Why isn't 2.4G included in computers like Bluetooth is? Fucking dongle takes up a USB slot. We all know 2.4G is superior for mice.

2.4ghz is a frequency and not a communication protocol or standard for wireless devices

>my mobo has bluetooth built in
>but the drivers only work on windows 11
no, I will not upgrade to shartdows 11

>>106023690 (OP)
major
absolute
humongoulsy
enormous
security fail

i wouldnt buy either a BT or a wifi board
and some boards do come with wifi btw

>>106023690 (OP)
>Fucking dongle takes up a USB slot.
You say like if it's a huge deal. Most mobos have like 6 slots + 2 with the case.

>>106023690 (OP)
I don't think that's a standard. Just because you've got different things running on a 2.4Ghz frequency radio doesn't mean you can connect any device to any dongle. I don't think there's anything they can put in a device to work with everything.

>>106023690 (OP)
I don't want Bluetooth in my desktop PC
thank you and goodbye mister CIA agent

besides, Bluetooth was a mistake
with minimal changes we could add all its functionality and more to the WiFi standard
but the CIA doesn't want that

Built-in Logitech Unifying would have been great. Too bad their new Bolt adapters are just a proprietary BT LE now.

What the fuck do you mean by 2.4GHz? Like, a microwave oven?

>>106023690 (OP)
>mice
The plural of "(computer) mouse" is "mouses".

is this a joke
bluetooth uses 2.4 GHz

>>106023690 (OP)
It's included you fucking dingus. Either you're buying potatos or you're the retarded potato. gtfo my board.

>>106023738
Sounds like you might need to move to a newer kernal, my x870 board worked right out the box when using tumbleweed

>>106023690 (OP)
>Fucking dongle takes up a USB slot.
As if USB hubs were expensive or something.

>>106024196
>>106023690 (OP)
Yep. Its not standard. I have multiple 2.4Ghz mouse/keyboard and they all require different receivers. I think Logitech and others encrypt the 2.4Ghz channel with AES encryption.

>>106023690 (OP)
Bluetooth IS 2.4Ghz.

>>106023699
OP is talking about a device capable of transmitting 2.4ghz EM signals

>>106024196
>>106026675
>Just because you've got different things running on a 2.4Ghz frequency radio doesn't mean you can connect any device to any dongle
sure you can? of course you have to implement the overlying network protocol of the device (which usually IS a standard)

if you can send and receive 2.4Ghz EM signals then you absolutely can communicate with other devices that also use that frequency for communication

>>106023738
Have you tried updating your drivers with SDIO?
Windows is retarded and doesn't download every driver by itself

>>106023690 (OP)
Those are usually NRF24 chip based dongles. It's an old, dirt cheap IC by Nordic Semi.
It's usually running custom code and encoding, not a standard stack like BT or Wifi.

>>106029325
Almost every motherboard has wifi these days.

>>106024507
while not wrong, mouses is an uncommon usage. mice is the preferred plural.

>>106029348
> overlying network protocol of the device (which usually IS a standard)

yeah it's called bluetooth

!!!except!!! the whole point of 2.4GHz dongles is that bluetooth doesn't sufficiently support their usecase so they create their own custom network protocol

>>106029348
>>106029458
forgot to mention, if you are genuinely looking to learn, you'll want to read up on IEEE 802.15.4

>>106029458
2.4g is plug and play, it doesnt require pairing, since the open band is supposed to allow any device to connect and use its protocol. the encryption was done because some dumb researchers tried to argue this was insecure as it allowed others to snoop. So they broke the 2.4g open protocol and companies created "proprietary" 2.4g that only worked on their device. Fucking hate that faggot

lots of mobos have wifi built in these days if that's what you meant

2.4G is just a frequency.
It is used by many technologies. Bluetooth, wifi, wireless communications, microwaves.
The 2.4G receiver your mouse or keyboard or controller is just using a portion of that frequency band, likely slightly offset from other devices, with a different protocol for authenticating and encoding data. Often times they have less latency than Bluetooth because of the limited protocol scope resulting in less overhead.