What's the deal with Hyphanet / Freenet?
So I installed it because it was memed.
I always fall for memeshit on my computer.
Now what do I do? How do I use it?
It's not like there's another /g/ or /pol/ out there on 'Freenet.'
Can someone hold my hand through this please?

>>106104948 (OP)
>It's not like there's another /g/...
that's the issue with p2p services, they are their own internet alternative with different protocols. They don't let you access clearnet like tor for example.
But they're still useful for the impending dystopia, so might as well learn to use it and get used to it.

glowies need not apply.

>>106104994
All they have is this dumb splash page

>>106105197
click on clean spider, they index their webpages on various indices. Cleanspider is one.

>>106104994
omg
won't load.

>>106105263
first boot is slow, also how did you setup the babdwidth?

>>106104948 (OP)
You may begin by reading the tutorial below.

Shilling this till I get at least 10 clearweb normies on board. Glowies eat ass and die.

Join Hyphanet while you still can. It's been operational for 25 years already.

. Free
. Anonymous
. Encrypted
. Reliable
. Censorship resistant
. Decentralized (no need to run a server in order to host any website or file)

. Works in a completely diffetent way compared to other darknets.

DOWNLOAD: https://www.hyphanet.org/

TUTORIAL: https://navigating-the-darkweb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/chapter4_hyphanet.html

. Hyphanet's replacement for usenet/forums is called FMS.

. Hyphanet's replacement for Twitter/Facebook is called Sone.

. Hyphanet's replacement for e-mail is called Freemail.

. Hyphanet's replacement for websites are called Freesites (uploaded through JSite).

>>106105277
I didn't

>>106105289
>TUTORIAL: https://navigating-the-darkweb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/chapter4_hyphanet.html
>Dark Web
lmao

Lot's of good info on this page about the network details
USK@KDCpAO5T1zoNtpWRwXdOaQzm19iSYxh7rvSf7yt5mco,gNtzREwbZSLXGygOSGgafb-epsSJS9HJcJF9jfVJso4,AQACAAE/HyphanetDoorway/14/

>>106105307
>I didn't
during first boot it asks you to choose your bandwidth, did you leave it as default?

>>106105371
yes

Same problem with i2p and Tor

There's fucking NOTHING to do

Where's the god damn chat room for fucks sake? Some half decent forum with people who reply?

It's shit so far

>>106105491
I now know you're a glowie becuase you mentioned tor.
Tor doesn't suffer from any of these problems because it's not p2p.
This entire thread was nothing more than a thinly veiled glowie trying to deter people from using technology by portraying experience through the eyes of "the innocent new user just trying to learn".
Anyone who falls for this shit deserves it for being retarded enough. I won't give up my anonymity online just 'cause it makes glowies' jobs easier.

>>106105491
If you're already on Hyphanet, you need to join FMS which's the usenet/forums equivalent, and you need some time to publish your new id in order to be able to post. The longer you run your node, the faster everything gets and also the more data comes in, which includes a larger list containing the board names. You may also speed things up by assigning more drive space to Hyphanet and get more FMS traffick by adjusting the setting that tells FMS to download messages that are older than the default.

Remember also that this is supposed to be a place to migrate to in order to escape censorship and surveillance, so it's up to us to rebuild and grow communities in there; don't expect it to be super populated when you arrive.

>>106105613
So look for FMS after installing it? I remember just getting the same basic landing page that anon above posted, last time I tried it as well

>>106105629
Read the tutorial, that will go a long way, but tldr just click on the plugins tab and add what you need.

>>106104948 (OP)
>java
it's shit

>>106105289
How to host an filesharing and torrents? I want you share all my movies etc., for fags to download

>>106104948 (OP)
It sucks, the trust model is stupid, it doesn't provide a strong guarantee of anonymity. I can't be assed to convince a bunch of dumb /g/tards for why this is the case. Most of you will blindly chug along thinking you are le anonymous and safe from the impending dystopia KEK.

>>106105347
Yeah, thats what its called. Not like its even one of the goofier IT terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphanet#Vulnerabilities ?

>>106106007
>glowie: don't use service X to circumvent censorship because it's le honeypot or it has vulnerabilities
>anon: ok, but I'm not looking up illegal content I just want to bypass my isp blocking stuff so why should I care?

>>106105833
Use FProxy from the interface. There you have Upload and Download options. Once the upload is finished, share the links on FMS or wherever you want. You may also use one of those Hyphanet apps designed like oldschool p2p clients.

>>106106108
>I'm not looking up illegal content I just want to bypass my isp blocking stuff so why should I care?
We already have everything you could need on the clearnet, and everything that isn't on the clearnet is illegal, and the technology sucks and won't protect you in the future for when it becomes actually necessary to avoid threats. "I'm not doing anything illegal", yeah you and fucking everybody else, the rest are using Tor or some other anonymity network. Hyphanet sucks balls.

>>106105944
Bullshit glowie propaganda. kys.

>>106106108
Wouldn't using something without vulnerabilities make more sense?
Assuming those vulnerabilities actually exist. Do they?

>>106106223
yeah it would.
But that glowie is using a logical fallacy that goes like this.
X has some vulnerabilities so it's not perfect, so just go back to Y.
It omits the fact that Y is more insecure and less private than X. Even if X has those vulnerabilities, it's still better off than Y. So the glowie is trying to deter you from using something better to remain where you are, which is objectively worse.
Besides, they're not exclusive, which is another implicit point about his stupid fallacy. You don't have to give up Y to get on X. You can use both and gain all benefits.

I repeat, retards that fall for these fallacies deserve being deanonymized, it's a form of social selection. Anyone smart enough to spot them will see how brightly they shine, and those people will survive the dystopia, the rest are cattle.

a proof that this thread was started by a glowies is that it wasn't deleted. They delete legitimate threads with good discusdion on thr topic.
Always use archives to find the good stuff that makes glowies seethe.

>>106106216
Hyphanet provides secure, anonymous, censorship-resistant communications. Even if Hyphanet had nothing at all of any of the clearweb crap you think he might need, it would still be worth using just for the good things I mentioned, you worthless shitskin glowie piece garbage. Kys and glow to hell.

>>106105944
As far as I can tell the whole shtick of it is censorship-resistance and the anonymity is just an afterthought. Just use it over Tor if you want to be safe.

>>106106219
Federal agents want you to use Hyphanet, they'd love for you to add a bunch of your 'trustworthy friends' and wait until one of them does something illegal. Think about why this is the case.
>>106106313
>Hyphanet provides secure, anonymous, censorship-resistant communications.
Tor and its hidden services does it better, and it's actually battle-tested because its used by criminal scum and governments.
>you worthless shitskin glowie piece garbage. Kys and glow to hell.
Incel rage

>>106106459
If somebody takes down your server, your website is gone. You cannot take down a Hyphanet site like that. That's the difference in terms of censorship-resistance.

>>106106310
Bottom line for glowie threads, they want you to stay on the clearweb at all costs, and will demoralize you and cause you to believe that any form of resistance is futile, and will also relentlessly slander any legit privacy tool like Hyphanet with all it's good record and make sure you know why privacy is exclusively for pedos, and that you have no legitimate need for privacy whatsoever even while you're literally getting fucked in the ass by 1984.

>>106105347
>Zoomer faggot thought le darkweb was a secret club where people take drugs and hire hitmen lolis
It was your generation that turned it into a meme. All the anonymous networks are called darkweb.

>>106106506
I'm not arguing that Hyphanet doesn't provide censorship-resistance. I'm concerned that a bunch of edgy teenage youngsters will hop onto it and think they are anonymous and safe, and end up getting themselves into unwanted trouble with the law. Some who have fallen for these kinds of traps live in countries with REALLY bad laws. In some places insulting politicians can get you decades.

>>106106459
>Federal agents want you to use Hyphanet, they'd love for you to add a bunch of your 'trustworthy friends' and wait until one of them does something illegal. Think about why this is the case.

You don't need to add or trust anybody and you are not liable for anything somebody else does, but If a friend were to do something illegal, they wouldn't know because communications are obfuscated and encrypted anyways. Either using Hyphanet is legal where you live or isn't, that's as far as they can push it.

>Tor and its hidden services does it better, and it's actually battle-tested because its used by criminal scum and governments.

Kek, obviously you never used Hyphanet. There was literal baby porn being crossposted on Frost before it got nuked. You can't spam like that on FMS, but pedos still operate there, along with drug dealers and other exceptional individuals.

>>106106708
>You don't need to add or trust anybody
Yes you do, you need to trust a random stranger or a 'friend' (Agent Smith sitting in cubicle #471 trying to groom you), it's literally a P2P network. The official website for Hyphanet has a lot to say on this topic.
>If a friend were to do something illegal, they wouldn't know because communications are obfuscated and encrypted anyways
No, but your friend's machines would be seized and all your traffic would go to them. Of course everything is encrypted, but think about why this is dangerous. Have you read Hyphanet's docs?
>Kek, obviously you never used Hyphanet. There was literal baby porn being crossposted on Frost before it got nuked.
CP gets spammed on 4chan, Facebook, Plebbit, etc. It doesn't mean anything. Where's Plebbit/Hyphanet's Silk Road? Oh wait, it never existed. What about... uhh let's not talk about the other sites.

Can you route it over Tor or do they not support that/block it?

I used to run a server for freenet in 2003-2008 or so.
I wouldn't run one now without routing completely over Tor. Ie to another hidden service (not IP).

You'll be arrested for illegal content.

>>106106708
>>You don't need to add or trust anybody and you are not liable for anything somebody else doe
LOL.
Comon idiot.
Comon.

You think they don't collectivly punish white cattle?
If you can't route this completely over TOR then there is something fishy with the dev team.
It's been OVER 20 years.

>>106106459
>Federal agents want you to use Hyphanet, they'd love for you to add a bunch of your 'trustworthy friends' and wait until one of them does something illegal. Think about why this is the case.

Which is why, after 20 years, freenet STILL doesn't allow routing to tor hidden services: correct?

Because they're comp'd
Just like Ian.
A white faggot who's newer protocoal doesn't allow anomonimity.
Comp'd

Like Linus

the posts above me are way too bright, notice how they are a minute a part, so a samefag too lmao.
Keep glowing, faggot.

>>106106459
The founder of freenet, Ian, considers Freenet a youthful indisgression of his.

He now supports torturing and killing all pedos. Because that's what's good for women's rights and their god: Jesus Christ the castrator (matthew 19: greek).

He, like all proud white males, hates the Old Testament God YHWH. He is also glad ReiserFS3 was removed from the linux kernel: the time of allowing mysoginist murders to code for free is over. Also Russians wrote ReiserFS.

Women and their physically castrated "hubbies" run opensource for Jesus Christ now.

>>106107063
>the posts above me are way too bright, notice how they are a minute a part, so a samefag too lmao.
>Keep glowing, faggot.
I ran Tor, Freenet, etc from my GRSecurity'd linux SSH server in my bedroom from 2003-2009.
It also ran CrossfireRPG server, Nexuiz, UnrealIRCD, and a ssh'd ircd.

I know something of what I'm talking about.
I'm also a lawyer.

You think that you won't be arrested if you run freenet. Maybe not. But they're arresting alot of people for speaking these days.
I think that if the Freenet devs were HONEST PEOPLE:
They would route freenet over tor hidden services.

That way both the content of the network is protected by freenet. The longevity of the content is also protected by freenet (if your node goes down others cache it).
And the LOCATION (Physical) of the freenet service is protected by TOR.

But you don't get it.
Because you're a dipshit.
This stuff is 20 years old and NO FUCKING DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED.
NONE
So something is up.
I do NOT trust them.

Ian "renamed" freenet to "disgusting slime underground". He should be shot. Fucking faggot.
Same with Linus. Betrayed all the hackers.

>>106107134
use i2p instead, faggot

>>106106708
>Either using Hyphanet is legal where you live or isn't, that's as far as they can push it.
Could be fixed if the devs allowed Freenet to route completely over tor hidden services.

But they don't, do they. And that's a decision they made.

samefag repeating the same fucking argument

>>106107151
That's all you gotta say?
I knew about I2p, and used Tor, Freenet, and ran nodes, before you knew what a computer was. And you diss me and give me lip.

Fuck you.
The fact that you have nothing to say show's I'm right.
The dipshits at Freenet (Ian) (plus the one java guy he hired once upon a time), who now call it "filthy fungal slime network underground" to remove any "prestige" it had and better allow arrest of note owners, have done no development of it over the past 20 years.

You know for a long time 1/2 of the packets weren't encrypted at all? Bet you didn't know that.

Is it still using 128 bit encryption?

>>106107163
>samefag repeating the same fucking argument
REFUTE the argument then asshole.
Want me to come kill you physically?

If you run a freenet node I could find you by portscanning dipshit fuck.

If any of you cared about freenet you would have written a C client / server sometime in the 20 years also. Which you never fucking did.

What do you have 0.1 programmers?
I put 200 weapons, built 50+maps, modeled 100s of models, extended networking, coded in more map format support, added spell casting, 30 vehicles, 50 spells, in the fork I did of a C project in that time.
What the FUCK have you done?
WHY have you done nothing?

I just don't trust it.
I did then.
But what they COULD have done, SHOULD have done: they ___CHOSE___ not to.
Just as Linus _CHOSE_ not to include PaX/Grsecurity,
and then _CHOSE_ not to sue them for copyright infringement
and then _CHOSE_ to shadow ban anyone who talked about it on the LKML.

I do NOT trust them.
They broke the hacker ethos. Like Linus.
Previous, early in "opensource": when stuff like Grsecurity came along: it was gladly added.
When it was possible to increase security as an option, like allowing links over Tor; it would have been added.
But when these people stop doing things like that,
and then design their "next" version with no anominimity.
It suggests they have turned into a deadly enemy, not a friend.

White FAGGOTS always do this.

seething samefag

you can literally tunnel hyphanet through i2p, I don't know what this guy dumping all of these walls of text is on about

>>106106923


>Yes you do, you need to trust a random stranger or a 'friend' (Agent Smith sitting in cubicle #471 trying to groom you), it's literally a P2P network. The official website for Hyphanet has a lot to say on this topic.

I don't trust anybody and conduct myself accordingly. And if you think there aren't agents running nodes on TOR, may the good Lord have mercy on your soul.

>No, but your friend's machines would be seized and all your traffic would go to them. Of course everything is encrypted, but think about why this is dangerous. Have you read Hyphanet's docs?

Everything carries a risk and nothing is perfect. It just so happens that Hyphanet is the better choice all things considered, specially when compared to doing nothing at all and continuing to be spied on, censored and manipulated like a lab rat in the clearweb. And talking about docs, from the very same docs:

"PS for an example of how dependant Tor is on centralised hidden services, see this bust. Half the hidden services on Tor were using a single hosting service, whose owner has now been arrested. While we don't approve of these sites, it does illustrate the point: A centralised network is a vulnerable network. Unfortunately, decentralised networks are hard, but in the long run they are more secure."

>CP gets spammed on 4chan, Facebook, Plebbit, etc. It doesn't mean anything.

Your argument was that the continuous presence of unmitigated crime in a darknet hinted towards it's reliability, and if the case be so, nothing has a better record than Hyphanet in this respect after 25 years.

>Where's Plebbit/Hyphanet's Silk Road? Oh wait, it never existed.

Meaningless. Either the criminals operating on Hyphanet are arrested regularly/en mssse or you have no claim. Guess what, they have been there forever and will continue to be because Hyphanet just works.

>>106107043
>Which is why, after 20 years, freenet STILL doesn't allow routing to tor hidden services: correct?

Totally incorrect. It's just slow and altogether unnecessary.

>>106105289
>hello fellow civilians, don't you want to host illegal C.S @ M on your PC 24/7 that you didn't even request?
I'm all for sharing ideas out of earshot of the dick-snippers, but count me out.

>>106105613
>don't expect it to be super populated when you arrive
not a glowie, but that's the problem
there's no people
>but there'll be more people
no there won't
same shit, as with federated reddit
yeah, you can find some communities on lemmy, but it's so bland and waaaay less content, that in the end - it's not even worth using

>>106107829
Your node only stores encrypted pieces and you have no control over it whatsoever. The same goes for everybody else in the network and irrespective of content, but none of that can get you in trouble (assuming they manage to tell you're actually running Hyphanet), unless plausible
deniability is no longer legally ackowledged where you live, and if it truly becomes that bad, it's probably better for you to just stop playing with computers leave the country all at once.

In any event, many people have been using it for many years, and this is yet to become an issue, so don't sweat it, don't fall for "please don't leave muh clearweb" glowie psyops and stop being a pussy for no reason, considering also that they're going to arrest you just for free speech anyways.

>>106105491
i2p literally has a default irc server

>>106105289
>. Free
>. Anonymous
>. Encrypted
>. Reliable
>. Censorship resistant
>. Decentralized
F.E.A.R.C.D.? Is it some secret message? I need to fear something called "cd"? Are they forcing you to post?

>>106107985
Nothing I can do to help this. If normie niggercatle don't want freedom, they won't join and that's all there's to it. My job is to point people in the right direction, but I cannot populate it alone.

>>106108211
fear centralized domains

>>106108211
It would be FAERCD, not FEARCD you stupid animal.

>>106107458
>I don't trust anybody and conduct myself accordingly.
The model is built on trust, a web of trust. You must choose peers that you TRUST won't harm you, that's how Hyphanet works (according to Hyphanet).
>And if you think there aren't agents running nodes on TOR
Everybody knows there are agents running malicious Tor nodes, it's been in the news even.
>Everything carries a risk and nothing is perfect.
You're dismissing the severe flaws with Hyphanet with a simple "Everything is not perfect :)", but it's fundamentally insecure.
>Half the hidden services on Tor were using a single hosting service, whose owner has now been arrested.
This discussion has never been about services accessed through anonymity networks. 99% of the people who used *that service* (you can say its name) did not get de-anonymized.
>specially when compared to doing nothing at all and continuing to be spied on
I advised using the Tor network, that's not nothing. We have better options out there.
>nothing has a better record than Hyphanet in this respect after 25 years.
Uhm, what? Even you don't believe this.

>>106108123
Screenshot from the hyphanet site.

I'm not saying it's useless technology even at its current state but basically, its only slightly more anonymous than 4chan. If your threat model includes governments, it's insecure. Eventually they'll start coming for people that say [X] online and hyphanet isn't going to be a safe refuge.

I wish them the best in their development efforts, especially around security and strengthening anonymity.

>>106108249
>fae rcd

>>106108786
if this were true then howcome there's lots of longstanding heavily illegal content on there?
Their existence should be proof that it's not as insecure as you think.

>>106108786
Whatever this is, it must be extremely impractical to carry out or simply very ineffective altogether because of the amount of illegal activity that happens everyday on the network, and the same goes to tor and i2p; they are all vulnerable to something, but if it were easy to deanonymize users, you wouldn't have to wait years just to hear about one guy getting caught in the news.

>>106108836
Governments spend years building cases and linking individuals, and not everybody is going to be in a jurisdiction that cares about that type of content. All the more reason to stay away from it if you're a political dissident, imo.

>>106108836
posted by the glowies themselves

The more people use freenet, the more secure it will be. The "vulnerabilities" hinge on the government controlling the vast majority of nodes so they can figure out who is doing what.

>>106107268
Tech normie here. Holy SHIT your faggot ass walls of text are just convincing me to look into this Hyphanet shit. You talk like that new york hunchback jew complaining about that saxophone player.

>>106110113
hahaha holy shit i forgot about this utter subhuman

>>106108811

>>106110568
That's the nigga!
>I built weapons and maps for one of the most important servers in freenet. Who are you?!

>>106110113
>>106110568
>>106111026
LMAO

>>106111191
>>106110568
>>106111026
>>106110113
https://youtu.be/9E62iA6KCIQ

>>106111211
what golum race is this?

>>106104948 (OP)
You have to install FMS
There is a one click installer somebody on here made
https://github.com/sneednet/sneednet

>>106107268
Wow, Mike being seriously un-based now, what a disappointment.
The guy who made the non anonymous version of Freenet has not been involved with the real Freenet for almost 20 years.
It's an unfortunate situation but the real Freenet is almost abandonware except for like 2 guys.
And the actually interesting parts of Freenet, FMS and Frost, are actually abandonware.
It's not perfect but you are posting on a site that blocks Tor and proxies so it would be a net positive for privacy and freedom if we all moved to Freenet.

>>106108157
What if the server goes down or gets censored? Good communication solutions should be P2P and at the same time anonymous and spam and censorship resistant. Mutually exclusive goals but FMS makes some good engineering compromises.

>>106107829
That's the price you pay for having serverless anonymous hosting.

>>106106459
Once the hidden service is taken down there is no way for the users to keep communicating.
And also unless you want to do a lot of promotion and maintain a server yourself you have to hope somebody else lets you use their service.

>>106105944
It's more anonymous than 4chan which we are all using and it will probably keep working for decades after 4chan goes down

>>106108217
Honestly it's your fault for trying to bus retarded chuds in like planes full of jeets to save a country. I am seriously becoming a gatekeeping elitist at this point, how none of you have realized our folly is maddening.

>>106111498
Wait, which Freenet are you talking about everyone moving to? Hyphanet (formerly Freenet) or Freenet (formerly Locutus)? because I just saw a video of that Ian nigger saying he wants a reputation system built into his new Freenet for "bad actors", and that sounds anti-anonymity to me.

>>106112198
You have a point. I've been in the battle for about as long as these darknets have existed (initially just for curiosity's sake, though) and turns out the vast majority of normies will simply take great offense to the idea of exchanging muh glowie surveillance clearweb slopcage with something that's actually profitable and reasonable in terms of freedom/security.

At the end of the day, I think the success of glowie false narratives against Hyphanet and other solutions stems from the fact that normies don't want to read. You might think it's an oversimplification of the issue, but that's the one pattern I noticed just going through all these darknet threads; normies kneejerk-quoting old discredited glowie bs they googled in 5 seconds and retarded questions you have perfectly good answers for in the official documentation and tutorial I linked to.

Not much we can do, let them go the way of the troon and uninstall themselves. I'll keep shilling Hyphanet just to shit on glowies, though.

>>106113391
The old Freenet. It does have a pseudonymous reputation system, but it's client side so everyone decides whose reputation lists to use, if any. This is the only viable way to fight off spam. When 8ch*n went down a lot of people migrated to Zeronet and it was killed by a single spammer with a spam bot.
You can decide to be anonymous instead of pseudonymous by using a public shared account (an account whose private key has been published).
In practice the reputation system (called network of trust) is not really used by anyone because there are only like 5 users to begin with and no spammers.
But if it became more popular half of the posts would be spam, look at what happened to Usenet.
The only other way to fight spam in a decentralised way is to require users to pay per post using crypto.
Network of trust is just a generalisation of centralised systems. When using a hidden service over Tor you are implicitly trusting the owner to use good judgement when deciding which posts to delete. Network of trust just allows you to spread the trust across multiple sources and publish your own trust lists.

>>106115456
FMS' trustlist system works exceptionally well in a reasonable, self-regulating community. One of the devs, who's also a seednode and very much trusted by everybody, rated me 0 for having an unfavorable opinion on shitskins, fags and commie degenerates, and guess what, it did nothing to stop my messages from getting thru. Either everybody's on board for the "ban" or it doesn't happen.

Even from it's inception, FMS users have been mindful to only stop literal spam and nothing else. Lessons were learned from the Frost cp crossposting schizo hacker dos debacle an here we are all these years after the events with a perfectly functional message system that's anonymous and resistant to both censorship and spam.

>>106113938
This current wave of payment processor shenanigans and online safety BS will make at least a few normie-adjacent people look into darknets with less apprehension. but you're kinda right, literacy is definitely the biggest filter. That kinda sounds like a point in favor of hyphanet to me. I don't want to go through the trouble of learning this darkweb shit just to be surrounded by useless retards

bump

>>106108217
We can make the system easier to use and more aesthetically appealing though

>>106104948 (OP)
im gonya blog post installing freenet as a not totally retarded user
i installed it once before but quite before installing FMS or finding anything to do

>>106120416
installing,
kek it couldnt find cron, hopefully that wont be a problem

>>106105577
Why does centralization matter if the site is an onion?

>>106120432
Because if it's anonymous, it can easily be flooded with spam
Because you can be censored by the owner
Because the owner can die or get bored and you lose the place you used to hangout forever

>>106120428
already complaining at me :(
guess i need to figure out some BS

>>106120452
my fist peer! lesss goooo!
that really did take a few minutes...

>>106120452

>>106120515
clean spidef finally loaded...i clicked it before and it only loaded 50% and thought i was gonna have to wait a while, but now its loading really fast!. wonder if theres anything good on there

>>106120452
It's literally telling you exactly what's going on and how to fix it.

>>106120549
>>106120542
it was already on "normal" when i checked so that error message is useless

>>106120546
daily size estimate
no clue what this graph means but it looks cool

>>106120581
like any good darknet its filled to the brim with gore!

>>106120317
>>106120452
I'm trying to brainstorm some utility to draw more users. You obviously would want to bring some friends aboard with you. I know there are plenty of people with jobs that would fire them if they saw their group chats, so a replacement for normal messages is obvious. The problem with that is most people would prefer to use their phones, and I haven't seen anything about this working on mobile

>>106120593
found some hot gore art tho...
>>106120594
if your going lowest common demonator-pilled, just wrap it in somekinda imessage style "normie" app, then just tell them were gonna spend a few min creating your account, hard part is figuring out retard proof UX for the WoT

a big thing you could do is slap FMS on the splash screen and not make it a download. then FMS becomes the usecase for freenet. OP asked why theres no /g/, just tell them to just boot it up and go to FMS, or maybe an imageboard site

>>106120572
weird. I'd tell you to try Sneednet but last time I tried it gave me an error and I haven't fixed it.

>>106120594
USK@tYMEWj7GWkHawep8TRvg8PYPa3ffIjjDJ0Ctvw9nG7g,Uzw4KYFWPZjwbUfqd1XCYvshEPT1XsOwlsysxsw4Bl4,AQACAAE/sharesite-freesite/1
a first impressions site i also found on the spider
it is just kinda nice having a big list for you to find shit in,,,
also its kinda hard to grok the urls, i assume that the /shareshite-freesite/1/ is the directory and the USK is the address

>>106120622
You probably would want to have thumbs up button and prioritize trust lists from people with similar preferences.
Then you have a "report" button which hides posts who these people with similar preferences have also hidden.

>>106120317
That would definitely help with newcomers. I'd say they could easily redesign the interface as an oldschool yahoo-like web portal and lure more people in just with that change alone, but it's always the important stuff that gets prioritized during development cycles, so schizo html toy page it is.

>>106120593
kek, you didnt need to tell me

Hmm I'm not entirely sure but this thread is glowing really fucking bright

>>106120689
anyways enough browsing dodgy websites
(theres so many)
downaloding the fms binary
this is gonna take so long

>>106120730
Kek, glowies on suicide watch over people exiting their clearweb surveillace cages.

>>106120730
have some pictures of cats anons
i probably shouldntve scared away the other anons with the degen sites lol

There was a freesite on Anne Frank which I think made a relatively solid case for the story being total bs. Read it centuries ago, maybe it's still there.

>>106120769
dare is say,,,fuckin based

>>106120622
Censorship resistance is a good selling point for artist, speaking of art. Emphasize the ability to connect only with long time friends. It's not very good for picking up an audience right now, but there are plenty of artists that worry about abandoning their riskier ideas if they want to go mainstream. Good for practicing with friends for the insecure type.

>>106120798
do anons remember novichok?
>>106120815
ive seen a few art things on there already, not even NSFW. its probably the, nerds who built it -> the nerds in general -> then artist for those to adopt new technologies like this

This goes without saying, but eventually you'll stumble upon unsanitized indexes, and when you do, be sure to either go back to the previous page (recommended) or have everybody else in the room leave, because you don't want any human being to read what's listed there even if you yourself have no intentions of clicking on any of it.

>>106108836
>longstanding heavily illegal
One of the ways they catch people is through taking over the providers (or making their own site) of the content and hosting it from government servers. Owning the host is the best technique they have so far. Tracking can then be used by sending encrypted signals as it goes through different nodes before reaching the end user.
The US gov't is the largest provider of "illegal" content on all the darkwebs.

>>106108211
fear to change directory

>>106120657
Yeah, a more nostalgic interface and emphasize the "wild west internet" nature of freesites. Actually, I think I'll start calling it "wild west internet" or "Frontier Internet" rather than darkweb. Less scary, mustn't scare the hoes.

>>106120847
sorry anons for the delay,
im in FMS now!
dunyo why this cant just be in the install by default

>>106121356
posts are loading in
veeeeeery slowly

>>106121365
i changed something maximum days backwards from a forum thread i saw,,,
it is indeed free from clearnet basedkaf

>>106121391
why can i only get blockmangos posts T_T

>>106121451
Yeah, all this sounds pretty approachable. I'll try this out tonight or tomorrow, when I have some time to kill. There still needs to be some practical use for this beyond recreation. If hyphanet can be good for business, you'll get better than just normies, you'll get actual useful users aboard.

>>106104948 (OP)
Whwn setting up use a bunch of different .conf files for Wireguard, written in Python to act as different custom peer nodes to connect you to the network you dumb boomer.

>>106111533
there are two iirc, you randomly get sent to one

ONLY IF there was a composite network made out of Hyphanet and Tor where Hyphanet made the static storage part - content delivery - and Tor was the dynamic service part.