Thread 106091868

Soulseek thread

https://www.slsknet.org
https://nicotine-plus.org

what's there to thread about
total locked files faggot death is all I have to say

I wish there was a channel to talk about music there.

>>106091868 (OP)
any day now...

Soulseek is mostly pretty bad but it's being held up by a few private tracker users sharing their entire collections from seedboxes now.

>>106093037
https://github.com/slskd/slskd is the way

>>106093037
i mostly look up the title of an album on red and use nicotine to grab it. been on red off and on for 5 years and still do not have the buffer to download as i please lel

>>106093087
I was doing the same thing then I upgraded to running slskd on my seedbox and sharing everything I get from RED/OPS. Trying to get more quality files circulating.

>>106093111
that's cool man appreciate the effort

>>106091877
>total locked files faggot death
I made a plugin for Nicotine that bans faggots with private shares as soon as they start downloading from me.

>>106091868 (OP)
I have around 2 TB of hard to find CD rips shared in flac over Nicotine for my Internet Anon friends. I don't have super fast connection, but it works and I hope people enjoy it

Soulseek always lags the fuck out of my Internet whenever I try to search and I have no idea why

>my VPN doesnt support port forwarding
is it truly over for me and soulseek? if I cant port forward then I cant share files, and that makes soulseek users piss and shit themselves. right?

>>106093073
>a fucking docker

>>106093543
Just have a folder shared. Doesn't matter if retards can't connect to it.

>every time I connect the same user immediately starts browsing my files
is this like some ip protection company's bot looking at what I'm sharing

>>106091868 (OP)
The logo... is this a bird with the head of bart simpson?

ma ratios

i miss deezloader and smloader so heckin' much
I regret not buying 20TBs of storage and going ham when I had the chance

>>106094035
Just unshare your stuff with them

>>106094035
FlipFlopFlap?

>>106094035
>>every time I connect the same user immediately starts browsing my files
>is this like some ip protection company's bot looking at what I'm sharing
It's the default setting on Nicotine+.

>>106094118
You need to pump those numbers.

>>106096265
fake and gay

>>106094118
Nobody ever wants my files cuz I'm a pleb but that's okay, I leave it up anyway.

>>106093259
I KNVVL

Had to switch what I offered from FLAC to MP3 because of space. Oh well, people still seem to grab it. It's 99% metal & punk.

>>106093010
As I understand it, that essentially means somebody is downloading 30k tracks ahead of you?

Pls gatekeep this bastion. I can't lose more things to the normies.
Never mention it again pls.

>>106093259
share it please, and slap the GPLv3 on it

>>106093866
they CAN download your music if THEY port forward, at least 1 of you needs to port forward. but if you find a user who also doesn't port forward, you have a problem.

>>106097971
https://github.com/anon4357/private-shares-ban/
I need to go to sleep now, but I may look into adding license tomorrow.

>>106093543
>soulseek users piss and shit themselves
It makes a very vocal minority, the type who would lurk on a Slsk thread on /g/, piss and shit themselves. Most people don't care. Maybe they mutter under their breath. If you can share, do so. If you can't, it's fine. You'll still find what you're looking for.

You've forgotten the purpose of piracy: the booty. You deserve to listen to good music.
>>106094080
I thought it was brushstrokes for a while.

>closed source
>Has connection with the Mossad

Lel. No thanks.

>>106098148
thank you!
also good night
about the license:
the tl;dr for the GPL says that you are allowed to do whatever you want with the software, as long as you don't change the license. you are allowed to run the program in any way or for any purpose, you are allowed to modify/study it (that requires the source code to be available), you are allowed to share the program with anyone (that includes sale of copies), and you are allowed to share your modified copies of it with anyone as well
the only 'restriction' is again, that you can't change the license, so you aren't allowed to take away any of those freedoms.
licenses like the MIT/apache/BSD licenses are called cuck licenses because they don't enforce freedom, that means any big tech company can take your code, slap some proprietary garbage DRM freedom restrictions at it, and use that to restrict the users' freedom (thats exactly what apple did with macOS and iOS, its just FreeBSD with a proprietary UI and some other proprietary crap around it)
and this is why you should use the GPL, unless you are a cuck and like to write code for big tech companies for free, just for it to be used against people/users like you.

>>106098243
https://nicotine-plus.org/
GPLv3, go host your own soulseek server if you don't like the official one
(honestly, you should, i don't like the idea of relying on some server hosted by a faggot who is gay enough to write a proprietary client and not release his client OR server source code.)

>>106098381
I would rather use an open source protocol like direct connect or eMule.

>>106098401
the protocol is pretty much free, its very well documented, which is why nicotine+ and slskd exist
sadly nobody has written a proper backend yet, people just don't seem to care enough

>>106098401
>eMule

>>106098458
eMule is not less safe than BitTorrent or souls seek or any p2p

>>106098381
>(honestly, you should, i don't like the idea of relying on some server hosted by a faggot who is gay enough to write a proprietary client and not release his client OR server source code.)
what the fuck are you going to do, share flacs with yourself????

>>106098527
have a collection of public servers (or private ones), implement multi-server support in clients
its not that difficult.

>>106098578
some sort of federated model could be really interesting for Soulseek (if it didn't instantly dissolve into spergouts and infighting)
tbqh I never realized that Nicotine+ has an option to change servers, are there even any alternatives?

>>106098915
it has an option to change servers, but as of now, nobody cared enough to actually write a functional backend.
GET TO WORK!

>>106093543
It doesn't make users mad but it hides all results from users who don't have an open port from searches. You might as well not use the VPN for it.

>>106093543
My VPN port forwards but I need the port for qbittorrent so I can't keep slsk open to share my files. It is what it is.

>>106091868 (OP)
Mossad spyware

>>106093543
personally, I don't mind leechers, but traders get the rope.

>>106097971
>>106098363
done. I wouldn't worry much about BigTech stealing my Nicotine+ plugin, but I guess it makes sense to release it under the same license as the Nicotine+ itself.

Can anyone explain why the download and upload speeds are limited? I've never seen speeds above 10MB/s.

>>106101533
You must be getting throttled. Either that or you aren't finding the seedbox users.

>>106101548
Bullshit. I've personally done tests and I can never get more than that. I'm buying you a 4chan pass if you can show me Soulseek hitting something like 50MB/s

Man, Soulseek is a dream come true for music piracy, but it just feels (mostly) fucking obsolete in a world where Spotify exists

>>106095034
>i miss deezloader and smloader so heckin' much
Same.

>>106101604
No need to buy me a pass

Has Nicotine surpassed the official client yet or nah?
I'll migrate if it's better and/or more performant.

>>106101702
If you read the thread you would know about suitable replacements

>>106101732
It has pretty much always been better. Nothing beats slskd running on a remote server in a data center though.

>>106095034
>>106101702
>If you read the thread you would know about suitable replacements
I thought this was the other thread. I was confused. Here. Have fun.
https://squid.wtf/
https://doubledouble.top/

>>106101680
as long as mp3 jew is involved, they are not even in the same category of software

>>106101680
A huge chunk of the music I want to listen to is not on any streaming service at all. Sometimes I even need to (gasp) buy it. I don't use soulseek to source things most of the time. But I share everything I get from private trackers including the things I bought myself and uploaded to soulseek for everyone to have for free.

>>106101734
soulseek may as well be shareaza on debian and nicotine+ is only just a step up from gnutella.

>>106101796
I had been going to call you a gatekeeping cunt. But you aren't. Gud for you!

>>106101819
Squid is the better one. It has lots of options you can set. Just use Qobuz because that's almost always working. Doubledouble is good as a backup for when it's fucked but you need to find the URLs to paste in yourself.

I still use deemix-gui, even with deezer subscription it's worth it, probably the best option to download flacs of all the recent and old releases.

>>106101863
I have an Apple Music subscription. It's really cheap where I live. I need to get around to setting up a way to download from there at some point. Meanwhile Deezer expects you to pay out the ass.

>>106101743
trying slskd right now. It's failing to scan files with ~ in the name. lel

>>106101844
>>106101863
Stingy Auscunt (free account on deezer) so unless I do shit like site: fuckery I can't even get a url to dld.
I like that you can send it to catbox tho - that's cool.

Cheers anyway. I'll try qobuz.

Can I still download albums (not in folder hierarchy) from soundcloud and bandcamp using yt-dlp?

>>106101936
You should probably make a bug report about that. I encounter little bugs and shit with it too. It doesn't seem like it's the most, um, mature software yet. It's still the best soulseek experience I ever had and I first used it in 2002.

>>106101974
Probably. If you like 128k mp3s knock yourself out.

do any of you stats nerds ever track your most downloaded files? is there a nicotine+ plugin or would a script have to be made to parse the json. also if you do have graphs or whatever for those stats, would you share them here?
>>106095082
nta, but yes i wonder about that user myself.
>>106097952
"rule 1 of soulseek club is you do not talk about soulseek club"
>>106094118
not doing too bad for having recently switched pcs

>>106095082
>>106102045
He had a gud fucken nose around me too!

>>106091868 (OP)
Is there a plugin for Nicotine to autoban all westoids? I'm Russian and don't want share anything to those nazis

Did anyone hear the butthurt zigger noises or was it just me imagining things?

>>106102045
There is a soulseek stats plugin, but once the DB grows for a couple of weeks it will slow down your client.

>ctrl+f soulseekqt
>0
Everyone using Nicotine? Sure qt feels outdated, but it just werks.

>>106102117
no need, it's default functionality. you're welcome.

>start downloading thing
>user stops sharing file

>>106102347
Sometimes I look through my media and realize I didn't know anything about quality when I downloaded a particular file. I download a higher quality file and replace the old file. Some logged off users might be downloading the old file but I don't have a lot of HDDs available. It is what it is.

Maybe the file still exists somewhere[Magnets], you could probably just message them.

>>106102285
probably linux/bsd users

sovl seek

KaZaa
iMesh
LimeWire
eMule/eDonkey
Torrents
Soulseek
finally Nicotine+ once I made the switch.

What am I forgetting? I feel like I used everything there was at the time that was popular at all.

>>106101810
based beyond belief

>>106103247
Predating that:
Napster (yes really!) &
Audiogalaxy

>>106103247
WinMX. XDCC bots, the @find bots, and fserves on IRC. Topsites.

>>106103534
I never used IRC, I was a forums and MSN Messenger fag.
>>106103516
forgot about napster, how could I forget, Metallica buttblasted for eternity. Never heard of audiogalaxy before

>>106103665
I was on forums and MSN too but IRC is where the real high quality music was. Full albums instead of single tracks. Leaked new albums as soon as they hit the internet. Having access to a scene FTP got you even more of that stuff and sooner. There were also non-scene groups on IRC dedicated to ripping and distributing older albums that are harder to find.

soulseek should remove private shares function, what were they even thinking?

>>106101810
Thanks. I wish everyone with niche tastes would do that. I've imported CDs I couldn't find anywhere even a year after release and always make a point to upload to the relevant places when I buyfag.

>>106102285
nicotine is worth it just for the better queuing algorithm

>>106103247
Blogger was great in the mid-2000s. You could do an easy search for "artist - album blogger" and instantly get hits to someone's Blogger to download the entire thing.

>>106101810
Very nice.

>>106103247
DC++
Gnutella
DDL
Retroshare
IPFS
Hyphanet
Why not use all the ones still alive at the same time? Are some protocols just overwhelmingly better than old ones with no redeeming qualities apart from nostalgia & soul

>>106103962
Is there no "bookmark user" function in nicotine?How does "buddy" thing works?

>>106104005
I don't remember a bookmark user feature but the buddy list is the same as friends list on the official client

>>106103998
>Are some protocols just overwhelmingly better
Yes. DDL sites are mostly shit as they have ridiculously slow speeds unless you pay. They also do takedowns very frequently on links. They also impose size limits you can upload and that people can download. Not so much a problem for music, but is for other media like movies.

>>106104020
So it's mutual? In qt there's "users list", it's just that, you save a user there, maybe add a note, and that's it, so you could remember users who share some cool stuff. It's nothing like "friends".

>>106104047
Yeah, that's the same feature. The way you set permissions for them is just different on Nicotine+.

>>106101533
Most soulseek user are 3rd worlders with shitty internet.
The rest throttle individual downloads so one person doesn't fuck their connection.

>>106104938
It used to be like that. Now there are loads of people sharing using seedboxes. Soulseek sorts search results by speed so they rise to the top. I get way more requests from users now that I'm sharing from my server than I ever did before, even though in the past I was sharing more music. My third world internet just didn't make me very attractive to people searching. Likewise many people in North America have asymmetrical speeds so their download speed is way better than their upload speed. They have no problem leeching all kinds of shit from my data center connection but when they try to share it back it's not going to work so well.

>>106104938
This is true. I can easily tell when my upload speed is <100KB/s on an album when I can max others at 60MB+.

>>106098148
Thank you, king.
Leeches are fine, but private niggers deserve nothing but the worst.

>>106098148
Thank you.

>>106098148
holy fucking based

>*private message appears*
>"I see you are from norway, can you help me find this album that's norweigian gangsta rap"
>nah I'm not from norway
>"haha ok well that guy from norway wont sell his album to me since I don't live in norway"
>ok?
>"well how about you buy the album and rip it for me"
>sorry not interested
>"why?"
>I don't give a shit about gangsta rap and that's a pain in the ass
>"FUCK YOU BLOODY BASTARD" *blocks*
>4min passes
>start getting messages from clearly underaged retards with poor english like "fuck you oaiwjeroiwjeriojw!!!"
I should never reply to any private messages kek

>>106091877
Sometimes when I happen to notice one of those niggers downloading stuff from me, I change my upload speed to <10kb/s, wait for about half an hour and then ban them.

>>106098148
Thanks.

>>106105543
nice catch, anon

>someone queues up several entire discographies from you (all FLAC)
>all of Merzbox
>my entire GYBE concert collection (184gb)
>insists on transferring at 7k/s
>goes offline for 4 months without completing anything
what do they mean by this?

>>106106024
probably in the meantime realized Merzbow fucking sucks. but what can you expect from a guy shitting out an "album" every second day.

>>106101796
thanks

>>106106205
Rude.

I hope you all have something in your user info so I can look at it when you connect to me. It's boring when they're blank.

>>106106246
It's just the slskd default because I haven't fixed that part of the config yet

>>106091868 (OP)
This always seemed so shitty. Torrent Bros are proud to seed as much as you can, soulsuckers never want to share anything.

>>106106264
Unless you are on private trackers torrents are shitty for anything besides the most popular music. We are sharing. Read the thread.

>>106106294
>We are sharing.
This I used to think soulseek was full of private shares / leech banners. In reality nobody cares and my music library has grown massively thanks to the network.

>>106098148
Thanks bro. I've learned to forgive lechers but private fags enrage me. Especially the ones that are trade only or want money for their precious files. Also this thread inspired be to geoblock India and China.

>>106091868 (OP)
I like the idea of it but the selection isn’t great desu. Most popular stuff can be found easily but the moment you get off the beaten path it’s 50/50 at best

>nobody ever downloads any of my .m4a 256 kbps
but those are good quality, i converted them from flac myself ;_;

Which one of you did this?

>>106107824
average slsk chatroom lol
>>106106511
pretty much. i'm able to seed a modest 400gb library of music and films with no limits and i've never ran into issues on a 300mbps connection.
>>106106795
i find it's the exact opposite, i've found rare bootlegs for artists that i'm obsessed with that aren't anywhere else.

>>106107935
>>106107954
>>106101974

>>106106294
Of course i'm on a private tracker do you think i am indian???

>>106101810
you're the man

>>106105900
pretty sure that skews your listed upload speed (if you care about it)

>>106105882
This has happened to me too. Strange for people to do this.

>>106109541
>>106105882
im ok with doxing myself to show one of those encounters

they used slang from Kigali, Rwanda. it's literal mudhut dwellers doing this.

>>106109597
i've mainly seen the main clown who does this referred to as "reggae guy"

>>106107919
>average slsk chatroom
Why are they all so unhinged
Hundreds of messages, barely coherent.
>>106109597
Yep that's the guy. He did the same to me October of last year.

was it always intentional that you have to refresh the room list to actually get a full list of all the chat rooms? i always wondered why it was like that. you get a bunch of weird rooms with 1 person in them in the list after refreshing it.

>>106109597
This Bun_It_Ranks guy did the same to me.
Not sure what I replied with.
I should have asked for crypto.

>>106109597
Thanks for the files, I've bummed quite a few from you

>>106107954
Look, man, I just share my whole folder.

>>106101819
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/g.desu.meta/text/gatekeeping/
kino, me dude. 10x!

>>106106816
Should've kept the flacs

Some observations I have made from running soulseek on my seedbox:

1. Some users are just looking for one or two tracks off of an album. They end up downloading from me just because I am fast.
2. Some users skip the logs, cover art, etc when downloading. This is obviously bad for future users who will be looking for complete, original, verified rips.
3. A brand new popular album that just came out a few days ago will be downloaded from me countless times. I'm fast and a lot of people are looking for it, so I become the primary source.

>>106107935
Honestly it's faster than going through bandcamp and checking the URL on my mail

>>106101732
the official client can't even close to systray lmao before trying nicotine I had to block the program from showing up on my taskbar, hide it under the taskbar and set up a hotkey to maximize the window

>>106113287
>2.
yea that's me

>>106113426
I trust bandcamp's servers more than bitrot ridden HDD that has been running ten years on some belgian's basement

speaking of bandcamp... does "preparing" mean "watermarking, so we can trace your ass"?

>>106114337
you don't have to worry about bandcamp tracing you lol. their releases are shared all over the internet without any repercussions.

I always assumed preparing meant they were re-encoding the album from the source to your chosen format.

>>106114337
maybe it's just conversion from the lossless + retrieval

>>106114402
>>106114404
this happens every single time I download, even in the same format. and since, in terms of hosting cost, CPU time >>> storage space, it doesn't make sense for them to re-encode on every download.

>>106113287
>soulseek on a seedbox
Any providers you guys can recommend?
I'm behind CGNAT (Australia), and all the information I've really been able to gather on the topic via Google so far is that "most IPV4 VPS won't let you port forward" which on it's own is not actually very useful funnily enough.

>>106113287
>2. Some users skip the logs, cover art, etc when downloading. This is obviously bad for future users who will be looking for complete, original, verified rips.
This is why I always check rutracker first for proper rips. I don't even trust .flac extrension and always run soulseek files through spectrum analyzer.

>>106107935
I did this once for a deleted album and the dude complained to me in a PM about it saying its free, I had to explain that the album was deleted before he would re-share the other half.
Why even put it in your share if you don't want people to download it.

>>106115081
>Why even put it in your share if you don't want people to download it.
Because I share the whole music folder.
Why I don't understand this behavior is >>106114565 , bandcamp is guaranteed to have proper files.

>>106114533
I use seedhost

>>106097937
it would appear that way lol

yoooo soulseek is actually so goated! Program looks straight out of 2003 but passes the vibe check , way more music than I'll ever find on Spotify.

>>106115553
I first used it back in 2002

>>106115285
Is that via one of their dedicated options?
I'm not seeing it listed as a supported app for their cheaper virtualised plans, and I can't really justify 40 EUR a month for a full server.

>>106115662
I have one of those dedicated servers. One of my friends is aussie and has a cheaper slot from hostingby.design. I don't think any seedbox provider sets up slskd for you. But it doesn't require root so all you need to do is make a config and run it yourself using ssh. Just make sure whatever provider you choose gives you ssh access.

>>106115725
Oh, I completely missed that- I thought the lists of apps was ones verified/compatible with the seedbox, not ones the provider was offering to pre-install or configure. So basically if the required ports aren't blocked, the server has an IPV4 address, and the host gives you SSH access it should be doable?
Awesome, no worries then. Thank you.

>>106115966
Yes pretty much. Before I did it I found many people on soulseek who were running it on different seedbox providers sharing all their files from private trackers. It inspired me to do the same.

What's the docker image of choice for getting it up and running with Lidarr?

>>106113287
>>106114206
I delete logs and remove embedded album art from tracks, but keep the highest quality cover.jpg I can find as well as back, booklets, inserts, maybe some other goodies.

>>106116218
I leave everything as I get it for seeding purposes. My own workflow for processing and uploading files to torrent trackers does include removing embedded cover art and only including it in the directory though. There's no reason it should be in every single file.

>>106114442
It's just zipping the files. Google drive does the same thing.