupid shit for wannabe writers with a trust fund and a few hundred dollars to spare. Battery lasts a month too, so you can sip all the lattes you want while writing your weepy novel about how your dad didn't pay enough attention to you.

>>106027607
That is a very aesthetically pleasing device and if the chinks cloned it and charged 150 dollars I would buy one and never use it.

>>106025179
I think tech people are being overly dramatic about all of this. Back in the day, having a portable computer on you was a statement, it told something about a person. You had a car and a tractor while everyone around you rode horses and plowed with bulls. You were on the edge of progress, funding the inevitable future with your purchases, shaping it with your feedback. Now that everyone has a car, what does it say about the owner of a car? Nothing. The cars may look different but their potential is equally limited by the same traffic laws. Now if you don't have a car, it means something - you're either too poor to own one, mentally underdeveloped and can't get a license, or you're an eccentric rich immigrant whose transportation needs are satisfied through taxi services. Do you really need a car? Do you really need a phone? Can you plow with a bull? The old tech doesn't go away, you can buy a psion 5 right now from ebay and write your novels, same as you could the day it was released. The zoomers have the same % of their population who are worth their damn, and those worthy zoomers aren't that dissimilar from advanced millenials or boomers of the past. That the rest of them now all have phones doesn't change anything for them. If they didn't have phones, they would find some other way to get distracted and underachieve in their lives. If anything, it's funny seeing them ignore the opportunities potentially provided by an unlimited device right in front of their nose, some people just can't be helped. And the % of people who can be helped stubbornly remains the same, no matter what technology is there to help them all.

>>106022129
Phones don't have the battery life, can't run a compiler, and are completely crammed full of every kind of spam imaginable running fully natively and even integrated into the OS.

Phones are a regression from what OP posted.
>>106022112 (OP)
There's stuff like pico calc and the CYD. Outside that it's 100% DIY.

>>106022112 (OP)
I was a kid when these came out and I remember reading about them in Popular Science. I still have those issues in the attic somewhere. They felt like scifi. I wanted one so bad, but they were mega expensive and I was just a kid. It was the start of my slide-out keyboard fetish. The years later I got one of these and I felt like a fucking king. I did so much stuff to that thing, tried all the roms from xda, tried thousands of apps and games, it never failed one me. Still love it, but it's a bit small, I would love a big ass powerful phone like the Galaxy S series with a slide out keyboard.

>>106027685
>having a portable computer on you was a statement, it told something about a person
Woman moment.

>>106025236
GPD's stuff is actually a full laptop. I run Linux on mine.
>>106024319
Does anyone actually have one of these? By my calculations that will have a 4-6 hour battery life. That's why I haven't bought one.

>>106027749
Not to say it is chnk shit (it looks nice), but the guys at /csg/ might have and know to give you a better answer.

>>106025179
>No limitations
Smartphones are far more limited than PDAs were, they just have fast GPUs and modern radios.

>>106027737
I meant the OP device in the first part, I wrote it like a retard

>>106025179
Why does the text in this picture almost look Thai?

What's your use case?
Buying a "no distractions" device won't make you a good writer.
If you actually had something to say or the drive to write, you would use a laptop, phone, computer, whatever.

>>106025236
>Soulful
Anon those old pieces of shit ran PalmOS or Windows CE

>>106025179
I've been thinking bout this lately
things have shifted naturally from a big focus on analog to digital as time went on
late 90s was really a transition point where it was like half analog and half digital.
I was listening to an in our time on cyberspace from like 1998 and they way they talk about it is just quaint. To be fair the whole cyberspace was starting to die out long before phones came along so that wasn't really it, but like i read in another article, there is some very fundamentally different about the internet and computing being something you have a dedicated space and tool to work on rather than something you just walk around with.
But that's kinda outside of my point a bit, what I was really getting at was how everything is a lot more digital and electronic now, rather than mechanical and analog.

>>106027820
>if you actually wanted to wrte you'd use etc
>not pen
>not pencil
This generation is truly lost.

>>106027820
>>106027900
Both are valid choices these days. Pen/pencil and notebook are useful because you don't need power. Portable laptops are great too though if you need other things. I use a 2008 Netbook for basic word processing/office use/internet browsing/listening to music/emulation (LMDE 6, Atom N270, 1.5gb ram) and the battery lasts for 8 hours, with an interchangeable battery.

>>106028085
>Pen/pencil and notebook are useful because
You do have a $50 leather notebook cover from etsy and a stash of blank "passport" inserts ($5 a piece imported from Japan) right?

>>106027820
I write better when I'm away from the computer. It's extreme enough that when I'm starting new programs I actually write them on inkjet paper in cursive and then scan them in at the end of the day for chatGPT to transcribe.

I spent years training my own ML model to do this before VLMs got good enough.

>>106027900
I don't remember the last time I wrote with a pen and pencil outside of filling out forms. I can't imagine why I would need to.

so its just a tiny laptop?

>>106030408
It had insanely low power consumption. They don't make screens like that anymore and you have to use Microcontrollers if you want similar SOCs.

>>106027732
>battery life
Mine lasts me 2 days what more do you need? Just plug it in at night jesus christ.
>can't run a compiler
Yes it can
>full of every kind of spam
Turn that shit off in the settings. Skill issue.

>>106022845
>not even out yet
>runs android 11
That OS is 4 years out of date. It's probably so old it still gets hit with the webp pwn bug. Literal e-waste.

Scaled-down devices come out all the time with all levels of limitations. Half of you get mad that it can't game like your desktop or play your 4k movie rips, the other half are mad it's not priced $free-ninety-free.

>>106030491
>That OS is 4 years out of date.
You're not supposed to run Android on it. It's meant for things like PMOS and Debian.

literally just buy a laptop and a phone u fucking retard

steve jobs sadly ruined smartphones

>>106022112 (OP)
gpd.hk

usecase?

>>106027685
Somehow I enjoyed reading this’s, hope it’s not just AI slop.

>>106022845
>planet computers make a couple of models
*tried to make
>newest one isn't out yet.
...and will never be out since the company is inactive.

>>106022112 (OP)
I have one of those. Psion 5. The keyboard is far too small and flat for typing properly, and you can't use your thumbs either because it's too big for that.

>>106027737
This one has a much smaller, but better keyboard than what OP posted. OPs device is a clamshell

>>106022267
organizing notes on the phone sucks
It’s not good at word processing or archiving. Worst way to keep notes 3/10
>Slow/bad typing
>Slow/bad Scroll
>”unique” functions like dictation don’t even work
>Horrible at editing
>Non existing organizing features
>Word count/limit that didn’t use to exist
>Program has trouble processing
>Weird glitches like notes or words disappearing

no but they should
i owned that same model and used it extensively to pass my comp sci degree in 2005 and used it for shit like neural networks and email and other stuff
very cool little device

>>106027789
Because it's AI slop

>>106027845
You can clearly see this trend in the appearance of screens. Monitors and TVs used to be appliances with many physical aspects (ports, buttons, labels, even decorations). With time, everything outside of the surface that brings you images from the virtual realm has disappeared. If phones and monitors could just stop being physical, they would (and they will, once they shove chips in our skulls).

>>106022664
>She (male)
He

>>106025179
>which I didn't really taste,
Do you commonly lick electronics? Do you know what that word means? Did you use the wrong word?

>>106033568
>taste
>1 of 2
>verb
>ˈtāst
>tasted; tasting
>Synonyms of taste

>transitive verb
>1
>: to ascertain the flavor of by taking a little into the mouth
>2
>: to eat or drink especially in small quantities
>3
>: to perceive or recognize as if by the sense of taste
>4
>: to become acquainted with by experience
>has tasted the frustration of defeat

>: to become acquainted with by experience

>>106025179
companies tried to appeal to people by adding more unique features and improving the designs. then apple comes along and shows them all just how LITTLE was required to appeal to the masses
the iphone on release i wouldn't even consider a smartphone. yet that is what everyone copied from that point on. the iphone killed mobile computing

>>106027607
is there somethingwrong with that devices' spacebar? he keeps typing wordstogether with no space betweenthem

>>106022112 (OP)
just buy an 11" chromebook

>>106033568
it's not unusual to use taste in that context, but i haven't seen a native speaker use it quite like that. i would expect more like "which i didn't really get a taste of", but eh, there's many places that speak english so idk if this is normal elsewhere

>>106022129
But then xey won't be able to LARP on being an efficient retroxister

>>106027768
Holy shit you are so wrong.

If any hardware designers are reading this please bring back BASED monochrome lcd screens.

>>106035622
>Holy shit you are so wrong.
Interesting choice to omit the ways in which I'm wrong.
>>106035787
Does anyone still make them? I actually build electronics myself and couldn't find anything larger than 96x96 pixels or so. If you can find them on Mouser or whatever I'll draw up a motherboard this afternoon and make some.

>>106022686
beyond based

>>106025236
You have to, nay, MUST go back.

>>106028204
>I can't imagine why I would need to.
feels good man, that's why

>>106026148
too big

>>106027820
Excellent post.

>>106035837
>Does anyone still make them?
I think you can get some on aliexpress but they don't have standard interface connectors you will have to rig them to a driver board or lcd controller chip.

>>106036041
Post link.
https://www.mouser.com/c/?q=STN%20LCD
None of these are big enough to be pleasant for word processing.

This one doesn't look bad but it's 300 bucks.
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Display-Visions/EA-EDIP320B-8LWTP?qs=s9z6UkyjM7p%252BVWtP5jM7Ow%3D%3D

I think the problem is OLED displays consume around the same amount of power and cost the same (or less) but are just *way* more readable and so everyone has moved to those.

>>106036095
https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-monochrome-lcd-display.html?spm=a2g0o.home.auto_suggest.1.468a62782rIpWc

There is a whole list of various sizes and resolutions. The hard part will be interfacing with a computing device of your choice. Some of these lcds have standard driver boards which you can buy separately.

Of particular interest are the resin 3d printer lcd screens. They are very high resolution, but also quite expensive. They might be something worth considering if you have a lot of money to put into this project.

There are lots of smaller lower resolutions b/w lcds too, but might not be the size and resolution you want. If you are trying to build a portable device, then you also have to consider power consumption, which is probably hard to find out on many of these screens. Also have to take their resolution spec listed with a grain of salt, it is china afterall. You can probably look up the part number and find better specs elsewhere.

>>106036224
>https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-monochrome-lcd-display.html?spm=a2g0o.home.auto_suggest.1.468a62782rIpWc

It looks like most of the passive LCDs there are either very low resolution >$100 which is silly for something like this.

>>106036257
What about something like this?
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805478904882.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.5.19dbLIMqLIMqEf&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=ff021909-2e02-4c47-b904-0f7c34157c17&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:ff021909-2e02-4c47-b904-0f7c34157c17,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%224%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%2230050%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2125.92%2125.92%21%21%21184.50%21184.50%21%402101c80217535522758116781e26df%2112000033943659885%21rec%21US%212161146640%21XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A

>>106024069
this fucking keyboard
>>106035787
based why exactly

>>106036318
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805478904882.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.5.19dbLIMqLIMqEf&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=ff021909-2e02-4c47-b904-0f7c34157c17&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:ff021909-2e02-4c47-b904-0f7c34157c17,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%224%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%2230050%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2125.92%2125.92%21%21%21184.50%21184.50%21%402101c80217535522758116781e26df%2112000033943659885%21rec%21US%212161146640%21XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
Hmm that's actually not crazy. Ideally I'd like 360px^2 or at least 160px^2 (that was the original palm pilot display size excluding the gratify part that wasn't really part of the display.)

This one is at least wider than 160 px though so you can have 40 char lines. I wonder if I can find one with better documentation...

>>106036363
>based why exactly
NTA but they used almost no power and refreshed faster than eink. With a small LED backlight they're actually pretty nice if you don't need to watch video.

>>106036395
They have a 320x240, but its a lot more expensive.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809049035257.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.6226tjVctjVcvS&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=a9c6f7a3-a698-4391-857d-20158e099093&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:a9c6f7a3-a698-4391-857d-20158e099093,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%221%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%2230050%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2183.04%2183.04%21%21%21591.02%21591.02%21%402101c80217535524149822032e26df%2112000048419414724%21rec%21US%212161146640%21X&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
You might be able to find one a bit cheaper if you look around. To get one larger than this you will probably have to go for a standard monochromatic lcd screen, but if you are already putting together a screen with a microcontroller, you can easily get a slightly beefier mcu and go for a regular lcd screen, or use something like a pi zero to interface with it.

>>106022112 (OP)
Let me guess, you need more.
Shame about the hard disk failing, this computer is still really cool. I bet I could boot it if I had the right floppy with dos on it.

>>106035787
why it has surprised yell face and bull dog face keys?

>>106036527
primitive emoji keys

The Apple MacBook Air tenders every single one of these e-wastes completely irrelevant.

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

>>106022845
>>106024069
I had their Gemini PDA before. It was alright and the keyboard was decent, but support was non-existent. I was also one of the few lucky people to get a refund on an Astro Slide before they literally ran out of money.
It has been several years now and people are still complaining every few days on Indiegogo for a device or refund that they will never ever get. KEK.

>>106027732
a word processor can't run a compiler but a phone can, you fucking troglodyte

>>106027900
i'm sure your editor will love receiving your manuscript anon

>>106024069
Based. Framework 12 could never.

>>106036935
i had a keyboard like that for my ti-83

>>106036527
For me, it's the happy ü you missed

>>106037040
If he's getting paid to typeset it, i'm not sending him a perfectly typeset pdf. Also, after it is typed in, I'll know at least one person has actually read it.

>>106036483
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809049035257.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.6226tjVctjVcvS&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=a9c6f7a3-a698-4391-857d-20158e099093&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:a9c6f7a3-a698-4391-857d-20158e099093,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%221%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%2230050%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2183.04%2183.04%21%21%21591.02%21591.02%21%402101c80217535524149822032e26df%2112000048419414724%21rec%21US%212161146640%21X&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
Wow that has like 3x the current draw I was expecting. Maybe I should stick with OLED.

>>106036986
>but a phone can
Modern smartphones typically don't let you run self hosting compilers. The Palm Pilot could.