Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKPs) for age verification - /g/ (#106115722) [Archived: 35 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:49:52 PM No.106115722
ZKP
ZKP
md5: 6513e0b9e530ddf136310377f53ca067๐Ÿ”
Age verifications are becoming more common, and often even mandatory to use large websites.

A lot of websites seem to demand ID to verify their users age. I do not support this and will not give a website my ID for various reasons.

However, I stumbled across a German YouTube video about how ZKP's can be used to verify a person's age without revealing any other information.

I have no idea how ZKP's actually work. But does this make any sense and could they actually be a solution for this particular problem?

There is a lot of discourse about the whole age verification topic lately. But I have never seen someone else discuss this approach. Most of it is malding. As I see it, enforced age verification is inconvenient and brings more harm than good. But it is not going to go anywhere, and we might as well try to find the best solution for a bad problem.

The video: I have no idea if translated subtitles make any sense whatsoever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7pjGHdHVw
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:51:15 PM No.106115733
>>106115722 (OP)
No website worth visiting actually requires any sort of ID. Kys.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:53:34 PM No.106115750
>>106115733
>No website worth visiting actually requires any sort of ID.
yet
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:58:19 PM No.106115782
>>106115722 (OP)
i can't wait until the entire internet, including the access through internet service providers, require some form of constant biometric check ups. that way we could manage how we treat each other better and the attitudes towards roadmaps which target serious and critical issues of our day, for instance, global warming, melting icecaps, pollution and the spread of dis and mis- information.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:58:57 PM No.106115786
>>106115722 (OP)
>we might as well try to find the best solution for a bad problem
The best solution is to bully normies and to get the absolute most out of Digital IDs.
As soon as they are widely deployed and the NPCs are groomed into smashing that Accept button, just request all their info everywhere you can.

NPCs need to be split off. We need a great filter. NPCs should live on their goy propaganda platforms - as they already do now - while humans will use some niche websites that simply don't need it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:59:34 PM No.106115791
ZKP would make it so their is one place for your ID documents to leak instead of each company being a seperate attack vector. 1 is still too many and it also means that the centralised authority could see every place you have an account and request access. Without ZKP you could compartmentalise yourself.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:02:45 PM No.106115810
>>106115791
The German solution is to have the user select verifiers like a bank of their choice.
I think that it might work with decentralised authorities
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:03:39 PM No.106115814
Screenshot_20250802_090053_Google Play services
Screenshot_20250802_090053_Google Play services
md5: aa98889c8180b9a479a8537b2b382059๐Ÿ”
I've already got 3 digital IDs

State ID
US passport
UK passport
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:04:27 PM No.106115822
Captuutyutre
Captuutyutre
md5: fa1dfff14dd17e0098944d9ea90e8f54๐Ÿ”
>>106115782
I can't wait until I download the 55.2 GB tea leak from the torrents that includes like 500 id cards, some of which are valid until 2065. Because I will have all of those identities I will be able to use a different identity on each visit thus... nothing ever happens and nothing changes. I will then proceed to call you a niggi for talking about useless shit like "global warming, melting icecaps, pollution and the spread of dis and mis- information."
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:04:41 PM No.106115824
AISelect_20250802_090247_Google Play services
AISelect_20250802_090247_Google Play services
md5: 9c1d813908908eda75e4cdca8a7f21ec๐Ÿ”
>>106115814
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:05:43 PM No.106115832
AISelect_20250802_090327_Google Play services
AISelect_20250802_090327_Google Play services
md5: aba6cf07e642c8547d2450bc5b363db0๐Ÿ”
>>106115824
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:06:07 PM No.106115837
>>106115814
>>106115824
and i have 500 and I am on the look to get more data leaks, just to get even more identities.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:06:54 PM No.106115845
>>106115837
Yea but yours don't have valid signed certificates.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:08:21 PM No.106115857
>>106115845
oh no, I will have to wait until 2025 for a new data leak with 5000 valid certificates. how bad.
also the moment a data leak happens on one off these shit authorities, we will get millions of certificates, billions even.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:09:18 PM No.106115863
1682470767081465
1682470767081465
md5: 4e7aa3dabb45c16aa8b41d2af87ea512๐Ÿ”
>>106115810
>I think that it might work with decentralised authorities
What part of 1 is still too many did you not understand? ZKP are shit because they are opt in privacy solutions as opposed to private by default.
If you want real world examples lets use cryptocurrency. Monero is private by default and actually used by darknet markets. Zcash, it's biggest competitor uses ZKP and it is a ghost chain that nobody uses except the devs for dumping their free coins.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:10:18 PM No.106115870
>>106115857
I mean, they're almost always only valid for a few weeks at most

But whatever helps you feel superior I guess.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:13:00 PM No.106115885
>>106115722 (OP)
>But it is not going to go anywhere, and we might as well try to find the best solution for a bad problem.
No. This way of thinking creates a friendly environment for bad actors. It's a GOOD thing that people are inconvenienced, it's a GOOD thing that people's data is leaked by age verifiers. The smoother this whole process is, the quicker the internet will be clamped down. People should be angry, not comfortable and inconvenienced.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:13:20 PM No.106115888
There's no such thing as a zero knowledge proof. The MINIMUM you need is at least one centralised system that can hand out 'proofs of identity' which will require an ID tracking number and whatever validation "Is adult" for example. The centralised system can hand out a unique tracking number per request, but the systems receiving the ID can take that code and link it with your browsing session, and give you their own session that they can track across sites especially if they're big like facebook.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:13:35 PM No.106115890
c1264420-68c2-11f0-8cbf-ebc9a373a489
c1264420-68c2-11f0-8cbf-ebc9a373a489
md5: 70668eed9772a4a5be541c121898fe43๐Ÿ”
>>106115870
the thing is that we will probably get enough leaks often enough, for me to not even care. Oh, and since I have all that private info about you and I need it to access the internet the way I used to, I may as well take a small loan in your name ... I also need some money. Oh also I do not want to steal the money of some rando I use https://use-their-id.com/ to get the money out of my politicians directly. This is democracy the way it should be: My name is Keir Starmer and I let this anon have a small loan of a 10 000 pounds and also visit xnxx com !
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:14:47 PM No.106115899
>>106115863
Google's ZKP implementation for identity/age verification is open source and is actively undergoing 3rd party security audits, pending public release.

ZKP is only as good as the implementation.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:16:02 PM No.106115911
I won't even go to the convenient store nearby because it uses facial rec at the door. No other store does that in town. Fuck them.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:16:17 PM No.106115915
>>106115899
Ah good, google will know every site I verify my ID on. What a great ZERO KNOWLEDGE implementation.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:17:15 PM No.106115919
>>106115899
>Google's ZKP implementation for identity/age verification is open source and is actively undergoing 3rd party security audits
Okay, I will assume Google have perfect security so I can trust Google won't leak my data accidentally. What happens if the government request that data. The people I least want to see it still have access, not even a backdoor. Just easy access.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:17:18 PM No.106115920
>>106115899
Keep it to yourself, kys.
rapist mentality can't take no for an answer
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:18:18 PM No.106115926
>>106115919
4th Amendment is Not For Sale Act
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:20:13 PM No.106115934
>>106115926
>>106115915
>ZERO KNOWLEDGE
Zero knowledge is a one way street too. Google reply to a request from Pornhub to say I am over 18 with a digital thumbs up. There is absolutely nothing stopping Pornhub from then telling Google the person you gave me the ZKP that they are over 18 spent 40 hours this week watching rape porn.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:21:15 PM No.106115944
>>106115915
Anon, audit it yourself if you don't buy it.

> Google has stated that the system is designed to "further ensure there is no way to link the age back to your identity." This implies that the proof-generation process is structured so that Google itself cannot directly connect a specific ZKP transaction to your Google Account. The technology is designed to create a verifiable proof that can be shared with a website, but that proof is meant to be unlinkable to your personal identity in Google's internal records.


Other Metadata would be the main way to link it to an individual.
> Even if Google doesn't directly log the ZKP transaction, other data points could potentially be used to infer information. For example, if you're using a Google-powered browser, are logged into your Google Account, and are on a website that uses the ZKP feature, it's theoretically possible for Google to correlate these events. However, this is an area where ZKP-based systems aim to minimize the amount of identifiable information available, making such correlations far more difficult and less reliable than with traditional identity verification methods.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:21:38 PM No.106115948
>>106115934
>spent 40 hours this week watching rape porn
based. but sadly only a woman would do it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:22:40 PM No.106115962
>>106115944
audit my ass.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:24:29 PM No.106115977
implying
implying
md5: 6a44f461485352b48230c3ada119ed67๐Ÿ”
>>106115944
>This implies
So Google themselves haven't even stated this yet?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:24:43 PM No.106115979
>>106115962
It's okay to be ignorant, but to double down on your ignorance and embrace it is kinda cringe desu.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:24:56 PM No.106115982
file
file
md5: 5c164a676d8123959d78047e6fc0bba4๐Ÿ”
>>106115890
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:28:00 PM No.106116011
>>106115977
I mean, again it's open source, go find where it allows Google to see the generation of proof process and how it can be linked back to an account.

So far I've not seen any audits (professional or schizo) that claim Google is lying about this, and it would be big news if anyone did find that in the code.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:31:13 PM No.106116027
>>106115722 (OP)
>Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKPs) for age verification
This will not happen because the age verification is just an excuse. They want your ID, they want to know who does what, it's simply surveillance. It was never about protecting children
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:31:29 PM No.106116029
>>106115944
This is good to hear that it's ACTUALLY some kind of zero knowledge attempt. I would not be surprised that it has some kind of tracking problem though. I think it also doesn't help the core problem which is that ID tracking at all is cringe. I think even with their system; companies are going to want to ID verify people AND ban people according to ID. That's going to need some tracking.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:33:20 PM No.106116042
>>106115814
>>106115824
>>106115832
Based
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:36:05 PM No.106116064
>>106116027
it's so funny seeing people so misguided that they call it a porn block or accuse you of being a porn addict for opposing this
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:37:31 PM No.106116073
file
file
md5: 3133f194daebc00a58a75bfb87e97391๐Ÿ”
>>106115863
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:39:21 PM No.106116087
>>106116064
technically, porn will soon probably move to IPFS or russian / chinese servers, so... it is a type of a porn block, just not the type that the governments portray it as. Why go to western rotten KYC ID verified porn websites when the ruskies have opened a better porn website with no rules? If I was a porn site owner I would already be booking a flight to Russia, Kazahstan, Mongolia and China to explore future business opportunities.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:41:01 PM No.106116100
>>106115934
there is nothing wrong about the relationship between private and public institutions. the latter of which is the basis for trust in our society. we require it.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:43:51 PM No.106116140
1000_F_168490535_Oz2zareUOdOcUtj8SV5UaEX4LKoI2h2H
1000_F_168490535_Oz2zareUOdOcUtj8SV5UaEX4LKoI2h2H
md5: f61c4a765a542fbf5fe04c4c423375a3๐Ÿ”
>>106116100
and there is nothing wrong with me using foreign services that do not care about your laws. we require some diversity in this space - some entities follow the law, some don't but they are all valid and equal! Diversity is our strength.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:47:26 PM No.106116176
>>106115750
Ever.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:48:43 PM No.106116185
>>106115822
Where did you find the torrents?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:50:11 PM No.106116202
>>106115733
/thread
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:51:07 PM No.106116216
>>106116185
there was a thread about it , well more like 20 threads about it. I guess one of the threads had links. Also if you look at the pic i uploaded, you will see the magnet link which is what you need. there were other magnet links too but you will have to go to desuarchive and look there for them. From what i remember the tea leaks were per year and the one i have is one of the bigger ones having many years.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:52:18 PM No.106116226
>>106116216
>>106116185
also a lot of leaked data is shared via torrents, so in many ways torrents now are the primary way to get freedom as any leak will have a torrent to download and you will be able to get new identities that way.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:54:37 PM No.106116246
>>106115890
>we will probably get enough leaks often enough, for me to not even care
You think we'll have ID leaks monthly for years on end?

Lol

Lmao even
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:57:08 PM No.106116272
>>106116246
there were bank leaks in the past that had the data of 1/3 of all americans. If you just collect a few leaks you will get 100 000 000 identities.... come on, this is enough for verifying as a different user every weak for 1923.0769 years.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:58:46 PM No.106116295
>>106116272
anon, the certificates expire every 2-4 weeks.


Do you not understand how signed digital certificates work?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:59:50 PM No.106116304
>>106116272
>>106116246
of course it will not only be you that is after the leaked id-s: any type of criminals will like to be able to weak a different identify every day.
Oh and websites will also have different ways to identify users, thus different leak vectors.
The future of the internet is basically "DO NOT REDEEM" as any type of scam will be common.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:00:51 PM No.106116310
>>106116295
if i have all your data, cannot i just make a new certificate with your name?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:02:30 PM No.106116320
>>106116310
No, Google requires a video of your face doing specific movements to verify a new ID
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:04:11 PM No.106116331
>>106116320
So I'll need to do silly faces at Google every two weeks, future looking great.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:04:13 PM No.106116333
1753397021428286
1753397021428286
md5: 681cfa9f768b34ad64623133e7a41e4a๐Ÿ”
>>106116320
yea but the UK users already report using fake printed face scan to fool those videos. What is stopping me from printing Will Smith' face and just telling you that I am Will Smith and moving in the video the printed paper?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:05:44 PM No.106116341
>>106116333
also screw printed paper, too much trouble - what is stopping AI from just generating me a face of Will Smith on my phone to move around in front of the camera to identify?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:06:02 PM No.106116344
>>106115722 (OP)
> I have no idea how ZKP's actually work.
its a fancy word to use keccak256 on a piece of data. the simplest one would be that two parties are just comparing is the result of `keccak256(data)` is equal without doing `data==data` directly. that's the shortcut oversimplified explanation!
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:06:07 PM No.106116346
>>106115733
>bank
>tax service
>all sorts of medical related sites
>police
>renewing/getting passports, visas, IDs, etc.
There are plenty of websites that require ID and many of them are definitely worth visiting if you have an actual life instead of living on hotpockets in your mom's basement.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:07:06 PM No.106116354
>>106116333
d00d, dont u know they'll just use spesheal camera in everyones home that can see in 3d????
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:08:22 PM No.106116371
>>106116354
Sam Altman's orb thing is meant to become that in time yeah.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:08:47 PM No.106116380
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md5: f3cb7fb68f67083bb1f5d4f51be79c09๐Ÿ”
>>106116346
funny enough we are reaching covid levels of discourse here: if I ask you whether wearing a mask in a hospital is a good idea, you will agree as hospitals are kind of dirty and also there is a lot of bad shit in the air, but if I ask you whether you want to wear a mask in the market, you will butcher me and I will deserve it.

Strangely enough, I kind of see a good point for some verification being required for bank websites.... but not for Youtube.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:11:26 PM No.106116409
>>106116346
>banking and government services neatly organized into their own catagory
Thanks for admitting they aren't related to the general argument. Feel free to try again, though.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:11:40 PM No.106116411
>>106116371
and I am sure that everyone will love to have some Sam Altman device in their home that they use to authenticate for websites... I am also sure that none of the data used for authentication will not leak to some torrent and millions of eye scans will never ever be freely available for download....
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:08:29 PM No.106116931
>>106116371
lol
lmao
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:26:11 PM No.106117078
>>106116409
>>106116380
The internet would be a better place if all social media sites, 4chan included required age verification of 18+ and you know it. As discussed in this thread it doesn't have to mean handing your ID to YouTube or 4chan to achieve it. Or them even knowing who you are, just that you're over 18.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:32:34 PM No.106117135
>>106117078
If I have 5000 ids of random Americna women and can verify to be them, so can a 12 years old. Stop thinking that the next generation will follow your boomer rules. When I was 12 years old websites had a modal asking me if i was over 18 and i always pressed the green button even without knowing english. Now younger folks will steal their mom identity card. Your moral shit will not work for as long as the world outside is too much trouble.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:34:26 PM No.106117150
>>106117078
>rapist mentality can't take no for an answer
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:35:54 PM No.106117159
>>106115722 (OP)
How about no and stop enabling these control freaks running amok.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:38:29 PM No.106117181
>>106116380
I will butcher you regardless because you are a fucking retard, not to mention that no, hospitals aren't dirty nor wearing a facemask would be of any help.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:41:38 PM No.106117207
>>106117181
>hospitals are not dirty
this is probably the only place in any city where you really must try to not touch others, not touch random stuff and keep some distance form others. In many ways the only place where some arguments about covering your face can be made are hospitals.
Yes, If i worked in a chemical factory or a nuclear reactor i would want a maks too, but hospitals are a very dirty place.
I am not even arguing about mandatory masking lol, i am arguing about some places needing some sort of self protection via distancing and trying to stay clean.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:43:49 PM No.106117225
>>106117207
I worked in a hospital for 6 years, I'm telling, you are a fucking retard with no clue of what you're talking about.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:46:08 PM No.106117251
>>106117225
ok, good for you, i still do not want to touch random places in hospitals, bumb into random people and generally speaking i wil just be on my phone away from people waiting for medical services and not breethe in faces of strangers.
...
i am not even arguing about mask mandates lol... just general hygiene.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:59:40 PM No.106118512
>>106115722 (OP)
Having thought about it this is how I'd do it:
- completely transparent third party open source authority
- zero saving, RAM based, AI ID verification that does require a webcam or stream but besides a hand to hold, requires the user not to show their face
- user holds an ID to the camera, the AI looks for metadata like issue date, expiration date, birthdate
- name or picture is not a requirement of this process so you can hide those parts with masking tape or whatever
- user is then prompted to do randomly tap three different points on the ID card within 5 seconds to prove it's not a recording or AI generated
- this could be run on the user's computer without an external server and work similar to 2FA, the verifier would work with a public key and validation tamper hash and the verifying website would have their own signing key, these combine to generate a valid hash if the verifier works

Generally, at least within the US, this is considered sufficient due diligence proof of age. While this could be "hacked" to provide valid codes, it is better than nothing and is 100% privacy focused.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:06:33 PM No.106118567
>>106117135
>>106117150
It's coming if you like it or not. And no, the verification won't happen by sending a picture of your ID to the service you're doing the verification to. Stop being retarded. You'll have government approved ID service where you'll login verifying it is you and the service will receive a token that will only tell a unique ID and if the person is old enough. The same service will be used for logging into your banking, tax, police, any other government or other services that require your ID, this time they'll get your SSN, name, and whatever else info is required for that service.

This also already works in first world countries. I can verify my identity using multiple methods, my bank credentials, my phone operator, and by my chipped ID card. The service gets whatever info it is asking of me and only that information. And I can see what info they're asking for before giving it to them. No one will give their bank credentials or other means of verifying their identity with all that access to their kid for shitposting.

And neither of you haven't refuted the argument that the internet would be a better place if all social media required verification of users to be real people and over the age of 18. And you know it's true.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:09:36 PM No.106118590
>>106115722 (OP)
bro you are fucking retarded if you think any government is ever going to support use of strong crypto for shit like this.
look at the fucking NSA, the most they do to "safeguard" our digital infrastructure is alert companies like Microsoft when they find out a foreign actor like Russia has access to an exploit that they know about. I mean, fuck dude, the NSA literally does not do shit to lobby for the eradication of social security numbers, despite countless Americans beind fucked over by their theft on a constant basis.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:15:54 PM No.106118657
>>106115733
This. A site requires ID I just stop visiting it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:18:22 PM No.106118675
>>106118567
>And neither of you haven't refuted the argument that the internet would be a better place if all social media required verification of users to be real people and over the age of 18. And you know it's true.
I don't consider browns people. If you want my ID that badly make a Whites only internet and get back to me.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:44:17 PM No.106118883
>>106118567
I am evading the verification whether you like it or not. Even if I cannot use outright the 5000 leaked ID cards, I will find another way. Whether I have to kill some bitch to skin her face and wear it as a mask or I can just use AI to make a model of a 3D face is irrelevant. I will use your data to verify as you and I do not care about "first world meme countries" and what works there... the UK is a first world country on paper yet you have to kill people to wank.
Replies: >>106118894
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:45:53 PM No.106118894
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md5: f6639d4c4d478b6ec400fa03ab95d926๐Ÿ”
>>106118883
pic related is me putting on a face mask to verify as another person, who i jsut skinned alife.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:49:49 PM No.106118930
>>106118512
kys
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:51:10 PM No.106118939
I can't wait until the posers in this thread itt are faced with the reality that their respective governments will send in private paramilitary units to capture, rape and torture them for violating article 5 section 2 of the anti-terrorism and child safety act of 2027.
Replies: >>106118958 >>106119461
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:53:10 PM No.106118958
>>106118939
but if i do not verify and they do nto ahve my face, how will they know it is me?
Replies: >>106119074
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:07:49 PM No.106119074
>>106118958
The rest of your metadata gives you away already, the verification just makes it legally easier to handle. But if we're going full authoritarian police state, then the legality aspect matters a lot less and they'll just link your identity to your online activity through various metadata sources
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:56:59 PM No.106119461
>>106118939
3:1
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:59:36 PM No.106119492
>>106115722 (OP)
If it involves uploading your ID, it's not going to work
Nobody wants to give a picture of their face or a picture of their identification to some random fucking site just to use it. They rather not use the site. And: If that site gets fucked in any way like all of these sites tend to: You're fucked forever since your ID can be used to take lines of credit out on your name.

tl;dr: anyone gives up their ID is a cuck and a brainlet, and deserves what is coming to them like the Tea app thots.
Replies: >>106119536
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:01:10 PM No.106119508
>>106116346
>projecting basement dweller seems to think your bank takes your ID over the intenret.
None of those services actually require your ID. Banks and Tax services, for instance, require you to first meet with them to establish customer contact before you start sending in paperwork because they want to be sure you're filing on behalf of yourself and didn't just steal the ID from someone else.

The world where banks can take a credit card on your name just from a picture of your ID is the same retarded world where websites like spotify want your ID but will then lose it.
Replies: >>106120073
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:03:10 PM No.106119526
>>106115782
Patrick Bateman?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:03:57 PM No.106119536
>>106119492
Which is why google is pushing their open source ZKP implementation so you can verify your identity with google, and their ZKP implementation keeps them from knowing what sites you're accessing so it's not tied to your account, but it can still be used to verify your age/identity to 3rd party sites/apps/etc.


Do I WANT to have to do this? Not really, but if I am going to do it, i'd rather it be through a large entity such as google.

I'd never want to have to verify my identity directly through some random app developer or website admin.
Replies: >>106119608
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:09:36 PM No.106119588
>>106115733
You'd've been right 10-20 years ago but now 99% of the internet is hidden behind tech giant login walls.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:11:01 PM No.106119608
>>106119536
>Which is why google is pushing their open source ZKP implementation so you can verify your identity with google
Oh this google?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2025/07/30/gmail-warns-25-billion-users---update-accounts-now-as-attacks-surge/

Oh this google?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-passwords-leaked-data-breach-cybernews-16-billion/

Oh this google?
https://nypost.com/2025/05/28/tech/major-data-hack-nabs-184m-passwords-for-google-apple-more/

All of this happened this year within five months of each other. On average, Google has three major data breaches per year.

You want to give their ID
to them?
I quit using google when it came to light that the CCP had 100% unlimited access to all of Gmail and Google didn't realize it for close to 5 years. Anyone who gives them a picture of their face may as well take out fraud protection the day after.
Replies: >>106119640 >>106119643 >>106128850
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:14:09 PM No.106119640
600px-Copium-207204116
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md5: 234e58cfc377122aa48c8b9c72939da1๐Ÿ”
>>106119608
I know they've fumbled literally every piece of user information they have ever been given across multiple platforms and across multiple social media sites, and on their last attempt at real-identity verification, Google+, which leaked close to 2 million social security, phone, email, and address information 8 years ago.

but this time, will be different. I have no proof it will be but I listen and believe to my betters because they're such a large entity (large = quality btw)
Replies: >>106119655
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:14:27 PM No.106119643
>>106119608
100% I'd rather give it to them then some small nobody organization that has no way to even know when they've been hacked, or have any recourse beyond just saying "oops".

At least with google their ZKP implementation is open source and can easily be audited and if vulnerabilities are uncovered, can potentially be fixed.

Again, i'd 100% rather have google know my ID considering everything else they ALREADY HAVE than verify my ID through some random app developers and website owners.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:15:42 PM No.106119655
>>106119640
>Google+, which leaked close to 2 million social security
Why lie?

> The data breaches in 2018 exposed private data such as names, email addresses, occupations, genders, and ages. Google stated that financial information, national identification numbers (which would include Social Security numbers), or passwords were not exposed
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:24:03 PM No.106119714
>>106118567
anon, the british government is too retarded to pull off their own identify platform
they couldnt even make their stupid "covid tracker" app without funneling 37milly into the void, and delivering nothing
37 million, for a fucking tracking app. imagine how expensive a "identify verification" platform will be!
thus it is guaranteed that sending a picture of your ID will be the permanent until the uk gov crumbles.
i imagine a similar thing is in the US case, however they might actually scrape together enough braincells to pull it off, maybe. Only the EU not retarded enough to develop their own thing
Replies: >>106119727
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:25:25 PM No.106119724
>>106115722 (OP)
>But it is not going to go anywhere,
Age verification is intrinsically wrong, so yes, it is going to be defeated one way or another. I don't give a single damn in what language or gaslighting tactic you people try to couch this. Children are only the responsibility of their parents, no state or organization has anything to say or do regarding that and even less so (nothing) about what adults do. I will simply not use any sort of website or service that implements age verification of any kind. None of them, especially your precious Google or Meta or similar has any value and if anything implementing this will hasten their demise, which is a good thing.

I am middle aged and I consider you and others like you utterly repulsive. If you want control control your children, Leave the rest of us alone and in peace, I refuse to shoulder your burden. The future of the Internet is even stronger cryptography, VPN's, TOR, Darknet and a whole lot more extremism. Everyone from payment processors to our governments has openly shown that you're our enemies and you will be treated as such. There is no difference between the EU and north Korea, and consequently there is no reason to be a "good citizen." Rebellion is a necessity. You completely lost any support you had with this, both on the national and supranational level.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:25:55 PM No.106119727
>>106119714
UK is trying beta tests supposedly starts soon with military IDs

https://www.gov.uk/wallet

> If you have an HM Armed Forces Veteran Card, you will be able to save this to GOV.UK Wallet first. Youโ€™ll be able to save more government documents, including your driving licence, to GOV.UK Wallet in the future.
Replies: >>106119801 >>106119902 >>106120965
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:27:22 PM No.106119737
>>106116346
None of those require an Id for me to access
Replies: >>106119756 >>106120073
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:29:02 PM No.106119756
>>106119737
Most banks require an ID to open an account.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:34:25 PM No.106119801
>>106119727
fuarrrrk
please contractor-san, screw this up!
reem them for all theyve got!
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:44:48 PM No.106119902
>>106119727
I can't imagine at this point what kind of absolute scum would want to be a grunt for the Starmer regime. The whole of UK is in need or radical rewriting of laws to ensure privacy, end of surveillance and a massive liberalization. It's a police state par excellance and the bleakest, most repressive shithole the West has aborted into the world. Only Australia compares. It's basically European North Korea.

Anyone serving that abhorrent country is by definition scum. Pure, irredeemable scum.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:49:12 PM No.106119951
Won't some kid just steal their parent's login info and hand out proofs to everyone in school?
Replies: >>106120023 >>106120026
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:56:02 PM No.106120023
>>106119951
A part of me hopes this will happen and the world will revert back. However, it's more likely that such a flaw would give the governments a free pass to turn up the heat even more.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:56:32 PM No.106120026
>>106119951
>enforce 2FA on ID-verified accounts
sorry kiddo
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:57:42 PM No.106120040
Just make 1 password and only tell the password to people when they turn 18. If you don't trust people to keep this simple secret then you shouldn't trust them to keep your identity secret either.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:02:07 PM No.106120073
>>106119737
>>106119508
You retarded niggers. Opening a bank account requires that the bank identifies you. Either by going in person to an office of that bank or alternatively verifying your identity through the internet. And no, that won't happen by sending them an image of your drivers license. You third world niggers just can't wrap your head around the concept of being able to verify your identity online and it happening without sending shitty pictures of your ID to someone. I've been building a fully online onboarding process to become a customer in a bank without having to visit an office and show someone your ID, but instead verifying your identity fully online, and not with pictures of IDs. And that was ten fucking years ago. I identify myself for various online services at least on a monthly basis and I've never had to send someone a picture of my ID. The technology has been there for ages.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:52:52 AM No.106120965
>>106119727
I'm sure they'll find some way to fuck it up
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 4:41:50 AM No.106122671
>>106115722 (OP)
Even a single centralised service is too much. If you train end users to EVER give up their identity documents on a regular basis identity theft scans will skyrocket. Grandma cannot tell the difference and WILL give her documents to Pajeet.
Replies: >>106124683
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:39:38 AM No.106123459
>>106115722 (OP)
Any goverment that says they do this will probably still have the servers be black boxes that cant be proven to actually be zero knowledge
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:18:21 AM No.106124649
>>106115722 (OP)
germany is in the dark ages when it comes to innovation and tech so getting the latest tech news from them is like asking a jeet whether rape is wrong in this day and age. Also, why put up with their stupid language/accent if you can get it straight from the source?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:20:10 AM No.106124662
1754169120278008
1754169120278008
md5: 43196fe59f79e28a3007c5b76f420063๐Ÿ”
>>106115722 (OP)
https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2025/06/28/zkid.html

NOT SAFE
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:22:34 AM No.106124675
>>106115722 (OP)
They don't want zero knowledge proofs. They want a full knowledge privacy raping humiliation ritual designed to chill and control speech. The cruelty is the point(but real, not the TDS version)
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:23:43 AM No.106124683
>>106122671
identity theft is a side effect. The primary negative effect IS forcing people to identify themselves. These people just want to be able to retaliate and ruin people's lives for saying things they don't like.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:51:46 AM No.106124856
>>106115722 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5uVKZn3F_4
Replies: >>106125204
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:05:34 PM No.106125204
>>106124856
lol that vid is 3 years old and Germans are just catching on now. At this rate, they'll be able to discuss this year's tech developments in 2028.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:52:53 PM No.106125448
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md5: c769234650f4f02b8e958b6897e03054๐Ÿ”
>>106115722 (OP)
Yeah I scanned my eyeball to get a unique ID on worldcoin. The Jews fucked us all anyways might as well submit while itโ€™s still fun
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:58:32 PM No.106125488
I do not want age verification of any kind.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:35:22 PM No.106125677
>>106115722 (OP)
Retards in this board don't seem to know what a zero-knowledge proof even is.
I'm not sure of that is a good or bad thing, but its clear to me that discussing actual tech here is pointless
Replies: >>106125794 >>106126904
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:56:43 PM No.106125794
>>106125677
yes, this place is a dumpster where Cniles that think they know everything due to writing a linked list implementation in C using pointers (omg!!!) act as if they understand cryptographic architecture, "web dev," and embedded programming because they read a blog post about it or some shit
4chan should give thread OPs the ability to ban posters from their threads. this could go very badly, but it would allow for technically impressive threads to exist and not be thrown into the trash because some retard wanted to start complaining about syntax or some shit
Replies: >>106126904
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:01:48 PM No.106125820
i just want to onboard my biometrics with an authorizing node to live in a society that maintains trust as its core function.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:44:22 PM No.106126038
I'm going to the TSA later and i have decided NOT to opt out of the facial recognition program.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 4:34:45 PM No.106126904
>>106125677
>>106125794
Plenty of people in this thread discussed the tech you well-poisoning faggots.
Replies: >>106128850
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:23:50 PM No.106127777
>>106115832
Cattle
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:25:18 PM No.106127795
>>106115857
Based
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 8:16:57 PM No.106128850
>>106126904
>Plenty of people in this thread discussed the tech
what the fuck are you smoking? I only saw a bunch of posts saying google is preparing to publish their own open-source implementation, and about 2 or 3 other posts talking about any tech other than that. the rest is a load of bullshit.

>>106119608
>forbes.com
google warns of attacks. nothing concrete leaked

>cbsnews.com
a collection of previously leaked credentials

>nypost.com
phished credentials

>I quit using google when it came to light that the CCP had 100% unlimited access to all of Gmail and Google didn't realize it for close to 5 years
not sure what you are talking about but in general, in most countries, companies are obligated to provide any info on THEIR citizens if states/governments ask them

also, none of this has much to do with ZKPs.

granted, I agree with you that one should NOT EVER give these companies an ID but you don't actually need to do that, not currently at least.
also, try reading and understanding things before using them as arguments.
Replies: >>106128893
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 8:21:41 PM No.106128893
>>106128850
>the rest is a load of bullshit
Yeah your post is an excellent example still the thread would have been better without it.
Replies: >>106129077
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 8:39:12 PM No.106129077
>>106128893
let me know when (You) will add something to the thread other than defending this shitty board, wannabe-janny