Why are we still using this connector invented 30 years ago?

>PRESU I WANTO 90 DIFFERENTO STANDARDO FORRU MAI PERRIFIRALSU

>>106099355 (OP)
Because it works.

>>106099389
We've had a replacement for it for a decade now and adoption is happening at a snail's pace.

>>106099355 (OP)
works
>>106099406
no works

>>106099355 (OP)
i still use rj45 and 3.5mm as well

>>106099406
>PRESU MAKU ALL USB-OH DEVISU OBSOLETO BY FORCING 2MILLIMETERU SHITTO CONNECECTERU ONTO EVERYTHING BANZAIIII

>>106099406
physically more fragile than type A
I want my ports to last for decades

>>106099355 (OP)
>just werks
>cheap
>durable
>can be updated to new speed standards
Why wouldn't you?

>>106099444
How does it make old devices obsolete? You can just buy an adapter for like $3. I'm just saying that all new devices should have been usb-c already a long time ago, yet most of them are still using usb-a today in 2025.

>>106099355 (OP)
We’re moving (back to) to this, instead:
Optical 3.5 mm “headphone” jacks.
Supplies power.
Copper good enough for HD video.
100 Gb/s optical data in the tip.
MIDI
35 times more robust/durability than USB C.
You can use your grandfather’s cables that you inherited.
Cheaper to manufacture.
Doesn’t need 24 fucking wires like USB C (it’s more of a parallel port now, isn’t it?)
No DRM.
You don’t have to swipe your payment card over both cable ends to transfer data.
The government can’t remotely disable your 3.5 mm Jack.

>>106099355 (OP)
What part of universal do you not understand

>>106099355 (OP)
What's wrong with it?

>>106099355 (OP)
just werks

>>106099406
I just ran into an issue with a phone from 2022 where I couldn't use it properly until I switched from C to C to an A to C cable. It's not just people voluntarily switching that's holding it back, C is a clusterfuck. I also have several devices that won't charge with a USB C PD cable, they need A to C.

>>106099469
>all new devices should have been usb-c already a long time ago
Maybe if computers came with more than one or two USB-C ports, and if the design team hadn't tried to cram absolutely fucking everything into the standard making it a fragile mess. If it was just USB that would've been fine, but since it ends up being the USB/power-in/power-out/DisplayPort/thunderbolt connector a single port is too essential and they're physically less robust than USB-A. I hate that business laptops abandoned real docking stations in favor of USB-C port replicators, they're so much buggier and the connections break much more quickly.

>>106100053
>inb4 copium posts about USB C being robust

>>106099469
>all new devices should have been usb-c already a long time ago
No, only the devices that need the compactness of C should have switched. A printer or keyboard, for example, should be B.

>>106100053
This problem is easily solved by making all ports have all capabilities, but of course PC OEMs and chink motherboard manufacturers are too jewish to ever do that.

>>106099355 (OP)
Because it is the best compromise between convenience and durability
>>106099406
You will never be a real standard

>>106099355 (OP)
Ain’t broke
Cheap and easy to make and not fuck up
Fast enough for a lot of things, both data and charge speed
You don’t have to like it but this is what good-enough performance looks like

>>106099406
>or it for a decade
My last keyboard served me for longer than a decade. And that is why backwards compatibility exists.

>>106099355 (OP)
use apple hardware, x86 legacy garbage stuck in the past

>>106099539
I don't understand why don't we make a standard of connectors that are completely filled inside, but have some contact areas that only connect to some pins inside the port.
And the material around them would not be conductive, so there would be no signal bleed.

Thus the connector would be very solid and devices wouldn't need to have exposed holes, they could have waterproof ports.

>>106100438
Something like these contactless connectivity knobs (picrel)

>>106099403
spbp

>>106099539
>optical
fuck no, those things break within months if you actually unplug them occasionally. they are a one fit product.

>>106099355 (OP)
How else am I supposed to plug in my 20 year old Dell keybord?

Because it's good you dumb faggot
A to C and C to A adapters cost fucking nothing anyway

Why are we still using computers?
They were invented like 80 years ago.

>>106099355 (OP)
Because everything invented later was worse, case in point: >>106099406
>but it fits in muh phones and I can plug it both ways
Who gives a shit.
>but the pins
Irrelevant, we could have C functionality in A form factor easily.

I do still wish A was better, but I'd rather stick with it than switch to something even worse.

>>106099406
What if USB-C but the size of USB-A?

>>106099355 (OP)
It just werks. You have a better one? No? Didn't think so.

>>106099406
Doesn't werk.

>>106099355 (OP)
Invented in the 1880s.

>>106099406
Because consumerism and hyper capitalism are toxic when Peter Thiel is bombing Palestine back to the stone ages. Fuck Netenyahu and Zionist occupied Israel. The real good Jewish civilians hate this shit too, but as long as there's money to be made there's shit skins to kill in Peter Thiel's mind
If Palestine wants to try their hand at another 9/11 so the NSA can force US civilians into an oppressive Chinese communist party style surveillance state. Arm yourself before these Godless cowards try to take your autonomy from you for profit
Uncle Ted was right

>>106099355 (OP)
Better question, why are we still using this garbage port that HAS NO INTERRUPT LINES. FUCK.

99% of all controller lag problems could be fixed if USB had interrupts. The PS/2 port preceding it had interrupts.

yes eu-sama, please make all my old electronics worthless
also usb-c devices can be random crap like thunderbolt and not work with each other, and chingchong manufacturers use usb-c but forget to add the stupid 5.1k or whatever resistors the standard needs, resulting in ewaste that can't do usb-c to usb-c charging

>>106099406
Fuck USB-C.
It's literally just there to make everything "sleek and compact" for all of the fucking phonefags who are increasingly weak faggots that need their phone to be paper thin because they can't lift more than 100 grams.
I have had USB-C ports go out on phones.
The USB-C port on my Quest 3 just wore out recently. It is utter garbage. Like the slightest bit of fucking tension in the cable will strain the female connector to death over time.

>>106099355 (OP)
why are you complaining about this? i hate when cables are 'updated' when they do the same fucking job

>>106099406
FLIMSY PIECE OF SHIT

>>106103008
The team who designed USB was lead by a Jeet. So of course USB would be shit.

>>106099355 (OP)

Because it’s as good as the connector attached to your own body? Why does it need changed?

>>106099355 (OP)
Why are we still using the wheel?

>>106099355 (OP)
The squarness of it promote steady interaction and is retro compatible with my usb electric heater

>>106099406
USB for ants

>>106106112
Also this

>>106099406
>blocks you're path

>>106109704
This shit should be split into data, power and general, make it green, red and blue so normies know
One for high bandwidth peripherals
One for dumb devices that just want juice
One for phones and other devices like that that are handicapped by flash memory speed and don't need that much juice where it's just overkill on both fronts
Colour code them with green, red and blue so the normies know

>>106099355 (OP)
Updating for the sake of updating is stupid. If it works, keep it.

>>106102875
You on the left, me on the right

>>106099355 (OP)
Not broke so doesn't need to be fixed.

>>106109792
This isn't a bad idea, but the problem is less so that we didn't have handy standards for figuring out what a USB-C port or cable does, it's just that attempting to enforce any sort of USB-C standard when there are a million different device manufacturers not beholden to the USB consortium is like pulling teeth.
To their credit, Microsoft is trying to make standard USB-C capability compliance a thing among Windows OEMs, but I doubt their efforts are going to catch on like wildfire.

>>106103008
Nobody actually cares,

>99% of all controller lag problems could be fixed if USB had interrupts.
Just pure copium for your reflexes going south with aging.

>>106103159
>phonefags
It's over, they won.

>>106100138
>This problem is easily solved by making all ports have all capabilities
Routing high speed signals on a PCB takes up space, additional board layers and takes a lot of engineering effort. Having "one port for everything" is a stupid fucking idea and what that ends up doing in the real world is having the same physical connector for ports which have a completely different functionality.

Should I buy a USB-C or A hub? (the hub will have usb 3.0 output ports only)

>>106102875
>4.4mm
Usecase?

>>106099355 (OP)
Just werks.

>>106102875
Exactly like my dick, but in inches.

>>106109704
Behold the official USB-C spec