>free cloud and email hosted in Switzerland that "respects your privacy"

What's the catch?

Isn't that what ProtonMail already does?

>>106106789 (OP)
I host my VPS on them and they also host swisstransfer which is by far the most useful free service i've used on the web

pretty much based company and services

>>106106789 (OP)
circa 15 years ago, spain and switzerland were the best countries to vpn into because their privacy laws were the strongest.

>>106106789 (OP)
>free cloud and email hosted in Switzerland that "respects your privacy"
>What's the catch?
The catch is they do respect your privacy.

Just in the way you think they mean.

All legal too btw.

>>106106789 (OP)
Switzerland will stop respecting your privacy in a few months.

>>106106827
>>106106922
Yes, and Proton is getting ready to leave Switzerland because our government are cucked retards and they are planning to implement laws that will destroy privacy and undermine Proton's whole business model.

>>106106827
No>>106106877
Interesting, I've been looking for an alternative email address I don't have to host myself.I'm surprised I've never seen them recommended on here before. I was digging through fdroid and found their apps

>>106107075
BTW I am purely recommending them for the quality of their services. All companies will have to snitch to comply with any government. Their solutions (self managed cloud and pre-configured apps) are just well-hosted and I never had issues with overshared resources, unlike most other hosts, maybe it's just because of a smaller customer base...

>>106106789 (OP)
they're good as a non-big-tech service who doesn't read through your data to sell you ads, but they're not really "Private" otherwise
t. use them for cloud, email, calendar and domain

switzerland always adopts eu laws

>>106107054
how's netherlands?

>>106107054
Sounds like Canada is the last bastion of hope for privacy. America saves the day again.

>>106108698
I imagine Proton will go to somewhere like Dubai. Plus Andy Yen is a total nerd and very smart, so he probably won't make the same retarded mistakes as Pavel Durov.

>>106108731
Isn't the entire middle east a privacy nightmare with the governments watching everything?

>>106108740
The fact that Telegram flourished there, and that Western countries literally had to lure Durvo to Paris and arrest him so that he would play ball, all that suggests otherwise.

>>106106789 (OP)
The catch is if you don't log in every few months they delete your account.

>>106106877
You pay 23k euro per month for hosting? What's your website?

>>106108768
telegram stores all chats in plaintext on their servers by default